Predict The Date/Time That Westbrook Receives His Contract Extension.

Started by Rome, August 16, 2005, 04:14:12 PM

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Obviously, we can't make final analysis on this situation until...

1.  ...we see how Moats and Gordon look this year.
2.  ...it is clear that this is not just a hiccup in the negotiations and Westbrook is certainly not going to play for the Eagles next year.
3.  ...the money demands from both sides become apparent.

That said, I would prefer if the Eagles could get a deal done with him.  Letting him go could finally be the one that comes back to bite this FO in the arse.

Larry

Not overly surprising.

He's slated to be franchised tagged next year regardless.
More Mahe please.

rjs246

IF Moats is everything that they hope he is, Westbrook becomes expendable. As of right now it's not even close since Moats has been a fumbler and doesn't catch nearly as well (and is only a rookie who has never played a meaningful professional snap), but he is much better at running for tough yardage between the tackles and has similar speed. If he produces and improves in his trouble areas we may have seen the last of Brian Westbrook. And that would kind of suck.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Seabiscuit36

"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

SunMo

of course, here comes the "Bash Brian" crew to defend the Eagles no matter what...


the Eagles are f'n this up, he is the most important offensive weapon outside of Donovan and they need to pay him as such.  it's not about how many carries he gets, he is on a team that only runs the ball roughly 30% of the time, but he catches the ball, makes plays, and scores touchdowns
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Zanshin

Hey, I like Westbrook; and I've always been a big proponent of his.  But if he's looking for a much bigger deal than what Houston just gave Dominick Davis, he's out of line.  The Eagles are good year after year because they make good fiscal decisions-- paying a player well over his market value isn't part of their plan, and it shouldn't be.

From everything I've read, the deal they offered Westbrook topped that Davis deal-- and he's an idiot to not jump all over that.  I still like him, and I still want him around-- but not at the expense of overpaying him.

rjs246

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 08, 2005, 01:06:22 PM
of course, here comes the "Bash Brian" crew to defend the Eagles no matter what...

That's BS. I'm not bashing Brian or defending the Eagles no matter what so stuff it.

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the Eagles are f'n this up, he is the most important offensive weapon outside of Donovan and they need to pay him as such.  it's not about how many carries he gets, he is on a team that only runs the ball roughly 30% of the time, but he catches the ball, makes plays, and scores touchdowns

He is important. He does make plays. He should be paid. But he wants to be paid like an elite back, which he is not. And if there's one thing this team has shown over and over again its that they won't pay a player more than they believe he is worth. Period. If they can't get closer on the money or if Moats steps up as a playmaker as well, that's it. You know it. I know it. Better get used to it.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 08, 2005, 01:06:22 PM
of course, here comes the "Bash Brian" crew to defend the Eagles no matter what...

Um... I don't see too many of them here.

Wingspan

lol...no one is bashing westbrook. he's a great player, and the eagles would most definetely take a step back without him.

that said, if the eagles see his value as one thing, and he sees it very differently. what exactly are we going to do about it other than your typical ex-eagle grave dancing threads that go in the general NFL section. hey, if westbrook gets the money he wants, good for him. hopefully it's as an eagle. but if someone offered you a job in another company for a considerable amount more money, you'd take it right? i would.
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PhillyGirl

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 08, 2005, 01:06:22 PM
of course, here comes the "Bash Brian" crew to defend the Eagles no matter what...

Must you start every post with an ignorant little comment? No one is bashing Westbrook on here. We all agree he should be paid and paid fairly, but are you willing to have them OVERPAY?
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

PhillyPhanInDC

Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 08, 2005, 01:06:22 PM
of course, here comes the "Bash Brian" crew to defend the Eagles no matter what...

the Eagles are f'n this up, he is the most important offensive weapon outside of Donovan and they need to pay him as such. it's not about how many carries he gets, he is on a team that only runs the ball roughly 30% of the time, but he catches the ball, makes plays, and scores touchdowns

I don't see anyone "bashing" Brian.

I agree with your post for the most part. Westbrook is the second most important cog in the offense. He has the skills to get what is required from the coaches done. If Westy had the abilty to run between the tackles and the durabilty to do so, he still wouldn't get 25+ carries in this offense. For what we want a back to do, I can think of maybe two other backs in the league who could pull it off better than the way Westy does it. That would be LT or Domanick Davis. Both elite backs, both with elite paychecks. The difference obviously is that Davis and Tomlison are durable, and can pund the ball with a lead. Westy can't claim to do so. I think they should extend him, give him more money, but he doesn't deserve the elite money. Sadly, another team will probably give him that, but also want him to run it between the tackles, which would grind him and his career into dust.

Without a guy like Westbrook, teams can concentrate on taking the deep ball away from T.O, and settle back in coverage. We either need a threat like him, or a serious power runner. I'd rather have Westy and do things the way we have been for the past few years.
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Zanshin

Man, I'm really just hung up on this Dominick Davis thing.  I mean, that deal should have made this negotiation really easy.  Similar backs, similar roles on the team, similar age...it basically set the market for the deal.  It should have been a slam dunk from there.

Zanshin

PhillyFaninDC...you think Davis is a durable pounder?  What games were you watching?

SunMo

Quote from: rjs246 on September 08, 2005, 01:10:13 PM


That's BS. I'm not bashing Brian or defending the Eagles no matter what so stuff it.



i wasn't speaking about necessarily you, i meant the whole gang that comes out during a time like this:  Howard, Spads, and gang

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He is important. He does make plays. He should be paid. But he wants to be paid like an elite back, which he is not.

but he is an elite back, he's an elite back to this team.  he is Marshall Faulk, Preist Holmes, LT, Shaun Alexander, he is those guys, to the way this team plays.  if this was the Falcons, i say yeah, he isn't an elite back, they run the ball a ton and that isn't his strong suit.  but to this team, he is the man, and they need to pay him that way.

as far as what was offered by the Eagles, no one knows.  just because the Eagles say he recieved an offer similar to Davis doesn't mean it's the truth.
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phattymatty

I would like to thank a lot of you for reminding me that the FO never does anything wrong. 

Sometimes it bothers me that we let great players go because we're cheap, but then I realize that they never make a bad decision.

Thanks again.