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Started by MURP, August 24, 2005, 01:40:43 PM

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Who do you want to Eagles to sign?

nobody
4 (6.7%)
Eddie George
5 (8.3%)
Lamar Gordon
10 (16.7%)
Dorsey Levens
24 (40%)
Sammy Morris
3 (5%)
Tyrone Wheatley
7 (11.7%)
someone else
7 (11.7%)

Total Members Voted: 57

PhillyFan

A little bit about Marcel Shipp's return from injury this past weekend:

http://www.azcardinals.com/news/news_details.html?iid=3000


mussa

jesus...ive never heard someone contradict themselves so much, munster.  if u want your fantasy back...turn on the playstation and fargin create him for us.  keep us updated on how he does.  otherwise just bite the bullet like the rest of us and deal with whoever is left.  we did fine last year without buck.  this year we have a rookie named moats who has shown great potential in ripping a 40 yrd run.  hell even parry looks like he could do it.  so calm the farg down.   :-D
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PoopyfaceMcGee

William Green is less likely to shake loose now that Lee Suggs is "out indefinitely" with a high ankle sprain.

jeffreyjpa

#198
Here's a little bit of a surprising comparison:

                                      Carries        RYDS        RTDS        YPC
2003 Duce Staley               96              463           5            4.8*
2004 Dorsey Levens            94              410           4            4.4
   
Duce's receptions/receiving yards were much higher in his last year with the Eagles, but he was being counted on to play a much bigger role in the Eagles 2003 passing game than Dorsey was last year, as Westbrook really excelled as a receiver in 2004.

I think Dorsey is the best choice, given his production for the Eagles in two of the last three seasons, and his familiarity with the offense. Oh, and he'll come cheap. Not that Reid will look to run the ball more this year than last, but a three-headed monster of Westbrook/Moats/Levens can be as effective as Westbrook/Staley/Buckhalter.

I hadn't seen any indication of a let-down from Dorsey, and besides--as his agent says "he's in even better shape this year than last year..."    :paranoid

Shipp would be ok too, if he came cheaply. Always liked his game.


* By the way, that was also by far Duce's highest season YPC figure of his career, because the Eagles limited his touches to increase his effectiveness. That's the same approached they used and would use with Levens in 2005.

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Quote from: mussa on August 24, 2005, 09:32:55 PM
jesus...ive never heard someone contradict themselves so much, munster.  if u want your fantasy back...turn on the playstation and fargin create him for us.  keep us updated on how he does.  otherwise just bite the bullet like the rest of us and deal with whoever is left.  we did fine last year without buck.  this year we have a rookie named moats who has shown great potential in ripping a 40 yrd run.  hell even parry looks like he could do it.  so calm the farg down.   :-D

I was plenty calm. I'm not the one who took things way out of hand and got offended. I didn't start the argument, I just defended my opinion. The Levens talk just annoyed me after a while. I don't think we did fine last year with Levens. The reason I am concerned is because I think we lost the Superbowl for two reasons: 1) Unable to stop the Pats offensively, and 2) Unable to establish a running game, which got McNabb beat up and pressured which lead to turnovers. Brian is elusive, but the Pats and their great coaching and scheming took Brian out of the game. Brian had 44 yards rushing on 15 attempts and one of his runs was like 22 yards. That means he had 22 yards on 14 carries. Not good at all. If we expect to win a Superbowl then I think we need someone better than Levens in there, that did absolutely nothing in the Superbowl, that's all. Can we get to the Superbowl with Levens? Absolutely. If we face the Pats again, wouldn't you prefer to come more prepared? I would. I'm not worried about him during the season, I'm just worried about the Superbowl. I'd like to have a stronger running game next time around so it just can't be taken out of our game so easily. Levens can play well against average defensive teams, but when you face top-notch defensive teams like the Pats, you need to roll in stacked. I just don't think Levens is that man. If you do then more power to you. I don't.
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Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

rjs246

It's funny how you require a novel in each post to defend your position and the rest of us require a single sentence to send you into a typing frenzy. Doesn't really give off the impression of 'calm.'
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

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A typing frenzy? I think you mean well explained and thought out. I prefer not to give one liners, because whether you agree with my opinions or not, I like to explain myself and back myself up. If one liners work for you then knock yourself out. 90% of your posts are sarcastic humor anyway. Have you even posted why you would want Levens in this offense? I've been pretty calm in not even asking you to back up your side of the argument. I'm content in my opinions.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PoopyfaceMcGee

You don't explain yourself as much as you use circular logic and spout obviously incorrect opinions.

rjs246

I stated that he would fit into this offense perfectly because he has all the tools we require. And in fact has many that Buck did not possess (blocking, catching, showing up on time to meetings). I don't care if he's on this team or someone else but your assertion that he sucks is completely inaccurate. See, that wasn't so hard.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

WEST is GOD

Quote from: FFatPatt on August 24, 2005, 10:11:59 PM
You don't explain yourself as much as you use circular logic and spout obviously incorrect opinions.

A little contradictory.

How's that for a one-liner?
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

WEST is GOD

Quote from: rjs246 on August 24, 2005, 10:12:40 PM
I stated that he would fit into this offense perfectly because he has all the tools we require. And in fact has many that Buck did not possess (blocking, catching, showing up on time to meetings). I don't care if he's on this team or someone else but your assertion that he sucks is completely inaccurate. See, that wasn't so hard.

I'm glad you didn't strain yourself. The last thing I wanted was to provoke a typing frenzy.

As for sucking, I already said I was a little too harsh. He doesn't suck(at least in this system), but I think we can do better. We'll find out of the Eagles agree soon enough.
THIS SEASON IS OVER AND ANDY'S WORLD IS GRIDL

Offseason needs: 2 DEs, 1 DT, 1 OL, 2 LBs, 1 RB, 2 WRs, 1 TE, 1 KR.

PoopyfaceMcGee


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Quote from: Monster on August 24, 2005, 10:03:12 PM
blah blah blah..........I don't think we did fine last year with Levens. The reason I am concerned is because I think we lost the Superbowl for two reasons: 1) Unable to stop the Pats offensively, and 2) Unable to establish a running game, which got McNabb beat up and pressured which lead to turnovers....... blah blah blah.

Take a step back and look at the stuff you're saying man.  Seriously, pretend that you are someone other than you and read this stuff and then see if you can figure out what's wrong with it. 

You're flip flopping more than John Kerry.  You've gone from wanting a back up RB who could put up 800 yds and 9 td's to wanting 600 yds and 6 tds.  Then you wanted a back up RB who was young and fast but Moats isn't the answer because he's a rookie.  Now, you've just gone from wanting a back up RB to calling out the starter for being ineffective.  Sure, Westy did not have the best game against the Pats.  Then again, it's the Pats and they tend to give offenses a tough time, especially with their running game. 

Last year the Pats held Bettis to 64 yards (3.8 ypc) in the playoffs.  They also held Edge to 39 yards (2.8 ypc). 

Let's make this really simple.  Who do you want the Eagles to get?  Throw a name out there.  Any name.  Just name someone who you think is going to give the Eagles whatever it is you think that Westy, Levens and Moats can't.