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Bandwagon Central => Other Sports => Topic started by: MDS on March 29, 2018, 04:09:31 PM
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75 wins
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80
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74
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nick williams started today because his swing path met that of the way way teheran throws
anyway he struck out
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80, got your back Jay!
shtein, this game is dull. Atlanta opening day, lame ass crowd, two bottom teams, guess that isn't going to ignite much excitement.
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nick williams started today because his swing path met that of the way way teheran throws
anyway he struck out
No chance you’re going to mock your fellow stat geek this year. Own it, kid.
PS: Nola is dealing.
PPS: 83 53 wins. Book it.
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and a wonderful start to 2018 for the bullpen.
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Nola threw 68 pitches and got yanked. Of course the POS who replaced him promptly serves up a seismic shot to Freddie Freeman.
This is gonna be a long year.
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When your parents name you Hoby, you’re coming into the world with low expectations.
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Galvis just tied it up in the bottom of the ninth in San Diego with a clutch two out single. Because you all care.
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and he kills the rally after being thrown out stealing second.
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Not sure if there’s any point trying to change rules to speed up the game when managers are using 12 pitchers in a totally normal opening day game between non-playoff teams.
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Good thing Williams and Altherr switched positions on that gopher ball.
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Bullpen can kiss my ass
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Maybe the aim is to pitch everyone and extend the game as long as possible to sell more hot dogs and shtein?
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Chip farging Kapler.
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kaplar with a hof over managing performance
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60 wins
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anytime you can take your best pitcher out with 60 pitches and a 5 run lead in the 6th inning, its something you have to do
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I’m on the verge of overreacting. Getting done work early to get drunk and watch the Phillies on opening day is usually a good idea.
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anytime you can take your best pitcher out with 60 pitches and a 5 run lead in the 6th inning, its something you have to do
Not sure if sarcasm. If not kill yourself with a rusty screwdriver.
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its a good thing pedro florimon hit instead of kingery
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So the train wreck happens before it even left the station.
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Kevin Stocker doing a bad version of LA’s ump bashing on the radio. Gonna be a much rougher season audio-wise.
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Chip farging Kapler.
:-D :-D
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Santana looks like a fat piece of shtein walrus at Sea World who’s eaten too much free fish.
Nice 0-5 collar, fatso.
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remember when the eagles won the super bowl and embiid's eye wasnt out of its socket
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Well, Phillies baseball is definitely back.
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"It's only the first game" - T Mac
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lol man how ive missed the phillies
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"It's only the first game" - T Mac
We have 161 more of these to look forward to before they fire Kapler.
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At least the chick reporter from the Braves is hot. Nice cans too.
Also - fire this farg now. Don’t wait. Just fire him now. farg him and his 21st Century Cyberdine Systems stat bullshtein. Baseball is about more than stats. It’s about instincts and situational awareness. It’s also about putting your players in the right spot to beat the other team. He clearly doesn’t understand that.
Fire him now. Don’t bother waiting for July or next year. Just do it now.
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lol man how ive missed the phillies
Ha. Agreed. Way too much winning with the Eagles and Sixers.
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At least the chick reporter from the Braves is hot. Nice cans too.
Also - fire this farg now. Don’t wait. Just fire him now. farg him and his 21st Centiry stat bullshtein. Baseball is about more than stats. It’s about instincts and situational awareness. It’s also about putting your players in the right spot to beat the other team. He clearly doesn’t understand that.
Fire him now. Don’t bother waiting for July or next year. Just do it now.
this is an organizational philosophy though kaplar is taking it to the most ridiculous possible degree
taking out nola was an inexcusable move but 2 of your best relief pitchers couldnt get anyone out. your offense shut down after the 6th. lets all just calm down and remember the real focus is joel embiid's face.
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Actually you’re right. Joe Torre couldn’t manage a team to a Series win that doesn’t have the horses.
But he wouldn’t in his worst farging day do what this clown did tonight.
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I don't think that was 21st century stat-informed management we saw out there today. That was just Gabe disappearing up his own ass. Kaplrmetrics.
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Did you see Nick Williams standing in the outfield with a cheat sheet card trying to figure out where to stand?
Holy shtein. I don’t need more than one game to spot a fraud and that’s what this guy is.
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Chip farging Kapler.
lol
Exactly
Sabremetric bullshtein at its finest. Barkann and the post game crew are destroying Kapler
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OK se we had 'The Process" and Big Balls Doug across the street. WTF do we call this sloppy mess?
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AIDS
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Kaplers response to taking Nola out was “I have confidence in those guys”. When pressed he retreated back to the same response. Chip 2.0
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OK se we had 'The Process" and Big Balls Doug across the street. WTF do we call this sloppy mess?
Clusterfarg.
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his reasoning made sense if it was the 7th or 8th inning and you werent bringing in holby farging milner....the numbers dont lie (nola's ops going up each time he went through the order, his career stats vs. freddie) but its a 5-0 game with your best pitcher dealing. i havent the slightest clue whyd youd even be looking at matchup data.
again, over managing and thinking way way too much about shtein. the data really helps in october when its the 5th inning and 4-3...but its april. if he keeps doing this he's going to get booed back to the tanning salon.
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Over managing because of the stupid goddamn “analytics”
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hey j throw me 55 for mlbtv...use your calculator
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:paranoid
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lol
ok gotcha - I will send it this weeeknd
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his reasoning made sense if it was the 7th or 8th inning and you werent bringing in holby farging milner....the numbers dont lie (nola's ops going up each time he went through the order, his career stats vs. freddie) but its a 5-0 game with your best pitcher dealing. i havent the slightest clue whyd youd even be looking at matchup data.
again, over managing and thinking way way too much about shtein. the data really helps in october when its the 5th inning and 4-3...but its april. if he keeps doing this he's going to get booed back to the tanning salon.
Seems like he's going to do everything by the data. Come hell or high water.
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Narcissistic new age pretty boy body builder bitches with 1 year’s worth of managerial experience in the low minors. That’s who the Phillies select with literally dozens of more qualified candidates available.
And I’m not a Herrera fanboy but not starting him was a bush league move.
This is a disaster waiting to happen.
Save your money, Jay.
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this is going to be an enjoyable thread to follow this year.
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Seems like he's going to do everything by the data. Come hell or high water.
baseball is basically just a game of percentages but there is still a pretty large human element to it and if he doesnt see it, he'll be gone quicker than chip
shteins not that hard. dont take out your best pitcher when hes dealing. dont sit your best hitter for a quad a player, then hit that quad a player 3rd. not challenging stuff.
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Seems like he's going to do everything by the data. Come hell or high water.
baseball is basically just a game of percentages but there is still a pretty large human element to it and if he doesnt see it, he'll be gone quicker than chip
shteins not that hard. dont take out your best pitcher when hes dealing. dont sit your best hitter for a quad a player, then hit that quad a player 3rd. not challenging stuff.
Fully agreed. Kapler just seems to have that "smartest man in the room" mentality. And at least Chip has some track record when he was hired, as well as some degree of success in his first two seasons (10-6 each).
Granted, this is one game into the season, but it was an colossal trainwreck of a debut.
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161-1.
there, I said it.
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I have a crisp new dollar bill that says that won’t happen.
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There's no analytics that says to pull a dealing ace after 60-something pitches to put in Hoby Milner and Adam Morgan. The problem isn't Bill James so much as a nut-tanning bodybuilder thinking he's Bill James.
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I have a crisp new dollar bill that says that won’t happen.
ON bitch !
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The most telling thing about this jerkoff is what he said after the game about not being sure he’d do anything different.
Really? Oh so your little red book on how to manage by numbers doesn’t tell you when to admit when you were wrong?
Chip Kelly with Abs of Steel.
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also his dumbass positive outlook on the world will lead him to believe that everyone is awesome and capable and cause him to trust holby milner like chip kelly trusted josh huff
if he makes incorrect decisions based off data its one thing, if he cant see the talent differences between nola and milner/morgan/ramos then i dont know even know where to begin.
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but he's so dreamy.
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Give me Gabe Kaplan! Hell, give me Horshack.
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good thing he took out nola out so early...pivetta really went deep tonight
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Five pitchers used already and they haven’t started the 7th inning. At least Hoskins hit one halfway to Mars tonite.
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Five pitchers used already and they haven’t started the 7th inning. At least Hoskins hit one halfway to Mars tonite.
better take him out for defense
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ive got a slight hunch kapler is an idiot
will get back to you
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This motherfarger is going to use every RP every night isn’t he
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He has confidence they can get the job done so yeah
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Should be 2-0
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Should be 2-0
should be 1-1....had no business winning tonight. baseball is stupid like that sometimes.
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Should be 2-0
nope
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And it only took two games for me to remember why I hate posting in the Phillies thread with Tony Larussa and Billy Beane
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be better at baseball knowledge, soy boy
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be better at baseball knowledge, soy boy
This is where I tell you I played baseball my entire life and sabremetrics are for Klentak nerds
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High School Harry to the rescue
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Baseball was a mistake.
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should be 0-3
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lets give vv another year to 'figure it out'
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should be 0-3
This one should maybe count as two losses.
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first time since ww2 a team used a position player this early in the season to pitch
kapler really off to a hot start
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We have 161 more of these to look forward to before they fire Kapler.
Beginning to think I was too generous with the 161.
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Thank God for Villanova to take my mind off this hot garbage.
Sorry, Todd...
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they are awful
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Glad we finally got to see Florimon take the mound
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And apparently a "communication breakdown (http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/field-and-dugout-phillies-embarrassed-3rd-game-season-braves-loss)" led to Milner being brought in without being properly warmed up.
This is a farging disaster thus far.
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Where’s Paul Ryan at to say he’s all new to this
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I knew Kapler was going to be a disaster but I had no idea it would be this bad. He literally has no idea what he’s doing.
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I knew Kapler was going to be a disaster but I had no idea it would be this bad. He literally has no idea what he’s doing.
chip had the fans eating out of his hand for 2.5 years...gabe hasnt managed 1 home game and everyone wants to murder him
this isnt going to last long
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He’s a joke.
Ship Klentak out too for hiring him.
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it wasnt klentak's decision. it was klentak, mcphail and middleton's.
klentak was probably aggressive on him but he had to win over the other 2 and he did.
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Yesterday was an all time, well I can't so low as we had realistic expectations for this team but my God it was certainly one off the lowest moments for a Phils manager and his staff. Charlie had some head scratching shtein but I don't think I've ever seen what I saw yesterday. The entire free world saw VV had absolutely nothing and not to have had someone up right away was inexcusable. 21 pitchers 28 innings, atta boy Gabe, keep those boys well rested for the post season. This bullpen will be depleted by Memorial Day.
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I try not to go overboard with reactions, but that was so bad, I'm beginning to wonder how long Kaper will make it. I'm starting to doubt it will be a full season.
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For all the comparisons to Kelly that I’m seeing and saying myself, at least Kelly had a wealth of head coaching experience before he was hired. He was arrogant and stubborn and his act grew tiresome after a while, but at least he was experienced at some level.
This guy is just a charlatan and he has absolutely no business managing a big league team, least of all one in a market where the fans will come after him with torches and pitchforks.
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The Chip comparisons are because of the overuse of analytics and sports science. It pretty much ends there.
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lol
ok gotcha - I will send it this weeeknd
you have until a phillies starter is allowed to pitch into the 7th before i change the password
ok let me amend that. you have until tuesday
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Damn it I had front row seats to Phils-Mets at Citi tonight but of course we get an April snowstorm.
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Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday.
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Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday.
If Kapler doesn't pull him because of his chart...
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on the bright side the phillies havent made a pitching change since saturday
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this is a really miniscule thing but with the off day, rain out, csn.com exclusive and facebook exclusive, the phillies will go 4 days in between televised games.
when is the last time that happened? the 70s? before prism?
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Dougie P is throwing out the first pitch on Tuesday.
If Kapler doesn't pull him because of his chart...
:-D :yay
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on the bright side the phillies havent made a pitching change since saturday
:-D :-D :yay :yay
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Ridiculous seamhead bullshtein again. Thank god for the Birds because it might be 50 years before these losers will win again.
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Missed the Facebook Fiasco. Glad I did.
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Missed the Facebook Fiasco. Glad I did.
Me too. I hear that it was bad, but was it worse than TMac?
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i went to summer camp with the guy who did the game, scott braun. hes not a pbp guy. hes a studio host. was way out of his element doing games. totally missed stuff. they tried way too hard to implement "social media" things. the graphics were way too big. mlb shouldve forced facebook to do a non-exclusive year before taking this on. asburd to expect them to put on a good broadcast with 0 experience.
kruk wasnt taking it seriously and just cracking jokes the entire time...he said farg at one point
also the phillies are bad. how is 165 at bats from rosario enough of a sample size to employ that drastic of a shift? im sure the data was accurate but williams was playing deep 2B. but what difference does it make they cant score.
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Missed the Facebook Fiasco. Glad I did.
Me too. I hear that it was bad, but was it worse than TMac?
yes
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this guy may be worse than doug moe.
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KR did a 2018 managers on the hotseat column and guess who was first
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Heyman mentioned that someone in the clubhouse dropped the "we will be fine if the manager gets out of the way"
and now Nick Williams wonders why he doesn't play much "because I guess thats what the computers say." He also said that Coconut Balls texts him ahead of time - he then stays up late playing video games.
Helluva hire!
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nick williams doesnt play because he sucks
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kapler may not be doing so well early on, but he looks so dreamy doing it.
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Did the computer tell you that?
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no his inability to walk did
their optimal lineup right now is rotating altherr, franco and crawford (one sits). kingery and cesar play every day.
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nick williams doesnt play because he sucks
yeah the real question with the phillies is who sucks more their "prospects" or their manager
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kingery is legit...hoskins obviously...altherr has had a few bad games but i think hes a good ML level player in some capacity (hes not really a prospect though)
crawford is likely terrible and if he turns out to be decent its likely not worth the 1-2 year investment itll take. his best skills are defense and plate discipline. so hes got a mighty low ceiling. otherwise haisley is the only bat im excited about. arms are wholy unpredictable but sixto gets me a chubber.
in the end i dont think kaplers decision making is going to be a problem. the fact that everyone in the city/clubhouse despises him will be.
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so the answer is they mostly all suck prospects and manager
also altherr is not a prospect
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most prospects suck or need tons of time to become decent...if youre trying to win like they are now you cant give nick williams 400 at bats to "figure it out."
they have movable, controllable players with some value and tons of salary space. im confident they can add some impact players. to me the key to everything is getting something out of alfaro and nola establishing himself as a top of the rotation starter. finding top flight pitching and decent catchers are really tough.
youve obviously gotta wait the nationals out (this year, maybe next if they keep bryce), but after that they easily could have as good a team as any the division.
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they have utter garbage to be good within three years....but to be fair a lot of it has to do with having top picks in drafts that were horrid
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the corny randy/mickey moniak b2b could well kill them.
you know what can help? giving manny 400 mil
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the corny randy/mickey moniak b2b could well kill them.
yeah this is just disgraceful
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Just a reminder
http://www.concretefield.info/forum/index.php?topic=22037.0
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Where the bugs bunny gif tho
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if alfaro can reach even a slightly below average walk rate he could be ridiculous
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Where the bugs bunny gif tho
Get on it Geo!
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holy shtein looking at the box score today jake thompson got a save....is there anything so bad and so good at the same time as baseball stats
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Happy?
And here's Franco's hit:
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So -13 in the first VV start, +19 in the next...
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went to the bank last night, some cool new things
-have a wiffle bat game for kids where bulls bbq used to be. if any of you are dumb and have small kids theyll dig
-there are 2 rather large areas on the edge of ashburn alley with nothing and are just there for people to aimlessly stand and lines to form.
-the wall of fame moved to the lf entrance. much easier to see. there are small number statues of the retired numbers. this whole thing is neat.
-bulls and some other jawns are now down the 3b line
-dont eat ballpark food its crap
-where the wall of fame used to be is now seating/standing area where you can get a better view of the visiting pen and drunkenly yell things at annomyous middle relievers
-20 runs wow
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Murph just went to the revamped Ashburn Alley. He stopped by the P.J. Whelihan's, Christ I knew it was expensive but damn, basket of 6 wings and a beer going to set you back $20 - $25.
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louisville slugger Nick
Filter lol
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What did Hal the computer say about that Williams dinger?
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
i was told jp crawford was the best
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using
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I was told there'd be Asian Porn
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using
I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using
I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.
so after 2 years you now want to shell out the $ for EI....yea and im following nola's win totals
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I was told Nick Williams sucks
i was told you were going to paypal me for the mlbtv youre using
I haven't used it yet this year...have been using my DTV EI package.
speaking of loot dont forget that last 10 for fbb
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Last 10? I'm confused.
EI was free and I haven't been home much at night to be honest so I've been using the free trial they gave me
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not sure if you got it but i sent you a follow up message after i originally forgot to remind you to add an extra ten for last place penalty....you only paid the entry fee
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https://twitter.com/phillies/status/983867503855243264 21
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Kingery Grand Slam!
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Billy Hamilton is a damn good ball player.
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Nice start by Nola tonight. Amazing that Kapler let him go eight innings. His bullpen finger must be getting twitchy.
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EI was free and I haven't been home much at night to be honest so I've been using the free trial they gave me
phillyphreakcasual54
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I’m home to watch tonight!
I’m moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I don’t know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then I’ll be in on mlb tv
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I’m home to watch tonight!
I’m moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I don’t know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then I’ll be in on mlb tv
Thought only Hawaii had that problem. Next icehole at Costco who asks me if I want to get DTV gets kicked in the genitals after I ask if them if that includes the fee to blow up the 800 foot extinct volcanic crater next to our home blocking the feed.
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I’m home to watch tonight!
I’m moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I don’t know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then I’ll be in on mlb tv
the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN
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jp hi
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I’m home to watch tonight!
I’m moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I don’t know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then I’ll be in on mlb tv
the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN
I have it for a month bc I complained about Sunday ticket and how I couldn’t get it to work on my app for multiple weeks
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my god odubel
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I’m home to watch tonight!
I’m moving to a new apartment in my complex later this month. I don’t know if I can have DTV there bc of the way it faces. If not then I’ll be in on mlb tv
the EI free preview was for 1 week....you LYIN
I have it for a month bc I complained about Sunday ticket and how I couldn’t get it to work on my app for multiple weeks
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KINGery does it again
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bad thing is they only play the reds 3 more times
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the schedule in general this month is a joke...if they have any notions at all about getting a wild card they better work april good
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Welp, they workin the Rays good. Great googly moogly.
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the rays are a really bad team but baby steps huh
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the rays are a really bad team but baby steps huh
How does this franchise survive? This shtein box arena they play in is an embarrassment to baseball. Move to Las Vegas already.
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the nats are two games back
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survived some over managing from kapler today
helps that the rays are quite horrible
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I’m assuming the guy chanting Let’s go Flyers doesn’t have a smart phone. Stick with the E-A-G-L-E-S homie
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if the season ended today your phillies would host the wc game
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they also would have exactly two wins over teams with a winning record and that team is the braves
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if they beat the crap out of bad teams and dont get embarrassed by good teams they can still get to 80 wins or more because like 10 teams in mlb are trying this year
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Arent mediocre teams like the Phils supposed to beat bad teams?
Asking for a friend.
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Pretty sure this is peak optimism for the whole season right now. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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So do they make a hat or t-shirt that says "1/10 the season Wild Card Champs"? shtein they make a celebratory hat/shirt for everything these days why not for this great accomplishmnet?
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Arrieta was making the Bucs look like fools last night. That sinker of his is ridiculous. Best moment was JP scoring Friday from first on a single. Looked like something you’d see in Little League.
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they played last night?
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not only did they play they finally used their optimal lineup and scored 7 runs
go away mike franco
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they played last night?
It’s what the white folks watched
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go away mike franco
:yay
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their 5-9 tonight is altherr, knapp, franco, lively, crawford which is a complete abomination
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their 5-9 tonight is altherr, knapp, franco, lively, crawford which is a complete abomination
You're not enamored with Altherr's sparkling .098 batting average?
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If that was my whole lineup, I'd be tempted to bat Lively cleanup.
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2-0 when i go
i know i know youre welcome
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J, Rome, Geo and I will pay your way to the next 70 home games.
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J, Rome, Geo and I will pay your way to the next 70 home games.
Unfortunately, on a teacher's salary, I might be able to buy him a hot dog. If I take out a loan...
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the phillies pitching might be good
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10 come from behind wins already. That’s not sustainable but there’s no use in worrying about it either. Let’s just enjoy it while it lasts.
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It's amazing that they're 14-7 with the offensive problems they've had. The starting pitching 1-4 has been no less than stellar thus far. If the bats can get it going, this could be a much more fun season than I anticipated.
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I’m more impressed with how they’ve played despite having a Scientologist freakboy as a manager. Seriously, every time he speaks, I cringe. He makes me pine for the homespun turn of phrase days of Gomer Manuel.
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may 4, 5, 6 phils at nats is gonna be fire
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just gonna leave this here
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VV gives up back to back dongs. Don't worry IGY, I have the Sixers game on the big TV, bums relegated to iPad
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sixers bandwagon is full
and we saw last night what will ultimately happen over the next month when the phillies play good teams
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yes when their 4th best pitcher cant get the bottom of the order out theyll lose games
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yeah and the line up struck out a thousand times
bad teams play good teams bad things happen
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theyre going to strike out a lot just simply based on the way they play. taking a lot of pitches and working deep counts results in a lot of strikeouts (but also walks).
obviously it was at a bit of an extreme last night. kingery going through some rookie struggles doesnt help. alfaro being quite possibly the worst hitter in baseball doesnt either.
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nice little win here for the phils
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nice little win here for the phils
Either you're clairvoyant, or my feed is seriously behind.
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shame 2 of the 3 starters the phillies are giving the dbacks arent any good, but at least they got one
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They suck again.
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yup
but they are winning 80 games
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yea they had 6 games against good teams and used 5th starters in 4 of them...lost them all. won when they used real pitchers. i sense a trend.
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They also fielded a lineup yesterday with three hitters below the Mendoza line, and it could have been four if Crawford didn't land on the DL. Hittin' like it's 1968 isn't necessarily a winning formula.
EDIT: Congrats on ALTHERR for reaching Mendoza yesterday. Down to two tomorrow!
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their roster is simply awful...it’s actually amazing what they have done even against a terrible schedule
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i know youre watching hockey and not april baseball but the phillies arent close to awful
at least half the league isnt trying
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must be the half that have played the phillies
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wonder if the nats will be in that pack when the phillies steal bryce from them
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man would I love to see pivetta own tonight but it’s probably going to be one of his 6 ER games
it’s also the only chance to win a game this series
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well this was the most predictable thing ever
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couldve played around with off days to at least get nola in this game
they cant win right now so why not test your actual foundation pieces
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Bryce Harper is farging amazing
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couldve played around with off days to at least get nola in this game
they cant win right now so why not test your actual foundation pieces
you answered your own question because they can’t win go normal...when you are actually playing for something is when you tinker and move shtein around
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pivetta actually did better than I thought he would
no one is more hit or miss than him
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its way too early to tinker if youre trying to win....but to me its just silly to waste nola against an AAA team in florida. then again the phillies lost 2/3 to them and arrieta was destroyed.
anyway harper just hit the longest hr in baseball since 2015 but he sucks
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lolol no wait that will go be him 6 er right?
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its way too early to tinker if youre trying to win....but to me its just silly to waste nola against an AAA team in florida. then again the phillies lost 2/3 to them and arrieta was destroyed.
anyway harper just hit the longest hr in baseball since 2015 but he sucks
i don’t disagree with that but if you suck ass there’s literally no reason to tinker
has anyone even good teams tinkered on may 4?
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also if you are gonna tinker get nick farging Williams in the lineup as a regular
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outside of maybe holding someone back to set up a fun pitching matchup....no. i think la/wsh did that this year to get scherzer/kershaw but i may be wrong.
anyway if harper stays: him, turner, albies, freeman and acuna are all better than anyone the phillies could even think to have. go eagles.
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lol I was just about to ask you how you felt about the braves lapping the phils
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if they cant get anything out this FA class its going to be a really, really long time before theyre competitive
the braves dont have enough money to keep all these guys together but none of them can hit free agency until like 2025
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we can argue all day about the Santana signing and how Rhys could there but why is nick Williams not getting at bats over altherr
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because williams sucks
altherr i think is a ML player in some capacity...likely a 4th OF or platoon option. williams is a AAAA player.
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altherr is garbage with no upside...nick might suck but needs at minimum a full season of PA....theres literally no reason he should not be playing....just trade him if he sucks
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that was the plan...then they went out and signed santana to try to let everyone in baseball know they were serious. or something. i dont know.
neither williams or altherr will be an everyday player for them in 2019 so who cares really
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i thought 2020 might be the contending year and now 2020 might be a reboot year
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if they dont sign 2 hitters and a pitcher this winter the reboot year is 2019
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i think the young guys need another season of PA and IP before a reboot but yeah i could easily see it next year
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the only "young guy" is kingery and maybe alfaro
hernandez and herrera are well established. hoskins' timing is off now but hes pretty damn good.
even if jp magically turns out to be decent or williams does, its still not going to be enough to match atlanta without machado
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how is alfaro young but not jp
you know how long it takes to be good in the majors for most players
jp
nick dub
alfaro
kingery
rhys
pivetta
vince
lively
quinntastic
run all these motherfargers out the on the regular for the next two years and see what happens....of course i know this is not possible with the OF cause of santana
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alfaro is a catcher and those are impossible to find...they require more patience. plus he has 2 legit tools (power, arm). jp has ZERO tools and is playing a position where you can find talent.
im pretty much just writing him off as a lost cause. kingery is the guy you run out for 600 PAs no matter how good/bad.
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thats just preposterous....i think they all stink but saying they should run out alfaro and kingery but not jp is one of the dumbest things ive ever heard
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no i was talking about guys i actually think they can possibly rely on
obviously this year they should have kingery 3b - jp ss - alfaro c - everyday. franco can go play in japan.
but i dont really get any sense jp is good and would not exhibit a massive amount of patience with him.
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what the eff has happened to Tom eschelman
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soft tossing junk baller
only a matter of time before you get got
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how bout them fightins
probably should never play nick dub again
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this is not good
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why are they pitching to Adams
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got out of it but that was really dumb
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hector is cooked
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he hasn’t thrown a single strike this inning
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Games like this are why we call them the bums.
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Seems like Philly sports has lost the Super Bowl mojo. Back to reality...
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the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one
on the bright side only a few more months to go before seranthony is closing
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the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one
If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.
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If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me.
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thats the difference btwn an eagle fan and a philly fan
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sick bern.
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phillies have nine players on a pace for 100+ strikeouts
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the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one
If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.
obviously you missed the braves/celtics/penguins portion of the bill...cause they are better than yo squads
If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me.
then be like j and quit
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on the bright side only a few more months to go before seranthony is closing
make that days or weeks
got the call today
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the bill has come for the super bowl and its a hefty one
If the bill is the Phillies being what we thought they were, and the Flyers and Sixers both getting one round deeper into the playoffs than we had any right to expect, that is one light bill.
obviously you missed the braves/celtics/penguins portion of the bill...cause they are better than yo squads
If none of the Philly teams ever win again, the price paid for that win is more than acceptable to me.
then be like j and quit
Wut
Btw gonna need to get that mlb hookup. I’ve moved into my new place
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well look who came crawling back
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Ain’t never left son
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Herrera picked up his 500th hit of his career in his 476th career game Sunday in Washington. Per Elias last Phillies player to reach 500 hits in fewer games was Utley who reached 500 in 474 career contests.
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Atta boy Geo!
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Speaking of Odubel, I'm pretty sure he's been on base in every game he's played this year.
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37 straight games now.
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Star of tonight was Aaron Nola.
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i was told by some pretty smart baseball dudes a few years ago that he was a 5
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He has a legit third pitch now. It’s made all the difference and has was pretty good before that.
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you dont understand. very smart baseball dudes looked at some articles about him around the time he was drafted and decided he was a 5. so thats it.
its over. hes a 5. maybe a long man.
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he better end up being more than a 5 because every number 1 since him is a pos
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he better end up being more than a 5 because every number since him is a pos
his walk rate isnt amazing but
http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=660853#/gamelogs/R/pitching/2018/MINORS
does this make up for badly missing on randolph and moniak and likely missing on hasely? nope. but its something.
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Deja vu!
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Santana may actually flirt with .200
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The long haired hippie freak lefty sucks.
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getting syndergaard and degrom this weekend
nola v degrom on moms day
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ill be there in bomb seats
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im planning to go either friday or saturday
arrieta - matz on friday they can win.
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odubel is out of his mind
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Santana now has more RBI’s than Hoskins.
Wut.
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he has 13 this SERIES
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and now theyll get swept by the mets
current plan is to go fri AND sat. im 2-0 this year. put your money in now.
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the last day the Phillies were in first place in each of the past six seasons:
4/9/17
4/3/16
4/5/15
3/31/14
2013 - never
4/6/12
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Damn, I would have guessed later. Feels like they had a couple solid Aprils in there. Just not as good as the Nats, I guess.
It's usually about now that the real Phils take off the mask.
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farging Neris.
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I really hate him
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Boo that piece of horse shtein out of here
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Eat me.
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seranthony
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does this make up for badly missing on randolph and moniak and likely missing on hasely? nope. but its something.
in a combined 260 PA moniak and hasely have a total of 6 walks
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they really dont even need them, what they need them for is to be good enough to trade. yeah good look dangling mickey moniak out there.
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Ain’t never left son
someone come get your man
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How much is the MLBtv thing again?
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$115.99 for entire season (not pro-rated yet)
$24.99 per month
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i think you can get just the phillies games for a lot less tho cant you...like 79.99 or something
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or you can throw me 55 but then again you dont like sports anymore
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ive been to two phillie games in the last four days and the combined number of rows ive sat behind their dugout has been 16.....both wins.....fun times
i got a stubhub ticket for today 10 minutes before game time nine rows behind the phils dugout for 32 including fees.....ive never seen that at a pro sporting event
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ive been to 3 games so far...paid $25 total for them...sat about 8 rows up the first 2 games and in that section behind the diamond club in the other game (neris blowner against the mets)
dont. out. jew. a. jew.
also are the phillies good?
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also are the phillies good?
Record says yes, eye test says maybe the rest of MLB is pretty bad.
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I thought Nola would be good and Arrieta would eventually be a 15 game winner, but the rest?
No sir.
I still think they end up under .500 but you never know.
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also are the phillies good?
not yet....this streak ends july first
at cards (22-17)
vs. braves (25-16)
vs. jays (22-21)
at los dodgers (16-25)
at giants (22-22)
at cubbies (22-17)
vs. brewers (26-18)
vs. rockies (23-20)
at brewers (26-18)
vs. cards (22-17)
at nats (24-18)
vs. yanks (28-12)
vs. nats (24-18)
lets see what they are then....so far they have beasted on garbage...nats and braves about the only two good teams they have played have owned them
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also are the phillies good?
Record says yes, eye test says maybe the rest of MLB is pretty bad.
I can report firsthand that the Orioles are pretty bad.
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also are the phillies good?
not yet....this streak ends july first
at cards (22-17)
vs. braves (25-16)
vs. jays (22-21)
at los dodgers (16-25)
at giants (22-22)
at cubbies (22-17)
vs. brewers (26-18)
vs. rockies (23-20)
at brewers (26-18)
vs. cards (22-17)
at nats (24-18)
vs. yanks (28-12)
vs. nats (24-18)
lets see what they are then....so far they have beasted on garbage...nats and braves about the only two good teams they have played have owned them
how many wins in this stretch do they need for you to be impressed
im not arguing this mentality but there is something to be said for feasting on bad teams. phils might not be good but they are not bad. this is progress.
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I mean they have zero chance to win the division but to be a serious wild card contender they need to go about 2-3 games below .500 in that stretch
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when they trade for realmuto and hamels will they then have a shot at the division
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im not on jay levels of ridiculousness where i wouldnt want harper on the phillies** but god damn manny machado is one of my favorite baseball players ever and id take him a million times over bryce
**- and i hate bryce harpers guts
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radar says that the last of the rain should be thru st louis in the next few minutes
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945
nothing better than a late night friday jawn
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yeah the later the better...altho tomorrow is nice too....215 go out for some day drinking games are great as well
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there are like 100 festivals in philly tomorrow...it be perfect if it wasnt going to pour
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that could have been worse
also the obligatory Tmac is wheels level awful and he cant leave soon enough....it’s so painful
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are you using my mlbtv or did you do your own thing
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mlbtv
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this one ended quickly
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mlbtv
mine or yours
cause i have both announcer option so you can avoid tmac
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Glad I went to bed and didn't stay up for that clusterfarg.
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This Jordon Hicks from the Cards is frieghtening. 21 year old throwing 100+ consistently.
Not a big kid but damn he has a howitzer for an arm.
From Houston. J, Todd either one of you remember him in high school?
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seeing as i was 7 hours south of that shteinhole city, no
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holy shtein, I didn't realize you were that far from Houston. I always thought you were in the burbs.
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he was in border wall territory
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This Jordon Hicks from the Cards is frieghtening. 21 year old throwing 100+ consistently.
Not a big kid but damn he has a howitzer for an arm.
From Houston. J, Todd either one of you remember him in high school?
I sure don't. But I don't really keep up with the local HS scene here.
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or you can throw me 55 but then again you dont like sports anymore
I will this week. Prob tonight when I get home.
Things have finally calmed down a bit to where I can actually get home and sit down and watch.
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on the edge of my seat
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Why would the Phillies give up the farm (literally) to get Machado now? I keep reading that drivel and I don’t see the need. If they don’t get him in free agency they’ll need the talent they have in the system to offset his “loss.” If they do get him in free agency, they’ll need the low cost talent they’ll have remaining to offset the king’s ransom they’ll pay him, not to mention the other guys they’ll presumably get to join him.
Just roll the farging dice and bet on your ex-Oriole personnel guys to reel him in.
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even if you trade for him it doesnt mean he stays...and even if you add him you still arent winning a world series. its just a preposterous thing.
IF he signed long term amid the trade, then id do it. but hes going to test the open market, so its moot. with the doyer playing better, perhaps they pull off the rental for him. thats the perfect place for him to go, if he does go, since they have no place for him in 19 and cant even really afford him.
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Obviously there would have to be an agreement in place before they made a deal. I could see the Phillies being delusional enough to believe they have a shot this year, though.
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amaro and monty arent running things anymore, theres no delusion
just hardcore numbers and probability. they know, even with machado, their odds are zilch to win a title. not to mention any big trade they make will be for a player with many years left on his deal. they arent giving up assets for a rental. your likely trade is for hamels, kelvin herrera, something small like that.
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The one guy I would actually love to see the Phillies trade for is Harper. Not because I want him but because it would destroy the Nationals and probably kill Havas to have him then lose him.
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it would be really cool if they traded for mike trout, too
maybe make a trade for 1998 barry bonds?
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I’d rather have 1991 Bonds. Or 1974 Joe Morgan.
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you are confusing me and jay
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nicks thrown a few pitches
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Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL
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you are confusing me and jay
Lol
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Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL
well may rhys hoskins certainly is but april rhys hoskins is very good
March10 2 5 2 0 1 3 1 1 1 1 0 .500 .583 1.00 1.583
April 79 14 22 6 0 3 16 23 1 28 2 2 .278 .442 .468 .910
May 59 9 10 4 0 2 8 8 1 24 0 0 .169 .275 .339 .614
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so refreshing to have the phils be an actual real team
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alfaro doesnt have an 80 arm he has an 1000 arm
good lord
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Nicky p in the place to be
went to New Mexico Jay cee
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alfaro doesnt have an 80 arm he has an 1000 arm
good lord
That was a fricken amazing throw.
Damn the Braves are on the verge of being a contender again.
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Rhys Hoskins is AWFUL
He sure is.
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this is pretty neat....i wouldnt mind going if it wasnt a tuesday
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so I see "nails" is still being "nails"
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3-1 on the year...arrieta was snapping
ya boy rhys hit some balls hard and they found gloves. hoping hell be ok.
i wound up in the first row above the diamond level next to some scouts and jesse biddle's family. one guy with them was still rockin the red phils shirt. chesnut hill die hard.
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Hoskins is worthless right now...he needs to sit...an atrocious fielder can play if he’s hittin but he’s terrible at both
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Jay Wright with the World Surf League t-shirt going at CBP. Sitting in the dog friendly section with his retriever. Knew this guy was the man!
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Hoskins is worthless right now...he needs to sit...an atrocious fielder can play if he’s hittin but he’s terrible at both
see that sweet walk bro
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go to hell and die rhys
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probably a ball but too close to take
regardless he missed a hittable pitch 1-1
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send him away...anywhere....i dont care
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if his name was randall hoskins and phillies twitter called him a smoke would you feel this way
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I only care that he’s wet poop
this really sucks for Nola....best he’s ever looked and he’s looked really good
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Was at the gym watching and the expletives were flying during that rain delay and the 7th.
Agreed, best he’s look. When he struck out the side in the 5th or 6th? He was throwing some nasty shtein.
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I only care that he’s wet poop
this really sucks for Nola....best he’s ever looked and he’s looked really good
if this isnt one of your liberal soapbox things and a legit take then its one of the worst youve ever had....hoskins is having a bad month, sure, but its ridiculous to bench him for aaron altherr
as for nola i didnt have high hopes after watching him warm up. he was laboring. he started before garcia and finished after him. shows how much that matters. probably was never going to get there with his pinch count, but damn that rain delay. in the 3rd or 4th he basically had the same # of balls and strikes. i didnt even know he had a nono until after the 5th.
anyway williams homer went directly over my head. spot me on the replay. my ticket cost $4 on seatgeek. the rain, which was never much of a thing, turned the secondary market nonexistent.
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the braves are pounding Chris sale and the Phillies are getting no hit
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should they just give up on this and tank
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i think they will tank by accident...they are so close to being horrible....its a fine line and they are riding the right side of it....the pitching cannot sustain this....really should have been swept this weekend...its just unfathomable the record they have with their offense....schedule has had a lot to do with it but still
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they have the 6th most runs in the NL
not that im enamored with their offense but league average offense and very good pitching is a decent recipe for success. even with an expected drop off, winning 80ish game is a pretty good season for them.
then, manny.
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looks like the phils will see kershaw on thursday and bumgarner on friday
both will probably be on pitch counts but still. good test.
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Reality tour. That was a shtein show and a half tonight. VV pitched a great game, Sir Anthony is a farging beast and than there’s that sorry excuse of a bullpen. This road trip will be the kick in the nuts we all knew was coming.
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the eighth inning was obviously a calamity but the reason they lost was the offense again...you can’t go for three hits and no runs for the last 7 innings of the game
and just put Rhys to sleep...another sweet oh fer and that 9th inning at bat was so embarrassing...actually felt pity for him
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Your hatred of that kid is really weird.
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I actually like him...but I don’t judge a player by like of them ...fact is he’s been farging brutal for well over a month and if and when he ever becomes a hitter he still will not be able to play defense
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they have to have the worst defense in baseball and thats not even counting the cement foot statue in LF
kingery has actually gotten a lot better at SS, though
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their pen has had a rough couple of days lately but in general its really good with the potential to be great but yeah their defense is brutal and their offense largely absent....if one or both of these things doesnt improve (mostly the offense) then when the SP regresses they are going to be in big trouble
i guess its possible the pitching doesnt regress but the starters have a 3.33 era....i cant believe thats not going to go up significantly.....if it doesnt boy are they going to be loaded for the future with good young pitchers
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I don’t know what the stats are, but I’ve seen enough brutal bullpen implosions this year to last me a whole season, and it’s not even June yet.
And the defense is indeed putrid.
Still, they’re 29-22 which is about 10 wins better than I thought they’d be at this point, so beggars/choosers, etc.
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im not really sure i blame last night on the pen....the defense farged up 3 fairly routine plays (granted, morgan did one). there really havent been "bullpen" implosions. just a few NERIS implosions. the bigger issue which i think you mentioned was the offense shutting down after the cesar hr.
but i guess the team projected to win 70 something games might not make the playoffs? oh ma gad. if they can hang around the playoff race until labor day ill be pleased. right now just happy to be able to watch semi meaningful baseball again.
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i root hard for eflin to do well because of his back story but assuming eickhoff is fully healthy thats going to be a huge upgrade in the rotation
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id agree, but theres nothing positive coming from eickhoff. nerve damage. cant feel his fingertips. yikes.
they could also give de los santos a shot, though his bb rate isnt spectacular. really the thing that makes the most sense is bringing cole home, but youre going to do it, do it now. decent chance they might not need him by july.
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farg you Hector!
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He makes Hoskins look like Ted Williams. 1/3 innng 3 H 1 R, and Tommy Hunter of all people bails his ass out
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pedro florimon with a broken foot....hopefully jp is right around the corner
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he still needs more rehab...they are calling mitch walding
legit question is if, when jp is back, do they do it for walding or drew hutchinson. SP has so good theres been no real need for a mop up man. they are more likely to play a close game, where you could use an extra bat.
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So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?
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Doyers with a beat down through 5. Eflin looked like horse shtein. Dodgers starting to get healthy. They get everyone back at 100%, watch out.
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So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?
they need to check his broken bat for holes
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the dodgers doc said he was fine
CONSPIRACY
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1. Machado to the Phillies for shortstop prospect Arquimedes Gamboa and pitching prospects Enyel De Los Santos and Jose Taveras.
from heymans fake tades story...if this is within the ballpark then it needs to be done. i sort of figured if the phillies wanted someone of consequence it would take kingery or sixto, but if this is close it shouldnt even require a thought.
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i would give 8 kingerys for manny
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So no one thought to check Hoskins for a broken jaw before allowing him to pinch hit last night?
they need to check his broken bat for holes
LMFAO :-D :-D
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Aaron Nola is pretty good.
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What a play by Kingery
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kingery is better at SS than jp
as good as that play was the altherr catch mightve been better and more important
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jp went yard tonight
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in high A
he validily sucks
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speaking of
http://www.mcall.com/sports/baseball/ironpigs/mc-spt-phillies-amateur-drafts-last15-years-0603-story.html
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hasely-moniak-randolph is as brutal a stretch you can have of top picks
will any of these guys even get to lehigh
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whats worse that trio or watching this offense
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why is dylan cousins in the majors again?
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the lone bat on the 40 man
a legit follow up is why is cuzzo on the 40 man
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40 man?
he shouldnt even be in the organization....yet hes somehow playing in a semi important mlb game
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the phillies are 4th in mlb in striking out and also 4th in mlb in drawing walks
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their defense flat out sucks
kind of amazing their record is this good
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its not gonna be for long
bad offense and bad defense is a bad combo
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you have to hope ya man rhys and odubs can get going at the same time
this next week against these good teams with knapp-cuzzo-walding stretches will NOT be pretty
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odie will end up the year good to vg but he had to regress....he was hitting way above his means
what you gotta hope for is rhys gets better and bumps into odie where he levels out and they meet in the middle
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you know what else can help? trading for machado
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this game was a complete embarrassment from start to finish but still not nearly as bad as having to listen to tmac....who is even worse when the game sucks
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the giants guys...kruk and kipe...are among the best. the past like 5 years ive had giants pitchers in fantasy so id watch them a lot.
not sure how you can be listening to tmac if given another outlet. even j pretends not to.
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^^total agreement^^
We got the Giants broadcast on TV here last night. Miller and Krukow are like Scully and Rick Monday were/are for Dodgers. No homerism at all, just a straight up, knowledgeable broadcast. Duane Kuipers "OUUTTTAHHH HERE!" home run calls are priceless.
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they are just beyond repug to watch
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see what happens when they dont have rhys
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when he rehabs in allentown they should just leave him there
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who is better: rhys or mitch walding
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does it matter?
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rhys had a higher obp in may than altherr, but i guess whatever who cares bring back delmon young
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What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?
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arrieta > their lineup
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whats most pathetic is the trio of guys they have faced this weekend had a total of around 150 mlb innings pitched and an era of around 5.00....and dook today is making his mlb debut
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they should def keep playing altherr over hoskins though
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ABH
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What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?
hes still on the phillies but hes white
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mike franco has been polluting the world with his sub 300 obp for the past 4 years but the real problem is 1 bad month from hoskins
jp hitting a crisp 200 in high A so cant wait for him to get back
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no one worships franco...everyone knows hes puke...that ship sailed long ago
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based on their available players give me your optimal lineup...injured players ok
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throw them all in one of those volcano fissures
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meltdown
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how long would they have to play for the phillies to get to 5 runs....july?
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dont fret mickey hit his first homer of the season
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the legend of mitch walding continues. 0-6 with 6 ks.
where do they find these guys
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What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?
hes still on the phillies but hes white
POTW :-D :-D
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throw them all in one of those volcano fissures
I can see to that.
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Mitch Walding has been in the organization since 2011 and I think this is the first time I've been aware he exists.
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the legend of mitch walding continues. 0-6 with 6 ks.
where do they find these guys
I think I sat next to a Mitch Walding in shop class in 7th grade.
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Mitch Walding has been in the organization since 2011 and I think this is the first time I've been aware he exists.
Saw him in the lineup on Friday night and thought who in the hell is this? Did I miss some phenom in the system? No, didn't miss a thing.
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What's Dom Brown doing nowadays?
hes still on the phillies but hes white
Dom White? Sounds gritty...
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whoa arrieta is not happy....i love it
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complaining about shifts is old man nonsense...they by and large work. its simple math.
i do like the other stuff he said. but to be fair its difficult to have accountaiblity when your bench is as putrid as theirs is right now. youre gonna bench santana so jesmuel valentin can play?
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its more to farg with the fans who think they are good...im pretty sure other than maybe arrieta every man in that locker room knows they suck
driving seam heads like you crazy is a bonus
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rut roh WARP!!!
Phillies do rank last in our Shift Runs Saved stat (-11 entering today)
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part of that has to do with the general porous defense...but they do shift more extreme than most teams do, so its not asinine to say it needs to be brought down a notch
but on the whole shifts do work. arrieta is just a mad meathead after a really bad game.
im pretty sure other than maybe arrieta every man in that locker room knows they suck
actually they are playing with a lot more confidence this year...not that kapler is amazing but their previous 2 managers were trainwrecks so having one that at least has the players backs is welcome
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Arietta demanding accountability from everyone other than himself was a thing of cognitive dissonant beauty.
I mean he’s right about nerdtastic Kapler, and the offense only scoring one run in three games is atrocious, but ripping everyone in sight is weak sauce.
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The Philz selected a guy named Alec Bohm.
So one more Bohm to add to the list, I guess?
🤓
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https://www.mlb.com/phillies/video/bohm-on-being-drafted-no-3/c-2118729983?tid=262722544
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Who cares about that dork.
Interviewer chick = infinity plow, however.
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thats peter rosenbergs wife and shes not hot but put bleach blonde hair on an eggplant and 90% of white guys will pee their pants
also he might be the worst interview ive ever heard
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I muted it after 30 seconds. It was breaking my concentration, if you know what I’m saying.
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peter rosenberg
heeb
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Nice effort by Eflin tonight.
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he was most definitely pitching for his spot in the rotation, too
nola day.
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Holy farg! Welcome to the big leagues Sir Tony and we already Morgan was a pile of shtein.
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the only thing worse than that ending is the seeing the neaderthals on twitter react to it
baseball really brings out just the dumbest human beings ever
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There’s worse things. Like reading quotes like “high leverage moment” afterward. Baseball really isn’t all that complicated. Funny how real baseball men understand that and don’t try to reinvent it after 150 years of the game being played and managed in successful ways.
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what is a real baseball man
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what is a real baseball man
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--KKuzGaUa--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ubcrm1an4pez9x39feuq.jpg)
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give me the month in which the Phillies win their next series
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theyve got some easyish games in july
but i mean if theyre still hitting kingAAAry 3rd anything is possible
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Nice meltdown from Vinnie tonite.
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loud mouth arrieta backing his shtein up
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Sixto on the DL with elbow inflammation. (https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/csn/phillies/Phillies_top_prospect_Sixto_Sanchez_to_DL_with_elbow_inflammation-485038321.html)
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rhys needs to break his face more often
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the phillies farging bunt A LOT for an analytical wet dream team
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this team is sweet
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JUNE SWOOOOOOONNNNNN...
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Adam Morgan, yes there are a lot of issues on this team but he's a pretty big one.
Fo Fo Fo!
4H 4R 4ER
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It's the Phillies and it's June. That's pretty much all the analysis you need for what is going on right now.
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Correct but it was fun scoreboard watching for a week.
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pro: i paid $18 for 2 tickets and we walked down and sat right in front of the tarp on the lf foul line
con: the game
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hitter extroidairre Rhys Hoskins is hitting .235
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you are worse about rhys than skip is about lebron
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Rhys got mvps and titles I don’t know about?
SD is sooooooo good
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he has 5 of their 7 RBIs the last 2 days.
find a new slant
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yay
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odubel doesnt have a hit this century...altherr sucks...wlliams is mediocre...kingery is a travesty...crawford belongs in reading
but rhys hoskins totally sucks
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/curt-schilling-gabe-kapler-red-sox-world-series-phillies-reunion-20180610.html?mobi=true
Another reason to hate that guy
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schilling makes me look skinny
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Kruk looked like me on my surfboard of late - hobblin' & wooblin'
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https://twitter.com/Rockies/status/1006620951579189255
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Kind of sort of.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Coors_field_aerial_1.JPG/1200px-Coors_field_aerial_1.JPG)
Great shot.
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If ever in Denver and Rockies are in town, highly recommend a visit to Coors Field. Awesome location downtown and very cool ballpark.
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If ever in Denver and Rockies are in town, highly recommend a visit to Coors Field. Awesome location downtown and very cool ballpark.
Was there in 2016, great city and ballpark. Wasn’t a fan of edibles
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only having 1 reliable relief pitcher shouldnt be an issue
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Can they just take Luis Garcia out back and put him out of our misery? He's awful.
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4 f'ing hits tonight! 4! How bad is baseball when these guys are 3 games out of first?
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i dont understand why kapler wont use victor arano
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we've reached the "why dont they use victor arano" point of the season
up next: why cant jesmuel valentin get a look?
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The shtein show alive and well tonight.
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The shtein show alive and well tonight.
OUT on that game. Now doing the "good game roulette" on mlb.tv.
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pricetag on machado keeps going up....why on earth is he singing up to throw 10 years of his career away to hit between scott kingery and nick williams
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pricetag on machado keeps going up....why on earth is he singing up to throw 10 years of his career away to hit between scott kingery and nick williams
Maybe all that credibility the Phillies received when they signed Santana is finally paying off
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my company took us to this game
it was hot
the actually hit...if rhys and odubs are going at the same time, look out 80 wins
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go back to chicago, jake
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I guess this one’s on Jake too.
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need more speeches from jake
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so does hoskins still suck or
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Had no idea Mcnabb pitched for the Brewers
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so does hoskins still suck or
my nephew be hiding
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Any chance we could send Neris to Clearwater to learn how to pitch again?
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i believe he has 1 minor league option left, or so says a quick scan from google, so yes that would make a ton of sense. they need another arm for tomorrow and neris isnt pitching for ~2 days anyway
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NAAAris
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Praise Jesus! Good farging riddance
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Had no idea Mcnabb pitched for the Brewers
That was pretty priceless yesterday. Maybe he saw Hector warming up and lost it.
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rhys and odubs hot = the phillies are good
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Good to see Arano pick right up where Neris left off... :yay
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Send Morgan back to Lehigh. From a cannon.
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Nice hanger Morgan.
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andrew knapp is bad at catching
minor issue being a catcher
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THE PHILLIES!
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TMAC suggested Kapler doesn’t like closers last night.
Krukker replies, really, would he like someone like Aroldis Chapman?
Perfect.
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1. since the string of tough games began, your phillies are 14-16 (not...awful?)
2. phils will miss scherzer this weekend and next weekend
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They’re a 75-80 win team talent-wise. Their “manager” has already cost them at least 5 games, so I’d say they’ve actually overachieved.
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mr. analytics calls for his millionth bunt of the year
in the first inning nonetheless
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TMAC suggested Kapler doesn’t like closers last night.
Krukker replies, really, would he like someone like Aroldis Chapman?
Perfect.
:-D Heard that too and how farging true.
Tommy Hunter on a role with another implosion.
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mr. analytics calls for his millionth bunt of the year
in the first inning nonetheless
you forgot #maga
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sure could have used that extra run in the first...but instead Kapler has odubel who was 10 for his last 23 with four homers bunt with two on and no out
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But advanced metrics!
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sure could have used that extra run in the first...but instead Kapler has odubel who was 10 for his last 23 with four homers bunt with two on and no out
i didnt see that portion of the game, but kapler often has his pitchers swing in normal bunting situations. you sure this wasnt braindead odubel just being braindead odubel
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i mean if that happened then everyone missed it....kapler was even one of the guys at the steps to give him a pat when he come back...although i suppose he could have disagreed with the move and still done that...but as big of an analytics guy he is that would seem weird
also odubel walked right up and did it on the first pitch....yes he could have had the plan in his own mind on the on deck circle but it sure looked like he was sent up to do it
someone said kapler was bunting for a hit to try and take advantage of carpenters fielding deficiencies...which i dont discount but it would be just as stupid as a sacrifice....and im not even a never bunt guy like most seam heads are
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is everyone ready to admit scott kingery sucks or
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is everyone ready to admit scott kingery sucks or
i was laughing my ass off watching wacha basically intentionally walk santana even though its only the third inning knowing that no matter what the situation no one behind santana in the phillies order was going to hurt wacha
kingery - K
nicky dub - weak ground out
inning over
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theres egg on their faces for sure for that contract, but everyone in the media and fanbase was screaming for him to make the team. they deserve some of the blame too.
im just trying to think of a player that has been this dreadful for 3+ months that has gone on to have a really good career. its not like hes been hot here or there. hes been consistently just awful at baseball, and playing out of position to boot
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ive supported klentak in almost everything hes done....not so much in any one individual move or another but in his overarching philosophy of the rebuild....
but now im wondering if he will be the face of this era when it implodes or will kapler be because he stands out more being the everyday manager and how well known his eccentricity is
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the fans by and large have zero idea who klentak is...hes a quiet nerd that says nothing
kapler is reviled by the fanbase and there could easily be a revolt against him. hes first to go.
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People will know who Klentak is after zero big names sign this offseason.
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the fans by and large have zero idea who klentak is...hes a quiet nerd that says nothing
kapler is reviled by the fanbase and there could easily be a revolt against him. hes first to go.
i dont think klentak can fire him after one season....thats HIS guy...
short of some kind of implosion next season like a 30 win first half i think kapler gets minimum another full season
you gotta figure klentak knows this winter is in theory going to be a huge one for the phils (plus another season of young players getting better) so they should be significantly better next season no matter how bad kapler is or isnt...just having a much better roster next year makes kapler a better manager and makes the hire look better for klentak
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also what in the farg happened to arron altherr
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also what in the farg happened to arron altherr
hes a 4th OF performing like a 4th OF
their offense is so bad and they have zero run producers, their margin of error is going to be so thin in every game. thats why people get bent out of shape with the bullpen, but when youre in a lot of 1-2 runs games and you have 1 good reliever, youre going to lose some of those games.
maybe in the 3rd inning with the bases loaded you dont have dopes kingery and williams make outs
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hes definitely better than this
they need to send walding down...not cause i care about the 25th guy on the roster but because i legit feel bad for him....all you are doing at this point is embarrassing him
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im actually curious to see how long this will go on for
legit have zero idea how they won the game, but a real nice win and a real nice series win.
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How has this team won three series in a row? Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.
Seeing Morgan trot out there in the ninth was frightening. Nats, Evil Empire, Nats - nice reality check to the gonads.
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Almost every move Klentak has made has backfired. So yeah, that’s definitely who I want making $400,000,000 worth of personnel decisions in November.
And Kapler should have never been hired in the first place. He has no business managing a big league club.
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Almost every move Klentak has made has backfired. So yeah, that’s definitely who I want making $400,000,000 worth of personnel decisions in November.
And Kapler should have never been hired in the first place. He has no business managing a big league club.
if the season ended today theyd be in the playoffs but yea every move has been a disaster and kapler is horrible
do you actually watch baseball
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How has this team won three series in a row? Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.
bullpen implosions make everything seem way worse than they are....its probably the most painful thing in all of sports to watch...other than a mitch walding AB
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2. phils will miss scherzer this weekend and next weekend
wont he pitch july 1?
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they have an off day june 27 so theoretically they could skip someone and use max then. if your phils play well enough they just might.
and wont that be sad. fiddling with the roatation to put scherz against kingery & the boys
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How has this team won three series in a row? Seems like they've been outscored by 50 runs.
bullpen implosions make everything seem way worse than they are....its probably the most painful thing in all of sports to watch...other than a mitch walding AB
That actually made me laugh out loud! Mitch Walding :-D :-D
And correct, bullpen implosions are hard to stomach.
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romey youll love this headline in the athletic this morning
Position players pitching: Gabe Kapler is on a mission to make it a more accepted tactic
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why would you ever shift on Bryce Harper
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because math
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math doesn’t work against hall of famers
that dumb ass move might have just changed the game
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wow so lucky
he just missed that
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math doesn’t work against hall of famers
hall of famers are hitting .215 in june?
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12-2 tonite. Shut it.
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it gets real easy for them after this 10 game stretch
1-0 so far
if they came out of this 5-5 or better....you gotta get going on a trade or 2
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Nicky pee might be something
and they got him for papledouche who they would have given away for free
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Nicky pee might be something
on queue
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wasn’t 13k but a solid start
he has stuff
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and here comes the pen
although horrid play by Rhys
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This is as painful as it gets
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well that was needed
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Mitch walding at bat alert
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0-7 with seven k and he somehow does the only thing worse than striking out
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Well he finally put a ball into play at least.
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wish he hadn’t
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disgusting
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every time you think 'hey maybe...' they remind you that they arent ready yet
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They scored six runs and the starter got five good innings in before inexplicably being hooked by the stat-addicted manager. And of course he decides to load the bases and pitch to a legit all-star rather than a 19 year old kid because analytics. Again. And the bullpen imploded. Again.
Fix those two issues, get a real 3rd baseman that can scare the shtein out of opposing pitchers and this is a 90 win playoff team.
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that was a strike
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this seems like men vs. boys
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Seems like a $175M team vs a collection of misfits, castoffs and young kids.
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or men vs. boys
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im pretty sure rome just doesn not watch baseball anymore and is just dusting off 15 year old hot takes
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Adam Morgan is not good and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a bigger stadium takeover than tonight
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im going tomorrow for some reason...its going to be disgusting
the biggest stadium takeover ive ever seen was phils/nats 10 nl east clincher. literally every person there was rooting for the phils. and this year the nashville and nawlins roadies are going to be worse.
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Adam Morgan is not good and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a bigger stadium takeover than tonight
Adam Morgan must go and agree, I can't recall CBP ever being taken over like it was last night. That was mind boggling.
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the pearl clutching over the yankee fan thing is more annoying than the yankee fan thing itself
if you care so much go..otherwise whatever
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it was an utter embarrassment....made the mets takeovers look weak
I legit felt bad for the Phillies players
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it was an utter embarrassment....made the mets takeovers look weak
I legit felt bad for the Phillies players
You gonna be alright?
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it's much easier to feign outrage on the internet about something inconsequential than actually do something about it
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Put a better product on the field and sellouts generated by the influx of opposition fans won’t be an issue.
The end.
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hopefully this week will open some eyes there
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Harper AND Machado or BUST.
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Harper AND Machado or BUST.
yup...and a #3 pitcher like Hamels and some bullpen pieces. If they strike out in free agency (romey pun) this offseason it's not gonna be pretty
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lots of grease in that stadium last night.
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Harper AND Machado or BUST.
yup...and a #3 pitcher like Hamels and some bullpen pieces. If WHEN they strike out in free agency (romey pun) this offseason it's not gonna be pretty
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Say they add Machado & Harper. That’s another $70M/yr in payroll for the next 8 years. They could probably backload the dollars, but even then they’d still have more than enough for Colebert and probably several other complementary pieces.
They better hit it hard or there will be a “farg you” revolt especially with the Eagles contending for Super Bowls every year, and the Sixers entering a possible dynastic era.
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Didn’t they get Arrieta specifically for games like tonight?
The offense was non-existent too but still...
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arrieta was a disaster tonight...didnt miss any bats and everything was hard hit. was throwing junk to get guys out. i dont care about the cesar error, yea that was bad but jake has looked like damaged goods this month. ever since he called out his team.
meanwhile severino was just incredible. high 90s, hitting 100 at times. on the corners. first pitch strikes to just about everyone.
phils arent ready for this at all
crowd id say was about 50/50....dork yankees fans there over cheering to try to start shtein.
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Say they add Machado & Harper. That’s another $70M/yr in payroll for the next 8 years. They could probably backload the dollars, but even then they’d still have more than enough for Colebert and probably several other complementary pieces.
They better hit it hard or there will be a “farg you” revolt especially with the Eagles contending for Super Bowls every year, and the Sixers entering a possible dynastic era.
you know people are joking about getting both...there’s very little chance they get either
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arrieta was a disaster tonight...
meanwhile severino was just incredible.
phils arent ready for this at all
crowd id say was about 50/50....dork yankees fans there over cheering to try to start shtein.
Yes on the first three comments. Arrieta is bad right now, hope he can fix this. Severino was amazing last night and so true, Bums a ways away from the big boys show.
Ok, help the dumb Hawaiian here. Where are these Yankee fans coming from? Are they coming down from NYC/Northern Jersey/Long Island? Are they South Jersey/Delco meatheads (same A holes that cheer for the Cowboys and Lakers)? I'm assuming its the former as this other than the Mets is the easiest road trip for them.
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Who taught Eflin how to pitch? He's been stellar this month.
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they told him to watch jake arrieta and do the opposite
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Arrieta never wanted to set foot in Philly. The only reason he’s there is because his pimp daddy got a contract for him that no one else would offer.
He’s Nnamdi Asomugha.
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and he came from a team that has more money than god
the stupid thing about that deal is that arrieta had been steadily getting worse for the last three years....what the farg would make them think he was going to start getting better again at age 32
at least its only three years and its not my money
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its june 28 and the phillies are 2.5 out of the division and 1 game out of the playoffs
when their string of games against playoff caliber teams started, they were 8 games over .500. they are now 6 games over .500.
for the life of me, i have zero idea why there is so much negativity from the fanbase toward them. theyve been miserably bad and essentially irrelevant for 5 years.
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Probably some combination of the exciting Eagle and Sixers seasons, the lack of star power, Rhys Hoskins playing like a normal human being, plus the growing realization that no star is coming to this team in the offseason.
Statistically Arietta is virtually the same guy he was last year. Maybe the solid beginning to his season tricked people into thinking he was the guy from 2015?
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Probably some combination of the exciting Eagle and Sixers seasons, the lack of star power, Rhys Hoskins playing like a normal human being, plus the growing realization that no star is coming to this team in the offseason.
the season is 3 months old. hoskins was really bad for 1 month and really good for 2. but hes not an mvp candidate so farg him? i dont get that.
also buster and a few other guys have the phils as the favs for machado. i dont understand where the "they have no shot at him" thing is coming from. just typical philadelphia victimhood.
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another problem is baseball has become almost unwatchable...the phillies have what should be an exciting team if nothing else because of the youth but even a team like that is boring as shtein with the way the game is today
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I’m not watching as much because I don’t have 4 hours a night to waste on watching this team. That’s just me personally. I watch them if Nola is pitching. Otherwise I just watch the “highlights.”
That’s pretty much what I do with every team unless it’s the Birds playing. I can do three hours a week, but the other teams just take up too much of my time.
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i watch them all the time....im just saying thats a part of the reason theres no buzz
also if rhys hoskins is your "star" player then you better get some more stars...not that he isnt good but hes so zzzzzzzzz
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And by the way... it’s not victimhood. It’s just the reality of having superior destinations available to the finite number of elite players that will be on the market.
New York, Los Angeles, Chicago... all better than Philly. I know Middleton has his cancer stick billions to offer, but the fact is the Phillies (and Philly itself) aren’t as attractive as other places. Acknowledging that is not being negative... just realistic.
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you dont watch them but youve got some hot takes on them. good to know.
quick heads up: LA doesnt have a spot for machado and neither does chicago. the yankees are certainly conceivable but it seems less realistic given how well didi is doing there, how good torres is going to be and how much $ they are giving stanton and will have to give judge, sanchez and severino.
the phils main competition for machado, money wise, are like the white sox and cardinals. ive been saying this for years but theyre not going to be outbid for manny. if he wants to go ny he will go, but the phils have been prepping for this for 3-4 years. their offer is going to be stupid.
another problem is baseball has become almost unwatchable...the phillies have what should be an exciting team if nothing else because of the youth but even a team like that is boring as shtein with the way the game is today
this is somewhat valid though it has not resulted in a lack of buzz or interest in the yankees, dodgers, astros, etc. who all play a similar style. big difference, of course, is they have superstars where as they phillies do not.
im not necessarily referring to a lack of buzz though. given how putrid they were, theyre not going to get everyone back overnight. its more that there is an enormous amount of visceral anger at kapler, klentak, the pen, odubel, etc. yea, over the course of 162 games there are going to be bad moments and such. but overall theyve been doing better than any realistic projection and are playing meaningful games into july. its been 6 years since thats been the case. thats what i dont get.
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baseball is boring as farg the end.
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baseball is boring as farg the end.
yeah, but, but WARP !!
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It’s VORP, Mr. Spock.
Sheesh.
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WARP stands for Wins Above Replacement Player. The term and concept are borrowed from sabermetrics and, specifically, Baseball Prospectus.
go drink your ensure, romey.
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Warp this.
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Warp this.
pics plz
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Hoskins !!
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tommy hunter is a fat piece of shtein
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Nola is an assassin. Good shtein last night.
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Holy Hector Neris! Train wreck, shtein show, doesn't do justice to how bad he is. Dude just gave up 3 home runs in one inning.
He'd better be on suicide watch tonight.
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Pretty amazing play by VV after getting hit by the line drive. Arm's probably broken, though... that was flush.
EDIT: Apparently he's not dead. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/vince-velasquez-philadelphia-phillies-great-believing-right-arm-broken-injury-washington-nationals)
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Nice win by the Phils today. Maybe they don't suck as bad as we thought.
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They’re mediocre as farg. But occasionally they win games and series like this and that’s great. It’s better than watching them lose a hundy every year. But the difference between this team and a legit winner is as evident as it will ever get.
And something struck me today as I was watching the highlights. I couldn’t put my finger on it until today but then it hit me:
Jake Arrieta is Kevin Millwood reincarnated.
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anymore opinions you have about something you dont pay attention to or watch
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Your mom definitely should have swallowed you.
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Was it the heat or a big holiday week coming up but why did CBP look empty today?
It's July and I'm scoreboard watching, this hot mess is keeping me interested.
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As Manny Machado’s world turns:
*The Baltimore Orioles want to act sooner rather than later, knowing they almost certainly will receive a greater return if they trade Machado with approximately three months of control remaining instead of two, major league sources say.
The pace of the talks has accelerated in recent days, according to one source, but are the Orioles even capable of acting quickly? A team that reaches a tentative agreement with Dan Duquette, the Orioles’ executive vice-president of baseball operations, might be at only step one of the process.
One industry person familiar with the Orioles’ operation says any club negotiating with Duquette also will need to be in contact with Brady Anderson, the team’s VP of baseball operations. Anderson exerts considerable influence within the organization, working closely with the sons of owner Peter Angelos, John and Lou.
*The Orioles visit the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday and Wednesday, giving Machado a chance to showcase himself to the former O’s executives now running the Phillies — and to the hungry Philadelphia ownership.
The conventional wisdom is that the Phillies do not want to trade top prospects for Machado when they can simply sign him as a free agent after the season. But the Phils, who just won three of four from the Washington Nationals, are not likely to fade anytime soon — their next 16 games are against sub-.500 clubs.
The question, for every club interested in Machado, is the acquisition cost. Would the Phillies, for example, be willing to part with shortstop J.P. Crawford, a favorite of GM Matt Klentak, without knowing whether they could sign Machado long-term?
The Orioles are thought to like Crawford. The Phils value him so highly that they traded Freddy Galvis, the major league leader in defensive runs saved, to create an opening at shortstop. But Crawford, who is on the disabled list a second time and batting just .194, continues to elicit mixed opinions within the industry.
*If the Los Angeles Dodgers acquired Machado to play shortstop, they almost certainly would need to trade an outfielder — probably center fielder Joc Pederson — to clear a spot for the displaced Chris Taylor.
The Dodgers are deep in outfielders, and all of their regulars have increased their values since the start of the season. Pederson has as many extra-base hits (27) as strikeouts against right-handed pitching. Yasiel Puig has a .912 OPS since coming off the DL on May 9. Matt Kemp is likely to be an All-Star starter and a leading candidate for Comeback Player of the Year. Oh, and for good measure, Andrew Toles and Alex Verdugo are performing well at Triple A.
Part of the Dodgers’ motivation for playing Max Muncy at second base is to keep him in the lineup along with all three of their outfielders as well as Cody Bellinger at first. The team’s greater need is pitching — one rival executive predicts the Dodgers will acquire controllable relievers and/or bargain relievers right at the deadline. But Machado is too big a potential upgrade to simply ignore.
*The Arizona Diamondbacks and Cleveland Indians might be the teams most motivated to trade for Machado — the D-Backs because their competitive window is starting to close, the Indians because their title drought will reach 70 years if they fail to win the World Series this season.
The Milwaukee Brewers are doing their due diligence on Machado, but likely will be unwilling to meet the Orioles’ asking price, according to sources. The Chicago Cubs, viewed as an early favorite, would appear to have a less urgent need with Addison Russell surging both offensively and defensively.
No team is the favorite for Machado at this point, not when one text or phone call can change everything. The Orioles also are busy on other fronts, aggressively trying to move right-handed reliever Brad Brach, according to one rival club. Lefty reliever Zach Britton and center fielder Adam Jones, potential free agents like Machado, are among their other trade candidates.
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i went last night to see manny and can exclusively report he is sexy af
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4th of July, 3 measly hits against a team that has clearly quit, basically one “star” on this team in
Nola, 1.5 games out, Braves in first, Nats falling, i’m stone sober so please explain.
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the phillies are 10 games above .500 and the nats are seven games out
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4th of July, 3 measly hits against a team that has clearly quit, basically one “star” on this team in
Nola, 1.5 games out, Braves in first, Nats falling, i’m stone sober so please explain.
really good starting pitching, just enough hitting and 1 very good relief pitcher. oh and analytics.
but perhaps the biggest difference is chemistry. phils like coming to work, nats dont. nats are significantly more talented.
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Also the National League is currently reliving a modified version* of the dead ball era, so if your mental construct of what a top team looks like involves a murderers' row of offensive players bashing the ball all over the park, it's time to revise that.
* Homers are as important as ever, but base hits are being snuffed out.
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bear in mind most of the people here havent watched baseball in 7 years and are really old
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first place phils but wish the nats had lost
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the nats are in the same place as the mets....who cares
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you will when they win the division
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if they win the division itll be because the phils and or braves collapsed (distinct possibility). your squad is a farce...phils do their thing they have zero to worry about
focus on atl
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the phils have a thing?
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its july 7 and they are in 1st
so yes
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im sure youve told me but what is it again?
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also this social media craziness over the length of the game is everything bad about internet nerds in a nutshell....mother fargers it was a 22 run game...how would that ever not take forever...and the phillies moved into first and your lead is that the game was long as farg??
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its beat writers irritated...they drove all day to pitt, got to the park at 3 and wont get out of there until after midnight. i get it, ive been there, but it wouldnt be a thing without twitter.
im sure youve told me but what is it again?
good starting pitching, taking pitches, seranthony
tonight they did 1/3 extroadinarily well
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whats so ridiculous about their complaints is that they and fans are the first ones to bitch about a 4-3 game taking three hours and fifteen minutes
but a game with 22 total runs taking four plus is the worst thing ever?
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Kruk made me laugh at least a half dozen times last night. That was a great game and the fact that it was the longest nine inning game in Phils history made it kinda cool to watch.
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they look more and more like a legit good team every game
do nothing for 6.2 innings - string together a few hits - win
i keep going back to the kingery contract. its not something they wanted to do but admitted that scott 'forced their hand' with his play in the spring. team might be doing the same here.
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they are mostly garbage but so are must other teams and the few good teams around have either been injured and or haven’t locked in quite yet
I’ll still be shocked if the nats don’t win the division
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the nats are in a real bad place right now...if the marlins werent a AAA team it couldve been worse
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Nola is it. Not really surprising. Oddball had a minor case.
It’s amazing how much this team has accomplished with so little legit talent.
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It’s amazing how much this team has accomplished with so little legit talent.
theres a lot of teams like this...im by no means saying the phillies suck and the say braves or brewers are awesome....theres a lot of bad teams in the NL and the teams that should be good have struggled for major portions of the first half
the AL on the other hand is farging stacked
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has asdrubal ever gotten out against the Phillies as a member of the Mets?
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Eflin pitched his ass off again. He’s legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy.
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2 men on no outs in the tenth and they get blanked. That was game. I hate double headers.
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Eflin pitched his ass off again. He’s legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy.
he wasn’t awful but he was also far from great
problem was in the two huge spots they had to use jesmul valentine and Dylan cozens
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I posted this last summer and it’s even more true now...it’s almost uncanny
when nola is on like this he looks exactly like greg maddux
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Eflin pitched his ass off again. He’s legit even if the Mets are a goddamn dumpster orgy.
uhh bro...3 runs in 5 innings.
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I’ll still be shocked if the nats don’t win the division
another brilliant effort tonight
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i know whats cool to do in a sport with a 162 games....post every night someone loses or wins
ill be back tonight if the nats win and especially if the phillies also lose
its a marathon not a sprint...usually the better team wins....if the nats pitching doesnt improve especially when strasburg returns and they dont make a run and win the division ill be shocked....really if the braves or phillies win the division everyone should be
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over half the season has been played and the nats are a broken down geriatric farce
baseball is a young mans game now...but im sure theyll turn it around!
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Mike Mike is heating up and a nice outing from the AAA kid.
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mike has been hot for almost a month
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romey's been too busy being a soccer fan to notice.
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Mostly girl on girl action. But soccer too.
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i dont give a farg about the game itself but i wanna know how that dump of stadium in dc gets an all star game before the bank....the nats werent even a team when the bank was built
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2026 is a shoo-in for Philly.
Plus, who cares. It’s a farging beer-league exhibition that no one cares about anymore.
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its great for the city both monetarily and puts it in the national spotlight for a minute
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romey has zero connection to philly...he just likes the sports teams. or a sports team. hes from the shore and the swamp of florida.
but he did mention the correct thing! phils want 2026 and have been waiting for that. of course that is the same year as the world cup in the usa and naturally the asg will be swallowed up by it.
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I was born there and lived there for a quarter century. But sure, no connection. Clown.
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2026 has nothing to do with not having had it yet....no one was thinking about 2026 in 04 or 05...it came up a few years ago....i wonder if this is the longest a new baseball stadium has ever gone without getting the game
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2026 has nothing to do with not having had it yet....no one was thinking about 2026 in 04 or 05
this is the opposite of the truth.
the phillies havent bid on the asg because they wanted it secured for 2026. otherwise they wouldve gotten it by now.
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The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996. No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium.
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The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996. No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium.
hmmm that might be a good point...i forgot about 96....i wonder with the influx of new stadiums if anyone has had two all star games in an unusually short amount of time because of a new stadium
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i dont see any examples but i didnt look terribly hard....i did notice the match up bwtn the two leagues all time is tied at 43-43
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The Bank opened in 2003 and the Phils last hosted it in 1996. No chance they were getting one that soon regardless if they had a new stadium.
pittsburgh got in 94 and 06
again. this was 100% about the phils wanting 2026. they are then going to wait for 2076, with perhaps 1 in between if we're not all cyborgs by then.
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I’ll be 111 then, so yes for the cyborg option.
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Tremendous effort by VV tonight. Too bad the offense couldn't get one in for him.
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How do Phillies fans take over an away stadium on a Thursday for a one game series. I get the Orioles attendance is bad but still impressive.
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cause me and the lil guy were there?
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can confirm
also can confirm phils are dangling medina to the o's for manny....not sure why it took this long to offer him
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what a disgraceful wasted opportunity
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^^yep^^
lead off man on base 4 times today and el zilcho.
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Sorry. I screwed them over by being there.
Crowd at first pitch. It did grow a bit larger. Miami traffic sucks.
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You didn't sit way out there did you?
I was surprised at the noise level in the latter innings by the Miami fans.
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The view wasn't bad from our seats. And it was a Philly-dominated section.
I did, however, want to run on the field and smack Franco upside the head when he handed the fair ball to the fan.
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odubel has a 260 obp since the end of may
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Hail Caesar
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Four straight hard hit balls and now a hits batsman.
And here comes dickface suntan.
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Nice job not knowing how many outs you have, Santana you fat pos.
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First place at All-Star break, puzzled but happy.
Can't be shteintin' the bed against teams like the Marlins.
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friday:
cesar-MANNY-odubel-rhys-los-nick-georgy-mike
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friday:
cesar-MANNY-odubel-rhys-los-nick-georgy-mike
this is not the dodgers lineup
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dodgers can afford to offer a lot more as they have a good chance to lock him up long term...phillies have almost no chance
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The Phillies are going to go for broke. Klentak has the tobacco pimp breathing down his neck now and money is no object either.
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dodgers have more money and more importantly he wants to play in LA
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dodgers can afford to offer a lot more as they have a good chance to lock him up long term...phillies have almost no chance
not exactly
first off machado, when he signs, will sign to be a ss. corey seager is their ss.
next you have to project the dodgers payroll not only for next year but for 2020 and beyond. they are going to keep paying kershaw 30+. seager gets expensive next year. bellinger the year after that. the owe justin turner 40 mil. jasen is owed 20 the next 3 years. they dont want to take their payroll too far over the luxury tax - lets call that 190. they are 130 already next year.
not saying they cant afford machado or that he wont love it there, but its not that easy. the phillies have zero committments to anyone important and can write him a blank check. they can offer him ss. its not a lock.
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he doesn’t want to go to the Phillies...it’s why the dodgers can give up more for him cause they know in all likelihood he will sign with them....in fact wouldn’t shock me if they have the framework in place...he’s already told people and it’s well known he wants to play in LA so even if somehow the Phillies offered more money and that’s most likely not going to happen he would take a little less to go to LA...honestly probably 50/50 if he even makes it to the open market if he gets traded to the dodgers
also position literally means nothing in the big picture no team is losing a free agent of that caliber because of position...they will just moved Seager somewhere else if manny insists on SS and I don’t know that he puts the dodgers in that predictament like he would the Phillies for example
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if he is 10000% signing with the dodgers than there is literally no point in even attempting to trade for him
but it isnt
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its not 100% he signs with the dodgers...but to your point while its not 100% there is very little chance he signs with the phillies and so as much as i love him i agree there is no point in the phillies getting involved other than some good but not great offers just to see what the market is
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So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?
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So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?
eddie escobar is the best middle infield bat out there....nick castellanos is the best overall hitter out there...donaldson and moustakas are lower risk power bats. then theres your bullpen arms like hand and britton.
just give up the franchise for trout...why not.
its not 100% he signs with the dodgers...but to your point while its not 100% there is very little chance he signs with the phillies and so as much as i love him i agree there is no point in the phillies getting involved other than some good but not great offers just to see what the market is
they offered medina but balked at sixto and jhaylin, which i get. solid offer but the dodgers one was better.
again the phillies are not going to be outbid on manny and im really not sure if hes a perfect fit in LA. they will be in the mix for him.
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So what's up next? A needless Hamels trade to try to get fans to come to the ballpark, plus some cheap relievers, followed by flailing around in the offseason when Manny reups with the Dodgers?
I’d like Hamels back because it’s a great story and yes they should focus on finding a middle reliever. I don’t think Machado signs a new deal without testing free agency. I wanted him but I’m glad the Phillies didn’t part with legit controllable talent for a possible one year rental. To be honest I doubt we get Manny or Bryce, I think Trouts a Phillie come 2020. This is where he wants to be. For now I’m willing to trust the Process. They’re in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.
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They’re in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.
since when did you provide rational takes
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They’re in 1st place and have a lot of developing talent.
since when did you provide rational takes
No choice at this point. They missed the boat on everyone (as predicted). They're not signing anyone this offseason. They'll be outbid. Trout 2020.
I'd like to see them add a BP arm before the deadline and I'll go with the who the hell knows option if they make the playoffs. Nola is a stud, Arrieta has playoff experience, maybe they get timely hitting and Kapler doesn't overmanage and they make some noise.
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I’m glad they didn’t give up the farm for Machado. At least someone over there is using his head for a change.
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And there is no chance they’ll be outbid. A guy may take less money but if it comes down to that and that alone, they’ll win the bid.
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No choice at this point. They missed the boat on everyone (as predicted). They're not signing anyone this offseason. They'll be outbid. Trout 2020.
I'd like to see them add a BP arm before the deadline and I'll go with the who the hell knows option if they make the playoffs. Nola is a stud, Arrieta has playoff experience, maybe they get timely hitting and Kapler doesn't overmanage and they make some noise.
first off its trout 2021. second theyll sign SOMEONE. they might not get manny or bryce but they have money to spend and last time i checked people like money.
as for this season they are still in the mix for the nl east. i dont see it happening but its not unattainable. even with manny i give them little to no shot in the playoffs. nola and arrieta would have to pitch out of their minds.
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"Someone" is the likes of Carlos Santana to which I say no thanks, I'd rather see what one of the young bucks can do. As for Trout, the Angels will trade him before he reaches free agency to maximize return so I stick by 2020.
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total trump move there...errr i wasnt wrong what i meant to say was _____
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total trump move there...errr i wasnt wrong what i meant to say was _____
I would agree with you there
wouldn't
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"This is about 2018 for us. We hope he plays well and creates a good market for himself."
dodgers gm
but DURRR manny isnt leaving la
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like hes going to say anything about his free agency in july when they are about to start the second half of a season that is world series or bust
not a chance they gave up 5 prospects and diaz being one of them with no intention of keeping him
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lol Freddy galvis working the phils
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i know everyone hates the bb-k-hr nature of the game but tonight is why it matters so much...arrieta cant miss bats and his asking for this kind of thing all the time
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I personally don't hate it. It's just boring in comparison to how it's supposed to be played.
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how is baseball supposed to be played? are players supposed to intentially ground out or something
its not like runs per game are going in a wild direction...its just that more outs are being recorded via strikeout than before and more runs are being scored via homers. but people like dingers.
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Strikeouts are awful. They’re almost 100% useless. Watching batters who are unable to put the ball into play is mind-numbingly horrible and that’s also the primary reason why the games are so long.
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dont happen often but romey is on point
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Romey is always right. If you accept that and live your life accordingly, you’ll be a blissful motherfarger.
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this tiger thing really might happen?
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dont happen often but romey is on point
Strikeouts are awful. They’re almost 100% useless. Watching batters who are unable to put the ball into play is mind-numbingly horrible and that’s also the primary reason why the games are so long.
not exacty. games are longer because of: pitches thrown per game, time inbetween pitches and commercial breaks in between innings. on the whole each of these things by themselves isnt a significant enough of factor, but combined they contribute to it.
a byproduct of more pitches is more strikeouts (and more walks), so romey was on the right path, sort of.
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gelb just tweeted that los is leading off in game two
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their lineup is a complete disgrace
borderline fireable offense for klentak and kap
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I heard the ball Myers hit in game one just landed on 95
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Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
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Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin
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Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin
I was actually surprised to hear Walding was in the lineup today, because I thought he was back in the minors.
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Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin
lol
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Why in the ever loving farg is Valentin still in the major leagues?
i think you mean walding....or altherr...but also valentin
I was actually surprised to hear Walding was in the lineup today, because I thought he was back in the minors.
they brought up walding due to some roster manipulation with eflin being on the dl. he will be sent down after the game since zach is starting tomorrow. usually have 4 bench bats but hes the 5th since they have they extra roster spot. walding and cuzzo are the lone bats on the 40 man.
you asked
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SAD!
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they get swept in this series right?
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"All signs point to yes"
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ODH's throw home last night on the Doyers go ahead run was a disgrace to anyone who has played center field in the big leagues. Ever. Candy ass
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Surprised at the amount of Doyers fans at CBP last night.
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they get swept in this series right?
before the week started i said id be thrilled with 3-4 but expecting worse
dodgers are much better than them and cinci is a bad matchup
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The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies don’t. That’s really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.
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Dodgers lineup is far superior to the Phils, even without Manny and that sexy hairdo.
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The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies don’t. That’s really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.
the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.
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The Dodgers did go to the World Series last year, while last year's Phils couldn't have made the Little League World Series.
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the dodgers are so deep, too. most of their bench players would start for the phillies.
additionally: jorge alfaro is a maddening player but he has an elite arm and THAT kind of power
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the dodgers are so deep, too. most of their bench players would start for the phillies.
additionally: jorge alfaro is a maddening player but he has an elite arm and THAT kind of power
Point A - so true, they have always had one of the best farm systems in all of baseball. It is amazing how they keep finding these gems year after year.
Point B - why in God's name did that fat ass swing at that first pitch, dude pitching was all over the place, take a few.
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Enough with the Chase slop fest. Good God! First ovation was fine but stop already. Grit scores the winning run these dick rods might just storm the field and carry him off.
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I have a feeling this is going to be a long second half. Their offense just isn't good enough.
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so one of the worst teams in baseball last year isnt going to make the playoffs this year? err ma god
cant people just enjoy this...theyre good again...theyre a year ahead of schedule....house money 2nd half
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Well that was fun! 6 hours of baseball, really enjoyed it.
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The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies don’t. That’s really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.
the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.
Both teams have 56 wins a hundred games into the season. I’m sure you’ll explain how that’s a limited sample size or that you can’t judge a team’s actual value by their record.
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so one of the worst teams in baseball last year isnt going to make the playoffs this year? err ma god
cant people just enjoy this...theyre good again...theyre a year ahead of schedule....house money 2nd half
This has been a very good year for Philly sports as far as exceeding expectations
Birds
Sixers won 52 and made it to the 2nd. Most of us had them winning 40 and getting bounced in the 1st.
Flyers were decent and made the playoffs. Looked semi competent for stretches of the season
Phillies are relevant heading into August. Can't ask for much more from this squad.
I was proud of myself for making it to the 13th inning before passing out.
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The Dodgers have Manny and the Phillies don’t. That’s really the difference maker because otherwise both teams are the definition of meh.
the dodgers are really good. you dont watch baseball. stop.
Both teams have 56 wins a hundred games into the season. I’m sure you’ll explain how that’s a limited sample size or that you can’t judge a team’s actual value by their record.
the dodgers were horrible in april....there was legit talk of them selling. seager was hurt. so was kershaw. jansen was blowing saves. the ship was righted. they traded for machado. kershaw is back. they are the team to beat in the nl and will likely have the most wins by game 162.
them having the same wins as the phillies in late july means nothing. the dodgers are better. the fact that the phils are playing with them is impressive.
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Ranger Suarez will end the Phillies’ 267-game streak of not having a left-handed starting pitcher when he makes his major-league debut Thursday in Cincinnati against the Reds.
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The Dodgers are the best 56 win team after 100 games ever.
The Phillies, on the other hand...
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Jim Jackson on the radio: "A drive to right field... but it's shallow."
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That was some clutch hitting by Santana. Down 0-2 and fights back to hit a base clearing triple
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phillie PH this season are hitting .213 and its only 18th worst in baseball
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lol arrieta clearly throws a ball on strike three to kemp and it was obvious with the eye but then they did the pitch track box and it still said ball and mccarthy says "well it was close to the line"
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I’m watching at work.
GUBMINT
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That was close
I understand matchups and all that bullshtein but Morgan was throwing very well, no reason to put SAD in in that situation.
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omg mccarthy just said "this will be the last half inning we get to see chase until maybe the postseason"
HES NOT IN THE fargING GAME
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That was close
I understand matchups and all that bullshtein but Morgan was throwing very well, no reason to put SAD in in that situation.
and so it is, only july 25, someone advocates for adam morgan over seranthony dominguez
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The Dodger juggernaut lost two of three to the little engine that won’t.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?
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because its july and the dodgers dont care and the phillies do
the 2010 phillies were swept in a 4 gamer by the tanking astros. i guess the astros were better.
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pretty much that
kudos to the phillies for winning the series but there was a 7-6 four hour game and a 16 inning six plus hour game....as true as a 162 game regular season is any random three game baseball series is equally untrue and there are 20 things each series that could have gone either way to turn it for one team
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I enjoyed watching them play during this series. They hit a bunch of homers, which appears to be the only way they can actually score since manufacturing runs via non-dingers is out.
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So you’re saying anything could have happened because anything can, in fact, happen?
That’s pretty Zen, bro.
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that and the dodgers didnt care enough to use a SP yesterday...the phillies did. then today the dodgers were in the get the farg gone mode, the phils were ready to ball.
when you make the playoffs every year you dont care about throwing away 2 games in july to some whatever team. when youre tasting tit for the first time you are rock hard for these spots.
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They hit a bunch of homers
Again.
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this place.
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Our house... in the middle of the street,
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Ken Rosenthal
Twitter › Ken_Rosenthal
#Phillies acquiring Asdrubal Cabrera from #Mets for Double A RHP Franklyn Kilomé, sources tell The Athletic.
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Whoa. That’s a solid pickup there.
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I don’t like giving up Kilome but they addressed a definite need and added some flexibility. Get another bullpen arm without giving too much up and make a run. They’re not elite talent wise but they have good starting pitching, timely hitting in spurts, and power. So let’s do this.
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The trade makes sense for both teams. Not a whole lot to criticize here.
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The trade makes sense for both teams. Not a whole lot to criticize here.
Todd and havas will be along shortly
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Cabrera is a nice player. He instantly upgrades SS plus he can spell Cesar at second too. I’m not crazy about giving up great prospects but Kilome’ isn’t one of them.
Cabrera helps them now, and if the Phils are gonna get Manny, they’re going to have to have more to offer than just a pile of cash. A winning team or even a playoff squad gives them something extra to point to if LA lets him out of the building in the off-season.
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Ken Rosenthal
Twitter › Ken_Rosenthal
#Phillies acquiring Asdrubal Cabrera from #Mets for Double A RHP Franklyn Kilomé, sources tell The Athletic.
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cabrera can certainly hit the question is defense. where does he play. his range isnt good, which is a bit of an issue for ss. thats your biggest offensive need. id imagine they try him at ss and see how it goes. if he bad he shuffles between rf and 3b or just acts as a very good pinch hitter.
kilome was passed by others in the org and really projects as a bottom of the rotation starter or middle reliever. theres a chance, of course, he tops that and such a thing will not be good since hes on the mets. but a decent bet to make that he wont come back to get them.
in the mean time, cabrera is a significant improvement for their team now.
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10 straight minutes
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kilome ceiling is as high as anyone’s he could a top rotation guy or a great closet if he can ever get his mechanics straight and be able to repeat them
it’s a definite overpay for Cabrera but not a super egregious one
also here come the nats
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2 wins over the marlins
watch out everyone
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Apparently they’re interested in Joey Gallo
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Don't know what I think about that. I know Gallo has power and takes walks... but he can't even get on the right side of the Mendoza line.
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Seems like a weird fit. I also can't imagine the Rangers letting him go for a price I'd be willing to pay for a long term project.
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kilome ceiling is as high as anyone’s he could a top rotation guy or a great closet if he can ever get his mechanics straight and be able to repeat them
it’s a definite overpay for Cabrera but not a super egregious one
also here come the nats
Hilarious even for you.
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2 wins over the marlins
watch out everyone
This was more comforting before the Phils dropped 3 in a row to a team as bad as the Marlins.
Luckily the Braves and Nats aren't doing a lot of winning lately either.
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Everyone knew this was coming just surprised it took this long
so glad they gave up Frankie for that pos met
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before the week started i said id be thrilled with 3-4 but expecting worse
dodgers are much better than them and cinci is a bad matchup
welp
good thing im going to boston to seem them. maybe assdrubel cabrera will get a hit before mitch walding does
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They’re a weird team, I can see them sweeping the sox then losing 3 out of 4 to the Marlins.
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theres been a few times this year where youve figured the bottom is going to drop out, so you cant write them off after 3 poor games against a team that has been essentially as good as them as since late april (go look up the records).
but i would be floored if they swept the sox or really even won a game. boston is other worldly good
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Bums split in bean town we all need to celebrate with champagne. Boston is playing in another solar system right now.
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pitching matchups are pretty favorable....they have a shot at one with nola (albeit vs. price) tonight and arrieta pomeranz tomorrow
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Anxious to see how Nola and Arrieta do against this freak show.
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it’s difficult to put into words just how bad Scott kingery is
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Try
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Or how dumb ODH is.
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Great base running you farging idiots
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ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet.
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That was pretty funny.
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You have to admit these guys put the fun in fundamentals.
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fargdamentals
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ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet.
Did Shane Victorino retire?
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ODH has got to be the dumbest baseball player on the planet.
Did Shane Victorino retire?
Pineapple head was good for a boner once or twice a week. ODH can be counted on for at least two a game.
Speaking of Pineapple Head did you see all the alumni coming back for his retirement?
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Don't know how many of you have been to Fenway but when I was in school at UNH we'd make the hour drive down to Boston 5 or 6 times a year to go to Red Sox games. Get in for like $4 after the fourth inning and it was sit where ever you wanted. The place looks like a shtein hole from the street but the minute you walk in and see that green monster and the field it hits you like a ton of bricks - the history, the mystique, the aura, truly amazing. My last year there was 1987 so I was there in 86 and it was crazy. One out, one strike away and BOOM!
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Wasted opportunities. Story of this game.
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Why in the fargity farg are they putting in Hunter?
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Hunter? Good night fellas.
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(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/geowhizzer/Whiff.gif)
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Speaking of Pineapple Head did you see all the alumni coming back for his retirement?
yeah....I’m going
Don't know how many of you have been to Fenway but when I was in school at UNH we'd make the hour drive down to Boston 5 or 6 times a year to go to Red Sox games. Get in for like $4 after the fourth inning and it was sit where ever you wanted. The place looks like a shtein hole from the street but the minute you walk in and see that green monster and the field it hits you like a ton of bricks - the history, the mystique, the aura, truly amazing. My last year there was 1987 so I was there in 86 and it was crazy. One out, one strike away and BOOM!
I’ve been twice in the last seven years...it’s a complete and utter dump with none of the charm that wrigley has in spades
no matter who wins this game it has been fantastic for an almost august baseball game
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Garcia = White Flag
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if the Phillies somehow make the playoffs I could see them getting swept and scoring less than five runs in the series
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You mean 2007?
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Phils get...
Wilson Ramos from the Rays.
Edit: For cash or a player to be named. (https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-acquire-wilson-ramos-upgrade-catching-staff-185315713.html)
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Phils get...
Wilson Ramos from the Rays.
https://www.mlb.com/news/wilson-ramos-traded-to-phillies/c-288192622
Like it. Knapp is horrible.
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Phils get...
Wilson Ramos from the Rays.
https://www.mlb.com/news/wilson-ramos-traded-to-phillies/c-288192622
Like it. Knapp is horrible.
It will be nice to actually have a catcher who doesn't swing so freaking hard that his helmet comes off every damn at bat. And can actually catch pitches.
Alfaro's got tools, but has a lot to learn. Knapp should be fired from a cannon.
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Phils get...
Aaron Loup from the Blue Jays.
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always good to get a lefty reliever who isnt very good against lefties
the ramos move was an absolute steal
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Looks like Kleintak is trying to add without dipping too far in to the system.
I agree, Ramos (if he can get healthy relatively quickly) is a good add. Improves the offense, and more importantly the defense at the catching position.
Not sure I get adding Loup. He's having a terrible season. Not sure I want Tommy Hunter's reflection added to the bullpen.
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Wait what?!?
They got Ramos for freaking cash? That can’t be right.
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Just checked it. I’ll be damned. Does Tampa have the next Johnny Bench in waiting?
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from tampas standpoint hes gonna be 31 is always hurt and is a free agent.....he doesnt fit there at all
from the phillies standpoint hes not going to be playing for them until possibly september and is a free agent who they will not be resigning
the cost was clearly going to be low but tampa is not even going to get a top 30 phillie prospect
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Obviously they’re going to activate him before September 1st just in case they’re still in a pennant race. I think this is a kick in the pants for Alfaro and Knapp who’ve been just ok. Getting a veteran in there to push the kids is a good thing. At the very least they’ll have someone who’s been there and done that for a long time to learn from. And for nothing more than cash too. It’s a no-lose situation.
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it’s not a matter of activating him...his hammy is jacked up...earliest he shows up is middle August but hammys are tricky and his has already delayed his return once
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?
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you are talking about activating him before September 1 like he’s being called up
he’s hurt
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What is wrong with you? When a player returns to the active roster from the DL, he’s been activated.
When a player joins the major league roster from the minors, thats referred to as a “call up.”
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All I can say is "Dear Wilson, get well, get well soon, we want you to get well"
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What is wrong with you? When a player returns to the active roster from the DL, he’s been activated.
When a player joins the major league roster from the minors, thats referred to as a “call up.”
He doesn't have to be activated to be eligible for the postseason:
(a) PLAYERS ELIGIBLE.
(1) Major League Roster Players. To be eligible to play for a Major League Club in a Wild Card Game, Division Series, League Championship Series, or the World Series, a player must
(A) have been on a Major League Active, Disabled, Bereavement / Family Medical Emergency, Paternity, Suspended or Military List of such Major League Club as of Midnight Eastern Time on August 31, or on such date be under control, but on optional assignment, or on assignment from another Major League organization and not yet reported...
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shtein ass AB by Hernandez
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Obviously they’re going to activate him before September 1st just in case they’re still in a pennant race.
this is what im referring to....makes absolutely zero sense
they arent "obviously" going to do anything....when he can play he will play whether its next week or september 18th...
september first is irrelevant when it comes to an injury....you have to be on the active roster by september first to be eligible for the postseason....he obviously is already on the active roster
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yea havas is right in this...kyle schwarber tore his acl in the first game of the season 2 years ago. he came back in the world series. you just have to be on the 40 man, hurt or otherwise.
anyway fenway was fun. i was an idiot yelling 41-33 and having loud trolly conversations about tom bradys lack of ball security. all in all good time. sat 2nd row in front of the rf pole for game 1, up in lf for game 2.
great scene around the ballpark with tons of bars, everyone pregaming. real drawback of the bank set up is the only thing near it is xfinity which is a white trash hellhole. the park itself is a dump and charming at the same time. the rf seats we were in are real packed in there...no room to move around and a real tough fit for the bigger folks. the lf seats were newer so it was like being in a normal park.
saw a lot of phils fans there, more so for game 1 but that just mightve been our section. legit loud eagles and lets go phils chants going. twitter said there was a huge eagles chant on the main concourse after they won but i wasnt in that area.
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ugggh i think the area around fenway is a disgrace....i mean its better than the the stadium complex but thats a pretty low bar....its all douchey chain like bars and there arent even that many of them...the first time i was there we walked around the entire stadium and basically said "this is it?" and struggled to decide where to go...second and third times we stayed downtown and just cabbed to the stadium right before the game
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im a sucker for a baseball atmosphere...everyone hanging around the ballpark accomplishes first versus philly where you can come in for 10 seconds before the game and leave right after.
could the bars be better? sure. we went to one maybe a block or 2 away that was fine. im not sure its possible to have a truly good bar in that area.
basically the entire thing made me mad that the phillies play in a parking lot
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i havent been to all stadiums but a phillie tailgate is probably better than any bar scene in the majors save wrigley
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White people problems.
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if the phillies make the playoffs as a 3 seed/wild card, game 3 of the nlds will be the same date as birds/vikings. if they are a 1/2 seed its a road game.
the only other potential conflict is game 5 of the world series, which is the same day as the birds london game
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Here come the nats
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here come the phils
walk
out
infield hit
walk
rbi 5-3 squibber
3 run bank hr
thats how the big boys rally
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I’m not seeing how Scott Kingery isn’t anything more than a AAAA infielder.
Someone convince me I’m wrong.
Please?
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That was a hell of a play by Franco
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aaron loloup
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Odubel easily should have easily caught that
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we're not there yet but with the way odubel is going and how interesting a player quinn is....
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Odubel easily should have easily caught that
He’s the worst outfielder I’ve ever seen at judging balls in the air
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I thought the Marlins yap team was bad in years past. This crew is probably the worst of all time. They literally don’t stop talking. The worst part is they’re not actually talking about what’s going on during the game.
Look, I know TMac’s high pitched screeching is unbearable, but at least he calls the play by play.
These guys? Nope. It’s like the game isn’t even happening.
Anyway, great job by Vinnie Vaz out there. And Franco’s ass throw was insane. Finish these bitch ass fishes off tonight and tomorrow.
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is Tommy Hutton back doing games
he’s farging awesome....especially when he does Phillie games cause all he talks about is Philadelphia
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Paul Severino and Todd Hollandsworth.
They’re new generation morons who don’t understand that they’re not farging entertainers. No one cares about your pithy anecdotes. Just announce the game as a pbp guy and as a color guy, offer occasional and pertinent insights.
That’s it. That’s the list.
Seriously. I muted it after 10 minutes and put the Phils radio team on SiriusXM. The Phils feed is blacked out on my tv package whenever they play these iceholes or the Rays.
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they fired Hutton or does he do radio or something?
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They fired him a few years ago, but they do have him drop in from time to time.
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I might have a little mist in my eye
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so nick williams hitting 3rd might be a thing
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Knapp hits a single
Schmidt: There’s another guy who’s been hit the ball well this month
Silence
TMac: and that single ends an 0-11 for Knapp
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schmidt clearly watches the phillies when he is there and literally no other time or point
always good to hear his insight
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Knapp hits a single
Schmidt: There’s another guy who’s been hit the ball well this month
Silence
TMac: and that single ends an 0-11 for Knapp
:-D :-D That's Schmidt
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Go Phillies
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Go Phillies
since you’ve been gone they changed their name to the fightin kaplers
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shtein!
I need to buy new hats
Is the logo a ballsack and a bottle of coconut oil?
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no its a brain and a 1 for being in 1st farging place
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shtein, Sir Anthony has fallen hard here of late. That was horrible tonight. Arrieta throws a fricken’ gem and the kid gives it right back. He has looked like ass lately.
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farg, good thing none of you stayed up.
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shtein, Sir Anthony has fallen hard here of late. He has looked like ass lately.
he struck out the side in his last game
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don was just doing a Schmidt impression.
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He also gave up a home run in his last outing.
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it was a beautiful slider on the outside corner that got lifted out by a beast of a man....it wasnt a case of searanthony having fallen off "hard" or looking like ass...just gotta tip your cap to bour there
now to be fair last night was a different story but he needs a few more outings like last night to make some sort of sweeping judgement that hes been ass lately when he pitched great one appearance ago had struck out 8 of the 16 previous batters he faced and gave up a single ER in his last five appearances
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yea he gave up a run on sunday and blew up a little against the dodgers on july 23. previous to that his last ERs were the sunday nighter in washington. in june.
twitter was a cesspool as usual last night acting like the season was over, but the destruction of seranthony surprised me. its as if people arent aware that even good relievers give up run sometimes.
his control hasnt been as good as it was earlier in the season. maybe it has something to do with him never pitching above a ball before. i dont know.
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I stayed up watching that. I didn't expect to be able to stay away after a long weekend of no sleep but there I was.
Sucks to see Arrieta's start wasted. Seranthony will be ok, I hope. He's not been on since the ASB.
And not scoring in the 8th was maddening.
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I stayed up watching that. I didn't expect to be able to stay away after a long weekend of no sleep but there I was.
Sucks to see Arrieta's start wasted. Seranthony will be ok, I hope. He's not been on since the ASB.
And not scoring in the 8th was maddening.
so, 80 ?
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I like Dominguez. He’s got serious shtein.
I was just saying that in the interest of fairness he did give up a dinger to go along with those 3 K’s.
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Rome face it, we're dammed to hell when we rip them and we're homers when we cheer for them.
Let me rephrase my previous comment:
It was rather unfortunate last night when Seranthony gave up those three hits and two runs in the bottom of the ninth after a wonderful performance by Arrieta. I am confident, despite some shaky innings the past week, Dominguez will regain his control.
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just a brutal look there by Odubel
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their offense is just plain bad
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If pivetta can ever find some consistency....man is he good when he’s good...and when he’s not he’s really bad
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any semblance of offense and they are on a 8 game streak
as it stands their chances of winning this game are like 3%
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that was very nice of Arizona
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Bases loaded no outs
o/u is one run
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assdribble cabrera is a pos met but he is 1000x better than kingery
also good to see jake diekman is still jake diekman
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Bases loaded no outs
o/u is one run
OVER!!
and im better than lkingery
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i know dom brown was hyped like mad but i cant remember a more deflating prospect performance
he was awesome in the minors....in spring training....got paid...every scout salivating...then he gets up and he sucks so bad they trade for a washed up 2B to replace him
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JP was a top 3 prospect in all of baseball two years ago
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jp sucked in AAA and if you looked at his performance as a whole you knew it wasnt going to be anything special even if he hit his ceiling. so basically everyone was prepared for him to be worthless.
kingery was almost thought to be a sure thing
also they keep rebounding from these terrible losses with nice wins. this is 100% kap.
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As soon as Kingery got that money I had a feeling that he'd suck
Hope Velasquez can keep up his good streak today
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no non pitcher is a sure thing in baseball especially scott kingery.....he had a total of less than 300 PA above double A...he was a spring training comet...one of a million....JP had something like a 1000 PA in AAA
now crawford wasnt even close to a lock either but he was seen to be a guarantee by a lot of heads since they all jerked off for three years over his plate discipline and how that skill all but guaranteed at least a good major league career.....
i think you are being a prisoner of the moment...also because kingery got that deal artificially makes him seem like he was a better prospect than he was
not saying he didnt or still dosnt have promise but hes not even close to being an all time disappointment unless you overrated the living shtein out of him
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considering the contract he got he def is....hes like one of 2 people to get PAID before even having an at bat
and at least dom brown had 1 month where he hit 1000 homers. kingery was out of his element from day 1.
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that doesnt make him a better prospect tho...it either makes the phillies really smart or really dumb
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im talking about hype and expectations though
you expected kingery to at least be decent. jp in A or AA i was hype on, then over the next 2 years reality set in and you knew what he was. if kingery spent this season in AAA where he belonged, things wouldve cooled. but once he got the contract it changed expectations.
4 months and 750 pop ups later, here we are.
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honestly except for certain cases of filthy ass phenom pitchers or any red sox prospect i dont really expect anything from baseball prospects
they are the most unreliable things ever
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guess he was due for a clunker but old vince is back
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that and arizona was due to hit...cant keep a good offense down for 3 games
monday was the killer. you werent going to sweep but you couldve had 2/3
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will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?
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Hoskins yes he’s a streaky hitter
Kingery no
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will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?
seriously, every time Kingery is at the plate I get up to pee or grab a snack knowing I won't miss much.
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will Hoskins or kingery ever get a hit again?
hoskins sucks i know hes so bad
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justin bour!
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justin bour!
No complaints, but where the hell are they gonna play him?
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Shortstop!
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it seems like hes generally going to be a pinch hitter who will then be flipped in the winter, most likely along with cesar/mike/jp for an additional piece. they have a doubleheader next week and 3 games in toronto, so im sure he will start at 1B here and there.
however, the phillies defense is so bad they might as well move santana to 3B or RF for a game or 2 and have the corners clogged with cement footed sloths, just for shteins and giggles
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it seems like hes generally going to be a pinch hitter who will then be flipped in the winter, most likely along with cesar/mike/jp for an additional piece.
He made it through waivers, meaning he has little trade value. I get having him as a platoon/pinch hitter but he’s making $20 million a year and so is Santana.
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Bour makes like three and a half on a one year deal
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Bour makes like three and a half on a one year deal
I’m talking about going forward
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but he’s making $20 million a year and so is Santana.
hes on a one year deal....he might not make 20 million for the rest of his career much less in any one year and none of it past this year will be with the phillies
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I meant to say he’s not making $20 million dollars a year...sort of a double negative
Witch hunt
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Fake signing.
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stick to misogyny
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trying to give this zesty offense the benefit of the doubt that this kid nix was a top prospect...so I looked it up and nope he’s the padres 14th best prospect
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this is a travesty
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you had to figure they were going to crash and crash hard and this might just be it
wonder if theyll play bour in CF because odubel is a joke
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Rhys Hoskins is complete garbage
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should they play kingery instead
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pretty much anyone but kingery would be a better option
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herrera-hoskins for ops by month
jun 743-1.088
jul 739- 921
aug 469-693
hoskins sucks tho amiright
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neither are particularly good but Rhys is a special kind of bad
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out of all the dumb mountains youve died on this is by far the 8th or 9th dumbest
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let me know when he gets another hit
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Rhys now apparently can’t it his forward anymore
weak pop to the catcher for a sweet 0-21 now
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nick with a beauty
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Milwaukee with three in the 8th to go 4-2 on the Braves
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0-22 on a weak grounder
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1-23!!!
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you are worse than a trump supporter
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sorry your hero isn’t that good
also Vic vic is the best reliever on the team who you hated on
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i dont give a farg ill fight every stillupfront here
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theres your win tyou pollack farg
go donate to the splc farging liberal farg
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someone had two beers tonight
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They’re not great but they’re 22 games better than they were last year after 116 games.
Oh and they’re in first place. I guess we can either be happy about that or fixate on what’s wrong with them.
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you wouldnt fit in very well on phillies twitter
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They’re not great
but are they good
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carlos santana is killing them
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It's a clown show in San Diego today. They need to all ride home in a Volkswagon buggy as befitting their play.
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Embarrassing
No other way to put it
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Well it was fun while it lasted. No bats, mindless defense, awful base running, weak ass bullpen and they were in first place with 36 games left. Not bad for this collection of scrubs.
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cheer up...at least they have an easy schedule coming up where the offense can find its footing....
red sox - red sox - degrom - syndergarrd - scherzer - scherzer next two weeks
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how can the offense find its footing when they never had it to begin with
they are what they are...it aint pretty but its been good enough. eventually you do meet reality.
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Pivetta’s pitching a good game, but Porcello is straight dealing. Perfect game alert.
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The Hoskins HR was a CBP special. He nearly hit it one-handed.
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:-D :-D Tommy Hunter
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carlos santana ripping some dingers tonight
and check out the wheels on asdrubel
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whats extra bad about this is that the nats and braves have acuna and soto who look like two future mvp candidates....they are unreal....the phillies have nick williams
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It is tough to watch them on offense. Good lord
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the 2 players utterly destroying them are santana and herrera
herrera has been a net negative since may. just absolutely brutal. santana is a 1 win player at a core offensive position. yea he walks a lot but 20 homer power from your 1B is rudimentary. hes a low 200s hitter. just not enough offense out of that position.
also has anyone mentioned how fat tommy hunter is
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Isn't Santana one of the Sabr-nerds favorite players? They eschew his BA for other horsehit stats
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Good thing they passed on JD Martinez. You know, because moniezzz in 2021.
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Isn't Santana one of the Sabr-nerds favorite players? They eschew his BA for other horsehit stats
his obp is good and his walk rate relative to his k rate is incredible. im more looking at this from the perspective that the other nl contenders have mashers at 1B: freeman, aguilar, carpenter, bellinger, goldy, desmond, rizzo. some better than others. santana lags behind all of them.
Good thing they passed on JD Martinez. You know, because moniezzz in 2021.
i was thinking about this yesterday. he signed for 5/110 which means the phillies wouldve had to go higher to get him. yes this season they would be at least 5 wins better if they had him. but you have to take the long view with this. martinez is over 30, a zesty defender and retaining financial flexibility is essential. plus, nobody expected them to be this competitive now.
if they had done this contract it would be certainly beneficial NOW, but in 3 years it would not be. boston knew they were a contender so it made sense for them to go for it and take the risk of eating the last few years. the phillies cant even stash him at DH. it really just didnt make a whole lot of sense for them.
if you could do it all over again you dont sign santana, keep hoskins at 1B and invest in a shorter deal with a corner OF like carlos gonzalez.
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im just happy to hear that pivetta has a relaxed posture going into last night's game.
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They activated Ramos.
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Jesus Christ!
HE IS OUT!!
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Ramos = Grit
J Bradley Jr. never ceases to amaze me. Guys got a howitzer for an arm.
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Wilson Ramos, the Anti-Herrera
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Bour just JFK'd Bogaerts right in the back. He is going to fit right in with the keystone cops
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Oh hey look... a major league hitter. Hi there. 👋
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What
The
Motherfarging
farg
Is
This
shtein
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Glad I missed that fiasco. Ranger got demolished.
And how in the hell did Mark Leiterfluid give up SEVEN unearned runs?
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kind of amazing how they could go from a tremendous win against boston to this travesty
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Believing in progress does not mean believing that any progress has yet been made.
-Kafka
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they had the worst loss in the history of the franchise and are still going to pick up a half game on atlanta
yea degrom and syndergaard next 2 nights but just remember baseball is stupid and makes no sense
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so is gabe purposely throwing the first games of these doubleheaders or what, seems like he always has the stronger pitcher going in the nightcap
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they i guess matched up stronger pitcher for stronger pitcher
truth be told suarez wasnt that bad. wouldve had 5/6 salvagable innings if the defense wasnt so putrid
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Glad I missed that fiasco. Ranger got demolished.
And how in the hell did Mark Leiterfluid give up SEVEN unearned runs?
Adios Lighterfluid
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Damn Nola was bringing it tonight. Good shtein.
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two balls up the middle this inning and this little bitch pivetta ran away from both
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you knew they were losing after that inning but you really knew they were losing when hoskins hr just goes foul
pivetta dominates the sox then gets hit hard by the minor league mets. makes sense.
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(https://i.gifer.com/10F3.gif)
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Slop balling POS Vargas is working these fargs over
Figures
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carlos santana had 3 homers since june 29
NOW HE HAS 4 YOU HATERS
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Since Memorial Day (May 28):
Odubel Herrera — .225 BA, .268 OBP
Scott Kingery — .229 BA, .263 OBP
Their OBPs rank 297th and 301st out of 326 players during that span.
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We all knew the fall would come, but man is this offense hard to watch.
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i figured out that i like hurting myself which is why i watch the phillies
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not even mad cause this was so predictable.....amazing thing is that it took this long....they will end up finishing behind the nats if strasburg can just be decent and really probably anyway
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nats were the lock of the year last night
just surprising it happened via the normally reliable victor arano serving up bombs to some minor leaguer and wilmer dilfo. the LOB fest in the 7th/8th made so much more sense
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a lot of good will come from this fall.
middleton will be even more motivated to get talent here.
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If he starts by ridding himself of Klentak and Kapler, and replaces them with real baseball men, that would be a good start.
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real baseball men
#MAGA
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Klentak is a piece of shtein and Kapler should be selling Amway.
Get them the both outta my farging sight.
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Welcome back Stephen
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So they get twisted into knots by AAAA pitchers and light up Strasburg in the first inning.
Go figure.
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I wanna punch the guy with the maga hat so bad
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Nice ending
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The Phillies are back, baby!
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could smell that one coming
well they didnt quite make it to labor day but 4+ months of competitive baseball was a nice little treat
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yes, it's over but the fact this circus act is 3 games out in late August is unbelievable. Echoing IGY, this was inevitable and I too thought they'd crash and burn in early July so hey, we got some free baseball.
Rome, Kaplar is more a Herb A Life sales leader. Nice guy, fit, means well, you want to like him but at the end of his pitch you're like "get out of here"
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even when they were “good” it was pretty awful...they were never a fun or enjoyable team
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i'm not a baseball pro like you guys but nola seems good.
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i'm not a baseball pro like you guys but nola seems good.
He's alright but he's no Tommy Hanson
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nola is still behind degrom but he just passed scherzer for the cy
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They're going down faster than Trump lawyers now.
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La de de da
Go Bows!
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week and a half to eagles
less than a month to sixers camp
go away phillies
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Joey Bats
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Bat flipping has been.
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whenever i see his face all i can think of is it getting crushed by roughneck.
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only the Phillies could draw 30 pitches in an inning and not score
also this crowd is an embarrassment
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I’m not discounting he will improve but if he doesn’t Hoskins cannot be their LF when and if they become WS contenders...he is a joke there
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the phillies internal metrics were telling them hoskins was better in lf than 1b....so either those are OFF or he is the biggest travesty in the history of fielders
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The math is starting to blow up in the nerd's faces.
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im not sure the math was ever working...more like in the first half they had some timely hitting to go along with their pitching....that is long gone....this sabremetrics crap never worked...the shifts have been dreadful for the most part and carlos santana sucks
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this sabremetrics crap never worked
yes the phillies are the first team in mlb history is embrace advanced metrics. do you idiots realize everyone else uses this stuff? the astros, the red sox, the cubs, the dodgers. everyone. big difference is those teams have a farg ton more talent than the phillies have.
you are welcome to not like it but you cant say it doesnt work. it does work. but you know what works better? having good players.
but yes carlos santana is a fat waste of space, that one is true
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so they got smashface.
hope he doesn't get roughned up again amirite?
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I’m not discounting he will improve but if he doesn’t Hoskins cannot be their LF when and if they become WS contenders...he is a joke there
So were Pat Burrell & Greg Luzinski. That’s why they’re in left field. But I agree with you he should be at 1st and fatty fat Santana should be on a rocket headed for Pluto.
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Wasted opportunities offensively? Check.
zesty defense? Check.
Bullpen implosion? Check.
And the descent into the abyss continues...
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^^^^Above is the microcosm that is your Philadelphia Phillies.
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I was open minded about Gabe kapler but his handling of the bullpen is atrocious
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I did like the nice ovation Bautista got followed by the three pitch K
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so they signed santana and moved hoskins to LF because hes such a better defensive 1B, yet....
i cant blame kap for the blown lead. when you dont have any reliable relievers every decision you make is going to be wrong
the real issue was pulling hoskins for quinn which is just asinine with a zesty pen and 3-4-5 up for the nats
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I was open minded about Gabe kapler but his handling of the bullpen is atrocious
Agreed. Painful.
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oh my God. The good old college try.
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Hector may be the best thing they have coming out of the pen.
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:-D :boom
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how could you even be mad at this
this shtein is hysterical
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Seriously, this is pretty damn funny to watch.
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What a waste of a Nola gem
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i cant blame kap for the blown lead. when you dont have any reliable relievers every decision you make is going to be wrong
leaving hunter in for a second inning to face bryce was easily the worst thing he did all game and was just inexcusable
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neshak isnt great against lhp....avilan is a loogy...i mean what difference does it make? when you have nothing reliable in the bullpen no decision is going to work out. tommy hunter is fat and zesty but its not like the alternatives there were so much better.
really the biggest thing for them going forward is they need to get more athletic. ramos and cabrera were desperate deadline moves for offense but even beyond them are a fat, slothy team. i dont know what specific fixes you can make beyond sending santana back to the AL but they need more roman quinn level athletes.
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Maybe teach their hitters to not swing out of their helmets on every pitch. Cesar Hernandez should not have 125 strikeouts.
And their defense is... well, offensive.
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Fading....goodnight, playoffs.
Can't hit and the defense is atrocious.
Tommy Hunter needs to be fired into the sun.
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I figured 83 wins at the start of the season. I’m not surprised by this but I am disappointed that they’re regressing to the mean.
Just can Kapler and the season won’t be a total loss.
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the goat matt gelb did a chat today and said a few times hed be shocked if they didnt bring santana back
i mean im not surprised but if theyre serious about winning you cant have hoskins in LF...he just cant play there
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kapler is drunk right now with his pen management
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Jesus farg! Hoskins is atrocious in the outfield. Helen Keller could read fly balls better than this guy.
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kapler is drunk right now with his pen management
The color guy with Costas on MLB Network called out Kapler on his handling of the bullpen this season.
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ASSDRIBBLE
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nothing would be more 2018 phillies than to sweep the cubs, pull even with the braves, then go 1-5 against the marlins/mets
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It is amazing how awful this fargin team is in most respects. Yet somehow they keep winning occasionally. Talk about perplexing.
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im not sure if im going to go but i just got a ticket for tonight for $5.50
people love the phillies
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Philly fans can spot a fraud when we see one.
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Where would this team be without Aaron Nola?
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Where would this team be without Aaron Nola?
Way to let me down, jerk!
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Nola choked like a dog today
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his stuff was filthy 3 pitches just happened to be hit for homers
i wouldnt go full trump here
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so he choked?
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he threw 3 pitches that happened to be hit for homers....his offense put 100 people on base and exactly 0 of them scored
even if nola throws a shutout they dont win. i wouldnt go blame him.
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so he was awesome besides the million homers he gave up
got it
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you know who isnt awesome
the phillies
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Nola lost for the fourth time this year. It's hard, but I'll try to forgive him.
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he threw 3 pitches that happened to be hit for homers....his offense put 100 people on base and exactly 0 of them scored
even if nola throws a shutout they dont win. i wouldnt go blame him.
Phillies 2018 Highlight Video
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They better get some goddamn bats this offseason.
And Kapler and his horseshtein "i like us better now than when we were in first place" schtick is old
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They better get some goddamn bats this offseason.
And Kapler and his horseshtein "i like us better now than when we were in first place" schtick is old
If you couldn't tell already Kapler is Captain positive. I give the guy credit for keeping them in contention all year. Because of the schedule and pitching matches most of us saw them falling off a cliff.
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choke is your single season home run king.....
https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2018/9/4/17768666/home-run-record-mark-mcgwire-sammy-sosa-barry-bonds-ryan-howard
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies
CHOKE!
That was a good read.
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where will things be after sunday? 3 back.
braves - 1 red sox, 4 @dbacks
phillies - 1 marlins (rookie), 3 mets (matz, synder, degrom)
i say they are still 3 back.
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5 back....but the real answer is who cares
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5 back....but the real answer is who cares
In a rare occurrence... I fully agree with Igy. This is over.
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I think if the Eagles weren’t as good as they are, there’d be a lot more Phils heat.
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5 back....but the real answer is who cares
the braves suck
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I think if the Eagles weren’t as good as they are, there’d be a lot more Phils heat.
incorrect
the Phillies are a shtein show to watch
tonight might be the worst defensive lineup I’ve ever seen fielded
5 back....but the real answer is who cares
the braves suck
my god then what are the Phillies?
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Is Santana really playing third? With Assdribble at short? What a clusterfarg.
Kapler gotta Kapler.
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I wonder what Santana’s moneyball nerd stats are for defensive runs saved and whatever other stupid stats are for him at 3B
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yea its not about that
with franco out they are playing an optimal offensive lineup with a high k/flyball pitcher on the mound. the hope is avoid disaster on defense and score some runs, then change for defense in the 6th or 7th. im sure it will work.
they know what santana is at 3B....im sort of impressed and honored they put together the worst left side defense in baseball history. 3 cement foot sloths all out of position.
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That offense is working wonders tonight!
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the phillies throw defense out the window to start an offensive lineup and they cant get a runner to 2nd
throw this team in a lava pit
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I’m flipping over between the Eagles shows on NFLN
Painful
Score some farging runs for fargs sake
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I’m flipping over between the Eagles shows on NFLN
Painful
Score some farging runs for fargs sake
Same thing. This three ring circus playing in front of 350 people is nothing "special" to watch. Score some runs you clowns.
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lol roman quinn getting doubled off 1st, followed by bats' double
they are so predictable
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Running out of terms for stupid, used them all to describe this team's baseball IQ this season.
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Of course the next two get on base after Quinn's boner.
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They're relying on Florimon... :-D
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the real loser is me, for watching this
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5 back....but the real answer is who cares
This
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This team...
(http://www.concretefield.info/forum/Smileys/classic/laugh.gif)
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Their hitting is a total fargin embarrassment. Made me sick to watch that tonite. Yuck.
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Steckenrider was grooving four seamers and neither Florimon or Quinn could hit it
Embarassing
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unironically j angry about pedro florimon and roman quinn
I MISS HIM
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scott kingery against rhp in the second half of the season .175/.221/.270
thats not a misprint
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go birds !
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and still kap wont play jp
amazing
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jp sucks...there is zero point in playing him or even him being on the roster
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Kap heading up the grounds crew too?
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Atta boy Kap! Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.
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Got in the car, turned on the MLB app, checked the score, and got out of the MLB app and played music.
That's a win... at least for me.
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Atta boy Kap! Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.
they have 20 pitchers on the active roster
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And 18 of them are pigshtein.
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And 18 of them are pigshtein.
Funny, I had nearly this exact thought go through my head. May only be 15-16, but the vast majority have not been good lately.
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Wait... Gabe can get upset?
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Is there any doubt Harper hits a grand slam here?
EDIT: Wow, he didn't. But this team... :-D
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(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AnimatedAnimatedAtlanticblackgoby-max-1mb.gif)
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the saddest thing in the world is tmac updating people on the braves score
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Atta boy Kap! Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.
they have 20 pitchers on the active roster
Yea, and 17 of them suck
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And 18 of them are pigshtein.
Yea, and 17 of them suck
im interested to know which one romey thinks sucks that don doesnt
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This debate could go on for hours. Sad thing is Neris might make the good list it’s that bad.
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Dear Fighting Fans,
Braves 3
Giants 0
Bottom 6
Love Always,
T Mac
He can stop after tonight.
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He might as well toss out the Padres-Mariners score too, it's equally relevant to the Phils.
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Atta boy Kap! Might as well go out like you came in, double header today and you're about to use up most of the bullpen in game 1.
they have 20 pitchers on the active roster
Yea, and 17 of them suck
you weren’t talking about if they were good or not you were ripping Gabe for using too many in the first game of a double header as if he needed to save some for g2
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Nola & Neshek are it. The rest, including fat Jake Millwood, can suck a fat dick.
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I’m done until Klentak and Kapler are gone. I’ll watch occasionally but following them is just a waste of my time.
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settle down
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romey's drama queen act is one of my favorite things
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Why am I a drama queen for refusing to watch this bullshtein? My life isn’t as empty as yours, so obviously watching them lose in new and interesting ways isn’t necessary for me.
But hey, keep watching if you want.
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because you sound like a hysterical woman....i love it dont get me wrong
i havent watched them really at all the past week or so. its a tough product right now. ill be there next year, though. with or without kap and klen
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another year older santana and arrieta should be fun
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nevermind the contract, as mediocre as arrieta will be - he's still one of the 5 best SP they will have. at least to start the year. by midseason one of the kids could be pushing.
santana is a carcass who is forcing that oaf hoskins to play out of position. if hes still here there are issues.
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Too little too late time.
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I can’t wait until Machado, Brycie and the rest look at the Phillies and say, “no amount of money” in reply to Cancerman’s ridiculous contract offers.
Also - Kapler’s “a chip and a chair” quote is so laughable, it alone should get him fired.
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your victim complex is staggering
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Care to take a moment away from obsessing about me to talk about the Phillies?
Freak.
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youre more interesting than the phillies
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Currently Florida 2, Philadelphia 0
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Currently Florida 2, Philadelphia 0
The Isles beat the Flyers in preseason hockey too. Future Floridians.
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Said a few unkind words to Hoskins during that last at-bat. Should have blasted that strike two pitch.
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5.5 back...7 left with ATL
LETS DO THIS
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oh no
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5.5 back...7 left with ATL
LETS DO THIS
Ha. Awesome.
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best move theyve made in about two years....
All Phillies Sunday home games next season will begin at 1:05 p.m. instead of 1:35.
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so if they go 6-1 against atlanta....
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so when Hell freezes over.........
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When does this franchise score a Acuna Jr.?
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Todd said it best "Santana is a carcass". Why is he playing at SS?
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Wait, he's playing third. Sorry. He still sucks.
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wow! Luzinski's wife may be able to fill in for Jason Peters. She looks like she'd kick your ass.
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cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season
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cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season
My guess...
(http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/29198.png&w=350&h=254)
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tommy hunter was -450 to be the guy
the good thing is they didnt drag this out any further than it needed...go enjoy your weekend
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Stay of execution denied
Tommy Hunter is a bum
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cant wait to find out which bullpen arm blows the season
ummm the season was over a least two weeks ago
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technically it was over in march, they just kept the charade going for longer than anticipated
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They owned the second-best record in the National League on Aug. 5 and lost 28 of their next 43 games
i think he we have a runner up to 1964 for the franchies biggest collapses. hooray!
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I expected them to be worse but I also expected them to be more interesting.
The good news I don't think anyone outside of extreme homers got caught up in too much hype. It wasn't a secret that the record was kinda fraudulent.
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Yeah, it was more of a regression to the norm than a true collapse. This team just isn't that good.
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^^ :yay^^
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i think it can be both....they were never that good but having the second best record in the league on august 5th to .500 now is the definition of a collapse
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Excruciating part was the fact it was a total collapse from Kaplar all the way to the last man in the bullpen.
No hitting, terrible base running IQ, sloppy defense, starting pitching digressed, bullpen was a dumpster fire, Go Team Go!
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They may not win another game this season.
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Summary of the Phillies season:
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24798393
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HA! So true. Speaking of dumpster fires, ODH.
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This team couldn't beat their own dicks right now.
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Klentak is all in with Kapler and evidently cancerman is all in with Klentak despite all the fargups. Sad.
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Quitters and bums
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im mr. rational but someone gotta get got for this
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They may not win another game this season.
.
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im mr. rational but someone gotta get got for this
Kapler can go tan his nuts somewhere else
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They may not win another game this season.
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Sad thing is i don’t think you were trying to be funny when you originally posted this.
We’ve seem some bad shtein in our days but these two months are right up there.
Quit team, Quit!
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Guess I was wrong... forgot the Nola factor. Today is a certain loss to wrap up this uncertain season.
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80
What do I win?
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80
What do I win?
The chance to watch as many playoff games as the rest of us.
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the phillies did beat the braves in one place....THE RATINGS
phils ratings were up 20% on last year, which really isnt that good considering how noncompetitive they were last year and that this group was playing fairly meaningful baseball for like 90% of the season.
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Agreed 100%, that's not that great considering they were in the hunt through August.
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The countdown to Tommy John is ticking for Sixto:
Phillies top pitching prospect Sixto Sanchez will skip Arizona Fall League after setback (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-top-pitching-prospect-sixto-sanchez-will-skip-arizona-fall-league-after-setback)
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i was out canvassing for votes in QV and kapler passed by me
first off he is built like a fire hydrant...easily more jacked than your average linebacker. he isnt insanely tall but he could break me into pieces with his index finger.
second i asked if they're signing machado and he said something to the effect of "i dont know, we'll see." i responded with the money doesnt matter you gotta do it and hes like "i love it."
so its official. machado to the phillies.
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you sound like you first heard of gabe kapler today
his build has been talked about way before he even came to the phillies
there like pictures on the internet and stuff
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i know i jerked off to those
im just saying up close his physique is....something
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nm- wrong thread
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lil guy went home and tanned his nuts with coconut oil
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Anyone who was stuck watching these games already knows this...
Phillies worst in MLB at making hard contact (http://www2.philly.com/philly/newsletters/phillies/phillies-mlb-hard-contact-rankings-fangraphs-asdrubal-cabrera-justin-bour-20181025.html)
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hey everyone
https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/1056927192700145665
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I wanna see Jays head explode
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Chance of either one will happen is low, and not negligible only because of money.
Chance of both would seem infinitesimal to me.
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a boy can dream
santana-machado-harper-hoskins-williams-herrera/quinn-kingery-alfaro
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Remember Simmons/Dario/Lebron/Kawhi/Embiid
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remember the nba has a max and the mlb does not
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Shane's dad, Mike Victorino just elected Mayor of Maui. Guy is classic, Mr. Aloha!
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romey....j.....get ready
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/
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Bryce Harper is AT the Novacare complex
Won’t believe it till he’s holding up a Phils jersey
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romey....j.....get ready
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2018/11/07/bryce-harper-phillies-free-agent-contract/1924622002/
Can’t wait
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GET
Magic and Bird never played together. Mantle and Mays never played together. Williams and DiMaggio never played together. But … Look off into the distance. Here’s a pairing that could actually happen one of these years:
Bryce Harper and Mike Trout – together in Philadelphia? It isn’t crazy. Is it?
The Phillies are currently the Vegas favorites to sign Harper this winter. Their owner, John Middleton, has lit up the baseball world by admitting to USA Today he’s looking to spend “stupid” money. And then there’s Trout.
He can’t be a free agent for two more years. But you can currently find him digesting Thanksgiving dinner in lovely Millville, N.J., 41 miles up the road from that fabled South Philly corner where his Eagles season tickets are situated – and, in a related development, where the Phillies also play 81 games a year.
He’s not going anywhere anytime soon, or maybe ever. But if he does …
“Mike loves his Philly sports,” said one old friend.
So let’s say this again. It isn’t crazy. Is it?
“I think it’s possible,” said one big-league executive who has passed through both Philadelphia and L.A. of Anaheim. “That city would [go insane] if that happened.”
“Is that some unimaginable dream – to see two of the best players on the planet in the same outfield? Absolutely not,” said Shane Victorino, former Phillie, former teammate of Trout in LA/Anaheim and former Vegas workout partner of Harper. “I’ve even told my wife, if that happens, I’d want to go coach. I’d come off the couch just to be part of that and help those guys with all the things that guys have to go through in Philly.”
Uh, whoah, whoah, whoah there, Mr. Flyin’ Hawaiian. We’re a long way, and who knows how many millions of dollars, from this actually happening. Heck, we wouldn’t bet Harper’s shoe collection on it ever happening at all.
But is it totally crazy? It isn’t. Could we see this particular owner salivating over the thought of piling enough stupid money in front of Harper and Trout to pull it off? We could. So let’s take a look at this wild idea – and whether it even makes sense.
The Harper-Trout connection
Before we get into breaking down the dollars and the baseball logic, let’s review the dots that have connected Harper and Trout for years.
In terms of career achievements, is it fair to compare them to Magic and Bird, Mantle and Mays, Williams and DiMaggio? Of course not.
Trout has held up his end of the journey toward all-time greatness. Harper’s path has zig-zagged through good times and not-so-good times, highlights and lowlights, injuries and inconsistencies. We get that.
But let’s put it aside for the moment. It’s still kind of incredible that these two men arrived in the big leagues to stay on exactly the same day – April 28, 2012. They were a massive topic then. They’re a massive topic now. And it feels as if they’ll be forever linked, for that and many other reasons.
Trout ranks first among all active players in career OPS (.990). Harper ranks seventh (.900). The only other player under 30 in that .900 OPS Club is Giancarlo Stanton. But we would argue that if you took a survey of casual sports fans from coast to coast, it is Trout and Harper who would emerge as the two most recognizable, move-the-needle baseball players on earth. And ohbytheway, they’re both younger than Whit Merrifield or Joey Wendle, among others.
HIGHEST CAREER OPS, PLAYERS UNDER 30
PLAYER AGE OPS
Mike Trout 27 0.990
Giancarlo Stanton 29 0.905
Bryce Harper 26 0.900
Nolan Arenado 27 0.886
Freddie Freeman 29 0.875
(min. 3,000 PA; source: Baseball-reference.com)
So you can tell us all day long and all winter long that Harper is not the second-best position player in baseball, that Mookie Betts, Joey Votto, Nolan Arenado, Paul Goldschmidt, Christian Yelich, Aaron Judge, Kris Bryant, etc. have all out-achieved him, or have passed him by, or pick your favorite rationale. Cool. Not our debate topic of the day.
In a sport that is desperate for transcendent faces and personalities, Bryce Harper has “it,” in a way that even Trout doesn’t have “it.” So why are we even going down this road? That’s why.
Harper’s future
What are the chances of Harper landing in Philadelphia this winter? We’re all just guessing on that. It’s still more than two weeks until the winter meetings arrive in Harper’s hometown (Las Vegas). And by all accounts, his agent, Scott Boras, is taking his time on this one. So the Harper market has barely taken shape.
But it’s amazing how many people inside this sport almost assume that the Phillies will be the highest bidder in this auction. And if you’ve studied the history of “Scott Boras” and “highest bidder,” you’ll have a good feel for how this is likely to wind up if that’s the case.
There is still a lot of sentiment that Harper’s first choice is to stay in Washington if the dollars are there. While the Nationals’ front office has made plans to move on without him – with an attractive Juan Soto/Victor Robles/Adam Eaton/Michael A. Taylor outfield no less – remember this: No matter where this man ends up, it will be an ownership decision, not a front-office decision. And the Nationals’ owners, the Lerner family, are “in love with him,” said one exec who has known them for years. So for now at least, Washington remains in play.
But as purely a baseball fit, Harper and Citizens Bank Park have always made for a cute couple. Check out Harper’s numbers in Philadelphia. You’ll get the picture.
HARPER’S HIGHEST CAREER OPS BY BALLPARK
PARK OPS GAMES PLAYED
Coors Field 1.116 20
Citizens Bank Park 0.930 50
Nationals Park 0.912 472
Citi Field 0.877 56
Great American Ballpark 0.861 21
(min. 20 games played; source: Baseball-reference.com)
To look at those numbers and to assume this pairing is inevitable, though, would be a gigantic mistake. In the end, the only numbers that really matter will have a $ in front of them. And if you’ve read the comments of Phillies general manager Matt Klentak and team president Andy MacPhail this winter, they’ve all but recorded their own podcast in an effort to get the word out that they’re not real comfortable with the years and dollars this is going to take.
Even Middleton acknowledged, in his USA Today interview, that MacPhail has repeatedly delivered that message to him personally, saying: “As Andy likes to tell me, ‘John, we are playing baseball after 2019, so, you can’t spend every last dime after this year. You got to have something in the tank for future years.’”
Eloquently stated. So, hmmmm. What (or whom) would they be saving all those dimes for? Let’s just say we have a hunch. And it just might involve …
Trout’s future
There is no more common misconception in baseball these days than this: Mike Trout will be hitting free agency after the 2020 season.
Not so fast. The first question we’d have, and that many front-office types would have, is as basic as a 3-and-0 fastball: Why the heck would the Angels – and owner Arte Moreno – let that happen?
“I would bet,” quipped one exec, “that Arte would spend $10 billion not to have to read the sentence: ‘Arte Moreno was the owner who let Mike Trout walk away.’”
That “$10 billion” part is an official exaggeration. The other part? Totally true. In a perfect world, the folks who run the Angels would vote not to have Trout play a single game in his life in any other uniform.
You should also remember this: Trout has never, for one second, expressed any unhappiness with any aspect of being an Angel. So if you think he’s on the verge of forcing his way out, just so he has an easier commute to Millville, you don’t know him very well.
“This,” said the old friend quoted earlier, “isn’t Jimmy Butler we’re talking about.”
Still, we’ve asked some questions of friends and people who have known Trout for years. They all tell us there’s one thing that gnaws at him, and we bet you could guess what that is. At some point, if he doesn’t play on a team that wins a postseason series (or at least looks like it’s on the verge of winning), he is likely to consider his options.
If he does make it to free agency in two years, the line will be long and the price tag might make a MegaMillions jackpot look like your monthly savings-account interest. But the tug of playing for his hometown team, in front of his family and lifelong pals, could be a powerful magnetic force – assuming the dollars on the check are large enough.
“You know, Mike doesn’t consider himself to be from Philly,” one longtime friend reminded us. “Mike considers himself to be from Millville. He’s all about Millville. But he does love Philly.”
Victorino says he and Trout used to talk about Philadelphia “a lot” – since Trout was 16 when the 2008 Phillies were rolling toward a World Series. So Victorino can’t help but recall that Trout idolized Chase Utley and measured himself against the stars on that team.
One night that sticks in Victorino’s mind was Oct. 2, 2015, a game in which Trout led off the ninth inning of a must-win game in Texas with a triple, then jumped to his feet and let out a roar they could probably hear back in Orange County. Moments later, he scored the winning run to keep the Angels’ playoff hopes alive.
“His locker was next to mine,” Victorino said. “So we were talking after the game. And I said, `You know what, Mike? As much fun as you said you had watching my teams in Philly … I played with some of the baddest dudes on the planet. But I can’t tell you how much I love playing with a guy who’s that much better than every other person on the field.’ I looked at that guy, and he was better than every one of us. And I wanted him to know that.”
It’s three years later now. And nobody should have to explain to any of us how much better Mike Trout still is than everybody else. But what happens if the Phillies sign Harper this winter and then Trout becomes a free agent in 24 months? Is there really enough room for both of them – in the same outfield and on the same payroll?
The Phillies’ future
Now that John Middleton has let the world know this is the Phillies’ time to spend, think about the messy spot he has put Matt Klentak and his front office in. No matter what they do now, how can it possibly turn out right?
If they don’t sign somebody in the Harper/Manny Machado strata, they look like failures. If they do sign one of those guys, for 300 million bucks or so, we’ll all be asking: “Who’s worth that kind of money?” And the answer is probably: “Nobody.” So, good luck to them.
From a baseball standpoint, there is no argument that the Phillies are a one-player-away kind of team. They have many needs. They have many places to upgrade. And there’s an excellent case to be made that their money would be better spent filling those needs with multiple players – and saving up the big bucks for a 2020 run at Mike Trout.
But you know what the Phillies do need? Stars. Attractions. A reason to watch. A reason to spin through the turnstiles. And why do we think that’s been on the owner’s mind?
Did you know the Phillies didn’t have a single two-win position player, according to Baseball-Reference’s Wins Above Replacement computations? They weren’t just the only team in the sport without a player like that this year. They were the first since the 2004 Arizona Diamondbacks – and that was a juggernaut that lost 108 games!
So, why would the Phillies be interested in Bryce Harper? Because every darned night, he has a chance to do something that makes you say, “Wow. Did you see that?” That’s why.
The question is: If they sign Harper, for what is likely to be the largest free-agent contract in the history of professional sports, how much money would they have left? And by that, we mean: How could they possibly turn around and sign Trout, too, in a couple of years?
Whew. Really good question.
We can only guess how this front office would answer that. But the guess would be that they’d say they can’t. They’ve discouraged the popular thinking that they can afford to sign both Harper and Machado this winter. So, they’d be just as likely to argue that, in reality, as they contemplate how to approach their present and future spending options, their choice comes down to Harper or Trout, not Harper and Trout.
But, of course, their friends in the agent community don’t see it that way. They see a franchise that has spent way below its means for the last four years, a franchise with one of the biggest local TV deals in the sport and a franchise with vast potential to increase its revenue streams if it can just recapture the attention of its fan base.
“They are so awash in money,” said one agent who represents neither Harper nor Trout, “they can do anything they want.”
They’ll feel intense pressure to stay under the luxury-tax threshold, naturally. But by the time Trout is eligible for free agency in two years, the threshold will be up to $210 million. And, as of today, the Phillies have exactly $15 million in guaranteed money committed to their entire roster for that season.
Jake Arrieta will be off the books by then. Carlos Santana will be off the books by then. Rhys Hoskins will merely be in his first year of arbitration eligibility. Only Aaron Nola, who would be a year away from free agency, would figure to command a significant payday.
Meanwhile, we count 11 teams that currently have multiple players they’ll be paying an AAV of $21 million or more for next season and beyond – even before any of this year’s free agents have signed. And if the Nationals were to sign Harper, just for perspective’s sake, they’d have three:
PLAYER AVG. SALARY TOTAL CONTRACT
Max Scherzer $30M/yr 7 years, $210M
Stephen Strasburg $25M/yr 7 years, $175M
Bryce Harper $30+M/yr ???
What would be different in the Phillies’ case, obviously, is that they would be looking at potentially paying Harper and Trout $35 million-$40 million a year – for seven to 10 years. At the same time. And no team has ever done that. So, what are the chances the Phillies could be the first?
“No baseball person would ever advise any owner to do that,” said one executive we surveyed. “The owner has to decide that for himself.”
So, what, realistically, are the odds of Bryce Harper and Mike Trout ever playing in the same outfield? Don’t ask them. Don’t ask Matt Klentak. And don’t ask Andy MacPhail.
You should only ask John Middleton how much stupid money he really wants to spend – to do what no owner not named Steinbrenner has ever done.
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It's gonna be real sad when they don't get Manny or Harper, and we're cheering on a washed-up Andrew McCutchen.
At least with Trout we have some indication that he would open to coming to Philly.
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the good thing about trout is youll never before it gets there whether or not you have a shot
if hes not extended by next winter the trade market will be ON
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gonna go on record and say a segura for jp crawford trade is a good thing
will see what other youngins are going to seattle, but segura is a good one
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Hopefully Santana’s part of the deal
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that is the rumor.
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anything that gets rhys out of the outfield is a great thing....farg everything else
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It’s not his fault that the Phillies stuck him where he doesn’t belong.
As for Harper, farg him. I want him nowhere near my team. He is a franchise killing cancer and he’ll be miserable in Philly. That said, if they do sign him, they have to sign someone else with a similarly grotesque contract just to take the weight off his narrow shoulders.
I’d give the Angels anything they’d ask for Trout too. They don’t have enough for him but I’d still ask.
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i dont care whose fault it is hes a horror show there
hes probably going to suck at first as well but like normal suck....not hindenburg suck
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I actually think his playing the OF was a huge distraction for him and hurt him at the plate
No doubt he was beyond awful out there. Just saying the fault lies with Klentak and the Mannequin for hanging out to dry out there.
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Trade is official and it’s absolute thievery.
Now get Manny and Corbin and trade for Trout.
World Series and shtein.
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machado will be interesting now...i still think the phillies will bid more than anyone but he really wants to play SS. not sure hes going to get that offer from anyone else but maybe the worthless white sox. if you miss on manny you can fall back into the nolan arenado bidding next offseason, too.
want no part of corbin. next year will be his age 30 season. itll take at least 5 years to get him. theres just no way this works out.
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want no part of corbin. next year will be his age 30 season. itll take at least 5 years to get him. theres just no way this works out.
thank you allah...and lol @ the nats for giving him 6 years. 36 year old patrick corbin making $25 mil. sounds good.
for anybody upset consider this:
https://twitter.com/McCulloughTimes/status/1070052013826658304
now go give bryce 400 bills
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$400M won’t cut it.
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Nice.
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25478445/washington-nationals-owner-mark-lerner-said-maxed-offer-bryce-harper
Hmmmm...
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McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.
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Ehhhhh :-*
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not in love with this deal but need to see what else they do before fully judging it
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McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.
That is a lot of money for him
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McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.
You spelled Harper incorrectly.
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McCutcheon 3-Yrs/$45M or $50M depending on the source.
That is a lot of money for him
We're going into this expecting to spend money. And maybe even be a little bit stupid about it.
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That’s not stupid money considering what these guys are getting paid.
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If he’s worth 15-17 million a year, what is Harper worth or Trout for that matter?
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???
https://twitter.com/rhyshoskins/status/1072620190221897731
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If that was a troll job it was both mean and hilarious.
Nice to see us wearing off on Rhys.
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That is a lot of money for him
jay bruce is getting 14 mil this year
If he’s worth 15-17 million a year, what is Harper worth or Trout for that matter?
north of 30
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I think they’ll both clear $35M/Yr. Harper might clear $40M.
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happ to the yanks thank god
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kenny walked that back...hes got 100 offers for 2 years, none for 3. his people gonna hold until the 3 comes.
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its oretty funny that the billion dollar phillies who were getting harper and machado cant get ja happ
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Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado
who could have predicted this....
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Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado
who could have predicted this....
Me when I said they should have made every possible effort to go after Stanton and not rely on possibly signing Harper or Machado. I know he had an NTC blah blah blah but if they were really serious about getting “stupid” with spending they could have enticed him to come here. We’re now stuck with 32 year old Mcclutchen and not much else to show this offseason. Signing him was as pointless as signing Santana last season. They might as well continue to bank rather than sign zesty deals and make a run at Trout in a few years. Their farm system is great st producing hyped up prospects who don’t pan out.
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Phillies never had a chance at Harper or machado
you always have a chance if youre offering more money. i actually think their best chance is harper. machado wants to be at short and wants to be in NY. boras' clients always take the better deal so if they just outbid LA (where he wants to go, and which doesnt have the salary space...yet), they might get him.
Me when I said they should have made every possible effort to go after Stanton and not rely on possibly signing Harper or Machado.
no idea why youre still on this. stanton didnt want to come here and his contract is a disaster they should stay 1000 miles away from even if he wanted to.
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In the words of one rival executive, it is the worst nightmare for the Phillies, also known as Team Stupid Money: Manny Machado signs with the Yankees while Bryce Harper is still a free agent, increasing the pressure on the Phils to strike a deal with Harper’s ever-accommodating agent, Scott Boras.
Remember the early talk about the Phillies signing both 26-year-old stars? It never made sense, but managing partner John Middleton sure raised expectations when he told USA Today at the owners’ meetings in November, “We’re going into this expecting to spend money. And maybe even be a little stupid about it.”
Middleton added the qualifier, “We just prefer not to be completely stupid,” but suddenly Team Stupid Money was a thing. And I don’t know, just a guess, but the good citizens of Philadelphia are not going to be content if the Phillies settle for free-agent outfielder Andrew McCutchen and a couple of high-priced relievers, then conclude, “Machado and Harper, gee, they just cost too much.”
Machado spent 90 minutes on Wednesday with the Yankees, the team that is at the top of the wish list, if you believe the industry buzz and what his friends supposedly are saying in Miami. He will visit the Phillies on Thursday, getting re-acquainted with three familiar faces from his days with the Orioles – team president Andy MacPhail, general manager Matt Klentak and assistant GM Ned Rice.
With Phillies manager Gabe Kapler also expected to be in attendance, the stakes could not be higher. The Phils need to connect with Machado as they fight the Yankees’ mystique and aura, not to mention the White Sox with their new TV contract and newly acquired first baseman Yonder Alonso, who just happens to be – coincidence, just coincidence! – Machado’s brother-in-law.
Mostly, though, the Phils just need to offer Machado stupid money, whether it’s on Thursday or at some other point in the near future – enough to persuade him to give up shortstop for third base, force his other suitors into submission and eliminate the possibility of a dizzying tango with Boras over Harper for the next, oh, month or two months. A tango that, gulp, still might end up with Harper returning to the division rival Nationals.
The Phillies can hem and haw about all of the other ways they can improve, but they were pointing toward this moment long before Middleton’s comments, preparing to finish off their rebuilding effort by unleashing their financial might on a deep free-agent class. Whether it was Harper or Machado, Machado or Harper, virtually the entire industry – not to mention the entire city of Philadelphia – assumed the Phils were ready to go big.
To this point, though, the Monsters of the Middleton have been relatively quiet, signing McCutchen to a semi-excessive, three-year, $50 million deal and acquiring shortstop Jean Segura in a five-player trade with the Mariners that carried the dual benefit of ridding the team of Carlos Santana and clearing first base for Rhys Hoskins.
Team Stupid Money lacks a left-handed starting pitcher, but after declining to guarantee Patrick Corbin a sixth year and J.A. Happ a third, might end up trading for the less accomplished Mike Minor of the Rangers. Team Stupid Money wants to sign a free-agent left-handed reliever, but has yet to complete a deal six days after Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia reported the Phils were “strongly” on Andrew Miller.
Corbin, 29, went to the Nationals for six years, $140 million – the Yankees also drew the line at five years, as if the risk in a deal of that length increases dramatically with the extra year. Happ, 36, went to the Yankees for two years, $34 million – more money than the Phillies were willing to offer him over the same term.
Which begs the question: What is the point of talking about stupid money if you’re not going to use it?
On Nov. 19, The Athletic’s Matt Gelb detailed the inherent conflict between the aggressiveness of Middleton and the more deliberate, risk-averse MacPhail and Klentak.
If anything, Middleton is the outlier, a good, old-fashioned, money-whipping owner. These days, almost every team preaches discipline, managing its payroll with the bloodless efficiency of a broker managing his portfolio. The Yankees, in fact, might take the same take-it-or-leave-it approach with Machado they did with Corbin, refusing to be sucked into say, a 10-year deal.
The difference is, the Yankees won 100 games last season, and they can pivot by acquiring a second baseman and trotting out a left-side infield of shortstop Gleyber Torres and third baseman Miguel Andújar – two of the top three finishers in the AL Rookie of the Year balloting – while Didi Gregorius recovers from Tommy John surgery.
The Phillies, on the other hand, currently feature the enigmatic Maikel Franco at third in addition to the talented Segura at short. And, as noted by The Athletic’s Jayson Stark, they were the first team to endure a losing season – their sixth straight, for those counting – after being 15 or more games above .500 after 113 games.
I can hear the Phillies’ brass already if they blow it with Machado and Harper, calling for patience, whispering about the possibility of signing third baseman Nolan Arenado in free agency next offseason or south Jersey native Mike Trout the offseason after that. Well, Arenado and Trout would be older than 26 if they hit the open market – a significant if, considering both might sign extensions. And if the Phillies cannot close on Machado or Harper, why should anyone expect them to close on any big free agent in the future?
Don’t look now, but the other NL East contenders are undeterred by the alleged sleeping giant in Philadelphia. The Nationals will be improved with or without Harper. New Mets GM Brodie Van Wagenen, in possession of either new proprietary metrics or enhanced psychedelics, believes his team might be the division favorite. The Braves added third baseman Josh Donaldson and catcher Brian McCann to their division-champion roster, and possess better young talent than any of their division rivals.
For the Phillies, the choice is clear.
Do not get cute. Do not miss on the player you have spent years coveting. Do not advance to negotiations with Boras with your leverage compromised.
You’re Team Stupid Money, remember?
Sign Machado.
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What jilted bitchtits wrote that slop?
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national writer....no jilt involved...just truth
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No writer of any sort of quality uses that tone unless they have an axe to grind with the subjects involved.
Whoever wrote it clearly has a bias against the Phillies regardless if truths were revealed or not. And they were, but it comes off as petty and unprofessional.
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Falls in line with everything I've said and I agree with it. The Phillies will have to outbid the Yankees by a wide margin. "Stupid money" is what it'll take. I just don't see it. Imagine hitting in that lineup compared to hitting in the Phillies lineup. Harper is drawing interest from the Dodgers, another team with deep pockets. "Stupid money" to the Phillies is normal money for the Dodgers and Yankees.
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No writer of any sort of quality uses that tone unless they have an axe to grind with the subjects involved.
Whoever wrote it clearly has a bias against the Phillies regardless if truths were revealed or not. And they were, but it comes off as petty and unprofessional.
kenny rosenthal is a legend who might be in the HOF someday and never has and never will have bias....honestly who would care about such a bland franchise like the phils to even have a bias
him spittin hot truth darts at your team might upset you but theres no bias
Falls in line with everything I've said and I agree with it. The Phillies will have to outbid the Yankees by a wide margin. "Stupid money" is what it'll take. I just don't see it. Imagine hitting in that lineup compared to hitting in the Phillies lineup. Harper is drawing interest from the Dodgers, another team with deep pockets. "Stupid money" to the Phillies is normal money for the Dodgers and Yankees.
stupid money to the phillies describes how they spend it
stupid money to the red sox yanks and dodgers describes how much they have
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the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN
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How can you argue with someone who uses “spittin hot truth darts” in a sentence.
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How can you argue with someone who uses “spittin hot truth darts” in a sentence.
respect the skillz biotch.
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How can you argue with someone who uses “spittin hot truth darts” in a sentence.
even though your take was terrible this is a good point
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the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN
But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?
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the phillies were always going to have to outspend everyone to get manny....good job cracking that case, BDN
But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?
hes posted approximately 700 times in the last year or two that the phillies were the clear favorite for at least one of machado/harper and that they were on an even playing field with the yanks sox dodgers etc...
they might not even be on the white sox level
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i never in 100 years said that they were on an even playing field with those teams....im not even sure what that means. they are positioned to get 1 because they could (potentially) outspend those teams. as it turns out they only need to outspend 1 to get MM. harper they might be competing against themselves.
But I thought you said signing Carlos Santana would give the Phillies credibility so free agents would want to sign here?
that was part of why they signed him (it didnt work, hoskins cant play LF), but i have no idea what that has to do with needing to outbid everyone to get MM. it wasnt always going to be as simple as outbidding...they were going to have to show they were on the right path to winning, make him feel like hes not walking into a minor league clubhouse, have some guys he could connect with, etc. thats what santana was about.
segura and mccutchen sort of assume that role now. but more so they won 80 games last year, have gotten slightly better this winter and can pitch it to manny that with him theyre winning 90+ games. plus, give him more money than anyone has ever got.
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$400M should get it done. All the cancer pusher has to do is cut the check.
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no MM decision until 2019
happy new year
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$400M should get it done. All the cancer pusher has to do is cut the check.
396 for the yankees
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And there you have it
https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-harper-manny-machado-reportedly-dont-like-idea-playing-philadelphia-024356728.html
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well if joel sherman throws it deep into a notes column, you know its true
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You’re like a Trump supporter
#MPGA
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go get trout.
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You’re like a Trump supporter
#MPGA
i dont think the phillies are getting either but they will offer the most money and some random blurb from a low level writer has no bearing on reality
go get trout.
i know socioeconomically speaking you are poor white trash but that doesnt mean you can blurt out nonsense like this and expect me not to cock slap you.
trout isnt a free agent until following the 2020 season. he is highly unlikely to be traded before then. if the angels season is in the gutter in summer 2020, perhaps then a trade will occur. but this is all hinging on him not signing a major extension which is the most likely outcome. the extension wont happen will MM and BH sign.
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yeah, i know its a pipedream, much like you having a cock is.
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I’d rather wait for Trout.
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get all three
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Let’s not get stupid now
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You're all super cool guys.
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The team salary might be less, but Harper is marketable enough that any competent agent is going to be able to steer more money into his hands if he’s playing in LA or NYC, unless the Phillies outbid by a truly insane amount.
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phillies go 2/21 on robertson after refusing to go 2/25 on miller
0.85 and 1.03 whips the last 2 years. this is better than i was anticipating.
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monster offseason!!
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The Phillies signed David Robertson. Solid get.
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The Phillies signed David Robertson. Solid get.
nice whips the last two years.
that stuff matters.
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yes, preventing people from reaching base matters
thank you
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34 year old relievers history even recent history is meaningless...could he have a 2.15 era and 1.00 whip next year sure....but he could also go 4.12 and 1.19
they have a trillion right handed arms in the organization that id much rather try as a reliever
this is the phillies signing a guy as if they signed harper and machado and are contenders
its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important
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He’s a good reliever and they signed him for reasonable dough. I like it.
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34 year old relievers history even recent history is meaningless...could he have a 2.15 era and 1.00 whip next year sure....but he could also go 4.12 and 1.19
they have a trillion right handed arms in the organization that id much rather try as a reliever
this is the phillies signing a guy as if they signed harper and machado and are contenders
its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important
Spot on assessment. I could sort of understand the move if he was a lefty and they were contenders but this falls into the Carlos Santana why signing
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So they’re not contenders if they sign Machado and/or Harper?
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“If”
And no
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You do know that Robertson is actually tougher on lefthanders than righties, right? Plus he’s willing to pitch anywhere provided they’re in high pressure situations.
He’s been one of the better relievers in baseball for a while. How valuable would he have been last year during the August and September freefall?
I like the signing. To me it’s logical if they view themselves as contenders, and they are if they hook either one or two or both of the big fish.
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So they’re not contenders if they sign Machado and/or Harper?
Correct!
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its an eh move at best and will look even worse in spring training if they have whiffed on everything important
its more of meh move because 2 years at 10 per is basically nothing. the tommy hunter and pat neshek moves were much worse and even those didnt mean anything. its not like they gave him 5 years.
You do know that Robertson is actually tougher on lefthanders than righties, right? Plus he’s willing to pitch anywhere provided they’re in high pressure situations.
this is strangely a good baseball point by rome. robertson has reverse splits and doesnt care if hes used in the 7th 8th or 9th. career wise, he gives up a 546 ops against left handers. andrew miller? 659. britton? 604.
now of course his first appearance against freeman he is going to give up a 3 run homer because its the phillies and this is what happens, but the logic is solid.
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doesnt matter who he is better against...no one cares about watching dave farging robertson (or for that matter andrew miller) pitch meaningless phillie games...
again if they sign machado or harper and trade for a starter or whatever else they need to do to become contenders then fine ill take the veteran over the system....or even if robertson was 27 and they signed him to five years i guess it would mean something
otherwise its a less than meaningless move
they literally have a dozen potential bullpen arms that if developed and successful will be pitching when games matter....i wanna see them find those guys
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again if they sign machado or harper and trade for a starter or whatever else they need to do to become contenders then fine ill take the veteran over the system....or even if robertson was 27 and they signed him to five years i guess it would mean something
otherwise its a less than meaningless move
youre still going to see all of those guys. they can really only have 4/5 roster lock RPs. the other spots go to guys with options. so the guys on the fringes of the roster and in AA/AAA will get opportunities. i think both hunter and neshek are gone, even if they have to eat the money.
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robertson is gonna chew up what 60-70 innings?
id rather every last one of them go to kids
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That’s nice. They won’t. They’ll go to the guy they signed. Sorry.
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I didn't know you were a Facebook housewife. Got any essential oils for sale?
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I went with my daughter to Bath & Body Works to buy my wife Christmas gifts. I took one step in there and said nope. Handed the kid $50 and said get whatever you think she’d want. Scary shtein.
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you really put an effort into your Christmas shopping.
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you really put an effort into your Christmas shopping.
Turns out that’s like 10 bottles of goo.
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yankees are out on MM and were actually never really in
phils and chisox have made the offers....here we go
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And now I'm seeing an article saying Harper to Phillies is now a stronger possibility than it was previously.
Are they trying to superteam it?
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Take it for what you will: Phillies to hire Manny Machado’s mentor, Bobby Dickerson, from Baltimore (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-hire-manny-machados-mentor-bobby-dickerson-baltimore)
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Take it for what you will: Phillies to hire Manny Machado’s mentor, Bobby Dickerson, from Baltimore (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/phillies-hire-manny-machados-mentor-bobby-dickerson-baltimore)
im guessing chicago signing his two best buds means more but neither probably mean much of anything
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the yankees signing lamaheiu means a lot...they are out
chisox or phils. or he takes a 1-year kick the can down the road deal with the dodgers or something.
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yankees are out on MM and were actually never really in
the yankees signing lamaheiu means a lot...they are out
lol
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what did i tell you 3 years ago you fossil
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so the yankees have always been out...but the signing of lamaheiu today "means a lot" because it means they are out on machado...were they out three years ago or were they in until today?...im confused
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How in the farg could they possibly go to arbitration with Nola?
Morons
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Cue a certain dumbass to assure us that it’s all part of the process. Nothing to see here. Move along...
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i dont see why anyone would care about an arb debate between a player and team but here we are
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Cue a certain dumbass to assure us that it’s all part of the process. Nothing to see here. Move along...
i dont see why anyone would care about an arb debate between a player and team but here we are
lololol
how can someone be so predictable and also amazing at the same time...it should be boring but its not
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someone is going to have to explain to me why this matters because i genuinely dont get it
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https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1085304345317519361
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I'd rather sign Machado then go after Trout in two years.
Heard Stark on the radio today say would you rather have Machado/Harper this year or Arenado/Trout next year or whatever. Obviously just a hypoethical but that's a risk
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Why couldn’t they go after Trout? farg that. They have the dough. Get.
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shtein they pull any of this shtein off I'll be all "Nick who? Alshon what?"
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if you sign machado and harper now it pretty much takes you out of the trout running in 2 years...thats like 90 mil+ tied up in 3 players, which isnt even feasible
trout is really the only superstar who would want to sign here. hes a weirdo who likes dumpy jersey diners and the eagles.
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https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1085587294730502147
I mean, shtein if this is true....why not just throw 8 years and 200 mil at him? That leaves more than enough room to make a run at Trout in 2 years.
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25797148/kris-bryant-chicago-cubs-frustrated-unsigned-bryce-harper-manny-machado
Funny stuff considering it’s their own fault for not signing already. Teams aren’t willing to back up the armored trucks and dump loads of cash anymore, mostly because they can’t. A few can but most of them are already tied up. That’s limited their choices. It’s basic economics at work.
But sure, blame the teams for refusing to be extorted because that’s productive.
Also - Winter Storm Harper is about to unload on the northeast. Coincidence? 😆
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I’m not sure what constitutes an armored truck but Harper has already been offered at least 300 million
the loser in all this is going to be whatever teams who have been in the mix that don’t get one of these guys
I can’t even imagine the embarrassment for the white sox or Phillies if either organization whiffs on both
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I notice he didn’t actually take it. I’m thinking maybe that was Borashtein?
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boras went into the whole thing with the intention of getting the biggest contract of all time so yes
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Boras could still swindle someone into giving Brycie his dough, but it sure looks more probable he’ll end up getting the highest AAV for a shorter term. That would be ideal for the Phillies because they have the most room and the most to give.
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the white sox are in the fake sweepstakes...they are a bottom 5 team with no fan base...they are pretending to be in to say they were in....the phillies are IN and if they whiff they are never living it down
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This Harper/Machado melodrama is the dumbest thing ever. Pick a team already, iceholes.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/told-of-girls-assault-at-spring-training-hotel-gabe-kapler-dodgers-didnt-alert-police/2019/02/01/45da0208-2624-11e9-81fd-b7b05d5bed90_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3ksETQwCUnvPJDvccgNORLBQ1ZVkDVh_nLtWfSMe0jqBTGwXsv9CAS6Bc&noredirect=on&utm_term=.f5806be4da92
Holy farging shtein.
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words can’t express how unsurprising this is...only surprising thing is that Kapler didn’t roofie her
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His solution after she was sexually assaulted by a Dodgers employee, plied with booze and beaten by two adult women was to invite all to dinner to chat about it.
I mean OH MY GOD.
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Sounds like Kapler went above and beyond to me
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Lol
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not that anyone was coming here anyway but they def aren’t now
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dusty wathan's dick just got hard
i will say i have seen zero chatter from the phillies beats on this
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It’s back page news now.
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Kapler's Statement:
Many of you may be aware of the recent accusations made against the Dodgers and me. I thought that the best thing I could do to explain my actions in this situation would be to walk everyone through my involvement in these events from start to finish.
Before we begin, I want to make one thing clear: There is an allegation that I concealed or otherwise mishandled a sexual assault claim. This is 100% not true. There was no allegation of sexual assault made to me during my handling of this incident.
Now, I’d like to share what happened.
I was contacted by the grandmother of the victim the night of February 24th, 2015 via my Dodgers email address. This email contained a written account of an incident that had taken place the night before involving two Dodgers minor league players. I called the grandmother to confirm what had happened. Then, I spoke to the players involved. One player had no recollection of the events at all (all parties agreed that he was passed out due to overconsumption of alcohol during the relevant period and was not a participant or witness to the event). The other confirmed in broad outlines what was said by the grandmother. The next evening, February 25th, the victim sent an email to my Dodgers email address containing her written account of what happened.
All three of the accounts described a serious situation, but there was no allegation of sexual assault.
That situation was, in sum:
– Two players and two women met the individual in question. The group of five returned to the hotel room where one of the players was staying.
– One player passed out on the bed.
– The victim vomited on the other bed due to alcohol intoxication.
– The two women proceeded to hit her on the head and poured water on her.
– The other player shared a video clip of the incident on Snapchat.
– The two women asked the victim to leave.
I worked to learn what happened from the players involved, the victim, and the grandmother. All three accounts independently outlined the same events. While a serious physical assault allegation was made against the two women in the room (in an environment that the two players helped to create), none of these accounts involved any sexual assault allegations, and no physical assault allegations were made against either Dodgers player. I and others at the Dodgers still took their role in the incident very seriously and proceeded to act with the information that we had.
Both players admitted their role in the incident and felt remorseful that their actions helped to create a situation that allowed these events to occur in their presence. The two players wanted to apologize directly to the victim for their poor decision making and lack of responsibility or maturity. To facilitate this, and with the understanding (as recounted by all parties I spoke to) that there was no physical or sexual encounters between the players and the alleged victim, I suggested a meeting in order for the players to apologize. The sole purpose was to provide the opportunity for the victim to receive an apology in a controlled environment with supervision, and to educate the players on how to be accountable. The meeting was suggested to the victim, and she declined. We respected her wishes and dropped the idea.
Subsequently, I received three emails (two from the grandmother, one from the victim) requesting financial assistance in some way (“I would appreciate any type of offer”). I felt a request of this nature was above my paygrade. I shared this information with people within the Dodgers. I did not reply to these requests, I did not provide financial assistance, I did not offer to provide financial assistance, and I did not engage in any negotiations of the sort.
The question of why I didn’t report this to the police is a fair one. Admittedly, there were many thoughts going through my mind at the time. But above all, the victim’s grandmother asked for my reassurance that I wouldn’t “turn [the victim] in” before the victim would share what had happened. After the victim shared her description of the night, she sent me a follow up email and said she didn’t want to talk about it any further. My feeling at the time was that the victim should have the right to make the decision about what she wanted to do. Perhaps I should have taken it out of her hands, but my intention was to respect the victim and her wishes.
In addition to my own involvement with this process, I alerted my supervisor and the Dodgers legal department to allow them to handle whatever employment and legal consequences were deemed appropriate to the situation. It should be noted that because the incident occurred in February, minor league players had not yet reported to camp. There were no formal baseball activities. I could not then suspend or bench the players or pull them from games – there were none going on at that time.
Again, at the time and as far as I was aware, there were no claims that either player assaulted anyone in any way (sexually or otherwise). While others determined the consequences for the players from a legal and social perspective, I and others in player development took steps to work on their decision-making skills.
On March 4th, 2015, the player in question asked for assistance in securing an attorney as he had been contacted by the police. I passed that request to the appropriate parties within the Dodgers. That same day, I was notified that the Dodgers would be hiring an attorney to represent the player. At the request of the player’s attorney, I shared with him all communications I had with the victim and the grandmother. The attorney followed up with me on March 6th, 2015 “regarding the police investigation of an incident that occurred at the Hampton Inn in Glendale on February 23-24, 2015” to thank me for sharing the information. At this point, I understood that this situation was in the hands of the police and the legal system and that my role was complete. My understanding is that there was no prosecution based on the results of that investigation. By the time the investigation concluded, the player had already been released from the Dodgers.
Ultimately, I tried to make the best possible decisions I could to ensure that this incident was handled appropriately and to refer the situation to the proper individuals at the Dodgers. I acted based on what I knew at the time based on written accounts and discussions. I believe my actions respected the victim, her situation, the player, and my role at the Dodgers.
I take violence against women, especially sexual violence, incredibly seriously. In this particular case, the notion that a sexual assault had taken place was never brought up during the time that I was involved in responding. There is a big difference between responding to a player who displayed an unacceptable lack of judgment and one that assaulted a woman. I am well aware of that difference, and I assure you that I would have acted differently if at the time I was involved I had reason to believe that a sexual assault had occurred.
In short, I believed everything that the victim told me throughout the process, and I acted based on that information to the best of my ability. During my handling of this situation, I had no reason to suspect that a sexual assault was alleged. I tried to make the players involved aware of their poor decisions, and I tried to encourage them to make proper decisions in the future. I believe I acted with the best intentions based on what I knew at the time. My goal in every interaction is to always act with integrity and to treat everyone with respect, and I believe my actions reflected those principles.
Thanks for reading.
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More trade rumors that probably won't happen: J.T. Realmuto (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/source-phillies-have-indeed-had-trade-talks-marlins-regarding-jt-realmuto?fbclid=IwAR1wZS8xdnvTrejd2E145fF94VqhDyLqc8TxlbHkAOGxv7OCW-tMpHP_CQw)
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Horrible offseason by baseball.
Yawn.
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j your lukewarm takes are making me legit angry
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When Harper signs with the Giants buckle up, the rage will kick in.
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More trade rumors that probably won't happen: J.T. Realmuto (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/source-phillies-have-indeed-had-trade-talks-marlins-regarding-jt-realmuto?fbclid=IwAR1wZS8xdnvTrejd2E145fF94VqhDyLqc8TxlbHkAOGxv7OCW-tMpHP_CQw)
Supposedly the Marlins are demanding Sixto Sanchez be included in the deal.
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just an amazing risk with the sixto trade...he could never reach AAA or he could be destroying them for 8 years in the division
realmuto is probably the best catcher in baseball. with this trade they absolutely have to sign bryce
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sixto is garbage
id worry more about alfaro developing and even that is not so risky as hes gonna be 26
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Sixto’s only 20, my concern with him is his arm falling off in a few years. I like Alfaro but if they can upgrade with Realmuto it’s really a no-brainer. The Marlins supposedly want another prospect or two. If they pull this trade off and can add either Machado or Harper their lineup will be legit.
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the problem with the trade and im not against it is not that they are giving up guys that will be awesome later....its that if they give up three/four guys just for realmuto they really hurt their asset pool to potentially get other players who are better and or at a more important position
like why not keep all your assets and just increase your offer to harper or machado or both....i dont totally get going HAM with prospects for realmuto but not HAM with money for harchado
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thats a fair point
also keep in mind...the upgrade from alfaro to realmuto is real and its spectacular. alfaro is a pretty much garbage offensively and seriously flawed defensively. he might well improve but i dont see it. realmuto is the real deal. they are going from a bottom-tier catcher to a top 3.
with that said, the gap between realmuto and the rest of the catchers is significant. you are buying a ton of positional value here. the production they will get out of catcher is going to be so much better than the mets, nats and braves get. there is next to no catching talent in MLB right now, except for this guy and maybe sanchez.
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id rather have a chooch at C and harper/machado + SP1/2
than realmuto and harper/machado
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chooch doesnt exist anymore and there really no attainable comps for him.
it is fair to say, hold these assets off for a potential trade for a SP in july or next winter. they are most likely going to need an upgrade there unless like eflin makes a huge leap.
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Trade is official. They gave up an additional meh prospect in Stewart and some overseas salary money
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i would not call stewart a meh prospect...really good season in lakewood last year. sub 1 whip in 20 starts. unlikely to be a cy young contender but isnt a throw in by any means
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He doesn’t crack their top 30 prospects, he’s the epitome of a meh prospect
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Will Stewart topped Lakewood in innings. He is something, the evaluators all agreed. What that is remains to be seen. Stewart, a 21-year-old former 20th round pick, started 20 games and finished with a 2.03 ERA. He posted the lowest strikeout rate (20.5 percent) on the team. But his 62.1 percent ground-ball rate was the highest in the South Atlantic League and among the top five highest ground-ball rates in all of minor-league baseball, according to FanGraphs data.
“He just throws strikes,” an AL scout said. “Three pitches for strikes. Long ways to go.”
Stewart, a lefty, throws his sinker between 88 and 94 mph. He’ll lean on his changeup. The two breaking balls sometimes showed well. What evaluators saw was a prospect who pitched above his age, with an advanced feel for his secondary pitches. The Phillies shut him down at 113 2/3 innings, so he did not pitch in the postseason.
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He doesn’t crack their top 30 prospects, he’s the epitome of a meh prospect
hes in the 20's on almost every list ive seen but hes trash....it was a complete relief seeing him in there and not a real prospect
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Alfaro is a decent starting catcher, the other kid is eh and Sanchez is a fireballing question mark with potential HOF shtein. I hate to see him go, but they got a young all-star catcher back in return.
You gotta do what you gotta do...
I think the trade is pretty fair for both sides, actually.
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And maybe Harper and Machado have already said no, so why wait?
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They’re still waiting and they just addressed a concern possibly shared by both of them in terms of potential lineup firepower? Because they definitely and immediately improved with him in the lineup every night.
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baseball is so boring. more like fakemuto amirite.
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And maybe Harper and Machado have already said no, so why wait
it turns into a debacle of a trade if they dont get Harper...not saying he isn’t going to the phils but there’s no chance they do this deal if they know they aren’t getting him
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It’s not a debacle. They upgraded the thinnest position in baseball with an all-star and arguably the best player at his position last year. They provided Hoskins with protection in the lineup. He’s still 27 and they have two seasons before he reaches FA, so they have cost certainty at a critical position.
Strictly from a “win now” perspective, he’s every bit as important a get as Machado would be. Harper would be a titanic get, that’s true, and I hope they get him despite my blind hatred of him.
But... if they don’t, and they’re only “stuck” with Realmuto for two years... who else becomes a FA after 2020? Trout.
And maybe he’s the ultimate end game here. Eggs. Basket. Whatever.
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yes it is
in fact it’s an amazingly idiotic trade if they don’t at minimum get Harper but really they need him and a pitcher
you don’t trade all that for a catcher that is better but not crazy better than Ramos or grandal just to lose for the next few years
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hes actually crazy better than ramos...ramos is fat and cant move
grandal is horribly inconsistent
but im with you this trade is a disaster if no bryce or manny
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https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/aaron-nola-phillies-reach-long-term-contract-extension
Boom
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Harper is a Phillie. I’m calling it.
Someone get Jay some smiling salts.
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Can we have Manny too please
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theyre not getting both and id rather have bryce
manny wants to go to the yankees but the yankees dont want him....anyone who gets him is getting a im here for the $$ guy
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Harper is a Phillie. I’m calling it.
Someone get Jay some smiling salts.
The both of them, and their agents, can farg off.
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I’m so proud that you’ve grown into a jaded, bitter old farger.
😆
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What, no news yet? I'm shocked, I thought this time was really it... ::)
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i know the pro management mentality had a hold on MAGA chuds, trump apologists and geriatric fake liberals like romey...but they even have the j's of the world now
sad reality
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I hope they bust the bank. But this should have been done months ago. And it could have been in Harper’s case considering he was allegedly offered $300M over 10 yrs by his former team. I mean how much more do you really need? Is the extra $10M he’s said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?
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Is the extra $10M he’s said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?
All what? I'm sure he's relaxing somewhere. It's the baseball fans who think that what is happening now represents some kind of crisis. Skipping spring training to earn a few more million sounds like a good deal to me.
I do think it's somewhat unsightly to drag on for so long, so MLB should try to figure out how to have a more defined free agency period that ends before actual baseball starts. But it seems like the management, agents, and players are all behaving the way the current system incentivizes them to behave.
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I’m talking about the effect it’s having on the market. As long as these two pins are standing, it seems like little else is going to move.
Then again if this is a concerted effort by the owners not to sign a swath of elite talent, the players certainly have grounds for collusion charges down the line.
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I mean how much more do you really need? Is the extra $10M he’s said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?
why dont you ask the billionaire owners that
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I mean how much more do you really need? Is the extra $10M he’s said to have been offered by the Phillies really worth all this?
why dont you ask the billionaire owners that
This is disingenuous.
$200-$300 Million vs. Billions. To people making <$40,000 and struggling to make ends meet, does it really matter? At this point, both of them are the haves.
Minor leaguers... or at least the ones that didn't get gigantic bonuses, you have a case for. Right now, though, Freddy Galvis will make more this year than I will in my entire working life. And I'm doing better than many in this country.
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I’m just a tad right of Leon Trotsky when it comes to economics, but somehow that simpleton has me sympathizing with the “plight” of billionaires.
It really is funny.
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This is disingenuous.
$200-$300 Million vs. Billions. To people making <$40,000 and struggling to make ends meet, does it really matter? At this point, both of them are the haves.
Minor leaguers... or at least the ones that didn't get gigantic bonuses, you have a case for. Right now, though, Freddy Galvis will make more this year than I will in my entire working life. And I'm doing better than many in this country.
i dont even know what this means....everybody should fight for every penny theyre worth. bryce getting 2 million more vs. john middleton keeping 2 million. who ya got? the answer is who cares but if im bryce i want those 2 extra bills.
the economics of the game are broken and a strike might be forthcoming. i dont doubt that and would love to see everyone go to bat for the career minor leaguers and fringe players who need union backing and power more than the established players who are haggling over 35 and 30 million do.
i will never side with business over labor, i dont care if labor makes millions. power to the people.
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Speaking of which:
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801
Sean Doolittle the GOAT
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This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801
Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.
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i know the pro management mentality had a hold on MAGA chuds, trump apologists and geriatric fake liberals like romey...but they even have the j's of the world now
sad reality
Management can farg off too. I’ll side with players most of the time especially when it comes to labor issues for the most part.
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This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801
Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.
Ugh. I’m a new era fanboy. Legit love their hats.
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I’m so proud that you’ve grown into a jaded, bitter old farger.
😆
Lol I’m almost 40! Time for me to get salty.
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This shtein, however...
https://twitter.com/whatwouldDOOdo/status/1097565028142796801
Pay your damn taxes, millionaires.
Ugh. I’m a new era fanboy. Legit love their hats.
Ah I farged up the second tweet...this one was supposed to be how Manny and Harper are getting loopholes in their contracts so they don’t have to pay state taxes on millions of dollars. farg that shtein
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Ah I farged up the second tweet...this one was supposed to be how Manny and Harper are getting loopholes in their contracts so they don’t have to pay state taxes on millions of dollars. farg that shtein
How would that even be possible? I understand the "loophole" of the teams effectively paying the state tax with a bigger check. Two private entities can't draw up a contract that cancels out state taxes though.
You sure this wasn't about the teams avoiding the MLB "luxury tax"?
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Nah it was something about signing bonuses and them being taxed on where they live (income tax free states) vs where they would be working. Now im gonna have to find the damn tweet
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https://twitter.com/sportstaxman/status/1097641126968860674 21
I guess there are rules around signing bonuses and deferred comp that can avoid state taxes if the language is written right?
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Management can farg off too. I’ll side with players most of the time especially when it comes to labor issues for the most part.
fred wilpon deserves another yacht
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Machado’s a Padre
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lol if the padres get one of these guys and the phillies dont
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busta bus is at nats camp today and was just live on espn saying he is getting zero sense that the nats are getting back in the harper sweepstakes
this is good cause I always thought and still kinda do that he wasn't leaving there
like everyone else he favors the phillies but says watch out for the white sox now that they lost out on machado
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San Diego is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. He could have done worse.
That’s a shtein load of money for them to pay out, though. If he’s worth that, Trout might be worth half a billion over ten.
PS: Good for Manny.
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like everyone else he favors the phillies but says watch out for the white sox now that they lost out on machado
white sox wouldnt get to 300 for machado
if the phillies get outbid by them and lose machado to SD they should take away the 08 world series
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im not saying chi is or isnt getting harper but harper is worth more than machado and you tend to spend more once you lose the first chip...mannys 300 doesn't have a ton to do with harper
I still think he goes back to wash
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10/375 for Harper based on that deal. Only 1 team will pay it.
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I still think he goes back to wash
Always thought this as well. Phils are being used
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By the Nats? That’s just dumb. Boras has a lot at stake with the Phillies. He’s not going to use them like that for a single client.
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By the Nats? That’s just dumb. Boras has a lot at stake with the Phillies. He’s not going to use them like that for a single client.
He’s using every team at his disposal but the Phillies are the team most linked...ultimately I don’t think Harper wants to leave the Nats so anything not above and beyond what they’re offering he’s probably staying.
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White Sox front office is pissed!
The Chicago #WhiteSox's final offer to Manny Machado was an eight-year, $250 million guarantee with a $35 million option in 2027 a $35 million option in 2028, making the potential total worth $320 million. The option years vested with 550 plate appearances the previous season
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Options in years 9 and 10 don't mean shtein. The whole point of signing these decade contracts instead of a series of short term contracts is to get them to pay big bucks for your Albert Pujols years at the end. And by 2028, $35 million might be the average house price in San Diego anyway.
On the off chance Machado is still a high functioning baseball player at that point, someone else will be glad to pay him that on a short-term deal.
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Machado has an out after 5 years anyway
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So Cole Irvin is starting the first game of spring training for the Fightin' Phils. Just one question: Who's Cole Irvin?
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this isnt saying much in the phillies system but hes the most major league ready lefty SP they have
i actually saw him pitch with reading summer before last....looked like a junk throwing weakling to me...kinda reminded me of a young jamie moyer
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hes not even on their 40 man
they called up ranger suarez and de los santos last year for spot starts over him....irvin might get a crack this year but he tops out at fringe starter
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Hopefully he can survive socialism
Yhoswar Garcia, OF, Venezuela
Team: Phillies
Garcia has an exciting tool set in a lean, athletic 6-foot frame. He's a plus-plus runner who defends his position well in center field with a strong arm. He's a righthanded hitter who has also performed well in games against professional pitching, with a hit-over-power offensive profile. If he retains his speed and keeps hitting the way he has recently, he could develop into a player along the lines of Nationals center fielder Victor Robles. Garcia trains with Roberto Vahlis.
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And by 2028, $35 million might be the average house price in San Diego anyway.
:-D :-D :-D
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hes not even on their 40 man
that's cause he has no upside like some others
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https://twitter.com/CRicchini/status/1098739759197929472
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the twitter chatter is that word will leak tomorrow just before the machado presser as a boras FU to lozano
i just want this to be over so whatever just do it
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lol at Twitter chatter
you do realize that 99% of tweets are fake news
tell me you know this?
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i dont respond to that term, trumper
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unless it links to a fact based article all tweets are pretty much bullshtein
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“We haven’t heard from them (Boras and Co.) in a couple months” - Mark Lerner
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1-0
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https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/jet-belonging-phillies-owner-john-middleton-bryce-harpers-hometown-las-vegas
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how bad does Harper not want to go to philly
after four months of free agency when basically every other team has dropped out the Phillies still have to fly an owner across the country to persuade him during a farging “meet n greet”
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Nm
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It’s embarrassing that a billionaire several times over has to fly 2,500 miles to beg a guy to take $350,000,000 (or more) to play there.
The longer it goes the worse it looks for everyone. Harper better get his farging laundry dirty and run out every groundout if he does sign. Otherwise... yikes.
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I wish the Phils would just back off. Don’t want to play here then peace out, go sign with someone else. Use the money to sign Kuechel.
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I still want him but I’m leaning further and further to that side...might be time to move on rather than give 300+ million to guy that doesn’t wanna be here
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bryce's ego is too big for him to dog it if he signs here....if hes signs hes IN.....but if he hasnt signed yet despite nobody else wanting him i dont know if he ever will
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dogging it isn’t the issue
being miserable is
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I still want him but I’m leaning further and further to that side...might be time to move on rather than give 300+ million to guy that doesn’t wanna be here
Harper = asses in the seats
That’s the bottom line in all of this, Phils don’t have a marquee player. As much as I like their offseason none of the names they added are stars. 2020 FA pitching market is stacked, would rather spend the money on another stud then put up with this bullshtein.
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I’m with SD on this, don’t even want Harper at this point. He’d be miserable after two years and want out.
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Andrew McCutchen on why he signed with Phillies: “Did you see what they offered me?”
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https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1099491749578317825
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Ha. J-Roll really is the GOAT. That look was pure awesomeness.
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dogging it isn’t the issue
being miserable is
Ask the 2008 core guys how miserable it was playing there for five years with sellouts every night and winning a lot being the key component. Philly is a great town to play in if you’re the right sort of guy. I have to admit I (like many others) despised Harper when he was a Nat, but I actually believe he’d love it there. The park is ideally suited for him, it’s a big city/major market with only one baseball team, and the fans will love him if he plays up to the insane deal he’s about to sign.
It’s going to get done, guys. I think this last bit of wrangling is actually about buyout language just in case it goes horribly wrong on either side. Money is literally no object.
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Now the Chuggies are offering a short term deal.
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Harper is a Phillie. I’m calling it.
Someone get Jay some smiling salts.
Mush
Dodgers make sense for him, he’s where he wants to be and can renegotiate in a few years. Instead of jerking him off and playing the Boras game the Dodgers sat back and kept their cards close to their vest to see how this played out. 99% sure he always wanted to play in LA but they used the Phillies for leverage. Maybe I’m wrong here - wouldn’t be the first time - but if he hasn’t signed by now after all the effort the Phillies put in there’s a reason beyond money.
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Bryce Harper is a ho and has been since he was a teenager
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I'm at the point where I could not care less whether the Phils signed him or not. They obviously could use the talent, but I'm not sure at this point if it wouldn't be outweighed by the drama.
Just looking forward to watching some baseball again.
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this is all boras' doing...bryce is just along for the ride
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Bryce Harper is a ho and has been since he was a teenager
haha
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j stopped watching sports a year or 2 ago but his decade long hatred of bryce remains
its one thing to hate the guy for his MAGAness and douche hair...j bird hates him because of something or other his dad did for him when he was 15. its mind boggling.
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If Boras used Middleton like that there will be fallout. Billionaires don’t like being farged with and they sure as hell don’t like being used like a cum sock by some shyster agent.
If you think things are ugly between labor and ownership now, just watch how bad it gets if that’s going on.
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john middleton might have the least sway in the history of billionaires
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john middleton might have the least sway in the history of billionaires
lol...exactly...I’m sure Boras is quaking in his gold plated boots
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https://twitter.com/randyjmiller/status/1100510574146961408 21
Go away Bryce, hope they get Arenado and Trout the next couple years
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That tweet smells like pure bullshtein, but at some point, "stupid money" becomes actually stupid.
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I can’t wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger. If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?
Also - I’m pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras. He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up.
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Well, Arenado is off the table now anyway. Sigh.
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I can’t wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger. If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?
Also - I’m pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras. He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up.
I just pictured some Delco douche launching a chainsaw onto the field and can’t stop laughing
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I can’t wait to see the reaction the first time Harper steps foot on the field in Philly as a Giant or Dodger. If Drew had batteries thrown at him, what will Harper get - toaster ovens, running chainsaws, bowling balls lit on fire?
Also - I’m pretty sure Middleton will remember the treatment he received by Boras. He screwed his own sister out of a fortune, so a leech like Boras better keep his head up.
boras would eat middletons whole family for lunch....they are not in the same league which is why middleton got played like a fiddle
phillies have money but otherwise everything else about them screams des moines
and the 4000 phillie fans that go to games aint gonna do shtein to harper cept watch him fire bombs in the bank just like jayson werth did
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And you’ll cheer every last one of them as they go out.
farging troll.
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***fart noise***
Welcome to Philly, Brycie. Hit better that .250 please.
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13yrs
$330m
No opt outs
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13yrs
$330m
No opt outs
Holy shtein never thought’d happen
Jay what size jersey do you take?
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Yay
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HE'S OURS
Text that interrupted my (unusually) quietly testing last period class.
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I don't know shtein about how baseball contracts work but i imagine being guaranteed for 13 years is pretty solid for a baseball player.
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I haven’t seen that anywhere. That’s only 25M and change. No way he took that.
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its everywhere. how did you miss it ?
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its everywhere. how did you miss it ?
Senility
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I haven’t seen the numbers breakdown. I’m working you cockholes. 🖕🏻🖕🏻
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its everywhere. how did you miss it ?
Senility
exactly.
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I’m working you cockholes. 🖕🏻🖕🏻
I call BS on this post.
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I just read Boras’s comments about the length. I’m legit surprised Harper wanted to end his career on one contract. It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years. Or an utter catastrophe. But probably a bargain.
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It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years. Or an utter catastrophe. But probably a bargain.
This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.
As for this season, the Phillies made enough quality moves to trick me into being interested. Well done you bastiches.
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This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.
march 2019
but legit i dont care this is why sports is fun...its ONLY $25 mil for the next 13 years. what could go wrong?
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It might turn out to be the bargain of the century in five or six years. Or an utter catastrophe. But probably a bargain.
This is a Philadelphia sports team we're talking about here. I assume the age 35+ years are gonna hurt. My only question is how early this contract could realistically be seen as a nightmare.
NL will prob have the DH soon enough. that should help done the road.
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The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires
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13yrs
$330m
No opt outs
Holy shtein never thought’d happen
Jay what size jersey do you take?
Lol
Xxl - wonder which number he’s gonna wear
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#54
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yo j paypal or cash app ya boi $60 for mlb tv...if you still like the phillies
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The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires
This always puts a smile on my face.
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#54
:-D
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#54
Nice lol
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yo j paypal or cash app ya boi $60 for mlb tv...if you still like the phillies
I think I might get it for free this year bc season ticket holders with the Astros get it. Im the one who runs our account so I gotta read the email. If not then I’ll send it to ya so I can watch and hope Harper isn’t Gregg Jefferies or Danny Tartabull
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Warning: Click the link in the tweet at your own risk. Eye bleach may be necessary.
https://twitter.com/JArrieta34/status/1101216574982172672
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the tick tock from verducci: https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/03/01/bryce-harper-philadelphia-phillies-contract-scott-boras
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nice article from MM
CLEARWATER, Fla. — The cheering started sporadically down the left field line at Spectrum Field.
Amid a meaningless spring training game Thursday afternoon, the news Phillies fans have anxiously waited for broke on Twitter: Bryce Harper had agreed to a 13-year, $330 million contract with Philadelphia. It is the largest guaranteed contract in American professional sports history. One Phillies fan yelled, “Bryce, woo!” after discovering the news. Another started a “Bry-ce Har-per!” chant. The ballpark buzzed.
Four fans sitting behind the coaches’ seats next to the on-deck circle provided moment-by-moment updates to Phillies manager Gabe Kapler and pitching coach Chris Young.
“They were telling us terms and who was tweeting what,” Kapler said. “We were like, ‘Well, who’s making the reports?’ We’ve got to make sure this person is credible. … They were holding their phones up so I could turn around and see the (tweets).”
Fittingly, the Phillies’ starting right fielder this afternoon informed teammates of Harper’s deal. Trevor Plouffe entered the clubhouse after being replaced in the fifth inning, grabbed a bottle of water and decided to check Twitter before working out. News of Harper’s record contract filled his feed. Plouffe alerted the handful of players who lingered in the clubhouse, including pitchers Aaron Nola, Nick Pivetta and Zach Eflin.
“Seriously?” Nola replied.
“The first thing we all thought was 13 years is a long time,” Plouffe said. “But obviously he thinks this is a place he can come and establish himself and look to win a World Series every year. That’s why he was in that position. He could sign anywhere he wanted to and for him to choose the Phillies and the city of Philadelphia speaks volumes for the way things are going and trending here.”
Nola and Harper faced off 36 times over the past four years. Now, instead of torturing Phillies fans at Citizens Bank Park, where he owns a .365 on-base percentage and .930 OPS with 14 home runs in 50 career games, Harper will get to put on a show for them. Any future battles with Nola will have to be resigned to live batting practice. Nola’s happy with that trade-off.
“He’s one of those guys in the lineup who can change the ballgame – he can change a ballgame with one swing,” Nola said.
“Ultimately, at the end of the day, it’s his decision. We can’t control that. We’re just glad he’s with us now. … He’s coming to a good fan base. He’s coming to an organization that cares about their players, families.”
Hours earlier, Phillies managing partner John Middleton stood by the half field next to the complex’s office entrance. He was casually observing pregame infield drills, what would end up being some of his last calm moments before the ensuing Harper-inspired excitement engulfed a fan base and energized the team.
Harper’s deal is a triumph for Middleton. The organization’s financial power was always going to be difficult for other organizations to contend with, and he delivered in luring a 26-year-old superstar to Philadelphia. These type of mega-free-agent deals don’t happen without ownership’s involvement and approval. Middleton signaled his seriousness with a trip to Las Vegas last Friday to meet with Harper, his wife and agent Scott Boras, though the groundwork for Middleton’s commitment to building a winner began last offseason.
Eleven months and 15 days ago, Middleton watched Jake Arrieta put on his new red Phillies jersey at the right-hander’s introductory press conference in Clearwater. Arrieta’s $75 million guaranteed contract is part of $507.75 million the Phillies have spent on seven free agents in the past two offseasons. They also gave Nola a $45 million extension and took on the $60.4 million remaining on shortstop Jean Segura’s contract. Nobody can claim the Phillies don’t spend money.
“I think it sends a message,” Middleton said on that morning last March. “It should. If I were sitting on another team, I’d say, hmm, these guys seem to be serious about this. … We’re serious about winning and we’re going to do what it takes to win.”
Middleton’s “stupid” money comment could have haunted him this offseason. Some Phillies fans would not have easily forgiven ownership and the front office had the franchise missed out on both Manny Machado and Harper. Instead, Harper — who has a no-trade clause and no opt outs in the contract, according to sources — is positioned to be a Phillie for the rest of his career.
Middleton, meanwhile, is building an image as an owner for whom money is no object in creating a winner. Middleton has been a limited partner in the Phillies’ ownership group since 1994, holding a 48 percent stake in the franchise. He was chosen as the team’s control person and managing partner in November 2016. Attracting a superstar in Harper legitimizes Middleton’s vision.
“Here’s a newsflash for you: John wants to win,” team president Andy MacPhail said on Feb. 15. “All of our ownership group wants to win.”
Middleton and the front office have given Kapler and his staff the personnel to succeed. On paper, the Phillies’ lineup is one of the best in the league. Another September collapse clearly won’t be acceptable. Making the playoffs becomes a requirement. Winning the National League East title for the first time since 2011 is the standard; capturing the pennant and reaching the World Series is a realistic goal. With Harper in the fold, the pressure rises to deliver. The Phillies are in win-now mode.
“We all want to be on that platform, the biggest platform in the game and that’s the World Series,” Eflin said. “For an addition like this, it’s definitely going to help that journey. Everybody in this clubhouse is ready to do that.”
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i dont know why this kinda shocks me but bryce harper is a year younger than mike trout
when trout is eligible for FA next he will be three years older than harper is now
just shows you how rare it is to have two guys as young and as good as harper and machado to be FA
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The Mets will still be paying the Bobby Bonilla deal 4 years after Harpers contract expires
I tossed that lil bit of info to diehard yesterday. he re-acted in true mets fan fashion.
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mets are also paying bret saberhagen until 2029
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mets are also paying bret saberhagen until 2029
Daryll Strawberry too although his debt was auctioned off by the IRS and is being paid out in monthly increments.
The Bonilla deferred payments were because the Mets ownership were making so much money in Madoff’s ponzi scheme.
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theres zero doubt they are going for trout in 2 years or that trout wants to come home...will it work who knows
but heres the thing: you can't have trout, harper, realmuto and hoskins all aging horribly in their mid 30s and all make a bunch of money. something's gotta give unless you want the worst team in baseball in 2028
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does it really matter if they win a couple of world series
really even if they dont does it matter...i mean if they go bust with harper then who the farg cares if they suck at the end of his deal...all people are going to care about is how they never won in his prime
they are going to more than likely suck no matter what then....its whats they do in harpers 26 to 34 (and hopefully trouts 29-34) seasons that matters
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i dont think this front office is going to sign themselves up for multiple seasons of bad baseball in exchange for a 4-5 year window. you can put a good team on the diamond even with a washed up trout/harper in 2029....you cant if youre also still paying a washed up realmuto and hoskins
obviously this upcoming window, with or without trout, is the chance, but they dont want it to be like it was post 2011 where you have 6 seasons in the wilderness
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theres zero doubt they are going for trout in 2 years or that trout wants to come home...will it work who knows
but heres the thing: you can't have trout, harper, realmuto and hoskins all aging horribly in their mid 30s and all make a bunch of money. something's gotta give unless you want the worst team in baseball in 2028
Nobody in their right mind is signing a 27 year old catcher for 10 years.
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im speaking in broad terms here mardigrassi....4 guys in their 30's all making big $ is not ideal.
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https://twitter.com/espn/status/1101555470110769153 21
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im speaking in broad terms here mardigrassi....4 guys in their 30's all making big $ is not ideal.
You’re speaking in broad terms but said mid-30’s? That’s not so broad.
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here's an unbroad term for you...vegas trash is here
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It’s hilarious he’s a Mormon
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Apparently Harper will take #3 with the Phils.
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Those shorts should've stayed in Vegas.
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Somehow someway I think he rings the bell tomorrow night
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Whose the clown in the swim trunks
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https://twitter.com/Phillies/status/1101837521258975232
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that photo is why ufc is more popular than baseball
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It's a bit early for you to be hitting the sauce, no?
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i knew bryce was MAGA trash but that pic really hit it home
maybe in 13 years he will be a fishtown hipster
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What a difference 15 months makes.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0qlJqYXQAIhdxM.jpg)
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bryce's mom has to be a former vegas stripper...there's no other way
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https://www.philly.com/phillies/bryce-harper-phillies-contract-john-middleton-scott-boras-details-20190303.html
Pretty impressive stuff for a guy who holds the distinction of having the least sway in the history of billionaires.
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hes going to be awesome on the dodgers this year
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Angels not Dodgers.
#tradeeverythingfortrout
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Angels not Dodgers.
#tradeeverythingfortrout
trout without harper would be anti productive
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saturday is harper day
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Angels not Dodgers.
#tradeeverythingfortrout
trout without harper would be anti productive
Actually yes but me and the kid were trading barbs.
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saturday is harper day
do i get props for buying seats in the right field stands for the home opener three months ago?
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you get props then immediately get them taken away because your negative presence will surely lead to a 9-3 loss where nola gets shelled and harper goes 0-3 with a walk.
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without question cept you forgot harper definitely having an error
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Anyone can call the Phillies. The number to the Citizens Bank Park offices is available, and most of the incoming calls are directed to the ticket sales staff. Sometimes, they are not. Bryce Harper was trending on Twitter on Jan. 29 because a social media account for a video game trolled Phillies fans. At least a dozen people called the ballpark offices that day asking if the Phillies had signed Harper. Kids, mostly.
Those conversations end at the reception desk. But, sometimes, a call is too good to not relay upstairs. A few days after the Eagles lost to the Saints in the postseason, a man called the ballpark. He was upset, and said he was a smoking a bong with some friends. “Open the checkbook and sign Bryce!” he told a receptionist.
That anecdote reached the executive level.
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its scary how much better gelb is than the other phillies writers.
hes going to be gone soon to cover mlb nationally
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So he’ll be up in smoke then?
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Tickets for seats tomorrow are a wee bit expensive. Like double-triple face value. Wow.
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sports fans have never proven to be the smartest people
and that pays a penny over face to see a spring training at bat is a fargtard
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i just looked and its still $20 for those OF seats...seats around home plate are $100. they are like $60 for sunday's game in the o's park.
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I’m going to the O’s game. I had tickets for that since January.
And you’re not paying for the quality, Havas. The party is what makes it fun.
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i get the spring training fun thing...ive been a few times...its awesome...but you can have the same amount of fun without paying double the ticket price for a bryce harper at bat
save your money and go to see them on a tuesday against the braves
then pay whatever for 9 innings of a bryce harper regular season game
i got right field for the home opener and am working on right field for the nats return opener...then i got the second nats game....jimmy number retirement...three may games in wrigley and two may games in milwaukee....so ill spend the money i just wouldnt go nuts to see him get his timing down in clearwater
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Just bought two against the Blue Jays for during my spring break.
Should I buy a Harper shirsey? :D
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I’d save my money for the $9 beers at the park and the strippers at Mons Venus afterward.
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Still blowing my mind this guy is locked in to be a Phillie for 13 fargin years. I get that some people want to be there for the beginning of what could be a 30 for 30, good or bad, but unless he somehow tears an Achilles nothing special is gonna happen there in Game 1.
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I'll be watching this today.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/efefe9388fbc81910a13104f188e906f/tenor.gif)
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What’s the date of Jimmys number retirement
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mid 2000s j >>>>>>>> (size of the galaxy) post eagles super bowl j
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What’s the date of Jimmys number retirement
May 4
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i cant wait for all these people going to the bank to see bryce hit bombs realize he walks in like 35% of his at bats
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I've seen my share of bombs hit in that stadium (Choke hit one to Route 19 once) but Hoskins' shot yesterday was a freaking laser beam.
Between Harper and Hoskins they might end up with 250 walks (they had 4 yesterday).
Jean Segura is the real deal at short. The play he made in the first was ridiculous.
I know it's early but we might be in for a fun summer and fall.
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mid 2000s j >>>>>>>> (size of the galaxy) post eagles super bowl j
A litttle truth to this. I’ll work my fervor back up eventually. Probably if the Phils don’t make the NLCS at least.
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What’s the date of Jimmys number retirement
May 4
farg.
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Mariners sent JP to AAA
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this is the kind of trade the phillies make, not do to another team
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Harper got hit by a pitch in the ankle and limped off the field. Didn’t look good
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCSPhilly/status/1106627762348089349?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Certainly didn’t sound good...jesus
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Got to see Adam Morgan and Hector pitch today. Felt like August 2018.
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Glad to see Harper be able to play today. Now for him to get his timing down.
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The video game story is not shocking.
Props to Santana for busting the TV
Thumbs down to Kapler for allowing it
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Who cares, at least someone was enjoying those late season games.
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Can you blame them for trying to play a game together where they have a chance of winning?
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Thumbs down to Kapler for allowing it
he didnt allow it so much as create an atmosphere where it could happen
regardless this is on the 2 players who did it. they should know its not a good look but millenials gonna fortnight
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Probably belongs in ROB but Trout is about to sign a 12 year $430 million deal with the Angels. Can’t say I blame him for taking that deal
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Probably belongs in ROB but Trout is about to sign a 12 year $430 million deal with the Angels. Can’t say I blame him for taking that deal
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a7f4f04ed9e53ff59c3de29f861d458e/tenor.gif?itemid=3555049)
Money's crazy now. Can't blame him at all for taking it. He'd be a fool if he didn't.
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Noooooooo
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Good for him even if it’s bad for us.
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Negative = sucks for us
Positive = he's not a Yankee, Red Sox and more importantly a Dodger, Met or anywhere in the NL
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If the Phillies want to have a Mike Trout, they have to learn how to draft and coach a Mike Trout.
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Sucks that Trout is signed. Dream squashed.
On another note - who were the video game players?
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*creams pants*
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2GpUKyWwAAYrCx.jpg)
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Bobby Abreu next up for the wall of fame
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I hope that the Phils get this craptastic offensive game out of their system before the regular season. Or maybe by tomorrow when the son and I are headed north to Clearwater to see the game.
And apparently Hoskins is nursing some shoulder injury. They're playing it down (the whole "no structural damage" thing), but it's something to keep an eye on. He's out until at least the weekend.
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Next up: Bake McBride
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please reference Haloti Ngata thread.
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when is Joe Table up for Wall of Fame discussion?
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Next up: Bake McBride
Just for this, damn straight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIwRFRLDxnQ
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man did pivetta look good today
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man did pivetta look good today
His last two outings were really good. If he can become a #2... [/wishful thinking]
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Nice McBride clip Geo. 39 years ago, damn. 1980-81 every Philadelphia team made it to their respective league championship, bums only ones to prevail as world champs.
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man did pivetta look good today
His last two outings were really good. If he can become a #2... [/wishful thinking]
hes been good all spring but today was next level filth that ive never seen from him
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They need him. Stating the obvious but since VV isn’t developing he’s got to be the third guy.
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Harper’s gone yard twice
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Harper's second homer was beautiful.
Damn, VV really sucks. "Vince, bullpen on line 1".
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They need him. Stating the obvious but since VV isn’t developing he’s got to be the third guy.
your no 3 is pivetta...maybe
most likely its someone currently playing for another team. what the phillies have in house is a lot of bottom of the rotation starters/organization depth. the best thing about their rotation is they have 3/4 guys in AAA who are not horrendous, which is kind of something.
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Hell of a lot of fun at Spectrum Field today. Both Harper homers were blasts. Son got an autograph from Jimmy Rollins. Bought him a #3 jersey. May have to sell blood to pay the bills later.
Vinny V is maddening to watch. He can be dominant to two strikes, then starts nibbling. He might start the year in the rotation, but he won't end it there.
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There are few places I’d wait in line to eat. This is one of them.
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Three farging K’s and a BB for $330M?
Boooooooo!
I did meet Middleton, though. He was seated right across from me in 112.
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Three farging K’s and a BB for $330M?
Boooooooo!
I did meet Middleton, though. He was seated right across from me in 112.
Should have met me there on Thursday, Rome. Two HR's from Mr. Hair, along with a handful of others, including one by a guy named Gift!
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It was hotter than July today. Jesus...
They bombed the shtein out of the ball, though, and without Hoskins or Realmuto too.
Altherr could be really good. Franco is a retard. The broads at the Tiki Bar are hot and they free pour Tito’s like a mofo.
A+ day.
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Altherr could be really good.
obscure prospect aaron altherr
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Altherr could be really good.
obscure prospect aaron altherr
lol...who stinks
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https://twitter.com/ToddZolecki/status/1110613338503946241
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Good news: That’s a 100 win lineup.
Bad news: Nola will only start 30 games.
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Good news: That’s a 100 win lineup.
Bad news: Nola will only start 30 games.
(https://thestudentvanguard.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/AP_vincent-velasquez-940x540-900x517.jpg)
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Todd... post a new season thread. If I do it you’ll cry like a bitch. Get on it.
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the 5 people on here dont need a new thread, grandpa
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We need some fresh luck in here, and sadly (not to mention amazingly) enough, you’re the one who has to provide it.
Just do me a favor, already...
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speaking of luck, i want everyone to watch this clip from like 2005
-harry
-sal fasano
-sal fasano's facial hair
-sal fasano blooper
-cn8 logo
-jon lieber
https://twitter.com/dhm/status/1111248614062542848
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Damn I miss harry
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Holy shtein Nola is dealing.
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Welcome to CBP McCutcheon.
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Tehran is a goddamn good pitcher. He settled down nicely after that first mistake.
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Acuna is going to be a pain in our ass. Damn he's good.
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I’m not sure why Nola is nibbling now. He was dominant in the first by bringing it to them. Weird.
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WTF Nola? Settle down. Acuna set this all up.
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That’s more like it. Challenge these bitches.
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Phanatic is in better shape than Quest Love.
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Probably the first baseball I've watched on TV in 2-3 years, so strange seeing men shaped like this playing sports.
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They’re shaped like you, Matt.
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Yeah that's the point dummy.
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I would throw over to first 20 times when Mr Unwritten Rule is at the plate.
Also - he looks like a bag of meat from Taco Bell.
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Yeah that's the point dummy.
I know. I wish I still looked like them. I look like Frosty The Snowman these days.
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Holy shtein Nola is dealing.
Did you post this five pitches into the game?
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I would throw over to first 20 times when Mr Unwritten Rule is at the plate.
Also - he looks like a bag of meat from Taco Bell.
Hate that dude. I booed him at every Astros game.
Odub! Cesar!!
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Holy shtein Nola is dealing.
Did you post this five pitches into the game?
I’m ahead of my time.
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People booing Harper and of course it’ll be blown up by media types
On a side note...his shirt he wore with the Phanatic and Gritty as Jules and Vincent in Pulp Fiction...I need this
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Yeah, WTF with the booing? Inbreds.
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Usually can't stand Ben Davis but he's had some good observations today. So true about Nola, what a stud. Struggled on the mound but 8 K's, got out of trouble repeatedly.
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MOTHERfargIN MAIK MAIK
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That was a Kapler sequence in reverse.
Bee-you-dee-full.
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Allow me to be the first please, WHAT THE farg IS HECTOR DOING ON THIS TEAM :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
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RHYS
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Rhysssssssss
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gotta love making them pay to choose to face Hoskins instead of Harper.
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WOW WOW WOW WOW!! farg yeah!!
I'm still bitter about last year's opening day train wreck
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Holy shtein this is amazing.
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Yo Geo! Where's your Looney Tunes gif?
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That was a Kapler sequence in reverse.
Bee-you-dee-full.
:-D
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How's that Bryce Harper look a like?
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Why does it seem that every relief pitcher this team signs sucks gigantic cock?
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Inbreds have the green light to boo Robertson.
Rhys' fault.
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Yo Geo! Where's your Looney Tunes gif?
Your wish is my command!
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10-4 and you guys are complaining!
Shut up!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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If the back end of the rotation doesn’t shtein themselves this is a deep playoff team.
I bought the Phanatic/Gritty shirt
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That’s almost as awesome as my Beto hat.
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I bought the Phanatic/Gritty shirt
http://justtwothings.tumblr.com/
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^^^Nerd pandering at its finest!^^^
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oh man the bandwagon is fillin up
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oh man the bandwagon is fillin up
white people sports is something else
the discrepancy btwn the boo's and cheers today depending on who they were for was as embarrassing a thing as ive ever seen in philly sports history....it made jimmy v. chase seem like some kumbaya shtein
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Did you boo Brycie today?
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Did you boo Brycie today?
i did not and i was in right field....but i would cheer him for actual plays...he doesnt crack my most hated ever
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Well he bowed to you so that’s good
He’s moving up on my list. Redeeming himself by embracing the city and history.
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i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches
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its better to have a good team and fake fans than what they had the past 7 years where nobody cared and they were garbage...but theres definetly some negatives with this
what im enjoying is noted bryce haters romey and j completely breezing past that and loving every second of this and everybody knew they would
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i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches
Yeah Tehran threw him one fastball and then nothing but sliders and he bit every time
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its better to have a good team and fake fans than what they had the past 7 years where nobody cared and they were garbage...but theres definetly some negatives with this
what im enjoying is noted bryce haters romey and j completely breezing past that and loving every second of this and everybody knew they would
I’m a Phillies fan. I ain’t gonna blast him just yet. Better live up to that deal bc cool t shirts and Phanatic spikes only get you so far
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i said to my girl when it happened...that was pretty cool (shes asian)...would have been cooler tho to not miss 12 pitches by 10+ inches
Yeah Tehran threw him one fastball and then nothing but sliders and he bit every time
i dont know about you but i will be dead before his contract runs out...think we can give him a pass for today?
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Of course. I’m not ripping him.
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so thru next wednesday?
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One day at a time, man. One day at a time.
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I’m a Phillies fan. I ain’t gonna blast him just yet. Better live up to that deal bc cool t shirts and Phanatic spikes only get you so far
i have no idea idea what living up to the deal means in your parlance but hes not going to win 6 mvps let alone 1...hes going to hit 240, 30ish bombs and walk a farg ton. this is what youre buying.
i do remember you saying youd never root for them if they signed him so i guess that lasted 0 games. but yes his spikes were dope.
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its gonna feel a lot worse when hes striking out after nick pivetta or zach eflin has given up 8 runs
today didnt matter
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Yesterday was fun. I haven’t had that good a time watching those fools in forever. Jay’s right about taking it one day at a time, but I’m optimistic as hell right now.
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so Jay .... 80 ?
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90-92!
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90-92!
you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.
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90-92!
can old j please come back
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90-92!
you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.
Mrs Rome bought me a green Harper shirsey for St. Paddy’s Day.
I haven’t worn it.
Yet.
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90-92!
can old j please come back
90-92 isn’t homer j?
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90-92!
you know you have to buy a harper jersey right ? that's the only way you can be let back on the band wagon.
If they win a WS I will
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90-92!
can old j please come back
90-92 isn’t homer j?
not when you quit sports
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Maik Maik loves him some hitting 8th.
I don't think they have pitching to close the deal (yet), but this should be a fun summer of watching baseball with this lineup.
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Well, if you’re going to get your first hit, that’s the way to do it.
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Well, if you’re going to get your first hit, that’s the way to do it.
That ball was absolutely crushed.
Now for the bullpen to do its job. Come on Seranthony!
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That was amazing! You could feel the electricity at CBP through the TV.
How's this bottom of the order? Maik Maik!!!
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https://twitter.com/Jules_R18/status/1112112495957889024
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Better hair, Harper, Cutch or that Asian dude in the dugout?
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Jesus, Smoltz is difficult to listen to. He and the other dude giggled like two school girls most of the game.
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Robertson’s a bum
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two appearances, two bad outings.
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Robertson, what the farg? He looks like a mess
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2-0 bitches!
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Kapler might be the only thing keeping this team from winning triple digits.
He’s still a farging ree-ree.
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Well, if you’re going to get your first hit, that’s the way to do it.
That thing was murdered.
Kapler might be the only thing keeping this team from winning triple digits.
Well, and the pitching.
Because it's 2019 and this is how baseball works now, most of the production is going to come via the long ball. HR droughts will be team slumps. Luckily half the games are in the friendly confines of CBP.
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https://twitter.com/rhyshoskins/status/1112141773629997056
https://twitter.com/JSalisburyNBCS/status/1112142234093318146
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It may be the cold, but Arrieta looks like dog shtein. Lucky he’s only given up one run.
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I don't think the Hoskins HBP was on purpose, but that's the third time (at least) pitches have been up and in on him. Showed pretty good restraint going down first base.
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And that was how Bryce Harper came to use bats with "Nick Williams" written on them for the rest of his career.
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Totally agree on Hoskins Geo.
Arrieta sure cleaned it up. He went from awful bad to filthy good.
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Jessica Mendoza would get dinner and a movie.
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This is going to be a fun season.
Need another starter and 1-2 bullpen pieces.
I’d keep plugging after Keuchel. Maybe a deal similar to Arrieta gets him.
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https://twitter.com/RoobNBCS/status/1112543357878878208
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https://twitter.com/DebWNJ/status/1112547160510345216
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all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...it’s so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)
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Daily News, too soon.
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Two lacrosse names! I love it!!!
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all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...it’s so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)
As usual I need an IGY translator...
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This gem from Todd Zolecki sums up the Phils' sordid history:
The Phillies are the only undefeated team in baseball. If they win on Tuesday against the Nationals, they will be 4-0 for the first time since 1915.
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all I want is for that stupid wave thing the two lacrosse names do...it’s so embarrassing that no one else on the team will do it (so far)
As usual I need an IGY translator...
so harper and hoskins "wave" in a child like manner to the dugout when they hit a double. usually guys will throw up some kind of sign or signal, but these 2 are doing a goofy wave thing.
its stupid. i dont really care one way or the other. im just glad they are playing with energy this year because last year, even when they were winning, shtein was dull.
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Ah. Gotcha. Donkey shine.
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If they win on Tuesday against the Nationals
Damn. Can't he just wait one more day for the stat to be true instead of jinxing it like that?
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F'in Elfin! Nice work tonight!
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Clear those bitches Segura!!!
Harper with a nice FU!
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This is really great. There has to be 10,000 Phillies fans there.
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I'm pretty sure that 75%+ of the fans left at the park are Phils fans. In the bottom of the seventh. :-D
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Oh, yeah...
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There ya' go Geo
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Wow! wasn't paying attention and looked up from my laptop and I see VV on the mound bottom ninth with 6 run lead. Thank you God!
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Props to Eflin for putting up five strong innings. Could have gone another, but the decision to go for offense was the right one.
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That was nice. Keep this shtein going
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Nats fans should really think about polite applause from here on out because pissing this guy off seems like a truly bad idea.
And I think the 10K estimate, while hyperbolic, may have been pretty close. Wow. Way to bring that shtein, Phils fans.
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btwn the home opener and last night ive been to two of the most fun sporting events in a while for me
back at it today
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Nola is getting his tits lit
Jesus Christ, man
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ol' lit tits nola
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Ha. Wtf.
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Harper’s OPS right now is 1.819.
Um... that’s sustainable, right?
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Tits sure got milked today. Home run, double, home run all that with two outs bottom first.
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Cutch!
Kingery with 5 star effort at home plate
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That slide irregardless if he's safe or not was one of the best.
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Sir shteinz A Lot back to his true form
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Nice pitching, icehole.
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Robertson’s a farging bum
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farg that ho Robertson
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Kapler is at fault there. Robertson is trash and couldn’t find the plate with a seeing eye dog. Get him out.
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WTF did we just see? Cutch gets these bums the lead. Sir shtein Hole with his usual theatrics, Hoskins with the cement glove and Robertson???
I’ve seen a lot of Phillies games in my life but that is right up there with one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen out of the bullpen.
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Hoskins with the cement glove and Robertson???
He had the infield pop-ups going all day too.
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I had the game on at work and watched the last two innings at the pub. That was awful. Like 2013-2017 awful.
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Not worried about this team but I am very concerned about Robertson. Three appearances and three dudes.
Today, 19 pitches = single, walk, walk, walk
NL East will be the MMA octagan this season.
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naturally the first game they lose is the one i drive 2.5 hours each way and through pointless dc rush hour traffic
its a bad loss but theyll have 15 more of these before the all star break. its baseball it happens. im mad cause i was there.
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These guys are fun to watch.
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get in price went down to $6 tonight and i thought about going and just standing underneath the overhang, but couldnt get back in time
good decision because this shtein is over
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Franco's run around the bases would work well with some Benny Hill music.
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Pivetta is a piece of garbage. Typical Ginny wop POS. Die.
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its shocking how bad the phillies pitching is
almost worse than rhys Hoskins is a fielder
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Pivetta is a piece of garbage. Typical Ginny wop POS. Die.
lol
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its shocking how bad the phillies pitching is
almost worse than rhys Hoskins is a fielder
Step on first. Throw. What.
He better hit 50 homers. Dumb random white doode.
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homers
bryce harper 3
mickey moniak 1
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There’s 100 college cheerleaders in my pub tonight.
The best thing I’ve seen is Odubel smashing two balls to right field.
PRIORITIES.
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I cant believe this game hasnt been delayed....its borderline criminal
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I cant believe this game hasnt been delayed....its borderline criminal
I wonder if the heavier stuff is still to come. They could be trying to make it official.
Of course, I fully agree with you. Probably should have never started.
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i dont know why the players would rather play through this than just do a DH tomorrow...certainly the team would prefer that
they could get nice crowds for both jawns
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Hoskins is the poster boy for the DH.
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NiCk PiVeTtA iS gOiNg To BrEaK oUt ThIs YeAr
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Atta baby Hoskins
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I’d throw Robertson out there in the 9th with a 6 run lead. Low pressure situation
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Damn. This lineup just grinds it out.
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https://twitter.com/JClarkNBCS/status/1114358616490954756
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Pivetta is a piece of garbage. Typical Ginny wop POS. Die.
WHOA!
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Lol! I thought you’d like that.
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phillies average seeing 173 pitches a game.....the league average is 149
this lineup is pretty pretty good
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the worst place on the internet by far is 8chan. close second is phillies twitter.
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Sir shteinz A Lot, what the farg? Nice to see his struggles have carried right over into the new season.
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Lol total CBP special on that Rhys homer
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Got to love the flowerbed!
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Oh shtein, they’re all doing the “wave” now.
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there cant be a worse broadcast in baseball than tmac/whoever/schmidt
schmidt literally never watches the phillies or baseball except for the weekend games he does. he knows zero about the team or the league or the sport. hes old and cranky. go melt in the florida sun you MAGA chud.
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you could put vin scully and harry kalas in a booth with mcarthy and it would be the worst ever group
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rocco baldelli leaves the loogy in to face rhys, then brings in a righty to face jt with odubel on deck and a base open
memories of ryne sandberg
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the phillies need a closer
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Oh shtein, VV starts tomorrow.
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neris had great stuff today but if you consider yourself a contender you have to improve the back end of the pen
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the phillies need a closer
If only there was one available...
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the phillies need a closer
If only there was one available...
he was terrible in the postseason last year...give him a billion dollars for 1 year but im wary of going long term on 30+ pitcher
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the phillies need a closer
If only there was one available...
he was terrible in the postseason last year...give him a billion dollars for 1 year but im wary of going long term on 30+ pitcher
Agreed, which is probably why he's still available. He wants the long-term.
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Eflin doing the job his first two starts. Hopefully he can keep that up.
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Mike Trout has a 25.6 BB% and 7.0 K% after 10 games this season. There is actually one other major league player who has *both* a higher BB% and a lower K% than Trout this season...
It's Maikel Franco, who is currently sporting a 26.5 BB% and a 5.9 K%.
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Best player in baseball! :D
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JFC that hanging slider was fat
Thanks, VV.
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i feel like bunk in s4 of the wire
j is my jimmy....all he gives is a taste
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That weird, low reaching swing does it again.
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you just cant have pat farging neshak close games
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No you can't. This musical closer shtein is not the answer.
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it could be an answer if you had some consistent dependable lights out arms...I don't know if you need a kimbrell...but you need more than what they got
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neshek being used tonight was gabe playing mad scientist. he cant fiddle with the lineup anymore so he has to flex his muscles somehow...enter the bullpen.
i have no idea why neris wasnt used but im sure it had something to do with the swingpath of anthony rendom matching up to neshek's slop. some guys who they might be able to get in july
-mike givens
-kenny giles
-shane greene
-alex colome
-cody allen
-will smith
-archie bradley
-wade davis
some of these teams are going to be in the playoff race, but there will be some options.
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I'd almost prefer waiting until the deadline to get someone vs spending stupid money on that Amish looking weirdo Kimbrel
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I’d overpay for Kimbrel on a 1 year deal. He seems dead set on getting a 5 year deal but at some point he’s going to have to accept it aint happening. Been encouraged by Robertson’s last 3 outings.
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Sure a one year deal would be ok. Not a long term one tho
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I’d overpay for Kimbrel on a 1 year deal. He seems dead set on getting a 5 year deal but at some point he’s going to have to accept it aint happening. Been encouraged by Robertson’s last 3 outings.
Yes on Robertson, like night and day the past three outings. Did he not pitch much in spring training? I don't recall seeing or hearing much of him.
Agree with Todd in asking why was Hector not out there? Seems to have figured his stuff out, not sold on him but he's looked more confident. Still so damn early. Encouraging thing is Adam Morgan hasn't imploded, yet.
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Todd should like Kapler not having a dedicated closer. That is the thing the moneyballers scream about - not defining roles for the BP.
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you don't need a dedicated closer but if they want to win important games in September and hopefully October they cant run these guys out there
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Kapler is Chip Kelly.
Chip Kelly is Kapler.
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mike mike with smoke
off a really good righty
great to see
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Franco’s homer was an absolute rocket.
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Seeing Franco have this success as the 8 hole hitter makes me wet.
Can I sleep at your place for the parade, Todd?
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Welp...down to two run lead. Time to sweat it out
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Nola what the farg, man.
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hes a home run giving up machine
15 home runs in his last 9 starts
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Todd should like Kapler not having a dedicated closer. That is the thing the moneyballers scream about - not defining roles for the BP.
if you had wife beater osuna like your real squad, or jansen or diaz then you have a closer
if you have neris, seranthony, robertson, morgan and neshak, you mix and match because none of those guys are good enough
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Neris for a two-inning save?
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Neris for a two-inning save?
if he gets through this part of the order quickly, yeah. seems unlikely this will happen.
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bullpen sucks but this L is on bum ass nola
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ramos is pitching the ninth
id agree the fact that this is a sweat it out is on bayou swamp trash
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being the bottom of the order makes me 2% more confident
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goodnight
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Lmaooooooo
Jesus farging Christ
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being the bottom of the order makes me 2% more confident
lol
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Repeat after me:
“Get a closer!”
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you cant fault the logic from kap...use your best rp to get the middle of the order out and your next best reliever for the bottom. ramos just left one up.
bayou boy lost this
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well they need to win the game here because its just whats left of alvarez and nicasio left
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What a god awful at bat from Segura
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be nice to have roman quinn right now
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how bad is kingery....andrew knapp from his weaker side was going to PH instead of him
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6-1...9-6
farg off
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holy shtein that ball was bashed
i cant farging believe how far that went
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Good farging God
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Nice chokejob
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They are going to score and give up so many runs this season.
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everyone is going to complain about the bullpen but never forget aaron nola blowing up
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Totally agree! Yes the bullpen tanked but Nola let these guys right back in it.
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Nola sucked.
The BP sucks
Offense died
farg this shtein.
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Pishteinta tomorrow
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Nola sucked.
The BP sucks
Offense died
farg this shtein.
7/10 j rant
feels a little forced and need to like sports again to fully get there but we are on the right track
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nah legit
watching "Ace" meltdown and then seeing the collection of stiffs get paraded out there to nibble around the zone and then get got by Soto and Robles was infuriating.
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Neris for a two-inning save?
if he gets through this part of the order quickly, yeah. seems unlikely this will happen.
We just won't discuss what happened. My blood pressure is already spiking...
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It's still early April, so I just groaned and then laughed at that bomb. Thing was halfway to Packer Ave.
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the soto HR beyond its unreal distance is completely irrelevant...as is alvarez's outing in general....he was tossed to the wolves because they had nowhere else to turn and he pitched to about 7 more batters than he should have....take him out of it and the pen was fine
again as I mentioned before they even gave up the lead the game is on the ace who gave up as many runs as the pen even if you include alvarez...on a night they had a lot of guys unavailable nola cant implode up 5 runs....he has to get to the 8th at least....he didn't
this is not to defend the pen its needs big improvements but last night wasn't them
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100% of the blame im seeing on the internets is going to kapler, alvarez and ramos. nothing to nola.
take a giant guess why and keep mind the fanbase wants scrappy hustle cant hit for shtein and behind andrew knapp on the depth chart scott kingery starting over cesar
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Thought we agreed 90% of the fan base has brain damage.
Typical. These ignorant people. Knapp, NO. Kingery, NO. Cesar will get his shtein together. Good God we all knew what this bullpen was, mediocre at best. Other than newbie Robertson, no surprises here. Nola? He was lucky to get out of the first giving up just one run. Nats were getting good swings. So far after three outings he's not looking like the "ace" of the staff. Agree with IGY, he had to get to the 8th.
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holy shtein bring up Eickhoff....I cant take this anymore
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Pisheta off to a great start. First 4 up, first 4 on base.
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Adams ball should have been gone.
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39 pitches in the first inning. :puke
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pivetta next week in colorado sounds fun
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Gtfo Pivetta
Bum ass ho
I’m watching the board at the Astros game and see a three spot already
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ceasar chasing chris davis
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in the last 7 years the nationals have drafted and produced
bryce
rendon
turner
soto
robles
stras
the phillies have hector neris
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Listening to Ben Davis helps distract my anger. "Brazil? Isn't that a soccer country?" No Ben they're known for ice hockey.
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:puke
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Oh
9-0
Nbd
Nice start but now they’ll start sucking
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12...it's 12 now, J.
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12...it's 12 now, J.
And Washington just added a safety. Nola was sacked in the dugout.
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its a good thing the season ended right before the sixers playoff run starts
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trevor rosenthal hasnt retired a batter this year....until he faced andrew knapp
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So bad tonight that the dude on the Nats with the ERA of infinity just got a Knapp looking.
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trevor rosenthal hasnt retired a batter this year....until he faced andrew knapp
Did you see his ERA dropped to 189.00!
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Altherr for set up or closer
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Well that was embarrassing
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That ball is 5 rows deep at the bank
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there cant be a more depressing sports venue than this marlins stadium
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Their uniforms are stupid too. Black tops with black numbers
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My only trip on the company dime that brings me close to a Phils game/series is in Miami in late August. Shouldn't be difficult securing prime seats.
Geo, Rome? Let's do this!
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Eflin? WTF is going on? He's getting beat like a drum
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phillies and sixers trying to decide who the bigger fraud of a team is
also what is worse
phillies rotation or sixers bench
Eflin? WTF is going on? He's getting beat like a drum
ummm he stinks?
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Guess I should have gone to last night’s game instead.
Legit 15,000 Phils fans here though
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Romey, are you sitting by the band?
These Marlins uniforms are disgusting.
Roof open males this park look so much better.
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the thing about their rotation is they dont need them to be good, just ok
this is like the 4th or 5th game where the starter has gotten shelled
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@ Don... 10 rows behind 1st base.
This stadium is amazing btw. It’s Miami 100%. Had a Cuban coffee that was outrageous. Had a Lomito for dinner at an Argentinian place in Little Havana. Truly incredible.
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this is like the 4th or 5th game where the starter has gotten shelled
because they are awful
nola should be good...the only other guy that you can hope will just be ok is arrieta
everyone else is a borderline AAA'er
its embarrassing....basically they need nola to be a cy young finalist again to not be a validly horrendous rotation and thats not happening
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calling up eickhoff isnt going to solve anything
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Eflin was utter garbage. It’s not easy to hit homers in here when the roof is open and they were all obliterated.
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calling up eickhoff isnt going to solve anything
probably not but it solves not having to watch this trash....ill take anything different
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@ Don... 10 rows behind 1st base.
This stadium is amazing btw. It’s Miami 100%. Had a Cuban coffee that was outrageous. Had a Lomito for dinner at an Argentinian place in Little Havana. Truly incredible.
Sorry you have to witness this shtein live Rome.
The Cuban Coffee sounds nice. Lomito Completo! Had one in Miami like 15 years ago after flying all night from Hawaii. Still brings tears to my eyes.
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spencer howard who says no
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2 f'ing hits tonight and one is by Kingery.
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Oh.
10-3 to Miami eh?
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I wanted to add there isn’t a single chain operator in there. It’s all local Miami people. Thought that was pretty cool.
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so cool
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Damn I turned it on right before he gave up the homer and lose the no no
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i know everyones backup catcher sucks but andrew knapp really sucks
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The juggernaut is leaking oil.
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couldnt watch past the 10th...even i have my limits
i guess they won i dont know its april
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couldnt watch past the 10th...even i have my limits
i guess they won i dont know its april
Jean Segura was inspired by Tiger Woods and golfed one out of the park in the 14th.
Then the Phils survived Alvarez.
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Yes it's the Marlins but damn the bullpen was in another solar system yesterday. Sir Anthony, Hector and Arano were throwing nasty stuff.
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Nola is a validly bad pitcher
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Why the eff are you running there
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nola all of a sudden cant throw strikes...his shtein aint good enough to overcome it
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Yuge knock by JayTee
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Nola farging sucks
Good job giving it back, bitch
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Nola was always a number 3 or 4
he’s naturally regressing to his mean
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he cant get his curve over...hes throwing 2 pitches and neither one of them are special. 3rd time through the order a 2 pitch pitcher is gonna get lit no matter who he is
degrom had 2 horrid starts in a row, too. anyway nola in colorado this weekend sounds fun
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So...what do they do about pitching?
Watch him, Pivetta and Velasquez get their tits lit? It’ll be broken up by decent starts from Arrieta and Eflin but they too are inconsistent
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MOTHERfargIN Maik Maik
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So...what do they do about pitching?
Watch him, Pivetta and Velasquez get their tits lit? It’ll be broken up by decent starts from Arrieta and Eflin but they too are inconsistent
velasquez has had 2 good starts but he is what he is...bottom of the rotation dude. pivetta might not even be good enough for that.
nola, if he cant control his off speed, will not even be in the majors. 2 pitch aaron nola throwing low 90s = what you saw tonight. if he can get his release point back on his change/curve he will be fine.
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Choke is pretty damn good
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Yeah he is
Excited to hear Jimmy in the booth too doing games
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franco destroys the ball and it happens to find mcniel's glove
baseball
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Odubel is not a smart ball player
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adam morgan has been dy-no-mite this year
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Time for Mikey to end this
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Choke is pretty damn good
Yes he is.
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Good call by Howard on Kingery not moving his ass on McCutcheon's single. Move you overpaid prick!
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Brutal swing by Segura to end that inning
Let’s goooo
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Horrible swing by Segura.
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Oh goody
Neshek in to shtein all over this game
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Oh goody
Neshek in to shtein all over this game
tell your fancy pants offense to scratch home a run
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farg
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Lol wtf was that caesar
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Great play, Hoskins.
Booooooo
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Was that throw for real? A major league 2nd baseman?
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What's worse, Hoskins half ass attempt or that throw?
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That throw but it’s damn close
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bryce popping up in the 8th was the game...loser gets paid to have in the least good at bats there
rhys sucks defensively, it is what it is with him. hes a dh.
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Maybe Brycie will redeem himself for his shtein AB earlier
Or maybe get on and Hoskins can yank one and make people forget he sucks defensively
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Nope. No interest in hitting fastballs grooved for him.
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bryce popping up in the 8th was the game...loser gets paid to have in the least good at bats there
rhys sucks defensively, it is what it is with him. hes a dh.
First pitch swing and that dude pitching was struggling.
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Hoskins fielding on his ass and swinging from his ass
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Lmaoooo Hoskins
Take a seat, meat. Awful farging AB
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16 K's for the Mess.
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lol we got some classic j rolling here
diaz is disgusting...nobody in the world is touching this
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he cant get his curve over...hes throwing 2 pitches and neither one of them are special. 3rd time through the order a 2 pitch pitcher is gonna get lit no matter who he is
Todd, hope you don't mind me copying this verbatim over to the local Philly Sports Hawaii chat room I'm in. Well said my friend.
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Nola looks like Joe Roa
Hoskins plays defense like he’s in a beer league softball game
Bryce ain’t about the cold - wanted to be anywhere but CBP
Cesar’s throw looked like a double amputee winged one
Awful loss
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These clowns over here are blaming the weather. Whatever, he's stunk his last two starts.
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Beat down
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Lol I turned it on and saw the score...didn’t even notice until just now that it’s still the bottom of the 1st.
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Beat down
Nothing is safe with pivetta on the mound
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You need 10 run cushion with Pishteinta pitching.
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60 pitches through 3 innings, go get um' Nick!
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pivetta is just horrible
horrible
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Lol the TV cameras refuse to show the fan on the field.
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if you think nola is going to get crushed in denver, wait until nick goes
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if you think nola is going to get crushed in denver, wait until nick goes
Altitude sickness.
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Jesus Pivetta, even a 10 run cushion wasn't enough to settle your ass down.
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Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff
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Kingery is bitch-slapping the Mets.
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Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff
the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east
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Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff
the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east
Worst division ever?
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Better put up 10 a night with this shteinbag pitching staff
the phillies are in 1st place in the nl east
Worst division ever?
its going to wind up having 4 of the best 11/12 best teams in baseball
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LOL at Broxton on that Knapp liner.
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they wont do it but eickhoff should absolutely start for pivetta on sunday
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pivetta - OUT
eickhoff - IN
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they wont do it but eickhoff should absolutely start for pivetta on sunday
good call!
kinda like the tv predictions
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i was wrong in thinking the worst franchise in sports history would do something sensible
tar and feather me
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Bob Nightengale
✔
@BNightengale
The New York #Mets and Philadelphia #Phillies are showing strong interest in Texas #Rangers ace Mike Minor, who is off to a dazzling start. He pitched a 3-hit CG shutout Tuesday vs. #Angels, and has a 1.27 ERA in his last three starts. He's owed $9.5 million this year and in 2020
Definite upgrade but if it goes through I’ll hold off depending on the compensation
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man how about kingery this year....normally youd say roman quinn right up and in for odubel but the way kingery is hitting how do you not at least try him out there first
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i was just thinking the same thing
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or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins
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or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins
pump your brakes.....hes had a good ten games
im talking about having him fill in for odubel while he is hurt instead of doing the completely obvious thing by calling up quinn and putting him in cf
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man how about kingery this year....normally youd say roman quinn right up and in for odubel but the way kingery is hitting how do you not at least try him out there first
kingery has to play SS for the next few days with jean out. my guess is they IL odubel. you want roman in CF in coors anyway.
or play Kingery at 3rd and Franco at 1st and trade Hoskins
lol this is just...i dont even know
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Mainly me being sick of Hoskins playing first like he’s got no hands
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i wouldnt be surpised if segura is back tomorrow....his injury looked more precautionary....odubel fully grabbed at his hammy....i could see a ten day dl for him
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Mainly me being sick of Hoskins playing first like he’s got no hands
hes one of the faces of the franchise and a really productive middle of the order bat. his defense is terrible and always going to be terrible, but they arent going to trade him because of that. not to mention, the DH is coming.
i wouldnt be surpised if segura is back tomorrow....his injury looked more precautionary....odubel fully grabbed at his hammy....i could see a ten day dl for him
he said like 3-4 days...odubel IL makes sense
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hoskins stretch there was so bad
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my goodness is morgan throwing absolute garbage.....he needs to come out....he got so lucky there
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full on implosion
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jesus christ they're gonna blow this
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Never a doubt Neris :paranoid
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wowow....phew
he threw that right down the middle as he should have and broxton whiffed on it....terrible hitting....you arent always going to get an actual hit there but a major leaguer has to put his bat on that ball at the very least
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good thing broxton stinks and couldnt recognize fastball
good call by realmuto. neris' split was a little iffy and you cant walk him there. you have to throw a strike...so call a fastball and hope for the best. it worked.
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Agreed. Had to go heat there.
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3-2 bases loaded bottom of the 9th heat?
is some kind of analytics you guys are talking?
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I don’t deal in analytics.
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I don’t deal in analytics.
thats why youre the smart one and every single person in a decision making capacity on any team is stupid
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i think i might have heard of one of the rockie pitchers going this weekend (sunday they dont have an announced starter yet)
i have heard of all four of the phillies and they all suck
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I don’t deal in analytics.
thats why youre the smart one and every single person in a decision making capacity on any team is stupid
Correct
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The Phils and Rockies are 0-0 in the 6th. ???
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Put your everyone hits gif away tonight.
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Eflin has no K's through 5? Pitching well.
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Error
Weak ass single
Home run (dude's first homer this season, old what's his name)
3-0 Rocks
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I’ve got it on my iPad and looked down just as he cranked it.
Leave it to the Phils to gag on it in an offensive park. Wake the gotdamn bats up
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They’re awake
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Why is Alvarez on this team?
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Lolol
Who is this farging guy??
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What the hell is up with the hamstring injuries? Now Kingery.
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JFC and now McCutcheon
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M*A*S*H
WTF is going on?
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Herrera
Segura
McCutcheon
Kingery
JFC
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On the bright side, at least Altherr can't strike out at second base.
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dylan cuzzo time with the mccutchen injury
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RISP 1-10 tonight
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Sigh...
Of course
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Sigh...
Of course
the phillies are on pace for 99 wins
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They are also two games out of fourth place in the division
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Realmuto has a farging gun
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They are also two games out of fourth place in the division
their division is good and its going to be close all year...buckle in big boy
we all cant have free passes like j's astros
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Astros/Phils WS??
Brycie...bro how do you miss those meatballs
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Astros/Phils WS??
i cant say for sure but i think this might top texans/eagles for you....j heaven is houston v philly final
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They are also two games out of fourth place in the division
their division is good and its going to be close all year...buckle in big boy
we all cant have free passes like j's astros
You might be confusing competitive with good
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nobodys good. everybody sucks. whats the point.
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Way to swing at shtein Hoskins
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whats worse, the three metro Hoydas in the orange hats behind home plate or Jabba Joe West?
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That dude pitching was asking to get farged up, he had nothing.
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How do you have 15 hits and only 2 runs in Denver?
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Guess I can take 17 hits and 3 runs. Bullpen has been stellar tonight.
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OH MY GOD
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Fell asleep
I see I saved myself the disgust of watching that live
But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright
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But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright
On pace to get swept this weekend
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Well don’t tell lil guy that!
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that was the kind of loss where you question your life decision to follow this worthless franchise....4.5 hours of crap to watch your worst reliever serve up a 1-2 meatball with DREW BUTERA on deck
i just fundamentally do not understand how you come into blackmon with a terrible backup catcher on deck. but thats why he is juan nicasio, marginal major league reliever, and i am jew jeworodenker, marginal human person.
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lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.
Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck
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every bullpen has a few players who suck. you cant have 7 seranthony's where you're worried about both getting them consistent, high leverage work and limiting their innings so you dont ruin their arm. you have to have a few arms that you just dont care about and by and large those guys stink. the last guy out of the rockies pen is chad bettis, who is garbage. nicasio the guy who can go a week without pitching or pitch 3 days in a row because hes juan nicasio and he doesnt matter.
drew anderson is probably better than both of these guys but drew anderson needs to pitch consistently and being the 7th guy out of the bullpen does not guarantee that. they lost this specific game because the offense could not 1) get a hit with RISP 2) hit anything other than a single.
its a terrible loss but its not really on juan nicasio or the bullpen at large.
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True. But still. I’ll deal with Nicasio if they can shteincan Alvarez
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Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck
only hope is to hang on until july or august see if you are for real and then make a couple power moves....they dont have anyone to bring up
the guys who throw junk are what they are the thing really hurting them is searanthony...i dont know if its temporary regression or this is who he is but they need first half 2018 searanthony bad
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Yup. Need him and Neris both
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they need the offense to score more than 2-3 runs at coors is what they need
the only real complaint you can levy against the pen is that they dont have a guy as good as doolitte/diaz/jansen/hader like the other contenders do. its valid. and guess what. they aint getting one.
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segura and kingery on the IL...hello 1 week of phil gosselin
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Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up
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Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up
theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name
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Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up
theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name
Missing a Brayden and Chase but for real
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But hey...on pace for 99 wins amiright
On pace to get swept this weekend
Wouldn't be surprised, no confidence in Nola.
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Walding, Austin Davis and Anderson up
theres like 27 first and last names in all this mix...throw in mitch and you could have a great game of come up with the best lacrosse name
HA :-D
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Got to love the Cutch!
Way to farg with Joe West
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Nola struggling early. At least he didn't wait until the team gave him a nice cushion.
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I just want to say it, I know its been said, many times, many ways..........Hoskins defense is atrocious. Zero effort on that slow grounder by Phillies Killer Blackmon right past him
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Nola, ugh. 33 pitches 6 hits 2 dongs
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Nola pitching like shtein, again, bullpen spent. This has another double digit slapping written all over it.
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Nola needs to unfarg himself
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There ya go! Clear that shtein
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farg, Harper slides right into the wall feet first. He looks fine running back in on third out.
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And here we go..............same old shtein
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Quinn having a hard time playing these bounces. Blackmon owns these bitches.
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farging Cesar
Moron
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the moment that happened i knew the president of phillies twitter was not going to be happy
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Who is that?
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Who is that?
Barkann?
https://twitter.com/MBarkannNBCS/status/1120066554664824832
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Who is that?
its as if you are right in the middle of matt gelbs mentions
phils need 1 run here your boy needs a wade davis save
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Getting worked this series
Sad
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if they come out of here 2-2 its a giant wash....but they blew the friday game so here we are
roman quinn has been a disaster this series. cesar too but they have no other middle infield options right now.
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if they come out of here 2-2 its a giant wash
guess what they didn’t do
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Rollins is in the booth tonight.
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Thanks McCutcheon
Piss poor AB
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Arrieta having a Nolaesque type night, battling, struggling, jams, working out of it.
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Except there where somehow Pete Alonso gets that through
Lololol on replay watching Hoskins effort is laughable
He’s a goddamn cigar store Indian defensively
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and I thought Joe West was a donkey.
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Bye bye Bryce.
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Nice to see ‘Gabe’ go apeshtein. Strike zone is a joke tonight
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amazing that its the 1st ejection since JUSTIN DE FRATUS in that 2015 game against the orioles where giles and papelbon put the bullpen phone off the hook so they wouldnt have to come in....francouer threw like 50 pitches...utley ripped sandberg
memories.
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Why does Jeff McNeil week to kill them
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j tell your precious offense to not suck
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McNeil will be the next Freddie Freeman NL East pain in the ass.
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lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.
Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck
Piece of shtein bums
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I'm cheering for the rain. Call this already.
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lolol all true. Love the JJ nickname.
Why is Nicasio still here? Alvarez too. They both farging suck
Piece of shtein bums
the phillies have scored 1 run
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Ok and that is obviously a problem.
Quite deflecting off the fact that these two farging losers suck. And the fact they keep a spot on the roster is an issue.
So farging what if the Phils had scored 4. Or 5. They’re still giving it up too. Because of two zesty losers
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the 7th and 8th members of the phillies bullpen could perform better. for the moment theyre sort of stuck with them because they dont have options and there really isnt anybody better to replace them.
it would have been fair to bring in drew anderson in this spot. but again i submit that every single team is not confident nor pleased with their performances of the bottom of their bullpens. there are only so many good relievers to go around. theyre down 3-1. top guys in the pen shant be wasted in such a spot. so it goes.
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i submit that every single team is not confident nor pleased with their performances of the bottom of their bullpens.
Yep! Par for every team in the league. Don't get me wrong J, Alvarez & Nacasio would be lucky to play in the Police Activities League but we're stuck with ding and dong. NEVER EVER did I think I'd be ok seeing Adam Morgan trot out to the mound. Hell, I'm actually high on Hector too.
Stopped drinking after my hip replacement 6 weeks ago today. May be time to start up again.
Go Phils Go!
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Is Roman Quinn 13 or 14? Looks like a kid I saw at Game Stop this weekend.
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Damn, speaking of hip replacement, watching Diaz' delivery is making me cringe. Looks like his ankle is about to snap on his delivery.
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Wish it would’ve been rained out.
Lifeless jackasses
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Whoa
Arrieta went IN
Called out Brycie and everyone else.
Either they respond or wilt like little delicate flowers. Season over before May?
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win pace update please
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the phillies suck and the season is over
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Caesar is a turd
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the moment kingery and segura get hurt is the moment cesar crumbles into a little leaguer....they literally have no one else who can play 2B. otherwise hed be benched.
scott barry missed the 2-2 pitch badly but eflin still gave up a double to the pitcher. shut up.
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Do they come back tonight?
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Is that 7 k’s In a row?
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Do they come back tonight?
franco thrown out by 20 feet. wheeler homers. not tonight, little dude.
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Turn on the 76ers. Much more fun.
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frankly this game was a success because it got mitch walding another at bat and therefore strike out and thats really all im about these days
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So they get murdered by a pitcher at the plate
Helluva response to the call out last night
Disgusting
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They are hopeless
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They are hopeless
season over?
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Rhys is a Hoyda
I’d ask who gets plunked tomorrow but we all know that ain’t how they roll
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So the retaliatory beaning was at Todd Frazier, the leadoff batter of the inning. This team is so stupid.
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bryce harper is post acl ryan howard
dont @ me
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Stop me if you heard this one before: Roman Quinn leaves the game with an injury.
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Hoskins took his sweet time trotting around the bases on that home run. The best revenge.
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Stop me if you heard this one before: Roman Quinn leaves the game with an injury.
Liar!
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Don't care the circumstance, situation, point in the season, it just feels good to beat the Mess.
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Revenge is a dish best served in 34 seconds
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next 6 are at home against miami and detroit....5-1 minimum needed
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bryce harper is post acl ryan howard
dont @ me
Nah...stand by your man
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What happened to Quinn?
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Revenge is a dish best served in 34 seconds
That was beautiful
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What happened to Quinn?
If he was a race horse, he'd be shot.
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bryce harper is post acl ryan howard
dont @ me
Nah...stand by your man
you hate bryce because he played like juco ball at 16 or something....or his hair, i dont know
i dont care about any of that. i just want him to not suck.
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Has Hoskins crossed home plate yet? I fell asleep during his trot.
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bryce harper is post acl ryan howard
dont @ me
Nah...stand by your man
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/b7884048ac0082c1727121bb4340fe88/tumblr_oodx6bCVZ41qmob6ro1_500.gif)
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the background on the beef: https://theathletic.com/944772/2019/04/25/how-baseballs-unwritten-rules-helped-awaken-a-mets-phillies-rivalry/
this is really stupid but if the phils are still gonna play then the mets can too. however, you shouldnt throw at someones head. the trot was awesome. plunk alonso in the face. ITS ON.
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So VV is now the ace of this staff.
Nola and obligatory struggles starting earlier and earlier
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1 farging hit so far
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Great job, shteinfargs
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This home stand continues at this pace, Gabe in deep shtein. Yes they have a lot of injuries but come on, Scott Kingery and ODH ain't the answer. zesty farm system and VV as your main arm is a world of hurt.
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is getting 1 run in 10 innings against the marlins off a cbp homer from your 4th string SS not good?
meats will scream about gabe or neris or pitching but they stink these days because they arent scoring any runs. the pitching was always going to be kinda meh. sunday 1 run. monday 1 run. tuesday 0 runs. thursday 1 run. garbage. yell about that you cowards.
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is it time to blow it up?
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since that all time day in washington, bryce has 2 homer and 9 rbis.
BUT PITCHING DURR
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Stop being dense
It’s both. Neither the offense nor the pitching is any good right now
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hey mike mike
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nats and braves L's
lessgo
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Hopefully that pulls Harper outta this slump
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J’s boy nico warming
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Stop being dense
It’s both. Neither the offense nor the pitching is any good right now
since the colorado series, theyve given up 36 runs and scored 25. this is less than a 4 era and would be good for top 10 in mlb. scoring not even 3 runs a game is bad. very bad. score more runs.
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J’s boy nico warming
They won bc he didn’t come in
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i was there tonight...the old vet liberty bell outside the 3b gate is dope....there are 1000 games and shtein for 10 year olds to do instead of actually watching the game.....had a great view of bryce's bomb and damn was it a shot.....my life will be a victory if i never have to see sean rodriguez play baseball again
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DUB!!
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so with seranthony broken their bullpen is down to neris, morgan and neshak
this isnt good
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Searanthony with the 18.00 era 3.00 whip hold
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Searanthony with the 18.00 era 3.00 whip hold
jake with the win
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so with seranthony broken their bullpen is down to neris, morgan and neshak
this isnt good
It's awful. Its so bad I actually am happy to see Adam Morgan out there.
And where's the speech to yourself Jake? How bout a "I should have pitched better seeing this was a JV squad we played tonight". Marlins with 17 farging hits!
5 run 5th and Bryce makes 2 outs.
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Eflin got the first complete game win for the Phils since 2016. I’m not even sure how that’s possible.
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Of course
JFC
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Helluva outing by Vinny
Even better offense
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Vin dog has certainly had worse starts but I’m not sure he’s had a more annoying one
I swear there were like 25 two strikes foul balls against him
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who is turnball and when is his induction to cooperstown
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Phillies are the same offense they have been for five years where whoever they are facing that night is a must pick-up in fantasy
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the tigers are a terrible team and theyre not even getting their best starter....at least the other teams in the nl east are mediocre too
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The defense sucks
Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like he’s got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.
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Can’t wait for Harper and Hoskins to go down meekly again here
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The defense sucks
Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like he’s got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.
you mad bro?
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Can’t wait for Harper and Hoskins to go down meekly again here
like clockwork
Harper rightfully getting his ass booed off the field
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lol do harper and hoskins have somewhere to be...just horrendous abs
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the crowd should start doing Hoskins corny ass wave at them as they walk back to the dugout
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tmac keeps harping on the cabrera play like A) the next dude didnt homer and B) the call wouldve gone their way
go away you fat jersey farg
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The defense sucks
Cesar is a farging idiot and Hoskins plays like he’s got feet for hands. Oh nice job, Brycie.
you mad bro?
Yes, actually. Lifeless effort again. This time against a team that farging sucks.
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tmac keeps harping on the cabrera play like A) the next dude didnt homer and B) the call wouldve gone their way
go away you fat jersey farg
just wait til they lose 3-2
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i have no idea why neris is in the game. you need him for this weekend...if you try to force him into a game do it tomorrow.
theyre losing this game anyway. shoulda gotten whatever alvarez gave you
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on the bright side the mets are too cheap to sign diaz to a long term deal so they are trying to protect him for his pre-arb years...i.e. not using him 3 days in a row....welp that didnt work tonight
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this game is exhibit A as to why no one watched baseball
four total runs and the Phillies were no hit for seven innings and the game was still well over three hours long
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shtein ass game
farg these clowns. Get a goddamn hit once in awhile.
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williams watches a 2-0 meatball go by him...cesar does cesar things...franco frozen by two hanging sliders
just a pathetic game all the way around. its april. whatever. go sixers.
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that was disgusting last night. Those three K's in the bottom of the ninth were pretty, pretty, pretty bad.
Takes more than wild pitches to win.
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Sorry fargs can’t score again
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here comes daniel stumpf, who pitched 7 games for the phillies in 2016 before getting popped for roids and being offered back to KC
the only game the phillies won that he pitched in featured darin ruf, tyler goedell, peter bourjos, cedric hunter, cameron rupp, jeanmar gomez AND the legendary david hernandez. think about it, it could be worse.
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Finally
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see, all the phillies need in order to score is memories of the truly god awful 2016 team
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The bats haven't been good lately. Especially the 3 and 4 hitters.
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/c388/geowhizzer/Whiff.gif)
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here comes daniel stumpf, who pitched 7 games for the phillies in 2016 before getting popped for roids and being offered back to KC
the only game the phillies won that he pitched in featured darin ruf, tyler goedell, peter bourjos, cedric hunter, cameron rupp, jeanmar gomez AND the legendary david hernandez. think about it, it could be worse.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o6ZthowWvn7WlXc5y/giphy.gif)
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Brycie hitting a robust .230
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Brycie hitting a robust .230
if theres one thing i know, its that bryce harper will be judged on his *squints to read fine print* batting average
his .848 OPS is beneath where it should be. its 68th best in MLB. .376 OBP is 42nd. hes had a terrible stretch and should be booed off the field but his overall numbers are actually above the league average.
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He’s being paid a little above the league average too.
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but his overall numbers are actually above the league average.
bwahahahaah
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Batting average is a useless stat.
OPS, though... VITAL.
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Batting average is a useless stat.
OPS, though... VITAL.
correct. welcome to 2005.
He’s being paid a little above the league average too.
this is true but bryce's pricetag is inflated because hes bryce harper. if its merely based on production he wouldnt be a $25 million player. but hes a legit celebrity and a fixture on sportscenter, etc. so thats part of what youre paying for.
my thinking is that if after 1 bad month bryce is still the 60-something best player in baseball and a 0-win player (meaning hes not a negative), thats survivable. hes going to have stretches worse than this. anybody who thought they were getting mike trout is quickly finding out that this is not that.
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Nick Williams is not a good baseball player.
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i cant remember a strike zone as bad as bill miller had tonight
they won and everything but that was just insultingly bad
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That last called third strike was in another county.
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Miller was bad on both sides. Therefore, he was fine.
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Nacasio is another pos that needs to go. Clueless farg.
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This inning, though...
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Great inning!
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Wtffff
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Great inning!
Bullpen is, well...
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Lose already
3 run cushion and BOOM!
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That's what the crowd gets for doing the stupid wave
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the phillies have had 2 different bullpen implosions against the nats and havas and i were at each of them
so if you want to know why its happening, theres your answer
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Todd I hope you kneed any A hole in the genitals next to you last night that participated in the wave.
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unfortunately the nats are not very serious injuries away from winning the division
I can’t believe they are only five out with no turner rendon zimmerman and Soto
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zimmerman
lol
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zimmerman
lol
he would probably be the second best phillie
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Havas drunk at 10am on a Monday I see
VV doing what he does...can’t put people away and gives up foul balls. And just got jacked by old decrepit Yadi Mo
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It's like VV goes out there trying to be a caricature of himself.
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farg this shteinbag motherfarger
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Taste of real baseball now for the bums. Not there yet as this 5th inning has exemplified
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farg this shteinbag motherfarger
i know vince stinks but your offense has like 2-3 no shows per week
call out your people or dont step to, junior
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farg them too
especially YOUR boy, Bryce.
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So VV shaking off Realmuto last night. Get past the fifth inning then you can start shaking people off.
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I've had enough of Velasquez and his AAAA garbage. Time for a change there.
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Why is he not the long reliever by now? They have to realize that he's a perfect 5-6-7th inning type guy by now right?
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Why is he not the long reliever by now? They have to realize that he's a perfect 5-6-7th inning type guy by now right?
Maybe when they sign Keuchel.
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Why did that replay take so long? Neither part of the play was close.
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Hey look! Bryce finally got a big hit. Been awhile.
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tmac's call on the bryce bomb was such a disgrace, he is so god damn bad
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I just saw the highlight on him on the call
So awful
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how
stella nola got her his groove back
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This >>>>>>> Train wreck in Toronto
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This >>>>>>> Train wreck in Toronto
Yeah, started back and forth. Eventually settled on watching Nola deal. Sixers don't want to play, I don't want to watch.
EDIT: Of course. I opened my big mouth.
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Nola pitching great tonight
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Dave Montgomery R.I.P.
More appropriate for this thread
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dont look now but the phils are 3 up in the division and 7 on the greatest team known to man - the washington nationals
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Dave Montgomery R.I.P.
More appropriate for this thread
Must-read from Salisbury. (https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/former-phillies-president-david-montgomery-dies-72)
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Another good article on Montgomery from Jayson Stark. (https://theathletic.com/968489/2019/05/08/stark-a-remembrance-of-phillies-chairman-david-montgomery-who-made-everyone-feel-like-family/)
It's the Athletic, but it's been unlocked.
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if you can afford it and arent paying for the athletic you are doing something wrong
its amazing
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valid take
gelb is so far away the best beat its honestly a joke....and the other ones arent that bad. this isnt a bodner situation where hes going up against garbage like pompey
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just chiming in to say how much I wanna murder Tom McCarthy
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Can't say enough about Eflin's efforts to this point of the season. The lack of strikeouts would suggest that it's not sustainable, but he's been remarkably efficient.
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Bryce Harper is a waste of life
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Can't say enough about Eflin's efforts to this point of the season. The lack of strikeouts would suggest that it's not sustainable, but he's been remarkably efficient.
Caught his start against the Marlins (Phanatics Birthday). He has a really live arm. Another gem tonight (as he gives up a double)
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yes, that was beautiful last night. Efficient is correct Geo. Nola starting to get his shtein together, Eickhoff looking steady and Arrieta stops giving up monster bombs (never mind his offense goes AWOL every time he pitches) they may have a descent staff.
Praying Harper gets to .250 by Memorial Day
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Bryce Harper is a waste of life
Don’t let lil guy hear you say that
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complain all you want about bryce but i cant think of anything more pointless
hes going to be batting 3rd and playing rf for the next 1000 years...there is nothing good or bad to say about him
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Wait a second
it’s pointless to care about your best player for the next 13 years being a pos?
I’ll remember that next time you complain about literally any sports player
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literally no other sports player has a 13 year contract
you can care, i do too, but no matter what happens - good or bad - bryce is hitting 3rd in 2019, 2022 and 2026. zero other players have this kind of job guarantee.
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So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?
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So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?
Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.
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No one complained about Ryan Howard prior to his mega deal because he was a perennial NL MVP candidate before that deal. That even happened before he struck out looking against the Giants to end 2010.
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So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?
Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.
Lol what?
he was booed his whole career for striking out too much
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So Carson wentz can be criticized now but not when he signs a long deal?
Money does factor in. Nobody complained much about Ryan Howard, once he signed his mega deal he was fair game.
Lol what?
he was booed his whole career for striking out too much
Not at the level he was once he signed his mega deal. The first few years fans loved him more than Grit
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romey level troll
kudos
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The year Howard hit 58 hrs he was the biggest star In Philly by a long shot.
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No one complained about Ryan Howard prior to his mega deal because he was a perennial NL MVP candidate before that deal. That even happened before he struck out looking against the Giants to end 2010.
Ouch, that still hurts.
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Garbage Nola is back
six of his nine starts have now been shtein
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Garbage Nola is back
six of his nine starts have now been shtein
4/9
today he has zero fastball command and its brutal to watch
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he was never going to be a top of the rotation guy but he could try not to be trash
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does espn have any good baseball broadcast teams? anything is better than tmac but good lord
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holy shtein is Harper bad
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Jesus Harper, c'mon!
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lock of the century is bryce to k after the first 2 guys get on
generally you can always bank on him for a walk but that's prime flail zone
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Hey look! Nola is pitching like shtein again!
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Nola is luckier than shtein bums only down a run. 84 pitches through three innings.
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Whoa! Bryce, are you alive?
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Nice AB, 330.
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Probably be able to get to bed early tonight
Lifeless fargs
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Can't wait for "the delayed start threw us off" excuse.
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I'll give Davis the benefit of the doubt here, probably thinking "WTF am I doing out here in top of the 4th?"
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i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly
the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate
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i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly
the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate
Kinda sorta
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Nicasio and Alvarez almost farged it up. They wanted to. Tried to.
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i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly
the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate
Kinda sorta
question is are you rooting against them more than your boy....because i hate to break the news to you but theyre decent now
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i feel like the phillies are j's therapy session and he's only able to let it out when they play poorly
the anger boils up and comes out when aaron nola cant throw a 4 seamer over the plate
Kinda sorta
question is are you rooting against them more than your boy....because i hate to break the news to you but theyre decent now
I don’t root against my teams
I am rooting against the broadcast pimping the awful forced GOT theme.
Oh look...another K by Mr. 330....
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It’s chilling how bad Bryce Harper is
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farg yes Cesar!!
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Hail Caesar! (Still a bum)
Harper with 3 k’s on the night...the chorus of boos keeps getting louder.
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i believe bryce is now tied for the mlb lead in k's
hes got a great shot at the platinum sombrero
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hhhmmm, $300MM for a defensive right fielder.
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Hey! Look at this shtein!
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the phillies are good?
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I fell asleep. Good to see they won.
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I fell asleep. Good to see they won.
grandpa
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oh farg
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GRIT!
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GRITTIER!
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I fell asleep. Good to see they won.
grandpa
Looks like an early night again tonight too
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And another one tonight
Maybe Arrieta should zip his lips until he isn’t getting bombed or walking everyone
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JFC
This is rough to watch
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j is the season over
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the phillies are good?
lolol
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j is the season over
If they don’t hit or get some decent pitching.
Nola looks like shtein. So does Arrieta. Eflin is the only guy pitching well. The BP consists of slopballing bums or inconsistent guys.
Mr 330 is flirting with the Mendoza Line. McCutcheon isn’t too far behind him. And they have some ham fisted stupid fargs on defense.
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wow they are really bad oh my god everyone sucks
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everyone doesnt sucks but they arent good
you know what is good?
powder blues
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They're not great, but they currently do have the 3rd best record in the NL (I think 8th overall, but I may have missed one in the AL in a rush). And that's with Harper and Nola stinking up the joint.
Nola needs to get better. He may not be what he looked like last year, but he needs to be better than the dreg that's been getting shelled this year.
Arrieta... meh. I'm afraid what we're seeing is what we're going to get. Utter mediocrity.
The trading deadline will ultimately decide what will happen this season. You could tell that the front office didn't trust the roster last year, because they really didn't try to get high-end talent.
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arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected
harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening
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arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected
harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening
I'd like to see Harper not swing like he's an extra in Game of Thrones. He doesn't need to do that to generate power.
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arrieta declining for four straight years at his age was expected
harpers strikeout rate now has gone up for four straight years...at 26 that should not be happening
I'd like to see Harper not swing like he's an extra in Game of Thrones. He doesn't need to do that to generate power.
This is very accurate
When Harper signed with the Phillies everyone assumed his home runs numbers would go up because he was hitting at CBP. Every HR he’s hit would have gone out at any park.
Caesar with another boneheaded fielding play
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i think the brewers are just a teeny bit better than the phils
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Stellar series
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they really shouldve been swept
not ready for the big boys yet...next 10 could get ugly and it will get real real for kap
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^^^Damn you Todd! That is so spot on^^^
If this weekend and next week doesn't go well and they play like ass again, Gabe better start looking over his shoulder.
Not his fault Bryce fanning at everything, his pitching staff is in a real bad funk and the bullpen is, well the bullpen is what it is. Go Team Go!
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Nice start, first two guys on get caught stealing.
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JESUS fargING CHRIST
they can’t even make little league defensive plays
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Add zesty defense to the list. WTF!
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Paging Chuck Knoblaugh...
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This team is doing nothing right currently...
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their defense is...wow this is next level bed
yet theyre winning. baseball.
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Mr 330 got a hit
Check his bat for cork
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cesar is destroying them at 2B but is really in a zone at the plate
this makes sense
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One run game
Any doubt they blow this?
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Jean Jean the hit machine
He’s raking
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Hallelujah.
Beautiful split to end it
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i cant believe the worst team in the history of sports won a game
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Impressive bomb by Brycie Mendoza
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That was a goddamn moonshot.
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THIS is the Nola the Phils need.
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they cant possibly ever go anywhere with these offensive inconsistencies
its either 1 run or 11
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bryce heating up just in time for joe maddon to walk him 100 times this week
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Impressive bomb by Brycie Mendoza
lol
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MAGA chud daniel murphy is super washed up
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I still label them as suspect in a postseason situation but their bullpen has been really good
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the phillies wind up 4-3 this week even though the first 4 games were just dreadful
baseball?
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Nice win.
It would be nice to carry it over into Chicago
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it would be nice?
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It would be nice if the bums could hit around Yu farging Darvish
Helluva throw by Señor Mendoza
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Hoskins is a right handed Von Hayes
JFC what a zesty AB
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JTTTTTTTTTTT
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Atta baby Cesar!!!
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odubel is a 100% timing hitter and he hasnt had his timing since last may....i believe he has options, sending him down to try to get that makes sense once roman comes back. this is brutal.
franco not so quietly has been atrocious, too, but historically hes had long stretches of all-star and sub-replacement level player play. we're getting the latter now.
lock of the century was jake being on in chicago. he wishes he was still on the cubs.
cesar is beyond locked in. cant field for shtein but hes carrying them on offense. jt's been a rock in the middle of the lineup. lot of streaky players around him but he keeps it consistent.
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WHAT THE fargING HELL WAS THAT
fargING LOUSY ASS MOTHERfargERS
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Now we can talk about what a zesty fielder ODH is. That was all-time dip shtein.
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shtein, they would have had him at third.
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Seriously.
1. Stop throwing Dominguez multiple innings
2. They struggle to make the simplest defensive plays like covering first
3. That was a catchable ball
4. Brutal loss
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first loss you can really put on gabe
just should not have sent seranthony for a 2nd inning and shouldve gotten him after the b2b walks. life isnt easy when you have 4 reliable bullpen arms and they were all used over the past 3 days. tried to steal another inning with him and got caught.
quite unlucky with the throw hitting descalso's foot, but you make your own luck late in the game with freebie's
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Lousy farging AB by that little shtein Kingery
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the phillies will always be the phillies...jean tries to get 2nd for no reason.
1) it was going to be close
2) if you make it, bryce doesnt bat
i believe thats their first 9th inning rally of the year, though.
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He was safe but stupid decision
Why even have replay if they can’t get that shtein right
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WTF! Out? He was safe. Didn't like him trying to stretch that out but he was definitely safe.
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Good call Todd, he's safe there, Papa Joe ain't pitching to Harper. Some dumb baseball tonight.
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Nice work Hector you fokah!
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the out call was a little too close to overturn. similar to the earlier segura replay....one goes for you, one goes against you. fair is fair.
they really need this game because the bullpen situation tomorrow is gonna be rough.
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Too close to overturn?! His hand was in.
When’s the last time Hoskins had a hit?
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Whatever Ben just said!
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And yes J, Hoskins MIA.
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Too close to overturn?! His hand was in.
When’s the last time Hoskins had a hit?
nah you couldnt tell...his glove mightve been on it. just not quite enough there.
rhys is a streaky mofo and hes in a bad place right now. hang tough. meanwhile go marlins.
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JTTTTTTTT
ok let’s finish this shtein off
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going on record to say i have no clue what gabe is doing here
morgan is in for the 3rd straight day, so i get 1 better, but neris had more in the tank. saving him for tomorrow? this is going to end well.
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Juan Nicasio
farging great
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I second that
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Oh farg you umpires. Paranoid mess.
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that was their best win of the year
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Hallelujah
Did not expect that
Maik Maik’s double
Cutch working a walk
Jean Jean The Hit Machine clutchness
JT Forealmuto
Yuge
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2007-2011 Jay is BACK!
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The Nats are now 9 out and sitting at 19-28
Ryan Zimmerman better hurry up and get back so he can flip that record for them!
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why is this offense so bad every 3rd game
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Quintana is a bum and they made him look great
Lets farging go
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he is not a bum by any stretch of the imagination but he should not be able to pitch 6 easy shutout innings....gotta get something
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Atta baby McClutchen!!
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i didnt understand pinch hitting herrera there...he is in a bad place and that was not the spot for him. in the end worked out though.
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likely going neshek-neris for the final 6 outs
so getting these 3 with no ser/morgan is going to be...yikes
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Of course a leadoff walk
Come on Hector...need a 4-6-3 here
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Jesus Christ
0-2 and he gives up a double
shtein
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Not scoring Kingery is huge obviously
Let’s go plz don’t blow this
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Ummm... Why is Nicasio pitching the ninth? Is everyone else dead?
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Jesus I just realized that Nicasio is in and not Neris
I’m scared
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Lmaooooo
Of course
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That ending was GoT level bad
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Tanned Nutsack can jam his bullpen by committee right up his ass
farg off Gabe
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Ummm... Why is Nicasio pitching the ninth? Is everyone else dead?
yup
they almost stole this but nicasio in a 1 run game vs. top of cubs order was way too much to ask. bad luck with the dribbler scoring bryant.
point blank offense needs to generate more than 2 runs. shtein's on them.
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Tanned Nutsack can jam his bullpen by committee right up his ass
farg off Gabe
shouldve gone to de los santos, right?
top 4 arms unavailable. what would you have liked him to do?
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Here comes the “blame the offense too”
Ya know you have to win 2-1, 3-1 games too right?
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Here comes the “blame the offense too”
Ya know you have to win 2-1, 3-1 games too right?
you know juan nicasio sucks?
if hector or neshek blow it, then yeah, different. everyone knew they needed to score with the bullpen what it was and they didnt. tell your heroes to do better. nicasio is paid to eat innings not to get high leverage outs.
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This all on Gabe
nucasio is straight garbage unless he’s in mop up time
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This all on Gabe
nucasio is straight garbage unless he’s in mop up time
its fair to criticize bullpen management over the past 4 days, but they were close games and your important arms were needed. im not sure what he shouldve done differently, but the fact of the matter is yes you need a better option than nicasio in the 9th.
the question is why wasnt neshek available and the answer is becuase hes a drama queen old man who can only be used when he feels just so.
with what he had tonight, there really wasnt much of an option other than score more runs which they did not do.
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They only have 5 blown saves all season. It feels like more and not having anyone better than Nicasio is stupid, but roster appropriations isn’t Gabe’s responsibility. I’ll rip him for a lot of things and his overall bullpen management has been idiotic, but Nicasio belongs nowhere near a first place team like the Phillies. And that’s on Klentak.
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They’re without Robertson, Hunter and Arano. Not saying the latter two are great but they’re not Nicasio level bad.
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so a professional athlete could not pitch last night because he warmed up the night before? baseball is so stupid.
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Yeah but the Phanatic is awesome.
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so a professional athlete could not pitch last night because he warmed up the night before? baseball is so stupid.
Yeah I mean it’s only 1 inning and it’s for a win so I don’t see the big deal but sabremetrics
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this has nothing to do with sabermetrics, something neither you or my cousin can even define. and again i just need to repeat even though im probably being trolled EVERY SINGLE SUCCESSFUL TEAM USES ADVANCED METRICS IN TALENT EVALUATIONS AND FOR DECISION MAKING. the dodgers, astros, the red sox, the cubs, the rays and on and on. the phillies didnt do any of this and thats why they cratered when the 07-11 players aged. they are doing it now. get angry.
also bear in mind the nicasio was probably the 10th best reliever in camp. due to injuries he easily made the team. he is a long man/eatings eater. he is sufficient in this role. asking him to deliver 3 outs amid 0 runs vs. that portion of the cubs lineup is not ideal.
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Neshek is soft as Charmin.
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One reliever could have sucked it up for an inning. It was a one run game against the heart of their lineup not a 4 run lead. Nerd
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One reliever could have sucked it up for an inning. It was a one run game against the heart of their lineup not a 4 run lead. Nerd
i agree...neris couldve have just started warming up on his own...but relievers have been getting days off since before any team built a super computer. this is more about the bullpen depth issues and lack of consistent offense.
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Exactly! There is no bullpen depth. The second we all realized it was Nicasio on the mound in the bottom of the 9th it was over. He looked like a frightened turtle pitching to Bryant. Walk, double, fly out, int. walk, Fielders choice which lead to that pathetic lob home, single, lights out. I wanted to get mad but like I said we all knew this was not going to end well once he walked Bryant.
And this offense can't have 5< hits 3-4 games in a row, have the one offensive explosion and repeat the cycle and think it's all good. Not with this current bullpen. Can only improve when Robertson and Arano return. Right?
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When are Robertson and the humans jugs machine Hunter coming back?
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Welp.
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https://twitter.com/matt_breen/status/1131366051587993601
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Post June 1st they can sign a free agent and not have it farg up their draft picks. I’m not a Kimbrell guy but I’d overpay for his services on a 1 year deal
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kike-ol is more likely to sign a 1 year. kimbrel is at least getting 2.
moving pivetta and velasquez to the pen could help a lot. you get robertson back, its not bad. what's hurting them is having 4 reliable arms and then slop. youre gonna get caught more often than the mean with that.
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Jesus farging Christ
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j are you ok? deep breaths bud
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Good thing they rested their relievers
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Good thing they rested their relievers
for real...you had to know AAA cole irvin was going to be lit up. take the L tomorrow and get the W when you had it.
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j are you ok? deep breaths bud
I am now, thanks. Not earlier when homeboy yaks up an 84mph center cut batting practice “heater” down the pipe
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We can shtein on the offense tonight. The rookie got lit up by the usual suspects in Wrigley, that part I get BUT how do the first 5 batters get 11 hits and only get 3 across the plate?
Chicago Sun Times:
"Who needs Bryce Harper? Cubs slug past Phillies 8-4"
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7-0 laugher with their “ace” cruising has melted to an 8-6 nail biter.
Kneeshake is pure garbage.
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That felt like the longest game in mlb history
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Didn’t get to see it but just looked at the boxscore
Helluva job Neshek. Bum
At least they hit today
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Today’s game took 3:55 to play. The 23-22 game took 4:03.
MLB has a lot of problems but slow play is ruining the game. That and atrocious farging bullpen management
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neshek had a drama queen act all week, finally gets in....and then that. yeesh. this game was just silly. putting a ton of thought into a weird afternoon getaway game defeats the purpose of the meandering nature of regular season baseball. they came away 2-2 in a 4-gamer against a WS contender. this is good.
hot take but i dont think game length has any correlation to interest level. its action length. people dont think baseball is boring because it takes long. people think its boring because 15 minutes go by in between things happening. thats the issue. im not sure what the fix is other than a strict pitch clock or creating a cap on foul balls.
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It's the time between pitches and the pitching changes. Throw in a clock and a 2-batter or 3-batter minimum and be done with it. Probably would have already been done but the MLBPA has a say and from their perspective I can see the gripes.
The stuff that has been done to date (auto-intentional walks being the most obvious example) is so minor that it was worthless.
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I can’t remember the last time I sat down and watched an entire game from start to finish without the Phillies being involved. It’s boring, dude. Too many strikeouts and too many pitching changes make it almost unbearable, especially on television.
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lets remember that complaining about the state of baseball is as much of a national pastime as the game itself. its a billion dollar industry with increasing national and local tv deals and multiple players that just signed for hundreds of millions of dollars to worthless places like denver, suburban la, even suburbaner la and south philly.
the game will be fine. this is not a crisis. billionaire trump supporting owners are still going to make tons of money while dirt poor dominicans and uber wealthy whites climb over each other to play.
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im in chicago milwaukee for the weeks games
my arms look like those big turkey legs they sell at state fairs and renaissance festivals from being in the sun for 3:55 other than that it didnt seem long to me...a big difference is when a day game goes four hrs its still light out when its over...when a night game goes four hours you might not be getting to bed until midnight
salvaging a split in chicago on paper isnt bad but it felt worse....the difference in the series not being better was cubs big guns baez/rizzo hit homers and harper/hoskins hit singles
hoskins is absolutely horrific right now...since hitting a homer on may 7 he has seven hits none for xtra bases and 15 strikeouts
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vince velasquez: relief pitcher
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Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm
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^^^ :yay :yay :yay^^^
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Damn, it's been a long time since I had good things to say about the bullpen.
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Nice win last night. Glad I stayed up and watched it. Hoskins’ homer was a rocket.
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phillies fans when they win a meaningless may game
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/grreat.gif)
philles fans when they lose a meaningless may game
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Accurate
Btw they promoted Rick Vaughn today aka JD Hammer
Nice glasses, fargo.
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It would be nice if the Phils could get a hit with the bases loaded.
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even geo the morman does it, sheesh
the phillies have scored 9 runs this series and they are all in different innings
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https://twitter.com/matt_breen/status/1132430033644138496
Um, Jake, keep this going a bit before you start smelling yourselves...
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Exactly, calm down Jake. Come see us after the series in Chavez Ravine next week.
Today was fun. That bottom of the 8th strike zone was just horrendous and the angry beard got lucky as heck BUT nice top 9th of saying shove it Braun and Counsell.
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Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm
lesssgo!
cept when they lose tomorrow (btw it’s dollar dog day at brewers park) they will be 4-3 this set....nothing to be ashamed of but I’m better than that or maybe I’m not
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Havas needs to stay on road trips with them. Good luck charm
lesssgo!
cept when they lose tomorrow (btw it’s dollar dog day at brewers park) they will be 4-3 this set....nothing to be ashamed of but I’m better than that or maybe I’m not
Over/Under for Havas dollar dogs is five. What's the play?
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At a time?
Over.
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1baeeed14435267e8751e015d2a549bb/tumblr_oab6z0SzzO1sy3tjvo1_500.gif)
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Hope Igy's enjoying the dollar dogs, because it looks like the game will suck.
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At a time?
Over.
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Lolol
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People got jokes
get some pitchers
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Apparently Elfin had tummy troubles. Hanging around Embiid and Simmons?
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if youre gonna lose, lose like this so i can stop paying attention and then head out and enjoy a nice day
hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.
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hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.
your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever
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hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.
your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever
(https://media.giphy.com/media/kgKrO1A3JbWTK/giphy.gif)
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Stop! Homer Time!!
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hammer's stuff looked like it can play. maybe there's something here.
your phillie homerism could be the homerist homerism ever
let me know when the nats get zimmermann back, im sure thats whatll get them going
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Sucked that they didn’t have a game today
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Odubel arrested for domestic violence against his 20yr old girlfriend at Golden Nugget in AC
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Bye Dumbell.
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the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism
if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them
with that said go away odubel
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Odubel arrested for domestic violence against his 20yr old girlfriend at Golden Nugget in AC
At least he’s starting to hit again
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the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism
if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them
with that said go away odubel
Realmuto is one of the best catchers in the game
Odubel Herrera is a fringe starter and they already have his replacement in Kingery
I’m not saying cut Herrera but your comparison sucks
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the universal reaction from people is to cut his ass which would make me pleased if it wasnt based in performance/racism
if realmuto beat his wife there would a demand for "facts" and war stories of northeast philly's finest talking about how their girl lied to the police about them
with that said go away odubel
Realmuto is one of the best catchers in the game
Odubel Herrera is a fringe starter and they already have his replacement in Kingery
I’m not saying cut Herrera but your comparison sucks
To be fair, he did say performance as part of his comparison.
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I’m sure there’s Phils fans who dislike Herrera because of his skin pigment. Who gives a shtein about those idiots?
Herrera sucks regardless of his skin color.
If it’s proven he’s a gutless coward who beats women, he should be cut immediately. Zero tolerance for that shtein.
But everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Let due process play itself out.
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Officially on administrative leave. (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/sports/odubel-herrera-arrest-phillies.html)
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If it’s proven he’s a gutless coward who beats women, he should be cut immediately. Zero tolerance for that shtein.
would you be saying this if he was hitting .320 instead of .220? this is my point
the combo of his color + play is why theres a universal reaction of GTFO. i know that sentiment wouldnt be there if this was realmuto.
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You know me well enough not to even ask that question. I have no patience for bullies, especially the sort that abuse women. I’d cut anyone guilty of smacking a woman around. Period.
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Can someone bully that bum Pivetta into not giving up bombs?
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You know me well enough not to even ask that question. I have no patience for bullies, especially the sort that abuse women. I’d cut anyone guilty of smacking a woman around. Period.
you know i love you but florida state, broseph. florida state.
another thing i wonder is does the retroactive punishment now hit myers? dude whaled on his woman in public and hes a go-to quote for beat reporters and always welcome back to cbp.
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But everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Let due process play itself out.
Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms
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Hoo boy was hector nasty tonight
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Neris split was filthy
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they have a pretty good regular season bullpen. need 1 shutdown arm for the fall (kimbrel?). but damn neris if he can do this consistently
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But everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Let due process play itself out.
Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms
she fell, shes clumsy
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Was Kimbrel shutdown last season? I thought (maybe faulty memory) that he got shaky at the end of last season.
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they have a pretty good regular season bullpen. need 1 shutdown arm for the fall (kimbrel?). but damn neris if he can do this consistently
He’s already proven he can’t
I don’t think even the biggest HN fan is confident he can have an inning like that in October.
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it would hurt my fantasy team but will smith is having a great season and is a FA after this year. unless the nats want to give away doolittle with 1 year left im not sure anybody better is going to be available than neris.
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Hoo boy was hector nasty tonight
Kolton Wong probably still in the lobby bar shaking his head thinking "WTF was that?" Three pitches and he looked silly as did Carpenter.
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But everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Let due process play itself out.
Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms
So now you’re against due process and the rule of law?
The Phillies have done exactly the right thing here and they should be lauded for it.
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But everyone is innocent till proven guilty. Let due process play itself out.
Yes...let the process play out to see if the girl put the bruises and fingerprints on her own neck and arms
So now you’re against due process and the rule of law?
The Phillies have done exactly the right thing here and they should be lauded for it.
Remember when Reuben Foster was accused of domestic violence and he was guilty by court of public opinion and called a piece of shtein? That’s what they want. Women hit men too (they usually are the ones to initiate contact)...so I wouldn’t rule out she started wailing on him first and he put an end to it. Ray Rice...Kareem Hunt...the women were swinging on them too. You want equal rights expect equal lefts.
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