The Running Backs, Wide Receivers and other offensive questionmarks...

[reese125]

damn you--you selfish bastich

[PhillyPhanInDC]

Bunkley, your competely specualting these statements with no true evidence. your taking last season and automatically assuming he doubles his figues because Reid and Donovan claim him as the #1. show me consistency then I believe you

It's call projecting. Would you prefer me to wait until he has 75 catches and 1000 yards for me to say that he's capable of being that good? What is the point in that.

You have to project in this league. Fans project how players will turn out just like the team does. The team obviously thinks Reggie is ready to be the #1 by watching hours of film, and game time of him.

You may be right. Reggie Brown may not be a pro bowler, and may not be a good player down the road. I could be dead wrong. But just like I'm basing my projectings on no actual evidence, to say he won't be a great player is basing it on no evidence just the same. No one knows what Reggie Brown will be, so all we can do is project based on what we've seen.

Nice projectings.

There is evidence to say he won't turn into a "Pro Bowl" caliber wide receiver. Odds, for one. I haven't seen anyone say they think Brown will be a "bust" or "may not be a good player". Some people just question if he is a number one. Next point: All we can do is project on what we've seen? What have we seen? Last year, we saw him do as well, slightly better even, than the guys drafted ahead of him (Matt Jones, Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson, etc.). What have we seen since last season? He has done well in camps. He has done ZERO in the preseason games. Does that in anyway shape or form merit a projection as a number one receiver? Certainly not. Let's see what he does this year with McNabb and number one DBs in his face. Then maybe later your unfounded projectings will look like prophecy, although everyone present on this board will know you were taking a shot in the dark.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

He was the best rookie WR in the NFL last year, and had the best rookie season for the Eagles maybe ever.

I don't know what you didn't like, but when he took over as a starter last year, I saw pro bowl ability and talent. I don't know what's not to like. He's fast, he's strong, he jumps high, and has great hands. I don't see how he can't be a pro bowl player for years to come.

I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.

Awesome.

[The BIGSTUD]

My projections are unfounded yet you lose faith in a guy because of a few preseason games?

They mean absolutely nothing, and have absolutely no relevance to what kind of player he'll be this year.

[The BIGSTUD]

He was the best rookie WR in the NFL last year, and had the best rookie season for the Eagles maybe ever.

I don't know what you didn't like, but when he took over as a starter last year, I saw pro bowl ability and talent. I don't know what's not to like. He's fast, he's strong, he jumps high, and has great hands. I don't see how he can't be a pro bowl player for years to come.

I didn't say Brown is TO or Chad Johnson or Steve Smith. Even though I said I think he will be a pro bowler in the future, I still don't think he'll be on their level.

Awesome.

Something wrong with what I said? Just because you are a pro bowler, it doesn't mean you are TO or Chad Johnson. There are the Chris Chambers of the world who make the pro bowl, but aren't even close to TO or Chad Johnson's level.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

My projections are unfounded yet you lose faith in a guy because of a few preseason games?

They mean absolutely nothing, and have absolutely no relevance to what kind of player he'll be this year.

Okay. Look at it this way. Reggie outperformed the guys in his draft class, but not by a whole lot. Of the guys taken ahead of him, NONE were featured in the offense like a number one. So using your logic for predicting number one, "Pro Bowl" caliber wide recievers, Matt Jones, Troy Williamson, Mark Clayton, and Braylon Edwards, are "Pro Bowl" bound, and are definately number one guys? Let's add the Bengals' Chris Henry who caught two more TD's than Brown. He is a lock too I suppose.

Something wrong with what I said? Just because you are a pro bowler, it doesn't mean you are TO or Chad Johnson. There are the Chris Chambers of the world who make the pro bowl, but aren't even close to TO or Chad Johnson's level.

So help me understand. Brown <T.O. or Chad Johnson, but Brown >/= Chambers?

[reese125]

your beating a dead mule at this point phanin....and keep in mind who your debating against

[The BIGSTUD]

My projections are unfounded yet you lose faith in a guy because of a few preseason games?

They mean absolutely nothing, and have absolutely no relevance to what kind of player he'll be this year.

Okay. Look at it this way. Reggie outperformed the guys in his draft class, but not by a whole lot. Of the guys taken ahead of him, NONE were featured in the offense like a number one. So using your logic for predicting number one, "Pro Bowl" caliber wide recievers, Matt Jones, Troy Williamson, Mark Clayton, and Braylon Edwards, are "Pro Bowl" bound, and are definately number one guys? Let's add the Bengals' Chris Henry who caught two more TD's than Brown. He is a lock too I suppose.

Something wrong with what I said? Just because you are a pro bowler, it doesn't mean you are TO or Chad Johnson. There are the Chris Chambers of the world who make the pro bowl, but aren't even close to TO or Chad Johnson's level.

So help me understand. Brown <T.O. or Chad Johnson, but Brown >/= Chambers?

Braylon was a #1 until he got hurt. I think he's going to be a great receiver as well. Clayton was the #2 all year for Baltimore. Reggie was the #3 for half the season and the #1 for the other half.

and no, Brown isn't as good as Chambers now, but I think he'll be a better receiver than Chambers in a couple of years if not next year.

[Magical_Retard]

while im going to hold out till i see what reggie does in his first full season as the eagles #1 b4 making any projectios, positive or negative, i have a lot more faith in reggie brown than i ever did in thrash. we have nothing but last season to base our projections of reggie brown on. now u can take last yr 2 ways...he only did good cause teams knew we sucked and played half assed or when given the chance playing with a horrible qb he made something and showed glimpses of what he can do as a starter with a 10x better qb.

ill agree with bunkley here in that basing it off of last yr i think he will be fine and im more concerned more about the other WRs. im more worried about baskett. i always thought even with brown we needed someone else. walker, lelie, moulds, porter....someone. but we have baskett. one WR im willing to wait and see on but 2? i thought gaffney might be servicable but he doesnt seem to be doing anything.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The WR's are what they are.  It would be nice to add a Lelie or Stallworth to the mix, but I think this team is OK at WR... well, that is if you compare it to the RB situation.

Westbrook goes down... we're farged.  PERIOD.

[The BIGSTUD]

Definitely. Westbrook isn't a top 5 back, but you can argue Westbrook is more valuable to the Eagles than Tomlinson, Portis, Alexander and Larry Johnson is to their respective teams. Simply because the Eagles use Westbrook for so many things.

If he gets hurt this offense is absolutely farged. I don't care if we acquire a receiver or not, it'll still be farged even with Lelie.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You're absolutely right, except for the part about him being more valuable than Tomlinson, Alexander, and Larry Johnson to their respective teams.  Portis?  Maybe.

[The BIGSTUD]

Probably not Tomlinson, but I think with Alexander, and Portis he is. The Seahawks have a deeper receiving corps now, and even with Hutchinson gone, still probably have the best offensive line in football. I think they could be successful plugging in guys at RB, and they would still have a good passing attack.

I'm not sure about Larry Johnson. I think he'll suffer a bit with Roaf retiring, Welbourn retiring, and losing Tony Richardson. They also have Bennett who they picked up who can fill in. They've always had a great passing attack.

But, anyway, the point is as you agreed, that Westbrook is so important to this team that he simply can't go down for any extended periods of time.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Don't worry... Gaffney ready to challenge

Yay.

[Feva]

Ugh.