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[SD_Eagle5]

Andy said if he didn't trade up for McDougle he would have selected L.J. Smith at their original spot. Was he worth that high of a pick? Probably not, but we still would have had 2 2nds to address other needs.

[The BIGSTUD]

they traded up 12 spots or so to get him.

yes, it was a bad pick. you can homertastically quantify it any way you want. it was a bad pick.

the same way that sheldon brown was a great 2nd round pick, mcdougle was a zesty first rounder.

If that's the case, then what pick in the first round wouldn't have been a bad pick?

any one of them that have been able to play even marginally effectively for say...15 games...over the past 3 years. is that not a reasonable expectation of a 1st round pick you trade up over 10 spots to get?

I didn't mean it wasn't a bad pick. I meant compared to the other picks it doesn't look as bad. If everyone below McDougle turned out to be studs, then yes it would have been a horrendous pick, but that isn't the case. It was a bad pick based on McDougle's performance alone, but it wasn't a dreadful pick for the simple fact that there wasn't much else available that would have done more. So you can't totally fault the Eagles for that pick IMO. They saw a player they wanted, they went up and got him. He hasn't done anything yet, but either has most players taken behind him.

Totally different from the Freddie Mitchell selection IMO.

[Wingspan]

they traded up 12 spots or so to get him.

yes, it was a bad pick. you can homertastically quantify it any way you want. it was a bad pick.

the same way that sheldon brown was a great 2nd round pick, mcdougle was a zesty first rounder.

If that's the case, then what pick in the first round wouldn't have been a bad pick?

any one of them that have been able to play even marginally effectively for say...15 games...over the past 3 years. is that not a reasonable expectation of a 1st round pick you trade up over 10 spots to get?

I didn't mean it wasn't a bad pick. I meant compared to the other picks it doesn't look as bad. If everyone below McDougle turned out to be studs, then yes it would have been a horrendous pick, but that isn't the case. It was a bad pick based on McDougle's performance alone, but it wasn't a dreadful pick for the simple fact that there wasn't much else available that would have done more. So you can't totally fault the Eagles for that pick IMO. They saw a player they wanted, they went up and got him. He hasn't done anything yet, but either has most players taken behind him.

Totally different from the Freddie Mitchell selection IMO.

it wasn't a bad pick.

compared to the other picks it doesn't look as bad.

It was a bad pick based on McDougle's performance

but it wasn't a dreadful pick

do you ever listen to youself..

[The BIGSTUD]

Yeah, because taking clips out of posts means a whole lot. 

I'll summarize it for you so you can understand.

Bad pick? Yes
Terrible pick? No
Could they have done better? No.

[Wingspan]

i understand you point. it's just wrong.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Could they have done better? No.

Yes, they could have.  They could have stayed put at #30 and drafted Anquan Boldin or Osi Umeniyora.

[The BIGSTUD]

If you want to get that technical, then sure every team could've done better in every single draft they've ever done. I'm talking about the realistic options of what was available compared to what we got in McDougle.

It was either going to be offensive or defensive line in that draft. Plenty of teams passed on Umeniyora.

[PhillyGirl]

Well we know they'll never bash a player publicly, but you know when Andy isn't high on a player, like when asked about D'hani he replied "we need to improve in that area", thats being truthful. Maybe they overhyped Simoneau but  for the first month of his first season here he was the NFC defensive player of the month and as good as advertised. No idea as to why he sucked after that.

exactly. But some people hate this FO so much, they don't look at it objectively.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

@PF/"The Thing"/Bunkley78:
Maybe your overly homertastic opinions should occasionally be tempered with some reality, though.

[PhillyGirl]

Maybe your overly homertastic opinions should occasionally be tempered with some reality, though.

What was homertastic about what I said? The Eagles never pubicly bash a player. At the same time they were saying, "We're fine with the WRs we have" they went out and got TO. They don't EVER say something negative (shtein, they couldn't even say negative about FREDDIE) about a player. So just because they say they are happy to see so and so doing well, doesn't mean that guy has a spot on the team or they are trying to hype them up.

[rjs246]

Um, he wasn't talking to you. chill out freak show.

[PhillyGirl]

Um, he wasn't talking to you. chill out freak show.

yeah, he edited his post before I finished posting mine.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

That's why we should always quote the post we're responding to, either with the actual quote function or ghetto bold.

[rjs246]

Or maybe you should all just cram it with walnuts.

[reese125]

another bad attempt at humor Dangerfield