2006 Point & Laugh at the taterskins thread

[rjs246]

I'm really happy that Gibbs is a religious zealot. Anything he can do to make me hate him more is appreciated.

[General_Failure]

I'd like to see them lose to the Lions after reading that.

[Quasimoto]

Last night i got wasted and me my wife and a few friends of ours (none of which are as die hard of fans as I) was talking about the skins..i was thinking about how good the pokes are doing and how they are playing a meaningful game on thanksgiving at home and how we are out of playoff contention..with high hopes at the beginning of the year i just realized REALLY how crushed i was with the play of this team..I live and die by this team guys..anyways with all this in mind i started to shed a few tears. I dont know if i was acting like a wuss or if it shows how much of a skins fan I am..any thouhts??

So consensus?  Wuss or true 'Skins fan?  Fellas you be the judge.

[ice grillin you]

hes a lying cock..he didnt cry but is saying he did so to up his fandom quotient and be the biggest taterskin fan on ES.....so gay

seriously hes saying he randomly just started crying because he thought about how bad a year his team was having...doesnt anyone really believe that....i call bs

[Feva]

Well... you can't argue with the likelihood that they're just now starting to realize how zesty they are.

[Quasimoto]

The real reason the taterskins are losing.  Clinton Portis hasn't dressed up in weeks! 

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182099

To All taterskin fans who were chagrined by C.P.'s costumes.

To Those who suggested that the costumed-characters were a distraction, undignified, or unprofessional, etc.

Are you happy now?

[Sgt PSN]

Last night i got wasted and me my wife and a few friends of ours (none of which are as die hard of fans as I) was talking about the skins..i was thinking about how good the pokes are doing and how they are playing a meaningful game on thanksgiving at home and how we are out of playoff contention..with high hopes at the beginning of the year i just realized REALLY how crushed i was with the play of this team..I live and die by this team guys..anyways with all this in mind i started to shed a few tears. I dont know if i was acting like a wuss or if it shows how much of a skins fan I am..any thouhts??

So consensus? Wuss or true 'Skins fan? Fellas you be the judge.

Wuss, Skins fan.  Toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe

[PhillyPhreak54]

ESPN The Magazine article on the taterskins sucking

I asked an Indianapolis Colts defender what he thought of Al Saunders' taterskins offense, and he said, "Gimmicky." I asked a taterskins player what he thought of defensive guru Gregg Williams, and he said, "Arrogant. Thinks he invented the wheel."

"Why are we the 30th defense in the league? I think coaches got arrogant, I think Gregg got arrogant," the player said Tuesday, asking not to be identified. "They thought they figured it all out. They thought, 'We can win with scheme, we don't need players.' Don't be mistaken, this is a player-driven game, and so you need players. Any time in life when somebody thinks they've got it all figured out, it's going to come and get you. It's going to come and get you ... the sentiment is a lot of guys are mad because the coaches think it's all about them. They think they're f------ geniuses, thinking they can just let guys go and get away with handling people badly."

To be specific, taterskins defenders, particularly in the secondary, have regressed, Taylor being the main culprit. Out of the University of Miami, Taylor was arguably the most-talented cover safety to enter the league in years. His first preseason game, he intercepted two passes, returning one for a score. But he's been tinkered with so much now, taterskins players say he no longer plays on instinct.

A lot of Taylor's woes can be traced a lot to the hiring of Steve Jackson as taterskins safety coach. Jackson came with Williams from Buffalo, where he was a lower-level defensive coach, and Jackson supposedly was hurt when Williams chose DeWayne Walker as his main secondary coach in 2003 and 2004. He wanted the job himself, and when Walker left after the 2005 season, he assumed he'd get it. But Williams' old defensive coordinator in Buffalo, Jerry Gray, had just become available, and Williams hired him. Jackson was ticked.

So Williams threw him a bone, a bone which has literally torn up the secondary. He made Jackson safeties coach and Gray cornerbacks coach and allowed Jackson to run his own meetings. That means that the taterskins' safeties and corners do not meet together, which is practically unheard of.

"Talk to any coach in the league, and ask them, 'Have you ever heard of corners and safeties not meeting together?'" the taterskins player says. "They'd say, 'What are you talking about?' That's crazy. But ever since minicamps, OTAs, training camp, we hadn't met as a secondary. On the field, the corners will start making a call or doing something, and the safeties will be, 'What are you talking about? We didn't go over that.' So now the corners are expecting help in certain situations, and the safeties aren't getting there in time. And people got beat in the secondary.

"Everybody was saying they had to start meeting together. So the last three weeks they have. But 40 percent of the time Steven Jackson's not in the meeting. Because he pouts, because Jerry's running the meeting."

According to the taterskins player, Jackson then began berating his players profanely -- although he tends to go lighter on Taylor -- and they reached bottom in Philadelphia, when Donte' Stallworth beat Taylor deep for an 84-yard touchdown. Witnesses say that at that point, the other defensive coaches became officially peeved at Jackson for making Taylor "play like a robot," and for turning him into a confused, regressing player who now tunes out coaches and teammates.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Wait, so is Sean Taylor the best safety in the history of the NFL yet?

[Feva]

For being an integral part in tearing apart the Skins' secondary and consequently, their defense?

Well... yeah.   

[Seabiscuit36]

He made Jackson safeties coach and Gray cornerbacks coach and allowed Jackson to run his own meetings. That means that the taterskins' safeties and corners do not meet together, which is practically unheard of.

Gold Standard 

[MDS]

Ok not I don't feel that bad about getting up at 1030.

[MDS]

Spin patrol gets at it

'largely built on one anonymous source'.....thats kind of a compelling detail, don't you think Todd? I'm not saying there aren't elements of truth in that story, but truth is far more subjective than most believe around here. I'm amazed that nearly every comment in this thread seems to echo absolute acceptance of the contents of the that article as 'the truth'.

You guys should know better. Never believe all that you read. The only people that know are the ones knee-deep in this mess, and even they likely don't universally agree on 'whats going on'. If the author really knew the facts, he wouldn't have to rely on a single anonymous source (one who's motivations we cannot even pretend to know) for his information.

I don't doubt there are problems. You don't find yourself where we are as a team after a promising last year without there being problems. I just doubt this article paints the whole picture
For the record, I really like Gregg Williams, and I refuse to sell him down the river based on this kind of article

Gregg Williams is a good coach. Gregg Williams led our defense to top ten finishes two years in a row. He also built good defenses in Tennessee and Buffalo. Because of his history of success as a defensive coach, I find it hard to believe that he is primarily responsible for our defensive failings. Also, I think he has done well enough here to warrant giving him a chance to right the ship.

Joe Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. I think suggesting that he has lost the team to such an extent as this article claims is ridiculous. While I disagree with the hate directed at Gregg Williams, it is at least understandable. The hate directed at Gibbs is just ludicrous. I find it hard to believe that a Joe Gibbs team could have this kind of upheavel. If they do, then I think that Gibbs is the best man to fix it.

Bubba has also gone on the attack that this is made up, unfounded garbage that you shouldn't believe.

a coaching staff doesn't suddenly forget how to coach in one season

especially the ones with the pedigree as the Skins have


people believe what they want, no real evidence needed

Joe Gibbs doesn't allow things to get out of hand, in fact anyone with a little knowledge of Joe Gibbs, and his history, know that no way in hell that most of that could happen, even in a lesser degree

[General_Failure]

Remember that time Gibbs got all pissed off about the bus leaving those fans behind? He was a fargin' monster! He talked about it in his press conference and then made sure the bus waited the next week. Balls, man. Huge balls. Leadership you can be proud of.

[ice grillin you]

good ending going on in dc

nothing would be better than for me to have skins cover and win money but lose the game outright