Yankees Offseason Thread

[hunt]

this is what im telling you...

blah...blah...blah...

still wrong.
you make up numbers & expect me to believe you?....ummmm, sorry dook.

ignoring all your internet tough talk & predictable "bandwagon fan" insults, damon in CF is much better than bernie williams in CF...no matter what park you're talking about.  THAT's the only point that matters.

moron.

[hunt]

When is Steinbrenner going to realize that pitching wins? The last thing the Yankees need is more runs added to the lineup. Sure, it can't hurt but the point is this - no one is afraid of Unit anymore, Mussina is old, Pavano doesn't want to be there, Wang has shoulder problems, and Small will not be 10-0 again.

cf was a definite need and there aren't any decent starting pitchers available.  if one becomes available, i'm sure they'll look at signing him.  signing damon doesn't prevent them from making any other moves...they're not the sils.

It was a huge need, and it makes the Yankees a better team. Both by giving them a leadoff hitter and a CF, as well as taking from Boston. But, shouldn't efforts be made to go out and get some pitching? This is the worst rotation the Yankees have had to start a season since 95. Murderers Row of 06 or not, with this staff, the Yankees won't be winning #27 anytime soon.

I'd rather have a quality staff like the Sox had last year (with two Yankee castoffs, mind you) with a better than average lineup, than a below average staff with the Yanks lineup. You can argue that, or just look at recent history.

i agree that the yanks need to upgrade their starters...but boston had the 4th worst ERA in the american league last season.

[hunt]

there aren't any decent starting pitchers available.

Javier Vazquez, oh wait you got rid of him already. Jose Contreras, oh wait, him too, Orlando Hernandez... hmmm...

i said decent.

[henchmanUK]

When is Steinbrenner going to realize that pitching wins? The last thing the Yankees need is more runs added to the lineup. Sure, it can't hurt but the point is this - no one is afraid of Unit anymore, Mussina is old, Pavano doesn't want to be there, Wang has shoulder problems, and Small will not be 10-0 again.

cf was a definite need and there aren't any decent starting pitchers available.  if one becomes available, i'm sure they'll look at signing him.  signing damon doesn't prevent them from making any other moves...they're not the sils.

It was a huge need, and it makes the Yankees a better team. Both by giving them a leadoff hitter and a CF, as well as taking from Boston. But, shouldn't efforts be made to go out and get some pitching? This is the worst rotation the Yankees have had to start a season since 95. Murderers Row of 06 or not, with this staff, the Yankees won't be winning #27 anytime soon.

I'd rather have a quality staff like the Sox had last year (with two Yankee castoffs, mind you) with a better than average lineup, than a below average staff with the Yanks lineup. You can argue that, or just look at recent history.

i agree that the yanks need to upgrade their starters...but boston had the 4th worst ERA in the american league last season.

Think he might be talking about them other Sox, you know the WORLD CHAMPIONS.

[DH]

i agree that the yanks need to upgrade their starters...but boston had the 4th worst ERA in the american league last season.

And they got swept in the first round. The Sox I meant were the White ones though.

Boston needed to upgrade their pitching and they went out and grabbed Josh Beckett. Great move for them - maybe the Yanks should have tried to trade for him?

Listen, the Yankees clearly leapfrogged over Boston by signing Damon, but they won't win it all this year w/o some serious pitching changes.

[hunt]

When is Steinbrenner going to realize that pitching wins? The last thing the Yankees need is more runs added to the lineup. Sure, it can't hurt but the point is this - no one is afraid of Unit anymore, Mussina is old, Pavano doesn't want to be there, Wang has shoulder problems, and Small will not be 10-0 again.

cf was a definite need and there aren't any decent starting pitchers available.  if one becomes available, i'm sure they'll look at signing him.  signing damon doesn't prevent them from making any other moves...they're not the sils.

It was a huge need, and it makes the Yankees a better team. Both by giving them a leadoff hitter and a CF, as well as taking from Boston. But, shouldn't efforts be made to go out and get some pitching? This is the worst rotation the Yankees have had to start a season since 95. Murderers Row of 06 or not, with this staff, the Yankees won't be winning #27 anytime soon.

I'd rather have a quality staff like the Sox had last year (with two Yankee castoffs, mind you) with a better than average lineup, than a below average staff with the Yanks lineup. You can argue that, or just look at recent history.

i agree that the yanks need to upgrade their starters...but boston had the 4th worst ERA in the american league last season.

Think he might be talking about them other Sox, you know the WORLD CHAMPIONS.

okay, we get it....the eagles fan from the UK is also a white sox fan, even though he never, ever mentioned them until last season.
congrats.

[henchmanUK]

Being called a bandwagoner by a Yanks fan. Awesome.

[hunt]

i agree that the yanks need to upgrade their starters...but boston had the 4th worst ERA in the american league last season.

And they got swept in the first round. The Sox I meant were the White ones though.

Boston needed to upgrade their pitching and they went out and grabbed Josh Beckett. Great move for them - maybe the Yanks should have tried to trade for him?

Listen, the Yankees clearly leapfrogged over Boston by signing Damon, but they won't win it all this year w/o some serious pitching changes.

beckett is a career .500 pitcher & the bosox gave up their top prospects for him...no thanks.
and it's only december....plenty of time to make some changes to the starting rotations...& they've already addressed the pen.

[hunt]

Being called a bandwagoner by a Yanks fan. Awesome.

i don't see a denial in there.

and i can guarantee that i've been a yankees fan longer than you' ve been a white sox fan....i bet you've never even heard of ron kittle.

[MURP]

actually, he talked about them back in 2003.


http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=8906.msg117829#msg117829

[DH]

Yea, but he's 26 and providing he stays healthy, he'll be a workhorse for years to come.

Good job revamping the pen though.

The Yanks are still the second best team in NY though. 

[ice grillin you]

you never heard of death valley and think fenway is a bigger outfield than yankee stadium so id say yous are even


Indications are that Boras then let the Red Sox know the kind of money it would take to keep Damon, and they told him they weren't willing to go anywhere near $50 million.

Damon hit .316 for the Sox last season, and scored 117 runs from the leadoff spot. But he stole only 18 bases, his lowest total since 1997, and was bothered by a shoulder injury. The Sox feels he has lost some of his range in center field, and they're worried that with his notoriously weak arm, he wouldn't be able to play center field, especially in Yankee Stadium, effectively much longer.

"They just didn't think he was worth that kind of money," the Sox insider said.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Are people actually arguing that the Yankees won't be good enough to win it all?

If the starting rotation proves to be weak, Steinbrenner will go out and get help before the deadline.  At worst, the Yankees are clearly the best team in their division and will make a run.  At WORST.

I dislike the Yankees, but don't fool yourselves into thinking they'll suck this year.

[hunt]

you never heard of death valley and think fenway is a bigger outfield than yankee stadium so id say yous are even


Indications are that Boras then let the Red Sox know the kind of money it would take to keep Damon, and they told him they weren't willing to go anywhere near $50 million.

Damon hit .316 for the Sox last season, and scored 117 runs from the leadoff spot. But he stole only 18 bases, his lowest total since 1997, and was bothered by a shoulder injury. The Sox feels he has lost some of his range in center field, and they're worried that with his notoriously weak arm, he wouldn't be able to play center field, especially in Yankee Stadium, effectively much longer.

"They just didn't think he was worth that kind of money," the Sox insider said.

the sox insider thinks the red sox were right for letting damon go?  i'm shocked!

next thing you know, spadaro will start agreeing with the eagles front office.

[Sgt PSN]

actually, he talked about them back in 2003.


http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=8906.msg117829#msg117829

That thread made me laugh.  PG was joking with Card Trader.   


I also remember Henchman talking about the ChiSox long before they became WS contenders so his fandom is legit imo.