McNabb's Remark

Started by PhillyPhreak54, May 14, 2006, 02:44:24 AM

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reese125

I do give Mcnabb credit...he definitely handled the TO crap with professionalism and dignity on a media level, now in-house locker room style---he became the Tampax spokeman. Should of never of gotten that far

Feva

Quote from: Sun_Mo on May 15, 2006, 11:09:34 AM
i don't hear this stuff about McNabb nationally, only locally.  and if you don't think Peyton gets this shtein in Indy, you're kidding yourself.  every QB in every football city is under scrutiny.

Sorry Mo.. but this is some bull.

I don't live anywhere near Philly and I can tell you that McNabb gets TONS of national scrutiny.  There's not another QB who's had to endure shtein from Rush Limbaugh, from the NAACP, from TO... as well as from the local media... not even necessarily concerning his play, but concerning his race.  This shtein gets broadcasted and dissected NATIONALLY... not just up in a pocket of the northeast.  NO other QB has had to endure shtein like that, man.  Somebody find me an article reporting how someone questions Peyton Manning's whiteness.  Manning gets just the opposite.  I used to live pretty close to Indy and trust me... locally he's as much as a golden boy as he is nationally.  The worst he's had to deal with, even after his team suffering maybe the biggest choke in NFL history... is that he called out his offensive linemen... and even that was blown over in about a week.

Down here in Atlanta... where there are TONS of things to pick on the QB about... locally, they put Vick up on the highest pedestal in the history of Atlanta sports.  Sure... they have to bring up his shortcomings from time to time... but you better believe anytime they do that... another name is thrown in there to shoulder some blame as well.  Peerless Price?  Greg Knapp?  The entire defense?  Even the herpes thing has been swept under the rug here.  Can you imagine the Philly media on McNabb had that shtein happened to him?

Even Favre taking forever to decide he's gonna come back for another zesty season... nationally... he was protected and didn't really start getting ripped until the shtein just kept lingering and got out of hand.  Here... sure, we ripped the hell out of him, but nationally it was, "The Packers just haven't shown Brett that they're committed to winning."  Again... you can't tell me McNabb would have been treated as well.

Nationally, the whole thing on McNabb is if he can play without TO... as if he hasn't done shtein before then... and that TO "made" him.  How about the fact that TO had one of the best statistical years of his career in 2004 while catching passes from McNabb?  No one ever considers that McNabb raised TO's level of play as well.

I'm not saying that every writer across the country has to blow sunshine up the QB's ass all the time.  You rip him when he deserves it.. and you praise him when he deserves it.  In Philly... while they have no problems ripping the QB for things, they seem to come up short on the praising end too many times.  There is no QB in the league... hell, possibly in the history of the NFL that's had more shtein thrown at him for no reason than McNabb.  You can't tell me that every QB has to deal with that.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Philly is more critical of players' shortcomings than other cities in general.  That's nothing new.  Players, however, should learn to suck it up and develop some thick-ass skin to deal with it.  You have to respond (overly so, in some cases) for poor performance or stupid comments if you're a Philly sports star.

That said, none of this crap will matter if McNabb brings the Lombardi to Philly.

Feva

Funny enough... I agree.
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When you hear Donovan McNabb's name being mentioned on a local political radio show in Daytona Beach, Florida, you know that he's more visible than just about any other quarterback in the NFL.


reese125

someone spotted McNabb 1 month ago in Dayton Beach lying on the beach. He was on his back with his hands and feet in the the air, and somebody asked him what he was doing. He said, "Im tanning..why?"



Thats wrong.

Feva

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RezRob

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 15, 2006, 11:16:39 AM
boo hoo

suck it up and win a superbowl


mcnabb is a good qb but hes a little bitch...my problem with him is not his play its does he have what it takes emotionally to win it all

philly probably was not the best place for him to go

I guess none of our franchise players have ever been good enough then.
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If McNabb isn't great then the only QB in the NFL that is great is Brady. No one that knows football would say Manning is better than McNabb. When you draft a QB, you draft a QB who you think will give you the best chance at winning a Superbowl. Well since Manning has no shot at ever winning a Superbowl because he chokes every year and will continue to choke every year, McNabb has the edge.

He isn't as accurate as Manning, and doesn't read coverages as well, but he's got a better arm, he plays better in big games, and can do things when plays break down that Manning can't.

Also McNabb doesn't crumble into the dust when he gets sacked one time like Manning always does. Manning goes through the entire season without getting as much as touched and when he finally comes up against a good schemed defense in the playoffs that finds a way to get to Manning, and he gets sacked once, then he's done. He's lost mentally for the entire game.

So if McNabb isn't a great QB, then fine, but neither is anyone else in the league but Brady. Unless you want to be a fool and call Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, and Roethlisberger great, but everyone knows they didn't win the Superbowl, their defenses did.

Behind Brady McNabb is as good as anyone in the league. I have him as the 2nd best QB in the league. Carson Palmer could prove better, but has a lot to prove yet.
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 15, 2006, 04:27:54 PM
No one that knows football would say Manning is better than McNabb.

OK, sparky.

SD_Eagle5

This may make no sense at all, but Manning is the better Quarterback, McNabb is the better football player.

The BIGSTUD

If you want a QB who will be amazing during the regular season but guarantee you he'll never make it to a Superbowl every year then that's fine. Because that's the baggage that Manning comes with. He's going to choke in big games, it's pretty much a given. So when you have Manning on your team you also pretty much have the guarantee that your team will never win a Superbowl.

You have to factor in quality in the regular season with quality in playoffs.

Manning = great regular season QB, terrible playoff QB
McNabb = very good regular season QB, good playoff QB

McNabb gives you the better chance of winning games, which is the only thing that matters. Therefore McNabb is better. Otherwise you could foolishly argue that Manning is better than Brady which is so stupid it's not even worth arguing.

Manning is more accurate that Brady, they both read coverages exceptionally well, but where does Brady have the edge on Manning? Postseason and postseason only. As does McNabb. The regular season counts, but you have to factor in Manning's inability to win you a Superbowl. Do I know that Manning will NEVER win a Superbowl? No, but looking at what he's done in the past I'd say it's a very educated assumption.
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reese125

look at your first sentence and your last and tell me if that is contradicting at all. then get up off your chair, take a walk around the room, stretch yourself out, sit back down and write something that legitmally makes football sense

Eagles_Legendz

Quote from: Bunkley78 on May 15, 2006, 04:39:02 PM
If you want a QB who will be amazing during the regular season but guarantee you he'll never make it to a Superbowl every year then that's fine. Because that's the baggage that Manning comes with. He's going to choke in big games, it's pretty much a given. So when you have Manning on your team you also pretty much have the guarantee that your team will never win a Superbowl.

You have to factor in quality in the regular season with quality in playoffs.

Manning = great regular season QB, terrible playoff QB
McNabb = very good regular season QB, good playoff QB

McNabb gives you the better chance of winning games, which is the only thing that matters. Therefore McNabb is better. Otherwise you could foolishly argue that Manning is better than Brady which is so stupid it's not even worth arguing.

Manning is more accurate that Brady, they both read coverages exceptionally well, but where does Brady have the edge on Manning? Postseason and postseason only. As does McNabb. The regular season counts, but you have to factor in Manning's inability to win you a Superbowl. Do I know that Manning will NEVER win a Superbowl? No, but looking at what he's done in the past I'd say it's a very educated assumption.

Except there is one pretty large mistake in your post and that is you are equating McNabb to Brady in terms of postseason success. 

I love McNabb, and he has had SOME playoff success, but to make comparisons of McNabb and Brady and saying they are better than Manning because they have experienced better fortune in the playoffs is foolish.  You can make that argument for Brady--he has the rings to back it up.  But for McNabb?  He's gotten to one more SB than Manning and didn't win.  Really, then, has he had that much more success in the postseason? 

You can say that Manning's offensive skill players have been better than McNabb, which is of course true.  However, he's also had to play NE and their defense in the playoffs repeatedly, whereas the Eagles have played a weaker NFC. 

What I will say is that I think McNabb is a borderline top 5 QB, and I'm happy to have him here, but I'm not sure I'd rather have him than Manning, and their ultimate playoff success is really not so different--certainly not different enough to warrant comparison to what Brady's accomplished.