Predict The Date/Time That Westbrook Receives His Contract Extension.

Started by Rome, August 16, 2005, 04:14:12 PM

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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PhillyPhreak54


Larry

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2005, 06:55:29 PM
I think some people are overreacting to this. It's not the end of the world. The guy is disappointed...Banner said that he agreed with everything Westbrook said in his press conference. They showed a clip of Joey Bankroll saying that he agreed with everything he said and that they will still work at getting a deal done.

I trust the FO and have been in their corner on 99% of the stuff.

However...

They need to pay Westbrook. Leaguewide he is no Edge or Alexander. But in the Philadelphia Eagles offense he is a greater asset than either of those guys would be here. He is a greater asset than LaMont Jordan would be here. The Raiders grossly overpaid for Jordan, but that is the way the NFL works. Some dumbass team ups the market and other teams have to get in line with it because that set the market.

The Eagles NEED to get Westbrook signed. In this instance they should deviate a little bit from their hardline stance. If they lose Westbrook, they will not only lose a lot of talent and skill, but they will lose the respect of several big members of the team. McNabb called Westbrook the ultimate weapon.

Get him signed. If you're offering him an $8M bonus up it to $9M. Get it done.

I agree.

Another name may also be a factor in this:  The 2nd highest paid RB, Portis.  He received $17m in upfront cash.
More Mahe please.

rjs246

My buddies and I have a tradition called Eat All Day Day, that we partake in from time to time where we just cook and eat and booze for about 20 straight hours until we can't stand up. One of the highlights last year was rabbit chili which we made in a Brooklyn apartment. Deliciously gamey. The hipsters were horrified.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

MDS

Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2005, 07:38:26 PM
My buddies and I have a tradition called Eat All Day Day, that we partake in from time to time where we just cook and eat and booze for about 20 straight hours until we can't stand up. One of the highlights last year was rabbit chili which we made in a Brooklyn apartment. Deliciously gamey. The hipsters were horrified.

Don't lie. You don't have any friends.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2005, 07:38:26 PM
My buddies and I have a tradition called Eat All Day Day, that we partake in from time to time where we just cook and eat and booze for about 20 straight hours until we can't stand up. One of the highlights last year was rabbit chili which we made in a Brooklyn apartment. Deliciously gamey. The hipsters were horrified.

Sure that was rabbit? Or was it one of NYC's famous rats that are the size of cats?

Rome

Quote from: Larry on September 08, 2005, 07:37:31 PM

I agree.

Another name may also be a factor in this:  The 2nd highest paid RB, Portis.  He received $17m in upfront cash.

And who paid him that cash?  farging idiot taterskins jackass Danny Snyder.

There's always going to be contracts that are paid out that are absurd, and sadly, players will always look at them and assume that they're better than or equal to the players who signed them.

Westbrook isn't worth $17M up front.  Barry Sanders wouldn't be worth that kind of cash; not at a position where guys fall apart like a cheap suit after 4 years on a routine basis.

Rome

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2005, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2005, 07:38:26 PM
My buddies and I have a tradition called Eat All Day Day, that we partake in from time to time where we just cook and eat and booze for about 20 straight hours until we can't stand up. One of the highlights last year was rabbit chili which we made in a Brooklyn apartment. Deliciously gamey. The hipsters were horrified.

Sure that was rabbit? Or was it one of NYC Boston's famous rats that are the size of cats?

Fixed.

:puke

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Larry on September 08, 2005, 07:37:31 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2005, 06:55:29 PM
I think some people are overreacting to this. It's not the end of the world. The guy is disappointed...Banner said that he agreed with everything Westbrook said in his press conference. They showed a clip of Joey Bankroll saying that he agreed with everything he said and that they will still work at getting a deal done.

I trust the FO and have been in their corner on 99% of the stuff.

However...

They need to pay Westbrook. Leaguewide he is no Edge or Alexander. But in the Philadelphia Eagles offense he is a greater asset than either of those guys would be here. He is a greater asset than LaMont Jordan would be here. The Raiders grossly overpaid for Jordan, but that is the way the NFL works. Some dumbass team ups the market and other teams have to get in line with it because that set the market.

The Eagles NEED to get Westbrook signed. In this instance they should deviate a little bit from their hardline stance. If they lose Westbrook, they will not only lose a lot of talent and skill, but they will lose the respect of several big members of the team. McNabb called Westbrook the ultimate weapon.

Get him signed. If you're offering him an $8M bonus up it to $9M. Get it done.

I agree.

Another name may also be a factor in this:  The 2nd highest paid RB, Portis.  He received $17m in upfront cash.

I don't think Portis is involved. I think the Westbrook sees that Jordan deal as the carrot on the string and he's chasing that.

I don't agree with him going public just like I didn't agree with TO's stance. But they need to pay Westbrook. Come off the pile of cash and give the 2nd most important guy in this offense a deal to keep him here.

I doubt they'd franchise him next year because that pricetag is going to be at least $9M. No way the Birds take a $9M cap hit for him.

Get the deal done.

General_Failure

Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2005, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2005, 07:39:21 PM

Don't lie. You don't have any friends.

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We've basically been gonig through the motions since #50.

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PhillyPhreak54


Larry

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2005, 07:46:13 PM
I don't think Portis is involved. I think the Westbrook sees that Jordan deal as the carrot on the string and he's chasing that.

I don't agree with him going public just like I didn't agree with TO's stance. But they need to pay Westbrook. Come off the pile of cash and give the 2nd most important guy in this offense a deal to keep him here.

I doubt they'd franchise him next year because that pricetag is going to be at least $9M. No way the Birds take a $9M cap hit for him.

Get the deal done.

Portis's money does factor into it.  That signing bonus is more than double Jordan's, and I don't think Westy feels he's only half the player Portis is.  In fact, skill-wise, Portis and Westbrook are close, and in some aspects of the position (receiving, blitz pickup, breaking tackles) Westbrook is superior.

And they'd franchise him:  we can't afford to potentially lose both Owens and Westbrook, and we have the cap flexibility to pull that off without too much maneuvering.
More Mahe please.

MDS

rjs we can be bestest friends if you want...but itll cost you.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: Larry on September 08, 2005, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2005, 07:46:13 PM
I don't think Portis is involved. I think the Westbrook sees that Jordan deal as the carrot on the string and he's chasing that.

I don't agree with him going public just like I didn't agree with TO's stance. But they need to pay Westbrook. Come off the pile of cash and give the 2nd most important guy in this offense a deal to keep him here.

I doubt they'd franchise him next year because that pricetag is going to be at least $9M. No way the Birds take a $9M cap hit for him.

Get the deal done.

Portis's money does factor into it.  That signing bonus is more than double Jordan's, and I don't think Westy feels he's only half the player Portis is.  In fact, skill-wise, Portis and Westbrook are close, and in some aspects of the position (receiving, blitz pickup, breaking tackles) Westbrook is superior.

And they'd franchise him:  we can't afford to potentially lose both Owens and Westbrook, and we have the cap flexibility to pull that off without too much maneuvering.

We'll see when the final numbers are in. I believe a deal will get done between the two sides but it better get done soon before the anger sets in on both sides. I think Westbrook is just frustrated and Banner and the agent are saying the right things, but they need to get it done.

If Portis' deal was a watermark in these negotiations then I think we'd have heard about it. Westbrook said today that the sides were 3-5 million apart. And if he wants Portis money that means the Eagles would be offering upwards of $12M in upfront cash.

Regardless. I still say they need to get a deal done. I've said it before, but they cannot afford to lose Westbrook.