Heckert Promoted to Eagles GM

Started by Beermonkey, January 02, 2006, 07:56:18 PM

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Wingspan

i dont hate the guy at all. but PR is PR.

he posts nothing on that website (in the element of news) without it getting a stamp of approval from somewhere else in the organization. which it would be a bad PR move for him to come out and tell us how great the eagles were despite the record. so he'll do his minor handslapping of the team to make it look more real.

the guy serves a purpose, but not as an viable source of news, and especially in analyzing team moves.
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:02:17 PM


the guy serves a purpose, but not as an viable source of news, and especially in analyzing team moves.

Spew aside, do you really think Heckert is calling the shots now?

General_Failure

I think Joe Banner is calling the shots from his undisclosed location inside a bunker.

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Wingspan

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2006, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:02:17 PM


the guy serves a purpose, but not as an viable source of news, and especially in analyzing team moves.

Spew aside, do you really think Heckert is calling the shots now?

in a way. yes. i think reid will still have the end say in the matter if he is really for or against someone being brought in. but i would imagine that heckert has more responsibility and accountibility into who he suggests. and maybe in some cases, heckert can bring someone in on his own accord. maybe heckert has made enough solid suggestions to reid to gain his trust in making his own decisions for the eagles?

time will tell.

but i would assume, that if Heckert is who people say he is, he wouldnt have just said OK to the eagles, when he apparently had a chance to run the whole show in minnesota, without gaining some leverage within the eagles.
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:10:54 PM
but i would assume, that if Heckert is who people say he is, he wouldnt have just said OK to the eagles, when he apparently had a chance to run the whole show in minnesota, without gaining some leverage within the eagles.

Think about this: You've been in Philly for 5 or 6 seasons, have made the playoffs 5 seasons and went to the SB. Minnesota (granted they had a better record than us) -- a freakin joke of an organization -- comes calling and wants you to be their GM. The Eagles then turn to you and say "here, you're now the GM, just stay." Would you stay or go?


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Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:10:54 PM
but i would assume, that if Heckert is who people say he is, he wouldnt have just said OK to the eagles, when he apparently had a chance to run the whole show in minnesota, without gaining some leverage within the eagles.

Of course he got some leverage - that's why he got a promotion and I'm sure a fat little raise.  But when the chioce is do what you are doing or take a gamble in a shteinhole organization...it was a no-brainer.
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Wingspan

Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2006, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:10:54 PM
but i would assume, that if Heckert is who people say he is, he wouldnt have just said OK to the eagles, when he apparently had a chance to run the whole show in minnesota, without gaining some leverage within the eagles.

Think about this: You've been in Philly for 5 or 6 seasons, have made the playoffs 5 seasons and went to the SB. Minnesota (granted they had a better record than us) -- a freakin joke of an organization -- comes calling and wants you to be their GM. The Eagles then turn to you and say "here, you're now the GM, just stay." Would you stay or go?



it depends on how much control i have over the situation. the new minnesota owner is trying to fix things there.

and for heckert to turn down the opportunity to have final say on everything, he had to have been given more than just a new title and a raise from the eagles. logic says he got more control out of it. thats if heckert is a man of character, and not just in it for the money,.
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MadMarchHare

There are other considerations:  what if his family loves Philly?  I hate the winters in Chicago, and they're way worse in MN.
Anyone but Reid.

bobbyinlondon

Apparently, Heckert wouldn't have had as much control as we all thought. This is a blurb for m yesterday's Star Tribune:


Heckert apparently is the top choice among four candidates for a job that likely will carry a vice president's title but fall short of a traditional general manager's role.

http://www.star-tribune.com

Meanwhile, in a story update recently (this morning), Brad Childress is the top candidate to replace Tice. He interviewed in a downtown Minneapolis hotel yesterday and is scheduled to be interivewed in Green Bay today. The Chiefs also apparently are looking at him.

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PhillyPhreak54

Oakland has also contacted Childress.

But anyone who goes to that organization is nuts. Al Davis is a psycho.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 04, 2006, 08:22:17 AM
But anyone who goes to that organization is nuts. Al Davis is a psycho.

Sean Payton, who only a few years before was stripped of playcalling duties by Jim Fassel while the OC with the Giants, elected to stay with Parcells in Dallas instead of getting his first NFL HC job with Oakland.

That pretty much says it all.

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Quote from: FFatPatt on January 04, 2006, 08:37:07 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 04, 2006, 08:22:17 AM
But anyone who goes to that organization is nuts. Al Davis is a psycho.

Sean Payton, who only a few years before was stripped of playcalling duties by Jim Fassel while the OC with the Giants, elected to stay with Parcells in Dallas instead of getting his first NFL HC job with Oakland.

That pretty much says it all.

Payton is going to be a very good HC someday.  He still needs a year or two to develop, but he is going to be a good one.
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Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 03, 2006, 03:19:55 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 03, 2006, 03:10:54 PM
but i would assume, that if Heckert is who people say he is, he wouldnt have just said OK to the eagles, when he apparently had a chance to run the whole show in minnesota, without gaining some leverage within the eagles.

Think about this: You've been in Philly for 5 or 6 seasons, have made the playoffs 5 seasons and went to the SB. Minnesota (granted they had a better record than us) -- a freakin joke of an organization -- comes calling and wants you to be their GM. The Eagles then turn to you and say "here, you're now the GM, just stay." Would you stay or go?



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