The 2007 Offseason Thread

[Wingspan]

If Reid did step down I think Gruden would be a great option. He has a Superbowl under his belt and took a 4-12 Raiders team and built them into SB contenders. The Bucs traded away two 1sts and two 2nds to get him so its not like he's gotten a lot of help in the draft. Plus, it's not like we're getting Cowher.

And then he took a Super Bowl team to a 4-12 record.

Gruden? No farging thanks.

[SD_Eagle5]

He inherited an old QB and no draft picks. Maybe if he had a guy who could throw the ball downfield and balanced that with a solid running game they'd be more effective. He doesn't have much talent on offense to work with, which partly explains the extra pre-snap motion. Here's a good question: Would you want Monte Kiffin as our DC?

[ice grillin you]

gruden has absolutely urinated on reid when theyve faced each as well

[SD_Eagle5]

If Reid did step down I think Gruden would be a great option. He has a Superbowl under his belt and took a 4-12 Raiders team and built them into SB contenders. The Bucs traded away two 1sts and two 2nds to get him so its not like he's gotten a lot of help in the draft. Plus, it's not like we're getting Cowher.

And then he took a Super Bowl team to a 4-12 record.

Gruden? No farging thanks.

Sort of like what Cowher did with the Steelers this season, are you telling me you wouldn't want him as coach?

[ice grillin you]

Sort of like what Cowher did with the Steelers this season, are you telling me you wouldn't want him as coach?

no way....who would want a coach that has won a superbowl and is a huge upgrade over what the eagles have....would he be choice #1 not necessarily...but there would haver to be someone pretty damn good out there to not take gruden over reid

[Wingspan]

I would take anyone as DC, I wanted Jim Johnson gone this year.

[Wingspan]

Sort of like what Cowher did with the Steelers this season, are you telling me you wouldn't want him as coach?

That was a fun way to twist that. Jon Gruden is no Bill Cowher.

Besides, Cowher did lose 4 AFC Championship games at home, and a superbowl in his 1st 13 years as coach.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Just because a guy won a SB doesn't mean he's king shtein.

Gruden is overrated.

[SD_Eagle5]

Sort of like what Cowher did with the Steelers this season, are you telling me you wouldn't want him as coach?

That was a fun way to twist that. Jon Gruden is no Bill Cowher.

Besides, Cowher did lose 4 AFC Championship games at home, and a superbowl in his 1st 13 years as coach.

Gruden is no Cowher, but he built a crappy Raiders team and took them to the conference finals. And lets be honest, if he's their coach the following season they're still in the SB and might have actually won it.
If Reid were to step down tomorrow - which is the scenario we're imagining - who's out there you'd rather have? (Cowher is not an acceptable answer)

[PhillyPhreak54]

Gruden isn't available either. And its kind of late in the game to be getting a new coach. The Eagles would most likely have to give up something to get him and I don't wanna do that. Especially for Gruden.

[SD_Eagle5]

Gruden isn't available either. And its kind of late in the game to be getting a new coach. The Eagles would most likely have to give up something to get him and I don't wanna do that. Especially for Gruden.

This is an unlikely scenario but the original post that started this conversation was if Reid were to step down than Gruden would be interested. Which begs the question, if not Gruden than who? Only person out there I can think of is Rivera, and he hasn't gotten much consideration outside of Dallas (which somewhat baffles me)

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'd go with Rivera.

But if AR only steps aside until this situation with his punk kids is over, he'll be back and we'll see an interim HC. Morningwood or Johnson.

[bobbyinlondon]

Gruden isn't available either. And its kind of late in the game to be getting a new coach. The Eagles would most likely have to give up something to get him and I don't wanna do that. Especially for Gruden.

This is an unlikely scenario but the original post that started this conversation was if Reid were to step down than Gruden would be interested. Which begs the question, if not Gruden than who? Only person out there I can think of is Rivera, and he hasn't gotten much consideration outside of Dallas (which somewhat baffles me)

I think some of you guys live in a dream world.

First, Gruden would have to resign from the Bucs.

Second, I'm sure after the way the Bucs got him from the Raiders, they would have put some language in his contract like he wouldn't be allowed to coach another NFL or NFC team for at least a year or two if he should resign.

Third, if a Gruden with no SBs on his resume cost the Bucs 2 1sts, 2nds and 8M in cash, what do you think a coach WITH a SB would cost the Eagles if the Bucs wouldn't accept his resignation?

Fourth--nothing is guaranteed and some of you guys are talking like all he has to do is show up and he'd lead the Eagles to a SB win. There are a lot of things that have to happen for a team to win a SB--good health in key areas, consistent play, good drafting, solid decision-making when signing FAs, and some luck.

[Munson]

Sort of like what Cowher did with the Steelers this season, are you telling me you wouldn't want him as coach?

no way....who would want a coach that has won a superbowl and is a huge upgrade over what the eagles have....would he be choice #1 not necessarily...but there would haver to be someone pretty damn good out there to not take gruden over reid

Again, you're praising a guy for doing the exact same thing that Andy Reid did, which you bash him for....Gruden took over a team with a much better defense then what Andy got from Ray Rhodes, and a much better offense, and was able to get a Super Bowl out of it....So Gruden is great and Reid just inherited a good defense? Besides the Super Bowl he used Tony Dungy's team for...what has Gruden done that Reid hasn't?

[General_Failure]

Blamed his players openly.