Giambi to Grand Jury, "Yes, I injected steriods."

[hunt]

The real problem here is Bud Selig and the other owners.  Roids should be made illegal with a first time offense of a permanent ban from baseball, no second chances... and every player should be tested at random multiple times a season.   

the players' union has too much power in baseball...i think that's another major problem.
i think something horrific would have to happen before they'd agree to a comprehensive drug/steriod testing program.

[PhillyGirl]

Its that whole thing again....if LT can go into the NFL Hall of Fame while being a crackhead/bad influence on children, why cant Pete Rose? Gooden and Strawberry and guys like that were able to play again, but Rose gets banned forever for betting.

Both are bad, but drugs are worse, IMO. Drugs should = lifetime ban from the sport you take. Nothing is worse to a child who worships a player than to have that player be a druggie.

[Wingspan]

oh please. There isn't that much of a difference and Thome has never used. I can't even believe this is discussed on here. When a kid comes out of college football at age 22, 19, 20, whatever around that age, they will always get bigger in a professional ballclub's weight training program. Thome is about as much of a steriod user as I am tall. He's just a big dude, period.

how can you not acknowledge that there is a difference between a 19 year old...and a 22 year old. because someone pointed out to you that you were wrong?

there is a physiological difference from 19 to 22 years old. the body is not fully developed yet at 19. but is close to a physical peak at 22-23.  if thome had been 19, like you said he was, in those photos, then seeing him then and now is not that big of a difference. but those photos from 22 to now, the difference is a little more than expected normally. but seeing the differnce in size between his rookie year and now, its not that uncommon to come to that conclusion. bonds, giambi, sosa, maguire, canseco were all scrawy little rookies that ballooned up, and everyone and there mothers accuses them of using steriods...so, as long as everyone is quick to draw conclusions on them, including you, then thome should not be excluded from being looked at. and you know what, there is always a chance that he did use. i am not saying he did. but really, with the way baseball all but handed the needles and making agents out at spring training, would it really surprise anyone?

i never said thome used steriods or not. and frankly i dont give a shtein if he did. thats not my point. in fact that is the second time i said that. and i shall say it again, i never said thome used steriods or not. and frankly i dont give a shtein if he did.

so, then thome is just a fatass. fair enough...and before you jump down my throat with that, that is a word you seem to take lightly when you feel like bashing someone who may or may not be overweight.

[PhillyGirl]

How am I wrong? I don't care, I didn't even LOOK to see how old he was in those pictures, I took a guess that he was somewhere around 18-23....which is prior to him being really involved in big league weight training programs. The rest of your post is a whole lot of nonsense, even suggesting that Thome takes roids makes it nonsense. Not because he is a Phillie, because he's who he is. I'd have said the same thing when he was an Indian.

And why exactly would he be a fatass? Whoever said that?

[Wingspan]

my post is not nonsense. what is so non-sensicle with anything that i said? where am i going away from any kind of reality that surrounds major league baseball.

unless you are a close personal friend of thome's and have spent a lot of time with him, you just have no way of really knowing.

[General_Failure]

You guys know you're all completely insane, right?

[Wingspan]

not completly...give me another month and i am right there.

[Zanshin]

not completly...give me another month and i am right there.

It's good to have a goal.

[JTrotterFan]

"The Waterboy's a cheata!"

[joneszilla]

Hell, If i could shoot some steroids and get a $120M contract....pass the needle, ointment, whatever.    



Seriously though, I wonder if anyone will ever implicate Bonds.  You know the feds want him bad.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It couldn't be more obvious that Bonds used/uses 'roids.  It'll come out eventually.

[Mad-Lad]

Im not sure whether any of the guys on Houston's roster use (or have used) steroids but I'm sure as not going to blindly defend them.  Sure, Bagwell and Berkman are class acts but without REAL testing we're never going to know.  If they use them, that would be a big disappointment.

Everyone's fair game now.

Sosa..  I hope you get exposed for the fraud you are.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I don't think Bagwell uses 'em.  He would hit about 80 homers a year if he did.

[hunt]

It couldn't be more obvious that Bonds used/uses 'roids.  It'll come out eventually.

he took them but he didn't know they were steriods.

mmmm'kay. 

[PhillyGirl]

Didn't see this posted?