Heckert Promoted to Eagles GM

Started by Beermonkey, January 02, 2006, 07:56:18 PM

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We'll have a solid draft, and do well in free agency

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SunMo

from what I gather, the choosing of what actual players they pursue will not change, Heckert will do all the leg work, present the options to Reid and Reid will make the decision.  But the difference will be is that Heckert will now negotiate the contracts instead of Banner, which is good from what we're hearing.

you could always tell on TV that Banner would take contract negotiations personally, you can't have that.
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Feva

Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 03, 2006, 08:42:08 AM
you could always tell on TV that Banner would take contract negotiations personally, you can't have that.

I'm with you there.  That interview with Banner on the sideline on ESPN was brutal.  You could see plain as day that he was pissed over the whole WR ordeal.
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Beermonkey

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 03, 2006, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on January 03, 2006, 08:42:08 AM
you could always tell on TV that Banner would take contract negotiations personally, you can't have that.

I'm with you there.  That interview with Banner on the sideline on ESPN was brutal.  You could see plain as day that he was pissed over the whole WR ordeal.

Banner should never, ever, ever, never be allowed to talk to the media. Between his lack of media tact & the fact his physical appearance seems to irk our anti-semitic fans, it's best to keep him in the background.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on January 02, 2006, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 02, 2006, 09:29:07 PM
How long is Banner under contract for? I can't see him taking this demotion and obvious favoritism lightly. I'm glad Heckert was promoted but I wonder how much control Andy will really give up. I think it's just a title and things will stay the same.

I really thing this was a step in the right direction for several reasons:


  • Heckert could have gone to another team that would have given him broad control on personnel decisions. Why would he stay here for title only?

  • Reid trusts him quite a bit. So much so that I believe Reid will be willing to give all of the responsibility to him.

  • Banner can go to hell. And Lurie and Reid would really have no problem with it. IMHO Banner screwed himself a bit, not so much to get canned, but enough to have some responsibility removed, and be happy that is all that happened. He'll structure contracts for the good of the team/cap, but have zero interface with the players. That's huge. Him spouting in the media about the TO deal, only added fuel to an inferno, and was unacceptable given his position.

  • I think the biggest reason it makes sense, is it sends a message to the team, that the FO is not there to bully them into drinking their Kool-Aid, and will work with them to make things better.

It will be an exciting offseason, Childress will leave, and I think we'll get Mariucci. We'll have a solid draft, and do well in free agency. I don't think they will sign any big name free agents, but will get solid players, and put them in a good position, with a revamped system. The Eagles will be back in a big way next year.  :yay

From Spew:
QuoteEverything remains status quo.... There was no GM title assigned previously.

Nothings changed.

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2006, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on January 02, 2006, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 02, 2006, 09:29:07 PM
How long is Banner under contract for? I can't see him taking this demotion and obvious favoritism lightly. I'm glad Heckert was promoted but I wonder how much control Andy will really give up. I think it's just a title and things will stay the same.

I really thing this was a step in the right direction for several reasons:


  • Heckert could have gone to another team that would have given him broad control on personnel decisions. Why would he stay here for title only?

  • Reid trusts him quite a bit. So much so that I believe Reid will be willing to give all of the responsibility to him.

  • Banner can go to hell. And Lurie and Reid would really have no problem with it. IMHO Banner screwed himself a bit, not so much to get canned, but enough to have some responsibility removed, and be happy that is all that happened. He'll structure contracts for the good of the team/cap, but have zero interface with the players. That's huge. Him spouting in the media about the TO deal, only added fuel to an inferno, and was unacceptable given his position.

  • I think the biggest reason it makes sense, is it sends a message to the team, that the FO is not there to bully them into drinking their Kool-Aid, and will work with them to make things better.

It will be an exciting offseason, Childress will leave, and I think we'll get Mariucci. We'll have a solid draft, and do well in free agency. I don't think they will sign any big name free agents, but will get solid players, and put them in a good position, with a revamped system. The Eagles will be back in a big way next year.  :yay

From Spew:
QuoteEverything remains status quo.... There was no GM title assigned previously.

Nothings changed.

Screw that. There is no way Heckert takes the title and no responsibility when he could have gotten the title, the money, and the added responsibility elsewhere. Not buying it.
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RezRob

It worked in Seattle when Andy's dad gave up GM title. I think once Reid relys on heckert and focuses more on coaching it will help the team. It takes some pressure off him.
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Tomahawk

I like the move because if nothing else it helps Reid with player relations.

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on January 03, 2006, 10:23:16 AM
Screw that. There is no way Heckert takes the title and no responsibility when he could have gotten the title, the money, and the added responsibility elsewhere. Not buying it.

Believe what you want, but there's your proof. Andy still has the final say on all personell decisions.

MadMarchHare

"If you want me to make dinner, you got let me buy the groceries."

It makes sense for the coach to have final say.  But I think if he isn't spending any time looking for the answers, he can focus more on game day preparation.  Cause God knows, if the game plan doesn't work, we sure as hell can't adjust it during the game.....
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Wingspan

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2006, 10:57:11 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on January 03, 2006, 10:23:16 AM
Screw that. There is no way Heckert takes the title and no responsibility when he could have gotten the title, the money, and the added responsibility elsewhere. Not buying it.

Believe what you want, but there's your proof. Andy still has the final say on all personell decisions.

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timone96

This seems to be a good move...let AR focus on the coaching, and perhaps not being quite so predictable.

Heckert seems like a good guy, Banner can go more in the background...perhaps this is the beginning of some very necessary changes in the offseason.

Feva

What the hell are you doing here?  ;D
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timone96

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 03, 2006, 12:59:37 PM
What the hell are you doing here?  ;D

I've been lurking here for over a year  now.   ;)

ice grillin you

let AR focus on the coaching

is this really a good thing?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous