Grievance Hearing Thread

Started by Diomedes, November 18, 2005, 09:41:47 AM

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Cerevant

Quote from: Sun_Mo on November 23, 2005, 12:18:01 PM
holy shtein, you live in Souderton?  so do I.
Excellent.  The entire population of Souderton participates on this board  :paranoid
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

I knew one girl from Souderton.  She was ugly.

rjs246

Souderton isn't a real word. Shut up, the lot of you.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

I'll tell you one thing:  Souderton ain't no Lansdale.

MadMarchHare

Anyone but Reid.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Yeah, you probably would have.

SunMo

Quote from: FFatPatt on November 23, 2005, 12:23:38 PM
I'll tell you one thing:  Souderton ain't no Lansdale.

you're right, the Asian population is about 1% of Lansdale.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Cerevant

Back on topic...

With this dragging out as it has (billable hours not withstanding), I'm thinking someone isn't happy with the outcome and is looking to make a deal before the announcement goes public.  Early reports are looking like things are going against the Eagles...my guess is that Eagles got the two game suspension, and they are giving him two options:
1) Released, but pay back the signing bonus
2) Suspended with pay, go away, keep the signing bonus.

Pure speculation, of course...
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

ice grillin you

words cannot express what my anger will be if they outright release him and he get the skins in the playoffs

in fact they are pathetic if they release him at all
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

good cut him and make him go play with sage rosenfels.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 23, 2005, 12:48:11 PM
in fact they are pathetic if they release him at all

...even if the arbitrator rules that he must be allowed to practice with the team?

That's what I thought.  Shut up.

ice grillin you

yep....they already destroyed the season by not cutting him in august when they should have...so if he can wreck the team when they have a chance who cares what he will do now...in fact the more losses the better at this point

they cant get anymore torched by him than they already have been...now its all about revenge

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

JTrotter Fan

TO could help the team to a 4-12 record and a better draft pick.
When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.

MadMarchHare

FWIW

QuoteGLAUBER ENGAGING IN GUESSWORK?



As the football world waits for arbitrator Richard Bloch to rule on T.O.'s pending grievance, it looks like Bob Glauber of Newsday is engaging in a little educated guesswork in the hopes of being able to later claim, if he guesses right, that he was the first guy to break the news as to Owens' fate.



Glauber reports that the Eagles' suspension of Owens is "expected" to be reduced to "one or two games" and that Owens will be immediately reinstated.



Whether it's "one" or "two" games, however, is a huge difference, with a mere $1.725 million hanging in the balance.  Under Owens' contract, he commits a "default" is he is suspended for more than one game for conduct detrimental to the team; if he "defaults" in 2005, he owes $1.725 million.



And if the suspension is reduced by even one game, Owens will be "immediately reinstated," since he already has missed three.  So that really isn't "news," is it?



Glauber also says the the team is prepared to release Owens if he returns to the team and tries to create a distraction.  But this presumes that Bloch will offer an opinion as to whether the team can deactivate him and for the rest of the year.  Technically, that issue isn't yet ripe because the Eagles have yet to formally implement their "we'll pay you to stay away" strategy.  If/when they do, Owens is expected to file another grievance, as recently reported by ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.



As we see it, the whole thing soon could become a high-stakes game of chicken.  Owens likely is taking the position that he wants to rejoin the team because he knows that, if the team is forced to let him in the building, the team might instead release him.  So then, if he clears waivers, he can sign with the Broncos or the Cowboys and get another shot at Super Bowl stardom in 2005, and the big-money contract that might come with it in 2006 (see Dexter Jackson, Desmond Howard, Larry Brown).



The Eagles, then, might very well call T.O.'s bluff, telling him that he can come back and play on the scout team in practice but that he'll never see the field again this year.



Under those circumstances, it's possible that Owens won't go back.  But despite Glauber's report, the last thing the Eagles will do if T.O. becomes a distraction is to release him -- instead, they'll just suspend him again and deal with the grievance.  The worst-case scenario is that they'd have to pay him for the games he misses.  But until the grievance is resolved, the team will be able to keep him at home and, perhaps more importantly, away from the clutches of another team that might view him as the missing piece to its Super Bowl fortunes in 2005.
 
Anyone but Reid.

JTrotter Fan

Just farging release him and forget about him.
When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil.