Phillies

[MDS]

outside of maybe holding someone back to set up a fun pitching matchup....no. i think la/wsh did that this year to get scherzer/kershaw but i may be wrong.

anyway if harper stays: him, turner, albies, freeman and acuna are all better than anyone the phillies could even think to have. go eagles.

[ice grillin you]

lol I was just about to ask you how you felt about the braves lapping the phils

[MDS]

if they cant get anything out this FA class its going to be a really, really long time before theyre competitive

the braves dont have enough money to keep all these guys together but none of them can hit free agency until like 2025

[ice grillin you]

we can argue all day about the Santana signing and how Rhys could there but why is nick Williams not getting at bats over altherr

[MDS]

because williams sucks

altherr i think is a ML player in some capacity...likely a 4th OF or platoon option. williams is a AAAA player.

[ice grillin you]

altherr is garbage with no upside...nick might suck but needs at minimum a full season of PA....theres literally no reason he should not be playing....just trade him if he sucks

[MDS]

that was the plan...then they went out and signed santana to try to let everyone in baseball know they were serious. or something. i dont know.

neither williams or altherr will be an everyday player for them in 2019 so who cares really

[ice grillin you]

i thought 2020 might be the contending year and now 2020 might be a reboot year

[MDS]

if they dont sign 2 hitters and a pitcher this winter the reboot year is 2019

[ice grillin you]

i think the young guys need another season of PA and IP before a reboot but yeah i could easily see it next year

[MDS]

the only "young guy" is kingery and maybe alfaro

hernandez and herrera are well established. hoskins' timing is off now but hes pretty damn good.

even if jp magically turns out to be decent or williams does, its still not going to be enough to match atlanta without machado

[ice grillin you]

how is alfaro young but not jp

you know how long it takes to be good in the majors for most players

jp
nick dub
alfaro
kingery
rhys
pivetta
vince
lively
quinntastic

run all these motherfargers out the on the regular for the next two years and see what happens....of course i know this is not possible with the OF cause of santana

[MDS]

alfaro is a catcher and those are impossible to find...they require more patience. plus he has 2 legit tools (power, arm). jp has ZERO tools and is playing a position where you can find talent.

im pretty much just writing him off as a lost cause. kingery is the guy you run out for 600 PAs no matter how good/bad.

[ice grillin you]

thats just preposterous....i think they all stink but saying they should run out alfaro and kingery but not jp is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard

[MDS]

no i was talking about guys i actually think they can possibly rely on

obviously this year they should have kingery 3b - jp ss - alfaro c - everyday. franco can go play in japan.

but i dont really get any sense jp is good and would not exhibit a massive amount of patience with him.