Sixers Season thread 2

[hunt]

and what's the good in having him around once he loses a step?
i'm not saying to trade him for greg ostertag...but i would explore trading him now, before he loses a step & you're stuck paying him $20 mill per year to shoot jumpers.
it would be the beginning of a rebuilding process...but at least it would give them some hope of competing in the future.

[PhillyPhreak54]

My whole point is that you have to see which is a better option and I think keeping him and trying to patch something together here is the better option. If you trade him you don't know what's going to happen. You won't have to take a scrub like Ostertag but you will have to take a guy who has a matching contract. Who has big contracts like that and are on the block? Mostly older guys who aren't anything special.

Jalen Rose for AI? Would you do that/ because that is probably something like youd get.

If you dealt him then what? You get to watch them go 19-62. But hey...at least the young guys and the old big contract guy you got back in return are playing, right?

[Rome]

Is it smarter to get on with the rebuilding process now or accept mediocrity for the next five years or so while Iverson's skills deteriorate?

Personally, I'd choose the former, but then again, I'm a hater.   

[PhillyPhreak54]

Not only are you a hater...but you're a stinkin Magic fan! Go worship Jameer and Dwight, bish!!

Seriously though...what are you going to rebuild with?!?! You won't get any pieces to aid in rebuilding by trading him!!

[Sgt PSN]

Seriously though...what are you going to rebuild with?!?! You won't get any pieces to aid in rebuilding by trading him!!

I am not in favor of trading AI but I think I see what hunt is getting at......

Eventhough you won't get equal value for AI, you get rid of his contract and can rebuild in a different direction.  Build a team where AI isn't the focal point.  It still won't happen overnight but it gives the team the ability to sign other players who can fill multiple holes on the roster. 

But I still wouldn't trade him.  I luv me sum AI. 

[Rome]

Not only are you a hater...but you're a stinkin Magic fan! Go worship Jameer and Dwight, bish!!

Seriously though...what are you going to rebuild with?!?! You won't get any pieces to aid in rebuilding by trading him!!

I realize you won't get a fair return on him.  If you could, then you wouldn't make the deal to begin with.

It's definitely a catch-22, Jay, but at the same time, it will have to be done eventually, so why not just get on with it?

[hunt]

they'd get somebody better than jalen rose, that's for sure.
and keep in mind that it would most likely be a multi-player deal so we're not talking about moving ai straight up for 1 other player...that almost never happens in the nba.

and i totally disagree about "patching something together" around him...they've been doing that & it isn't working.  he's not an easy player to "patch" around.

[PhillyPhreak54]

But the thing is...you're not getting rid of his contract really. Since you have to match contracts to trade in the NBA it is crazy. So technically you'd be getting ri dof AI's $20+ a year contract but youd be taking on another players $20M+ a year deal or two players who make the equivalent to that.

Billy King needs to get two defensive minded players. And if that means exceeding the luxury tax ceiling then so be it. Ed Snider should approve that.

[Sgt PSN]

We need Matt Geiger. 

[Rome]

Exceed the luxury tax?  Oh, great... then they'd be on their way to being the Knicks.



Cut your losses now and re-build.  That's their only option as far as I can see.

[hunt]

But the thing is...you're not getting rid of his contract really. Since you have to match contracts to trade in the NBA it is crazy. So technically you'd be getting ri dof AI's $20+ a year contract but youd be taking on another players $20M+ a year deal or two players who make the equivalent to that.

you try to get shorter contracts in return.

[SD_Eagle5]

Cut your losses now and re-build.  That's their only option as far as I can see.

Rebuild around what? There has to be a foundation before you can rebuild. None of the young guys are that talented. Sorry, but Iggy's not a scorer or a guy you can rebuild around.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

AI could be fairly lethal with the Pacers.

[ice grillin you]

Sorry, but Iggy's not a scorer or a guy you can rebuild around.

how could you possibly know this after a season and a half?

jermaine oneal took four years
mcgrady three years
ect...

iguodala came out of arizona as a 19 year old...hes played a year and a half of pro basketball as a non option on a team...there no possible way you can make a blanket statement like that

[SD_Eagle5]

He's athletic as all hell, I'll give him that, but do you see a guy who knows how to create his own shot? How bout his jump shot? He's a good defender (I think he's a little overrated defensively), can grab boards, dish the ball etc. Most of his buckets are in the form of an alley hoop or dunk of some kind. I just don't think he has the touch to be a good NBA scorer. I think he'd fit well with any team but not a player you could build around.