Predict The Date/Time That Westbrook Receives His Contract Extension.

[Wingspan]

PhillyFaninDC...you think Davis is a durable pounder?  What games were you watching?

that choice of words has had me laughing for 5 minutes....

whats this thread about again?

[PhillyPhanInDC]

PhillyFaninDC...you think Davis is a durable pounder?  What games were you watching?

He doesn't have the problems Westy does running between the tackles, and he'll be more durable doing it. He's no short yardage back, but compared with Westbrook at 5'8" 209 (Davis is 5'10" 229") he has better tools to run it straight up.

[Zanshin]

Hey, teams had the ability to pry him from the Eagles this year...and that didn't happen.  It's not about whether he's elite for the Eagles; it's about market value.  Can he get more from another team that he would from the Eagles?  And would he have similar success there?  I guess we'll find out.  But James was available this year...Alexander could have been had; the market just isn't the same for RBs these days.

[PhillyGirl]

I would like to thank a lot of you for reminding me that the FO never does anything wrong. 

Sometimes it bothers me that we let great players go because we're cheap, but then I realize that they never make a bad decision.

Thanks again.

Again, your sarcasm blows. Great players let go because the FO Is cheap? Who is a great player let go in THIS FO's history?

[Zanshin]

PhillyFaninDC...you think Davis is a durable pounder?  What games were you watching?

He doesn't have the problems Westy does running between the tackles, and he'll be more durable doing it. He's no short yardage back, but compared with Westbrook at 5'8" 209 (Davis is 5'10" 229") he has better tools to run it straight up.

Davis has been more injury prone than Westbrook over the last few years, for sure.  And I don't think Davis is THAT much more effective running inside.

[PhillyGirl]

as far as what was offered by the Eagles, no one knows.  just because the Eagles say he recieved an offer similar to Davis doesn't mean it's the truth.

His agent had told the press that the deal was a fair one.

[PhillyPhanInDC]

From CBS.Sportsline:

Brian Westbrook cut off contract talks with the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday because the two sides are far apart on a long-term extension. "Me and my agent have told the Eagles' management that we're no longer interested in talking to them as far as the contract situation," Westbrook said. "We don't feel as though we've received a proposal from them that really represents the value that I bring to this team and my market value. I think that in the last two and a half, three years that I've been here, I've brought a lot to this team."

So what now? Does he play? Trying to put pressure? I just hope he stops with the media bullshtein. Look where that went with T.O. Man, I just want these millionares to shut the farg up and play the game.

[rjs246]

I would like to thank a lot of you for reminding me that the FO never does anything wrong. 

Sometimes it bothers me that we let great players go because we're cheap, but then I realize that they never make a bad decision.

Thanks again.

Dude, that's a little bit ridiculous. Who have they let go that went on to do anything significant since Andy Reid took over? I'd say that their ability to assess their personel is pretty remarkable and they've earned a little bit of trust.

No one wants Westbrook to go. No one is saying that the Front Office should let him go. We're just saying that they aren't going to pay him more thatn the value they put on him. They just won't. Everyone bitches and pisses and moans every time they get into a contract dispute with a player, but its the same thing every time. The player thinks they're worth something, the front office doesn't, end of conversation.

Westbrook is awesome, and he makes this offense better and exciting, but he isn't the kind of back that can demand huge money.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Westbrook's a guy I'd overpay a little.  Maybe 10% more than his true value.

I think these are the problems:

1.  Rudi Johnson's contract -- Westbrook sees this, and he thinks he should be a notch above.  Hell, I agree he's a notch above Rudi Johnson.  I also, however, believe the super-cheap Bengals made a very large error and overpaid Rudi quite a bit.  They're keeping a potential playmaker off the field in Chris Perry, and I think we've already seen the best from Johnson.  But, you can't blame Westbrook for wanting more than Rudi.  Blame the Bengals for paying Rudi.

2.  Westbrook in Restricted Free Agency -- The flip side is that the Eagles saw Westbrook gain very little/no interest on the market when a team would have only had to surrender one first-round pick to get him.  Additionally, players like Edgerrin James and Shaun Alexander could probably have been had for a first-rounder, and teams weren't biting.  Why is this?  It's easy.  It's really not as hard to find a serviceable running back as it is to put together a line that can make a back look good.  The Pats acquired Dillon to improve their team for only a 2nd round pick, but they had won Super Bowls without him.  The last team to win a Super Bowl on the legs of a franchise back was Baltimore, and they also had one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL.

I believe that right now, the Eagles need Westbrook more than he needs them.  That said, the Eagles have him on contract through this year, and there will be a lot fewer unknowns after the season ends.  Unfortunately, that means the Eagles will have to pay even more to keep him if Moats proves very little... and if he does look good, Westbrook is probably gone.

So, from where I'm sitting, I do believe the Eagles are making a mistake here.  I think they could pay Brian a good, large, relatively fair amount of money right now, and prevent what is probably a lose-lose down the road.

All that said, I have no idea what the numbers are that he's demanding, and if it's anything like Deuce McAllister money, the kid needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize he'll never be worth as much as Deuce McAllister to any team, especially the Eagles, who usually plan for life without the "greedier" players instead of paying them.

[SunMo]

I would like to thank a lot of you for reminding me that the FO never does anything wrong. 

Sometimes it bothers me that we let great players go because we're cheap, but then I realize that they never make a bad decision.

Thanks again.

Again, your sarcasm blows. Great players let go because the FO Is cheap? Who is a great player let go in THIS FO's history?

Trotter

[Zanshin]

LMAO...you have to be kidding.

[rjs246]

Trotter

Yeah, he was really great in DC. System player.  Terrible example.

[SunMo]

and for the record, i do believe the FO has earned some trust with the likes of Taylor, Vincent, and Hugh...

however, i think they are messing this one up

[SunMo]

Trotter

Yeah, he was really great in DC. System player.  Terrible example.

terrible example?  how?  how did the genius FO replace him?  they didn't.

and just because he blows out a knee, he sucks?  ok.

[ice grillin you]

So what now? Does he play? Trying to put pressure? I just hope he stops with the media bullshtein. Look where that went with T.O. Man, I just want these millionares to shut the farg up and play the game.

what are talking about...did you read his press conference comments...this is night and day btwn TO and westbrook

btw westbrook is not a millionaire