A New Politics Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

Well the Red Hatters now are going into conspiracy/cover-up mode. The FBI came out and said zero terror and of course it's met with "oh yeah like the FBI is telling the truth".

It has to be exhausting to be on the level of everything is a conspiracy.

And Irsay's comments? Of course they wouldn't be upset. They agree with him. Because they too feel persecuted by (insert whatever people/agency/organization here).

[Diomedes]

Mitt Romney might want to increase his budget for personal/family security after admitting that he'd vote for a Democrat before any of the Republicans running for President.

[phattymatty]

Meh it fits into their make believe story that the Democrats are all for wealthy elites.  As they vote for a guy who shteins in a golden toilet.

[Diomedes]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-12-13-2023-10a0370b7b320d73def6b6a2a137f16a

I keep coming back to ratios...

Seems inevitable that eventually it will be at least 20:1 Palestinians dead:Israelis dead

And this article makes me think about how willing Israel is to just bomb a thousand at the chance of taking out ten, but when ten of their own soldiers are lost actually fighting militants instead of bombing civilians, it makes the news

It would seem to me that if you want to disgorge terrorists from Gaza, you have to go building to building, tunnel to tunell, block by block, and sacrifice a great deal of blood because bombing doesn't just not kill them all, it creates still more by it's utterly dishonorable origin.  Not much moral difference between targeting civilians and killing so broadly that it's impossible not to target them en masse.

Maybe if you go fight them toe to toe, and you don't kill thousands indiscriminately, you have a chance to actually kill them all, or at least to kill them fast enough, to eliminate their influence.  If that's the goal Israel needs a tougher stomach for suffering their own military losses.

[MDS]

trash takes itself out

[Diomedes]

Would that it did.

[Diomedes]

By their own admission, IDF just shot three shirtless, white-flag waiving Israeli hostages to death.

And we're supposed to believe this war is being conducted in good faith, as carefully as possible, etc.

If they can't not shoot unarmed, white flag waiving Israeli hostages...how do you think they're treating Palestinian civilians?

I mean, these are rhetorical questions.

The world should call this war off.  Israel has taken far more than an eye for an eye. 

[Rome]

War is a savage and nasty business.  Hamas unleashed this and while I agree that Israel appears to be engaging in its own savagery, I still don't blame them. 

Every country that surrounds them wants Jews incinerated.  They want the country wiped off the map and a new non-Jewish state established in its stead.  That's not going to happen. 

If Muslims really gave a shtein about other Muslims, they would stop arming terrorists like Hamas and leave Israelis to live in peace with a separate Palestinian state.  But they don't.  Just look at that monster Assad in Syria for confirmation of that.  He's slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Syrian Muslims but where's the worldwide moral outrage over those atrocities?  Or how about African Muslims murdering, maiming and raping other African Muslims just because they subscribe to a slightly different fairy tale?

And by the way, we can't abandon Israel any more than we can abandon Ukraine.  The second we abandon Israel every one of our enemies would use that as a rallying cry to go after other Democratic allies.  I'm not sure how many times we have to learn that lesson, but appeasement never works; it only emboldens the bullies. 

[General_Failure]

Yes Danny from grandma's neighborhood impales babies on spikes, but he always lets us park in his driveway. We can't abandon him to the other baby impalers.

[MDS]

we should def give the nazi's a win

let hitler have poland

-1933 dio

[Diomedes]

Let's not forget that the first terrorists in this region were the Zionists--they were not yet Israelis, and I won't call them Jews even though of course they were, beccause not all Jews were violent extremists, just like not all Pelestinians are violent extremists.--not the Palestininans.

The white folks who let Germany slaughter the Jews felt badly about it, and they wanted a strong base near the oil, so they forced a Jewish state on the Palestinians, murdering and all but enslaving them, which is how it's gone since then.  No Israeli government has seriously sought peace, in stead taking more land whenever they can, tigheting the noose, allowing setters to steal land and kill non combatants.

Whereas Rome doesn't "blame" Israel for their barbarity, I do blame Hamas for slaugherting innocent people.  That's never honorable.  But I understand.  They have no other option, unless you think people of any kind are given to just commit mass suicide.  That's kinda their only option.

Meanwhile, Israel is awash in sugar daddy money and partying at rock concerts while Gazans wither in squalor.

What Israel is doing is morally equivalent to what Hamas is doing.

[MDS]

farg israel to the ends of the earth, but they are taking out genocidal terrorist scum

hamas wants to massacre jews for the sake of massacring jews

we arent operating on the same wave length here

[Diomedes]

So by your "logic" a couple nukes would be justified? 

What they are about right now appear to just be a slower version of killing everyone

[Munson]

Most people are pretty okay with getting rid of Hamas/killing them. They're just not okay with the way in which they're doing it, which is killing a lot of innoncents and, seemingly, doing some pretty brutal and farged up things if reports are to be believed.

[MDS]

dont kill the innocent nazis! theres so many innocent people in germany

farging tik tok libs