McNabb's passer rating

[Tomahawk]

McNabb didn't play against any of those QBs.

[MURP]

Playing for a team that had home field advantage three years in a row AND made four straight NFCCGs you just can't make that argument. Those teams were good enough to go to, and win, at least one superbowl. But they didn't so you are going to try to argue that Wildcard and Divisional round games are 'big games'? Please. You're embarrassing yourself.

your right, the only big games  McNabb has been in are the 3 NFC championships the eagles lost and the superbowl they lost.   None of the games the Eagles won to get into the playoffs nor any playoff games they won were big, even the NFC Championship they won.   Makes total sense. 

[MadMarchHare]

McNabb is a great QB, and he gives the Eagles the best chance they've had in what, 40 years, of winning a championship.  But the numbers don't lie.  He comes up small in the final game of the season.  No doubt Reid and Johnson, his wideouts, defense, etc contributed to those losses.  But McNabb has his part too.  I agree with RJS in that you guys (and me) ridicule Manning for being a choker, and he is.  It also helps that he's a detestable human being, unlike McNabb.  But until McNabb wins a championship, he's going to be labeled the same as Manning - a choker.

[Sgt PSN]

Elway was a choker for like 12 years.  Hopefully we don't have to wait 4 more years for McNabb to lose that label. 

Of course, if/when he does win it all, it'll probably be with another team.  We're lucky like that. 

[hbionic]

Of course, if/when he does win it all, it'll probably be with another team.  We're lucky like that. 

It's true. 

[Munson]

Just to throw in somethnig...couldnt' the increase in INT's be, in part, because McNabb decides to take more risks/shots during the "big" games? I'm not saying that's definate, but I mean you would think he would be trying "extra hard" to make the big throw, and throw it into coverage he wouldn't normally throw it into.

Not to mention at least ONE of his INT's is a direct result of the ball boucning off one of his WR's hands/chest/whatever you will.

I think the one "big game" McNabb defiantely choked in was the NFCCG against the Bucs. That last INT was a big choke job.

However, to say that the CC and the SB are the only big games, that's foolish.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I guess in your mind no game is a big game unless its a CCG or SB. In that case there are a lot of QBs in the NFL who suck.

You're absolutely right. In my mind there are a lot of QBs who suck. Among the few top tiered QBs there are two that have constantly been surrounded by quality teams and haven't been able to get over the hump. One is Peyton Manning. And what is everyone's favorite adjective for him? The other is Donovan McNabb, but none of you will use that same adjective for DMac. Why? Oh right, because you're homers who will defend all things Eagles tooth and nail.

Homer? Yeah to an extent. But I will not defend everything about this team. They have flaws and i certainly point them out.

I can't see how you can say that the wild card and divisional games aren't big games. If he doesn't win those he can't make it to the NFCCG or SB. So would you rather he lose those games? Obviously not. But come on here.

The Carolina NFCCG was not on him. Not to mention he was hurt, but those WRs were not helping. Nor was Andy's playcalling that night. But no one wants to look at it like that. He's automatically blamed and when I (or anyone else) points this stuff out here comes the homer talk....

And the Tampa game was lost when Bobby Taylot INT'd the ball and they went three and out. Reid got conservative and blew it. He punts (it was a great punt by Lee Johnson) and then we all know what happened next- JJ takes off down the sideline. Obviously McNabb's INT was a killer, killer pick. Horrible. That was a collective effort. Reid stunk, McNabb stunk, defense stunk and Tra Thomas had his doors blown off by Rice.

[bowzer]

I don't think Mcnabb choked against the Rams.   The Eagles were on the road against a team that was quite dominant at the time.  Sure we didn't win... but we weren't supposed to.

Also, I think those interception stats are a little inflated... In the Carolina game along, Ricky Manning Jr. got like 3 interceptions from the balls bouncing off the wide receivers hands.. or the wide receivers not coming back to the ball or making a play for it.

Not to mention, your numbers should drop off in the a championship game or superbowl... As you progress through the season and in the playoffs, you'll be facing better defenses along the line... Tampa Bay, Carolina, and New England all had great defenses.

--- End of drunken post

[ice grillin you]

i love people picking apart every playoff game mcnabb ever lost to find anything to support it not being his fault...its pretty amazing...blame whoever you want the fact of the matter is the guy has never won THE big game in a career that has had more chances to do so than those most qb's that have ever played have had

ill even concede mcnabb has actually NEVER choked in a playoff game....but what he has never done is to step up and actually win one...especially the bigger games...

only ONCE in his postseason life has he thrown for more than 300 yards or two td's...and that was the superbowl in which he threw the game away with three ints and had 51 attempts...

[rjs246]

4 NFCCGs and 1 Superbowl: (I'll include the one big game that he won.)
101/177, 1051 yds, 6 TDs, 8 Ints

Take out the win:
84/151, 871 yds, 4 TDs, 8 Ints

These numbers deserve to be reposted. They don't lie. Andy Reid conservative play calling didn't throw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns in those playoff losses.

[ice grillin you]

yeah but four of those ints were off wr hands or in general were tipped

one time mcnabb was under pressure

pinky ran the wrong route on another

and on the last two the wind was blowing pretty hard

[rjs246]

The dead duck to Tedy Bruschi was my favorite.

[Diomedes]

and on the last two the wind was blowing pretty hard

haha

[ice grillin you]

worst play in eagles history

[SOARIN EAGLE]

I would trade 20 QB rating points for a farging running game.

Eagles have a running game Reid just doesn't use it. It's been this way since Reid has taken over the head coaching job. Fans never seem to get use to it. When we win with his game there are no complaints but when they lose everyone says we need a running game.