like sands thru an hourglass so are the days of TO's life

Started by ice grillin you, August 10, 2005, 03:02:23 PM

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phattymatty

Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 11, 2005, 03:25:31 PM
I dont' think they will stick with them, even WHEN TO comes back. McMullen is proving to be worthless. How many chances can this guy get to show he can catch the ball? They will have to get another vet WR in here, even with TO, IMO.

And what kind of receiver do you propose they pick up that will have any impact at all?

PhillyGirl

Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2005, 03:35:31 PM
No. It's either this or we figure out why I'm a poker blogger.

for the same reason as this whole thread

Money.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Rome

T...............O...............

T.O. T.O. T.O..............

T.O........ T.O..............


(Everybody sing!)

:deion

SD_Eagle5

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
You're giving 9-1 odds that TO will play in Week 1?  I'll sign up for that with $10

he will NOT play in week one or any other week

boryla?  :paranoid

General_Failure

Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 11, 2005, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2005, 03:35:31 PM
No. It's either this or we figure out why I'm a poker blogger.

for the same reason as this whole thread

Money.

What's funny is with the deal I got I really can't afford to feed my family.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Don Ho

"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

ice grillin you

why is it so hard to believe hes gone

andy cannot take this guy back and hold any credibility with anyone...not to mention the god complex inside him wants so badly to succeed without TO

and its not even like andy can have a meeting with TO at this point to get some guarantees that he wont act up again because because anything TO were to say could not be trusted

and can you imagine the embarrassment for andy were he to bring him back and TO do this again
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MURP

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2005, 03:43:56 PM
why is it so hard to believe hes gone


lol, why are you so obsessed with it?  As of right now, TO is still on the Eagles roster.  Until Andy Reid announces the Eagles have cut/traded/whatever TO your point has no validity. 

Father Demon

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
You're giving 9-1 odds that TO will play in Week 1?  I'll sign up for that with $10

he will NOT play in week one or any other week

And I'm saying he will.  $10.  And give me that 9-1 you so boldly put out there.......
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

DH


Don Ho

"Well where does Jack Lord live, or Don Ho?  That's got to be a nice neighborhood"  Jack Singer(Nicholas Cage) in Honeymoon in Vegas.

Beermonkey

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2005, 03:43:56 PM
why is it so hard to believe hes gone

andy cannot take this guy back and hold any credibility with anyone...not to mention the god complex inside him wants so badly to succeed without TO

and its not even like andy can have a meeting with TO at this point to get some guarantees that he wont act up again because because anything TO were to say could not be trusted

and can you imagine the embarrassment for andy were he to bring him back and TO do this again

You need to let your Reid-hatred go, as it sometimes clouds some good points you make.

I'll think he'll be back but TO will seal his fate after not too long & be suspended.

Rome

For rjs...

QuoteUpdated: Aug. 11, 2005, 3:16 PM ET
Owens needs an audience for his show

By Ray Ratto

Not even a few questions can stop his workout

This is so Terrell Owens, a slight modification on the central theme, "I Can Wait You Out Because You Need Me So Much." I mean, the push-ups and shooting hoops in front of the house were a nice touch, but then again, nobody who pays any attention to the subject has ever accused Owens of being tactically inept. He gets what he wants before you get what you want, and the rest is just dinner theater.

We won't be seeing TO in an Eagles uniform any time soon. Or will we?
He did this in San Francisco, where his complaints were about the quality and quantity of his surroundings. He did this in Baltimore, at least for the nanosecond he stayed there. And now, with his Super Bowl performance at his back and Todd Pinkston up on blocks, he is doing it with a flourish in Philadelphia.

Frankly, though, we worry that he might be peaking too early. He is playing the full theatrics card in training camp rather than during the season; in San Francisco his dissatisfaction typically manifested itself during games (short-arming balls and running halfhearted routes) and after them (when he either refused to speak to the media or spoke with great élan about how the team was preventing him from achieving his true greatness).

But this ... this is way too early in the process for the walkout and driveway show. Because, as a strictly tactical matter, you have to have something in reserve for the next outrage committed against you, and at this point, he is down to either playing with his pants down or setting fire to the equipment room.

Now we're not even involving ourselves in the should-he-get-more-money-or-honor-his-contract argument. We're not even touching the Eagles-need-him-or-they-finish-8-8 debate, let alone the Joe-Banner-would-rather-lose-without-him-than-give-in tavern fight.

This is strictly about the quality of Owens' protest, and unless he has choreographed this with a reality TV producer, he might run out of the good stuff before the season even starts.

You see, Owens is an actor, and actors need a stage and a script. He cannot help himself; this is pathological as well as strategic. His ability to get his new deal is largely dependent not upon his talent but upon his ability to irritate the people with the money so much that they will pay him to shut up.

He believes it, and frankly, so do the Eagles. The question on the table, though, is how much the Eagles are willing to be irritated. And for that, Owens needs to be front and center -- because he craves it and because without it, he loses a large part of his leverage.

To be front and center, then, he needs to ratchet up his look-at-me incrementally rather than all at once, and it's incredibly difficult work. Dennis Rodman did it well for a fairly long time (the tattoos, the hair, Michael Jordan at his back, etc.), but once he hit the far edge of Weirdball City, his decline came swiftly and surely.

So it is with Owens, if he isn't careful. He is driving the car here, and he has to keep brushing the guardrail without breaking the car or hurtling into a gully. Because there is a third rail out there somewhere, at which point he loses his allies in the public and becomes just a guy who lost his mind and blew $49 million to become irrelevant (see Rodman in San Antonio, see Rodman with the Lakers).

This is something his agent, Drew (Why, Yes, It Is All About Me, Now That You Ask) Rosenhaus, cannot help Owens with, for Owens listens to his own inner muse when it comes to cranking the boss. Owens has a sense of his own gift here, and he is betting that, as a virtuoso of the irritatory arts, he can make the Eagles pull off their own heads even as they offer him a new deal.

And the Eagles so far are giving every indication that their heads are bolted on with Frankensteinian efficiency.

Which is where we are now -- Owens needing to come up with a new shtick, slightly better than the last one, and soon, because in his world, a week without an ostentatious act is a week that can never be regained. In fact, he might need to return to camp just because that's where the audience is.

I mean, nobody's going to watch him mulching the front lawn and feel the urge for worker solidarity, if you know what we mean, and we think you do.

Ray Ratto of the San Francisco Chronicle is a regular contributor to ESPN.com.

:-D

ice grillin you

He took Trot back, didnt he?

apples and oranges

i dont even want to start listing the differences between the two situations
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

DH

Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2005, 03:54:01 PM
He took Trot back, didnt he?

apples and oranges

i dont even want to start listing the differences between the two situations

you dont need to - I know them all.

my point is trot also had a verbal altercation with AR, and when it came down to football and winning ballgames, both men set aside their differences and got down to business.

i wouldnt call it apples and oranges...macintoshes vs. granny smiths are more like it.