Giambi to Grand Jury, "Yes, I injected steriods."

[hunt]

maybe clemens    did they play together in toronto???
i'm just trying to think of big name players along the lines of mcgwire.


anyway, i'm sure there's some truth in what canseco is saying...but you don't really know what to believe since he's only trying to sell his book.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Canseco's career:

1985 - 1992 : Oakland
1992 - 1994 : Texas
1995 - 1996 : Boston
1997 : Oakland
1998 : Toronto
1999 - 2000 : Tampa Bay
2000 : New York Yankees
2001 : Chicago White Sox

It seems as if the rumors are swirling around his early Oakland and Texas days...

A few possibilities:

Ivan Rodriguez
Juan Gonzalez
Julio Franco
Ruben Sierra
Dave Henderson
Ricky Henderson
Mo Vaughn
John Valentin

[hunt]

clemens was with toronto in 1998...he's my guess. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm going with Ricky Henderson as my guess. I'd bet on it.

[hunt]

huh...i somehow overlooked ricky on your list.  he was definitely on the juice.
and i guess espn radio could argue that he's as big a name as mcgwire.  you might be right.
i'm sure the canseco book publicity team will let us know soon.

[MURP]

Canseco is a scumbag.  He may be telling the truth or he can be lying out of his ass.  Frankly I cant say I trust anything he says.

[Wingspan]

i think it was Ozzie Canseco

[QB Eagles]

Barry Bonds' pissed-off ex-girlfriend of 9 years (1994-2003, including some time he was married) Kimberly Bell was on Geraldo's show tonight, talking about how Bonds has knowingly used steroids since at least 2000. Like everyone else it seems, she's got a book coming out. She's got notes and pictures to prove her relationship to Bonds, but no physical evidence to prove the steroid use, at least from what I could tell (I caught the middle of the interview while flipping channels).

Bonds' lawyer says there was indeed a relationship, but she failed to extort money from Bonds last year, and now she's getting what she wants through publishing this false book. Denies the steroid allegations.

What a circus.

[PhillyGirl]

Barry Bonds' pissed-off ex-girlfriend of 9 years (1994-2003, including some time he was married) Kimberly Bell was on Geraldo's show tonight, talking about how Bonds has knowingly used steroids since at least 2000. Like everyone else it seems, she's got a book coming out. She's got notes and pictures to prove her relationship to Bonds, but no physical evidence to prove the steroid use, at least from what I could tell (I caught the middle of the interview while flipping channels).

Bonds' lawyer says there was indeed a relationship, but she failed to extort money from Bonds last year, and now she's getting what she wants through publishing this false book. Denies the steroid allegations.

What a circus.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3394142

[shorebird]

Canseco is a scumbag. He may be telling the truth or he can be lying out of his ass. Frankly I cant say I trust anything he says.

What a piece of shtein. He's pissed that he'll never make the Hall of Fame and still craves the limelight.

This is just terrible for baseball. It's worse than the strike. The players will still play but wether Canseco's allegations are true or not,  Baseball has been struck a blow that it will be years putting behind it. And it's just getting started. I guess it had to happen sometime or another. You reap what you sew. The bad thing is history will view the past 20 years of baseball as an era were records were achieved with the aid of a illegal drug. It's gonna hurt guys like Cal Ripken, and other great players who didn't use.

I don't know about you guys, but I think this is saaad, sad, sad. This is worse than the Pete Rose gambling scandal that went on for years. It's worse than the Black Sox thing. Whats really bad about it is that no one will ever know the real truth unless more players admit thier use, and I don't think most of them are the Cansenco type of rats.

[shorebird]

I'll say this also, as much as the players are at fault for using, I blame baseballs owners also. Baseball hasn't had a real commishioner since Fay Vincent. Basically for the last ten years, it's been a slipshod orginization without adequate steroid testing. With no one to stand up to the players union, you have no cap and teams like the Yankees spending Billions for players while other teams like Monteal fold and end up owned by the league. You also had no steroid testing for the last twenty years before this last, while football has had it all along.  Say what you want about Tagliabue, he runs a tight ship.

P.S. I say Baseball had no steroid testing because guys were using and getting away with it even after testing was started.

[QB Eagles]

Testing may never be able to keep up with the very newest drugs. I think chemical enhancement will be a part of most sports indefinitely.

[shorebird]

Heard on ESPN radio today that Cansenco even blast Cal Ripken in his new book. Geez, talk about bitter. I'm gonna' look for the quote, but basically Cansenco blast Ripken for being a media darling, and always saying the right thing to the press.

What a douchbag. Cansenco had it all and let it get away. He didn't do what was necessary to have a great career like he could have. He didn't put in the time nor did he have the work ethic to make the most of his God given' ability, and then he tried to use steroids to make up for his laziness.

Being an Oriole fan, that piece of shtein has definatly crossed the line trying to punk Cal.

[shorebird]

found it

"I can just throw up watching the total phonies go to work, guys like Cal Ripken or Alex Rodriguez; everything out of their mouths sounds like it was tested by some kind of focus group beforehand," Canseco writes of the two shortstops

Total phoney, eh? The man's work ethic was legendary is and still taught to Oriole minor leaguers through the entire orginization. He was the first player to play shortstop and hit for power and avg. I could fill this whole page with records he holds that prove he definatly ain't no phoney.

"He even got a pass on the way he dealt with the other players. He used to stay at a separate hotel from the rest of the team, and take a separate car from the team bus. The official explanation was that it was for security reasons, but we minority players couldn't help feeling otherwise."

He's even bringing race into it, that jerkoff. It's been well publisized about Ripken during his run at Lou Gehrigs record, staying in different hotels and riding in seperate vehicles to the park. That was to try and keep his local a secret from the media, which never worked anyway, so the media crush was diverted from the other players. It was a crush too. The guy couldn't even walk from the hotel door to his ride without having ten microphones shoved in his face. And he handled it all very well, I might add.

Understandably though, there were players on his team who didn't think too much of it. But most of them would look at the way he worked and prepared for the game and judge him on that. He was respected greatly by most everyone in the Orioles orginization.

But.........why would you have to be a minority player to be upset at the treatment Cal was recieving?? Were does race fit into this whole situation?? Cal worked his ass off to be the player he was, and to be dissed by a drug using waste of a career player like Cansenco makes me sick.

[General_Failure]

Isn't half of baseball made up of guys from South America, Latin America, and Cuba? How the farg is he a minority?