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Started by stillupfront, December 19, 2005, 10:02:26 AM

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stillupfront

We can all acknowledge that he has lost a step. That being said, can he play WIL? Will that solve one of our inadequacies on Defense?


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Cerevant

Hey crackhead - what ever happened to your buddy Stalker?
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MadMarchHare

I'm too busy looking for his replacement.

We let go of Vincent when he lost his step.  It's time for Dawk to go.  He doesn't even wrap up anymore.
Anyone but Reid.

stillupfront

Buddy R brought in an old SS to play WIL and it was a nice fit. Very similar position but pass coverage duties are a little different. Dawk is a real leader and would be sorely missed. He is a tremendous blitzer and could be utilized more in JJ's blitz zscemes.


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hunt

a 5'10, 200 lb WIL would rule! :yay
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RezRob

You guys are crackheads. Maybe JJ shoudn't put him on an island vs Torry Holt, but Dawk is still a damn fine Safety. You may want look at the young SS who can't cover or tackle lately. IMO  ::)
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MadMarchHare

He can't or won't tackle any more.  He WAS a damn fine safety, and a great lockerroom presence, but so was Vincent.
Time to move on.
Anyone but Reid.

ice grillin you

dawk is fine for the one year he has left on his contract...especially so if they get some production from the seven people in front of him
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Susquehanna Birder

He can't or won't tackle? Wow...

There were a few INTs I wish he'd caught agains the Rams, but other than that, I don't see what you people are whining about.

I honestly hope you all don't want a defense that consistently puts the safeties in a position where they have to make a lot of solo tackles.

MURP

#9
sure, Dawkins has missed some big plays this year that he should have made, but this talk of him being done is nonsense.

Year Team                G    Total Tckl     Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 Philadelphia Eagles 14 85 63.0 22 1 3 41 13.7 30 0 6
1997 Philadelphia Eagles 15 81 67.0 14 0 3 76 25.3 64 1 8
1998 Philadelphia Eagles 14 57 45.0 12 1 2 39 19.5 30 0 5
1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 73 52.0 21 1.5 4 127 31.8 67 1 20
2000 Philadelphia Eagles 13 71 54.0 17 2 4 62 15.5 32 0 6
2001 Philadelphia Eagles 15 68 56.0 12 1.5 2 15 7.5 15 0 14
2002 Philadelphia Eagles 16 91 62.0 29 3 2 27 13.5 27 0 9
2003 Philadelphia Eagles 7 35 28.0 7 0.5 1 0 0.0 0 0 5
2004 Philadelphia Eagles 15 69 61.0 8 3 4 40 10.0 32 0 8
2005 Philadelphia Eagles 14 64 55.0 9 3.5 3 24 8.0 24 0 18
TOTAL 139 694 543.0 151 17 28 451 16.1 67 2 99



Dawkins  is closing in on a career high in passes defended and has a career high in sacks.   He is right on pace with tackles and INT's.   I agree that he has blown some plays this year, as has the entire pathetic D.  I think having Dawkins 1 on 1 with Torry Holt is just stupid.  Holt should win that 9 ouy of 10 times.   Dawkins has been put in a position of covering some of the better players the Eagles face and it can make him look very  poor when those players score or come up with a big play.   I think JJ asks Dawkins to do a lot more than some other D coordinators ask their FS to do, which can sometimes blow up in their faces.

Tomahawk

Could you decode that quote? Like all my posts, it appears to be nonsensical.

MadMarchHare

My problem isn't his play in left field.  He's a safety, and shouldn't be covering receivers one-on-one, agreed.
My issue is tackling, he just seems to be going for the hit and not wrapping up this year.  Maybe this is what Johnson meant when he said "our new attitude", but I'd rather he wrap up than thump someone.
Anyone but Reid.

MURP

I agree that his tackling form has been somewhat subpar this season.  Personally I think the reason is that he tries to strip the ball most of the time which can lead to ugly looking and missed tackles.  On the other hand, Dawkins has 4 forced fumbles this year.   Adams, Trotter, Jones, Hood, Lewis, Sheppard and Brown have 5 combined. 

stillupfront

Quote from: MURP on December 19, 2005, 12:23:16 PM
sure, Dawkins has missed some big plays this year that he should have made, but this talk of him being done is nonsense.

Year Team                G    Total Tckl     Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1996 Philadelphia Eagles 14 85 63.0 22 1 3 41 13.7 30 0 6
1997 Philadelphia Eagles 15 81 67.0 14 0 3 76 25.3 64 1 8
1998 Philadelphia Eagles 14 57 45.0 12 1 2 39 19.5 30 0 5
1999 Philadelphia Eagles 16 73 52.0 21 1.5 4 127 31.8 67 1 20
2000 Philadelphia Eagles 13 71 54.0 17 2 4 62 15.5 32 0 6
2001 Philadelphia Eagles 15 68 56.0 12 1.5 2 15 7.5 15 0 14
2002 Philadelphia Eagles 16 91 62.0 29 3 2 27 13.5 27 0 9
2003 Philadelphia Eagles 7 35 28.0 7 0.5 1 0 0.0 0 0 5
2004 Philadelphia Eagles 15 69 61.0 8 3 4 40 10.0 32 0 8
2005 Philadelphia Eagles 14 64 55.0 9 3.5 3 24 8.0 24 0 18
TOTAL 139 694 543.0 151 17 28 451 16.1 67 2 99



Dawkins  is closing in on a career high in passes defended and has a career high in sacks.   He is right on pace with tackles and INT's.   I agree that he has blown some plays this year, as has the entire pathetic D.  I think having Dawkins 1 on 1 with Torry Holt is just stupid.  Holt should win that 9 ouy of 10 times.   Dawkins has been put in a position of covering some of the better players the Eagles face and it can make him look very  poor when those players score or come up with a big play.   I think JJ asks Dawkins to do a lot more than some other D coordinators ask their FS to do, which can sometimes blow up in their faces.

Agreed, he is having a statistically good to great year, but he just doesn't seem to be superman anymore. Watching games with my son, he always panics when teams get in the red-zone, my answer used to be: "Don't worry Dawkins will make a huge play. That doesn't seem to be the case this year. Maybe it's the other guys not funneling like they used to. Maybe it's because he is a 10 year vet and worn down. Maybe Dawk has been hurt and won't admit it.


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Larry

I'd think about moving Dawkins to SS before LB.  Michael Lewis should be a LB.

If that were to be done, we'd have to find a FS with good range to play center field.
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