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Started by stillupfront, December 19, 2005, 10:02:26 AM

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PhillyGirl

Perhaps if he wasn't left alone on an island constantly by having a zesty D in front of him, he might be able to do more.

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MadMarchHare

What's he scheduled to make next year?  If it's really high, I think you'd have to consider it.
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Diomedes

It doesn't matter whether by "moving" you mean, to another position or to another team, I wouldn't even begin to think about moving Dawk until after next year.  He's not been dominant this year, that's true.  But he's still a damn fine safety, and this team has much much bigger problems than his position.Crackhead.
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Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 19, 2005, 01:34:31 PM
What's he scheduled to make next year?  If it's really high, I think you'd have to consider it.

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QuoteBrian Dawkins-Dawkins signed a 7 year extension during the 2003 season.  Many sources reported the signing bonus to be 8 mil.  However, when I try to match that proration up with the salary cap numbers Len Pasquerelli had for Dawkins, it wouldn't match up.  When I prorated a 4.5 mil signing bonus over 7 years, it matched up almost exactly, meaning that there was prorable a roster bonus of 3.5 mil.  Either way, the final 3 years of the deal were made to void and the prorations from those years therefor accelerated into the 2003 season.  His cap numbers are as follows:
2004: $1,648,457 (1 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+5,600 workout bonus; $1,928,571 dead money if cut)
2005: $1,994,017 (1.345 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+6,160 workout bonus; $1,285,714 dead money if cut)
2006: $3,649,017 (3 mil base salary+642,857 pro.+6,160 workout bonus; $642,857 dead money if cut)

MadMarchHare

Eh, he's pretty cheap, then.  He can stay.
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General_Failure

Quote from: MURP on December 19, 2005, 12:38:43 PM
I agree that his tackling form has been somewhat subpar this season.  Personally I think the reason is that he tries to strip the ball most of the time which can lead to ugly looking and missed tackles.  On the other hand, Dawkins has 4 forced fumbles this year.   Adams, Trotter, Jones, Hood, Lewis, Sheppard and Brown have 5 combined. 

Trying to force a fumble is nice and all, except for when it doesn't work, which is most of the time. You know what would be nice though? Some tackles that make the offense punt once in a while.

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mussa

wow, its all come down to dawkins bashing now.  hes prob been our most consistent defender all year.  followed closely by trotter.  i don't think hes lost a step at all.  its a team sport people.  that throw by fitzpatrick was perfect.  nobody could of defended that.  we better all hope hes around for a few more years. 
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Bottom Line:  Dawkins has missed more plays this year than usual, but he's still damn good.

Replacing him for 2006 would be a bad idea, but finding an eventual replacement would be a great idea.

Cerevant

I think this is the end of JJ's "nasty attitude" era.  Between the CBs jumping routes trying to get picks and other players missing the tackle trying to get the strip...  It is time to go back to defense with good fundamentals.
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Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 19, 2005, 12:29:47 PMMaybe this is what Johnson meant when he said "our new attitude", but I'd rather he wrap up than thump someone.

I think you're on to something there. This year we were supposed to see a lot more emphasis on turnovers, and I'm sure the players were pushed to go for the higher-risk strip than for the sure reward of the textbook tackle. If so, I can't blame Dawkins for that.

PhillyPhreak54

Why was this thread started?

WIL? :-D :-D

Dawkins said he wants to play 5 more years. He has 5 more years in him and it better be in Philadelphia.

If Rod Woodson, Troy Vincent and guys like that can hang on forever and play FS so can Dawk.

SunMo

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 19, 2005, 04:34:02 PM
Why was this thread started?

WIL? :-D :-D

Dawkins said he wants to play 5 more years. He has 5 more years in him and it better be in Philadelphia.

If Rod Woodson, Troy Vincent and guys like that can hang on forever and play FS so can Dawk.

the only problem with those guys is that they were fast corners who could move to safety when they lost a step or two.  Dawkins is a safety who has lost a step this year.  but he should be ok for a couple more years.
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PhillyPhreak54

As long as he is able to play in the box and continue to do what he does, I'm cool with it. He said on the radio this morning that he hasn't had to adjust himself yet so he can make up ground to cover someone. For instance...like have to play deeper sp he can get deep in coverage. He still can do it from his original spot.

And don't forget Woodson had terrible torn up knees and still was a player.

LBIggle

i said the end of last season, and the beginning of this season dawks approaching the end of his career and i got blasted out of the water every time.  who cares how long his contract is?  if the man can't play anymore he can't play.  he looks like garbage alot of the time.  i can't count how many times in the last two years he's been punked right before a TD. the stats are meaningless just watch his play.  i dont want to see him go but its fairly obvious that the time is approaching.  unless he makes an adjustment for next year i think he's gone at the end of next season.