What could possibly go wrong?
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Julio Jones eats Eric Rowe's soul?
if at any time eric rowe is on Julio jones then the devil should eat billy davis' soul
The Falcons released their starting center (Joe Hawley) and picked up Gino Gradkowski off waivers from Denver, they traded for Levitre who didn't play in the preseason for them, and Matthews missed most of the offseason after Lisfranc surgery. I would put the O/U on sacks at 3.5, but watch Ryan go the whole game without being touched
I don't think this game is going to be close. The Eagles' offense might put up 40 on Atlanta.
Atlanta is going to be better this year. I am thinking around 9 wins. They'll be able to throw on the Eagles if their line holds up. I expect a W but on the road against a non-terrible team on MNF who has the potential to exploit your team's weakness is not a cakewalk.
i can see atlanta just working the farg out of the middle and flats against whoever the god awful nickel is plus barwin and graham
i actually think they lose the opener and beat dallas
Won't your boy Matty Ice need time to throw to work anything?
this is going to be a bloodbath
dallas, i dont know
eagles 38
falcons 26
Eagles - 37
Falcons - 24
Eagles 31
Dirty Birds 27
Falcons keep it close ala Skins a few years ago on opening Monday Night. Mild heart failure.
chip - 56
rest of the nfl - 0
some betting nuggets for this weeks game .....
The current over/under in the Atlanta-Philadelphia game has fluctuated between 55.5 and 56 for most of the week. Since 1990, there have been only two Monday Night Football games with an over/under higher than 56, with the most recent coming in 2009 (Patriots vs. Saints)
Matt Ryan started his career 19-9 at home against the spread in the first four seasons of his career. Since then, Ryan is just 11-12 at home against the spread, and is a home underdog of 3 points in this one.
The Eagles are playing their 24th game in the past two seasons with an over/under of 50 or more.
Sam Bradford is playing just his third career game as a road favorite in 26 road starts. The first two times for Bradford were in his rookie year with the Rams (2010).
opener/season predictions
i think the road factor in this game is huge....eagles have a new qb playing for the first time in almost two seasons in a new system with new wr's...and in that dome will struggle out of the gate...no one mentions it because chip is the coach and that is all they need to hear plus there are legitimate big questions regarding the secondary...but both of these things overshadow my biggest concern with this team - the wr's
rave all you want about jordan matthews but hes still just a slot guy who had a real good rookie year as an afterthought to defenses....now hes the "number 1" guy with nelson agholar josh huff and kkk behind him?....that unit frightens me to death...admittedly this is much more of a big picture problem than it is tonight and btwn the backs and te's they can can make up some for the wr against most opponents...remember no ertz tonight tho (my assumption hes listed as questionable and game time deciscion)...so im not suggesting they are going to struggle to score...i have faith that chips system can put pts on the board against the likes of atlanta...as for being good enough to make the playoffs or win in the playoffs we will see
as for tonight i think the eagles start slow then get it together and score some pts just not enough to beat ryan who is infintely better at home than on the road...my prediction will be wrong if the falcons oline is as putrid as everyone says and the eagles are in the backfield all night
what ill be watching for tonight: 1. total number of yards receiving by wr's not named jordan matthews 2. the interior of the eagles offensive line 4. my breakout performer of the year trey burtons number of snaps/targets 3. sam bradfords knees
season record 9-7
tonight 31-27 falcons
I just can't shake the bad feeling I have about this game. I should be excited, but I am almost dreading it.
The Eagles could go 12-4 if everything goes right. They could just as easily go 6-10 if Bradford's knee explodes and the secondary suffers anything more than a hangnail. And things just don't go right for the Philadelphia Eagles very often. My guess is that they fall in the 8-9 win range. Or they cruise through the season, sweep Dallas out in the NFC Championship game and Bradford's knee explodes kneeling on the last play of that game, causing the Eagles to have to play Mark farging Sanchez in the Super Bowl.
I want to be excited about this season, but I can't shake the feeling that it's a house of cards.
Tonight is a statement game for me. Not necessarily for the team, but for me. The Eagles should beat the Falcons. I just don't know that they will.
Falcons 33
Eagles 24
Eagles 42
FaLLLLLLLLLLcons 24
Settle down, girls. There will be plenty of time to bash the Eagles' chances. Not tonight, though.
If only for this week and if only because I stand to win some money, I am ALL IN on the Eagles tonight. farg the haters.
Least surprising news ever that igy picked them to go 9-7 and lose tonight.
Water is wet.
The season's here, and I'm so angry that Cooper is still on the roster. I'm just going to assume they'll lose every week. Bradford's bound to get hurt at some point, and after that who farging cares. They're going nowhere with these DBs, but they'll get there so much quicker if and when Bradford's done.
Eagles 23
Falcons 27
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Least surprising news ever that igy picked them to go 9-7 and lose tonight.
Water is wet.
god forbid the mighty eagles who win superbowls in their sleep might finish slightly above .500
saw a lot of eagles gear walking around town today. i love not working. anyway football and stuff.
31-24 eagles
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Least surprising news ever that igy picked them to go 9-7 and lose tonight.
Water is wet.
But if he bets against them and they lose he still wins and if they win he still wins!
It's flawless!
i think they lose too....omg negativity
but i still think they go 11-5
What specifically makes you think they're going to lose? Seriously, I'm asking.
I'm concerned about the secondary and to a lesser extent the offensive line keeping Bradford vertical, but other than that, this has blowout written all over it. The Falcons defense is a farging dumpster fire and the Eagles special teams are better even though Atlanta has a very good unit as well.
I'm not homering out here. Just not seeing a loss tonight.
Quote from: SunMo on September 14, 2015, 01:35:24 PM
i think they lose too....omg negativity
but i still think they go 11-5
if everything goes right especially in the health dept they could win 11-12....if the cast of the walking wounded start falling....garnder and barbre get owned worse than expected...jason peters gets old....the secondary is not more than marginally improved (dont forget billy davis is a horrid DC one of the reasons i think they lose tonight) the wr's struggle and cant stretch the field at all then they can win 5-6....i split the middle...schedule is very favorable as well....i think even when bradford most likely goes down they could win 6-7 games with sanchez simply because of the sked
but all these superbowl predictions that are flying around everywhere just because during the preseason no one was trying while chip always goes 1000 mph are absurd
it's not one specific thing but a confluence of smaller things such as:
opening night in another team's home stadium
monday night away game
new secondary players that need to time to play together and get on the same page
ditto offensive line
no real plan (that we've seen) for 3 CB situations
new energy for the falcons with a new head coach
julio jones and matt ryan
i wouldn't be at all surprised if the eagles came out and carried it over from the Packers game, but if i try to look at this objectively I see a bunch of factors that can go against them.
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 01:46:01 PM
What specifically makes you think they're going to lose? Seriously, I'm asking.
I'm concerned about the secondary and to a lesser extent the offensive line keeping Bradford vertical, but other than that, this has blowout written all over it. The Falcons defense is a farging dumpster fire and the Eagles special teams are better even though Atlanta has a very good unit as well.
I'm not homering out here. Just not seeing a loss tonight.
matt ryan is very hard to beat in that dome....this is the eagles qb first game in almost two years in a new offense throwing to a bunch of people he doesnt know who are either kids or bums in a very loud dome....kyle shanahan >>>>>> billy davis....dan quinn knows chips offense and chip has not been great going up against people the second time in the league...falcon run defense was actually solid last year
Fair enough. All sound points. I just see the Eagles being ready to rip someone's head off tonight especially after the offseason they've had.
that's the weird thing, i see that too... i think they either win by 20 or they lose at the very end. that's a coin flip to me but for the reasons i listed i think it's the bad way
the offseason is precisely part of the reason i think they dont hit on all cylinders this early....football isnt a sport where you can usually clean house and be a cohesive unit right off the bat...on top of that as mentioned their new qb hasnt played in two years
if they come out and smoke atlanta in this spot then i still think superbowl talk is way premature but i would understand some honest to good hyperbole when it comes to the season and holy shtein will the dallas game be off the hook
I have the eagles winning tonight but I wouldn't be surprised if they lose. too many variables.
to be honest, sight unseen they should beat dallas by double digits based on no dez, no hardy, no gregory,
if the pass rush isn't there, i wouldn't be shocked to see atl blow the eagles out tonight. ryan to julio at home is no joke.
i think the pass rush both ways is the key...if im the falcons i blitz the living shtein out of bradford until he proves hes ready to stand in there and sling...i cant imagien he isnt tentative in this scenario tonight even without getting blitz...if they let him get comfortable and in a rhythm early then it doesnt bode well for them....eagle pass rush goes without saying....they must have one
im looking forward to brandon graham with this new deal under his belt...they gave him much more money than his resume called for...are they right that hes ready to become a force?....he also predicted that he would get 32 sacks this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 02:31:36 PM
i think the pass rush both ways is the key...if im the falcons i blitz the living shtein out of bradford until he proves hes ready to stand in there and sling
So you're saying I should've started Sproles on my many, many fantasy teams?
if you still have room on your roster for him after picking up raheem mostert
Did you guys watch ATL in the pre-season at all?
Like I was just telling my boy here...PS results don't mean shtein. But when you watch the execution...of vanilla gameplans at that...and it flat out stinks then you can get a pretty good handle on how prepared a squad is. The Falcons OL is on par with a college team. That is why I wasn't shocked to see Indy, Baltimore, Seattle and Dallas struggles yesterday because they all looked shoddy in their pre-season work.
I'm not impressed with Atlanta.
Eagles win easily is my projection. Front seven and ST shine.
I'll be at my local pub, and I'll regret it tomorrow.
My head says eagles are about 7 points better than Atlanta but I have a weird feeling about this game.
31-27 eagles
lot of eagles peeps in the house in the dirty dirty
dome gonna be rockin though....what an advantage for the worst sports city in america
Marcus Smith
Dennis Kelly
Josh Andrews
Brandon Bair
Stephen Morris
Kenjon Barner
Denzel Rice
Those are the inactives. Taylor Hart gets some run for the first time in his career.
Oh and yeah...ATL is loaded with Eagle fans. Total HFA for Matty Ice!
i think you are homer trolling so i wont list the dozens of teams who had as many or more fans than the eagles will have there tonight and lost to matt ryan in the dome...and i wont laugh at the child like thinking that because another team has a few thousand fans there that it somehow eliminates the home field advantage.....maybe pittsburgh at Jacksonville and a handful of other stadiums is the only team you could say that about in the history of the league and not sound foolish
i also wont go thru matt ryans home road splits
does this mean the falcons are def going to win....of course not....the eagles are favored for a reason....but romey asked for reasons why the falcons can win and matt ryan at home is a huge one...certainly a better reason than thinking the eagles are going to win because they are the bestest and they have fans there
I was in Miami in 2003 with 25,000-30,000 other Eagles fans. No one can tell me we didn't make a difference that night.
The entire upper bowl of that shteinhole was midnight green. No exaggeration.
Thought they'd use Barner to return kicks and let Sproles return punts. ALL IS LOST.
Eagles 33
Atlanta 26
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I was in Miami in 2003 with 25,000-30,000 other Eagles fans. No one can tell me we didn't make a difference that night.
The entire upper bowl of that shteinhole was midnight green. No exaggeration.
it made no difference ive been at numerous wash games with the same thing....eagles have won some and lost some....the eagles went almost two years without winning at the linc....theres a reason fans are called that because they are fanatics and live in a dream world where fat drunk people cheering for athletes makes a tangible difference....id say 90% of the time it doesn't and that might be low
Yeah, you're right. It made no difference at all. None. IGY knows everything and is never wrong about anything ever.
Close forum.
Quote from: hunt on September 14, 2015, 02:23:38 PM
if the pass rush isn't there, i wouldn't be shocked to see atl blow the eagles out tonight. ryan to julio at home is no joke.
This and what IGY said about both pass rushes. Falcons WILL blitz the living daylights out of Ol' Lightbulb knees. Atlanta's O Line is a joke and these clowns had better take advantage of it.
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
Yeah, you're right. It made no difference at all. None. IGY knows everything and is never wrong about anything ever.
Close forum.
finally someone said what he wanted all along
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
Yeah, you're right. It made no difference at all. None. IGY knows everything and is never wrong about anything ever.
Close forum.
i know less than 5 times ever has a visiting fan base made a difference in an nfl game and the eagles were never one of them....its farging awesome for us when the fans travel.....it sticks it to the home fans....it makes a difference at the bars before and after the game and on the ramps coming in and out....eagle cheers on the road are fun as shtein dewd....but it is not remotely making a difference on the field
I was pumped about this game until I turned on The Fanatic. All these kooks calling in and Trot and the Cuz communicating in caveman to each other made me sick.
McLane just posted a pic of ertz trying to give it a go in warm ups....maybe he will run after all
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I was in Miami in 2003 with 25,000-30,000 other Eagles fans. No one can tell me we didn't make a difference that night.
The entire upper bowl of that shteinhole was midnight green. No exaggeration.
I was in Miami a few years ago, when Vick was starting for the Eagles. I can't say it was 50/50 in Miami, but it had to be pretty close to 60/40. My entire section was Eagles fans.
Including this lady...
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Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I was in Miami in 2003 with 25,000-30,000 other Eagles fans. No one can tell me we didn't make a difference that night.
The entire upper bowl of that shteinhole was midnight green. No exaggeration.
I was in Miami a few years ago, when Vick was starting for the Eagles. I can't say it was 50/50 in Miami, but it had to be pretty close to 60/40. My entire section was Eagles fans.
Including this lady...
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Zsa Zsa Gabor is a birds fan? Cool!
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 06:10:21 PM
McLane just posted a pic of ertz trying to give it a go in warm ups....maybe he will run after all
In Tom Selleck we trust.
Huff & KKK starting, my ears started bleeding when it was just confirmed.
Mike Freeman said more Eagles fans inside the dome right now and when the Falcons came out for warmups they got booed lol
I forgot just how brutal the pregame show is.
Christ already... light this farging candle.
LETS fargING GO!!!
Anyone have a mobile friendly link to watch this?
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 06:51:18 PM
I forgot just how brutal the pregame show is.
Christ already... light this farging candle.
i forgot over the offseason just how much keyshawn hates chip
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2015, 06:51:45 PM
Anyone have a mobile friendly link to watch this?
watch espn app
Maybe I'll just leave the game muted and listen to some music.
key the only one of the six to pick atl
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2015, 06:51:45 PM
Anyone have a mobile friendly link to watch this?
Is it available on the ESPN app since it's on ESPN?
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 06:51:18 PM
I forgot just how brutal the pregame show is.
Christ already... light this farging candle.
OMG! Ditka
What in God's name is that thing being built next to the Georgia Dome?
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:00:30 PM
What in God's name is that thing being built next to the Georgia Dome?
1.2 billion buck new stadium...
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:00:30 PM
What in God's name is that thing being built next to the Georgia Dome?
A wall to keep out Mexicans, most likely.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2015, 07:02:35 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:00:30 PM
What in God's name is that thing being built next to the Georgia Dome?
A wall to keep out Mexicans, most likely.
LMFAO! You dick!
forget how many eagle fans there are there are no fans period....stadium so empty right now
I need Sproles to have, like, 7 touchdowns tonight to beat Rusty in the keeper league.
So go Sproles, I guess. A lot.
little dunky to get Bradford into the game
expected start
Chip's unimpressed with Murray's YPC, already looking to ship him off to a frozen hellhole.
Ertz you bafoon!
Seriously, how much does Bradford weigh? I fear for that guys life.
That looks about right so far.
expected start
I don't see any problems with the secondary.
What a secondary!
holy shtein Malcolm....wowow
malcolm jenkins
schooled by white
trucked by some dude
dropped int
Jenkins decleeted, crisco hands, great start.
could have been much worse the way the drive started....fletcher ftw
At least it was three, not seven. Now it's time to wake the hell up.
Nice Roberto Duran impersonation there from Jenkins.
Am I the only one feeling three and out again?
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:20:14 PM
Am I the only one feeling three and out again?
I'm thinking pick.
this Bradford footage is encouraging.
DeMarco meet the interior of the eagles line
you aint in dallas anymore dorthory
Let's just get the pick six out of the way now and end any hope of a win.
How could there be holding on that play? No one even blocked anyone.
Get Shaddy!
seems like a superbowl team with a genius offensive coach to me
wow Bradford took a hit there
I think they may need a GPS.
eagles suck guys
Let's see your adjustments now you farging football genius.
as ive said many times...i don't think...wait i know people don't realize how bad the interior of the eagles line is
Andrew gardner and allen barbre are their farging guards
Who's Kiko Alonso?
Oh, right. I forgot that bad DBs hold a lot.
welcome to number one island maxie pad
kyle shannahan as expected is taking a massive poop on billy davis
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:29:42 PM
kyle shannahan as expected is taking a massive poop on billy davis
Somewhere, Juan Castillo is seething.
what a farging play kiko
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Who's Kiko Alonso?
He's a farging hero, for the moment.
chip > you
WHITE POWER!
You suck a little less than the rest, Alonso.
Just a little, though. And for now.
Even Shady wouldn't have been able to make that catch.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
WHITE POWER!
Shorebird please log out of Don Ho's account.
that could literally be a game changer....cause in theory the eagles should get a lot better as the game moves on and Bradford gets acclimated....falcons were always gonna come out the better team but the later stages of the game is where eagles have their shot....so right now 3 is so much bigger than 10
I think we just found our slot corner.
Well one things for sure, Byron Maxwell and this secondary are god awful.
Okay, that was a nice pass that definitely should have been picked off.
farging Huff
Bradford just isnt ready yet....both with the tempo of a real game and with his wr's
josh huff doing something stupid
the sun sets
Just get this Bradford kid some real receivers, a couple of linemen, an indestructible skeleton, I think he could really be something.
Need 10 throw it 6 into coverage
seyi looked out on his feet there....could be out with a concussion
Bradford needs to calm his nerves. Austin was wide open down the seam there. Just breathe, little buddy. Breeeeeeeathe...
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:36:12 PM
Bradford just isnt ready yet....both with the tempo of a real game and with his wr's
Correct and all the talikng heads who fell for the whole performance against a Packers practice squad can eat dick.
Would it be fair to say KKKooper won the race war versus McCoy?
Atlanta might as well take runs out of the game plan for the rest of the game.
force a punt here with no yardage gained and watch out for sporles
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
farging Huff
Congratulations! First one of the year. Only 10,000 more to follow.
The defense at least showed something there.
need points here...ball at midfield
mariota would get points here
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
The defense at least showed something there.
Front 7 looks good and should be ok. Nice stop there but still don't trust this secondary.
I would give the ball to Sproles 100 times from here out.
Jordan Matthews doesn't have trufant on him last year
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 07:43:42 PM
need points here...ball at midfield
mariota would get points here
MM would have thrown 4 TD's by now.
Hmmm... I didn't think he got it.
Sproles is literally going to carry this team to 8-8.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 07:45:53 PM
Sproles is literally going to carry this team to 8-8.
That just because his back will explode after going 8-0.
I cant believe chip went into an nfl season with those two guards
this is pathetic
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:47:06 PM
I cant believe chip went into an nfl season with those two guards
If only there were some veteran lineman out there they could have paid a little money.
Good no call? farg you Gruden
Facemask?
Nah...
Barbre and Gardner need to be left in Atlanta
They're awful
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Good no call? farg you Gruden
This whole muted game and music thing is working out pretty well for me so far.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:45:10 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 07:43:42 PM
need points here...ball at midfield
mariota would get points here
MM would have thrown 4 TD's by now.
On three passes. Science.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
Good no call? farg you Gruden
This whole muted game and music thing is working out pretty well for me so far.
Haha so true.
Carroll III is right. III is the number of touchdowns he'll get burned for tonight.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Barbre and Gardner need to be left in Atlanta
They're awful
those are your superbowl guards
oh and Jordan matthews is your superbowl #1 wr.....JOSH fargING HUFF IS THEIR SECOND BEST WR
but they are winning the superbowl
School work time.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:51:18 PM
oh and Jordan matthews is your superbowl #1 wr.....JOSH fargING HUFF IS THEIR SECOND BEST WR
well we know Miles Austin won't be seeing the field dmuch after the sure touchdown gaf.
I guess brandon graham is saving his two sacks tonight for the second half
I wonder if they'll work out a plan to cover this Jones guy.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 07:55:18 PM
I wonder if they'll work out a plan to cover this Jones guy.
They have a plan, unfortunately it's during the 2016 draft and "our" new coach will be addressing that.
Oh my God! I've never seen a cornerback jog in coverage. Maybe I can play in the NFL. Nice work Maxwell.
That's the first time I've seen an empty backfield inside the 5 and thought, "yeah, that's the right call here."
Absolutely pathetic effort. I'm out.
maxwell is an awesome 3rd corner playing btwn earl thomas and richard sherman
Billy Davis is asleep at the wheel...again
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Barbre and Gardner need to be left in Atlanta
They're awful
those are your superbowl guards
oh and Jordan matthews is your superbowl #1 wr.....JOSH fargING HUFF IS THEIR SECOND BEST WR
but they are winning the superbowl
End of the world after one half.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
Billy Davis is asleep at the wheel...again
that's your superbowl winning defensive coordinator
You know what's really great? Not listening to these fantasy football commercials. They're not making me want to kill myself at all.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 07:51:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 07:48:37 PM
Barbre and Gardner need to be left in Atlanta
They're awful
those are your superbowl guards
oh and Jordan matthews is your superbowl #1 wr.....JOSH fargING HUFF IS THEIR SECOND BEST WR
but they are winning the superbowl
End of the world after one half.
I don think that's the case but a superbowl is beyond laughable and I think DeMarco murray might be asking himself "what the farg did I do?"
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 08:02:57 PM
You know what's really great? Not listening to these fantasy football commercials. They're not making me want to kill myself at all.
a nj senator is trying to make them illegal....it will never happen but I would be so happy
IGY already off the charts awesome.
Somebody woke the receivers up. Let's see where this goes.
Stop blowing the Falcons D Gruden. they suck and the birds O sucks more.
its absolutely amazing that a td here makes it a 3 pt game....why that kiko pick was so big
OH MY GOD! This is a farging circus
Jesus Ryan matthews.
4th and 1 at the 34? go for it.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:05:46 PM
its absolutely amazing that a td here makes it a 3 pt game....why that kiko pick was so big
You're asking an awful lot, you know.
It ertz so good.
So who was that Not Sproles back they had out there, and why isn't he Sproles?
Ertz, break out the sun dial to time that run.
rusty kuntz at qb for the eagles
What's a pun? I can't keep up with all these stupid rule changes.
Drops and wide open receivers missed, these dumb fargs should be up by a touchdown.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
What's a pun? I can't keep up with all these stupid rule changes.
It's a pooch punt. Get with it will ya!
Bradford just isn't there yet....even the completion to Matthews on 3rd down was a terrible throw...he leads him he might get the corner....question is how long does the rust last....quarters or games?
DMac School of Accuracy in your face, bitches
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:11:23 PM
Bradford just isn't there yet....even the completion to Matthews on 3rd down was a terrible throw...he leads him he might get the corner....question is how long does the rust last....quarters or games?
They're trying to knock the rust off him, but they have to knock gently.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:11:23 PM
Bradford just isn't there yet....even the completion to Matthews on 3rd down was a terrible throw...he leads him he might get the corner....question is how long does the rust last....quarters or games?
He looks awful. Totally out of sync.
They could swap quarterbacks at halftime and it wouldn't change this game at all.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
They could swap quarterbacks at halftime and it wouldn't change this game at all.
I disagree with that....sanchez could not possibly be worse and im sure would be significantly better....btw before homers flip I am in no way suggesting they do it....its Bradford or bust....but for this game sanchez has them in the end zone at least once
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
They could swap quarterbacks at halftime and it wouldn't change this game at all.
I don't think teams are allowed to trade QBs mid-game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
They could swap quarterbacks at halftime and it wouldn't change this game at all.
I disagree with that....sanchez could not possibly be worse and im sure would be significantly better....btw before homers flip I am in no way suggesting they do it....its Bradford or bust....but for this game sanchez has them in the end zone at least once
I meant Bradford for Ryan, but even with Sanchez I disagree. He'd have them down by 17 right now.
eagles would win the second half 24-0 if they made that swap....you are talking about a very very good qb versus someone that really shouldn't even be playing yet
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:20:25 PM
eagles would win the second half 24-0 if they made that swap....you are talking about a very very good qb versus someone that really shouldn't even be playing yet
Someone very good who's having trouble hitting his own receivers, who would then be throwing to receivers that don't want to catch.
Anytime they want to get pressure on Ryan...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 08:21:32 PM
Anytime they want to get pressure on Ryan...
Too risky, gotta keep an eye out for that running game.
They're leaving the underneath and flats wide open.
Jesus Christ almighty
Julio Jones is going to set the single game record for repections at this rate.
Other than Alonso not one player has played well
Expected the defense to be average at best but this is pathetic.
Wow. 3rd down stop.
yeah lets try to have Bradford go 50 yards in 50 seconds....that should end well
just go to halftime genius
Nice stop.
About farging time!
Clearly the Falcons forgot about that great playcall they had when they were at the 5.
13-3. should be 28-3.
I can't wait to see knock knees run the two minute.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
yeah lets try to have Bradford go 50 yards in 50 seconds....that should end well
just go to halftime genius
They've got time to punt again, calm down.
Foles >>>>>>this POS
As long as they don't turn the ball over in their own territory...
All part of Chip's plan.
I love this stupid game.
See what happens when a DL pressures a QB?!
Oh of course.
Penalty on a fumble recovery
Bullshtein call
unfargingbelievable.
Kiko give and Kiko take away. farging a.
ass whoopin
Lol @ this defense.
Cox and the dline come up with a huge play, have it negated, and next play score.
Super.
maxie pad
that's all on chip and thinking hes a genius
Good news though, there's still plenty of time for Bradford to not score again.
Have they doubled Julio at all tonight?
Are you kidding me? farg the holding call and way to quit Maxwell.
45 seconds left so there's still plenty of time for the Falcons to score again.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
Have they doubled Julio at all tonight?
Yeah, on the running plays.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
Have they doubled Julio at all tonight?
C'mon, Dez Bryant was a long time ago.
they should farging be in the locker room right now
I forgot for a second their kicker puts the kickoff through the back of the endzone and was expecting an onsides kick for the hell of it.
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
Have they doubled Julio at all tonight?
No
Why?
Billy Davis
can they play the 2nd string packers in the 2nd half
Byron "Bradley Fletcher" Maxwell
These sideline shots pretty much sum it up. This team has no fight, no faith, no heart. Game over.
Luckily for me, I couldn't find an online stream of the game. Listening to it is bad enough.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING CHIP!!!!
Bradford's going to die on the altar of Chip's big balls.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2015, 08:37:00 PM
Luckily for me, I couldn't find an online stream of the game. Listening to it is bad enough.
Ice pick to the ears is less painful than to the eyes.
Bradford might not make it through the first game.
I seriously hope Bradford gets hurt and is out for the year
Team MVP for the second straight year, Darren Sproles.
I miss Tebow.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 14, 2015, 08:37:52 PM
Bradford Chip might not make it through the first game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:38:04 PM
I seriously hope Bradford gets hurt and is out for the year
I hope the sun rises tomorrow.
The farging OGs suck. Back to back penalties.
Non stop pressure
Stupid idiots.
good half, everyone
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that was one of the most embarrassing sequences I have ever seen for an nfl head coach
Does Chip not know that taking a knee is a thing they can do?
17-0 last year to JAX
Down 17 this year
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
garnder and barbre get owned worse than expected - CHECK...jason peters gets old - CHECK....the secondary is not more than marginally improved - CHECK (dont forget billy davis is a horrid DC one of the reasons i think they lose tonight - CHECK) the wr's struggle and cant stretch the field at all - CHECK
but all these superbowl predictions that are flying around everywhere just because during the preseason no one was trying while chip always goes 1000 mph are absurd - CHECK
matt ryan is very hard to beat in that dome - CHECK....this is the eagles qb first game in almost two years in a new offense throwing to a bunch of people he doesnt know who are either kids or bums in a very loud dome - CHECK....kyle shanahan >>>>>> billy davis - CHECK....dan quinn knows chips offense and chip has not been great going up against people the second time in the league - CHECK...falcon run defense was actually solid last year - CHECK
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
that was one of the most embarrassing sequences I have ever seen for an nfl head coach
Horrible first half period. WTF with this staff? They don't get it.
Gruden had one accurate comment. "DON'T BELIEVE THE PRE SEASON!" I kind of miss Vanilla Reid.
im a fat alcoholic slob and I said this when Atlanta still had the ball and chip was trying to call timeouts with like 1.50 left....how can the coaching genius not have seen how bad of an idea it was
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
yeah lets try to have Bradford go 50 yards in 50 seconds....that should end well
just go to halftime genius
Hey, let's all switch over to the Bums/Nats. I'll take Rupp, ,Bogusevic, Sweeny, Nola, De Fratus, #94 over these gutless, talentless pieces of shtein.
well theres always the phillies game
I approve of Atlanta's decision to try to run out the clock. Let's get this shtein show over with.
Did you guys see that interception?!
Get your hopes up again, they're gonna be dashed real quick.
end zone please
Does anyone want this? farg already
BOOM!
Tebow time! Oh farg!
Onside kick
all part of chip the genuis' plan to go down 17 points in openers
Nice get farg out of here block by Lane Johnson.
Nice start.
The blocking was great on that run. Nice play
why is Maragos in in a non blowout situation....did I miss something
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
why is Maragos in in a non blowout situation....did I miss something
they trust him more than ej and rowe which speaks volumes
Dirty birds with the offensive PI again
GOD DAMN IT!
Atlanta doing just enough dumb stuff to leave a door unlocked if bradford can get untracked
Gotta come up with that pick there.
This may be a controversial opinion, but I'm gonna throw it out there. Matt Ryan may not be a great quarterback.
I knew defense is what would carry the Eagles to the Super Bowl this year
fletcher is such a beast
holy crap what a kick
Jenkins is the most non catching mofo I've ever see
Stonehands motherfarger
Quote from: Munson on September 14, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
Dirty birds with the offensive PI again
They've been getting away with shtein all night.
Dropped pick costs them about 50 yards in field position :boom
Fletcher Cox is a monster, BTW. Dude's getting penetration on every play.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 09:06:17 PM
This may be a controversial opinion, but I'm gonna throw it out there. Matt Ryan may not be a great quarterback.
What is wrong with you? Have you seen his playoff record? Geez.
So next year they need three linemen, four DBs, probably another WR. I hope Chip starts stocking up on low round draft picks soon.
how is that not helmet to helmet jesus christ
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
how is that not helmet to helmet jesus christ
I thought the same things...
How many times is Bradford going to trip over Murray trying to hand off to him?
Quote from: Munson on September 14, 2015, 09:07:04 PM
Dropped pick costs them about 50 yards in field position :boom
But they sure can make the difficult INT's, it's those gifts that are tough.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
how is that not helmet to helmet jesus christ
I thought the same things...
it doesn't get more blatant than that and it was vicious too....I guarantee he gets fined
RIP in peace, Matthews. Died from balling too hard.
man he came down hard as shtein on his shoulder
As bad as it's been I'm loving Matthews toughness.
Pick? Good job rookie.
More like Nelson Alg-holder.
Ugh these goddamn penalties
lol what was he doing
real good job that time by peters
Didn't hand the ball back to the ref, he'll be cut tomorrow.
hes startin to feel it a little now
Penalties on penalties on penalties.
Bradford in a rhythm. Yeah, those little 4 yard dinks will kill ya everytime.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
hes startin to feel it a little now
If they could just stop shooting themselves in the foot...
Jesus farging christ! 4 goddamn penalties on the drive! WHAT THE farg
These officials are farging horrendous.
Sproles is still awesome. Who knew?
Chip's on the sidelines lookin' like my grandma trying to figure out what she wants off the dollar menu.
Good luck Tobin
what a block by kelce
Kelce took out two guys
Sproles is good. NO GM should be fired for trading him for a 5th....who I believe they cut this year.
I was gonna be so mad if a Sproles play got called back on a penalty.
There's 1.
farg yeah...nice move by Murray
Good job other RB.
All 5 Falcons fans in attendance are getting nervous.
that was such a weird throwing angle by Bradford....he like heaved it
Ok Retardo Davis - keep the pressure on Ryan
I wonder if Matthews tried the shuldner and cant go cause I believe the three wide there was ertz huff and kkk
Can they get Bradford some colored contact lenses or something so he stops looking like he's seen an eldritch horror? Just a lighter brown is all I'm asking for.
That was one of the weirdest drives I've ever seen. The only thing that could defend the Eagles was their own stupidity.
chip's pretty cool aint he
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
That was one of the weirdest drives I've ever seen. The only thing that could defend the Eagles was their own stupidity.
11 plays, 145 yards, 1:30 off the clock.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
That was one of the weirdest drives I've ever seen. The only thing that could defend the Eagles was their own stupidity.
11 plays, 145 yards, 1:30 off the clock.
:-D :-D :-D
thanks guys for maybe not ruinning the dallas game for me
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 09:22:54 PM
chip's pretty cool aint he
Never lost faith.
I just have to apologize to the family for kicking the puppy in the balls at halfime.
Now let's see if the Falcons remember that Julio Jones guy.
that was an obvious hold but lol at Jenkins just falling backwards to the ground
shtein, unexcusable
kiko dropped way to deep...he was next to the safety
Momentum killer
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:28:57 PM
kiko dropped way to deep...he was next to the safety
He's got interceptions on his mind.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 09:26:09 PM
Now let's see if the Falcons remember that Julio Jones guy.
Christ, I want him double teamed when he's on the bench.
Not being aware of that draw is a killer
You knew with what was happening Atlanta wasn't throwing (other than maybe a screen) on their on 7 on 3rd and 15 in that spot. How you don't protect against the draw is dumbfounding.
It was bad enough when the players all had two first names, but now half the coaches are the same way. Bring back last names, Goodell!
maxie pad has 8 tackles already....one guess as to why
Maxwell is not so good.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:34:52 PM
maxie pad has 8 tackles already....one guess as to why
I got this one. Because he's on the defense.
this game is so obvious....eagles come out rusty....give up the lead....don't quite have enough to come back
awful throw by ryan
Daring Matty to throw? Sure Gruden, I'm sure Matty Ice is crapping his pants.
Barwin is the best DB on the team, even beating out Kiko Palazzo.
byamdi asomwell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yUbC7Vc4d8
chip getting pissy with the camera all up in his BI
Lineman on Sproules? WTF?
theres Matthews and wow there is ertz
I can't wait for the day Chip just pulls out a gun and shoots somebody live on television, then goes back to calling plays like it was nothing.
Wear um' down genius.
my meatcicle is hard
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 09:41:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yUbC7Vc4d8
You are a lousy person.
I'm guessing the stadium got a little loud for that play, or the camera guy had a stroke.
that was a classic chip Kelly offensive drive
lol at Barbre - good play, meat
Ok boys...defense lets farging goooooooo
McCoy wouldn't have made that TD, but on the other hand Sproles would have without the lineman pushing him because he's awesome.
That Matthews catch was a TD, but whatever. Touchdown Allan Barbre
Now is it too much to ask the defense to make a farging stop?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 14, 2015, 09:49:23 PM
Now is it too much to ask the defense to make a farging stop?
They've had like two already, don't be greedy.
maxie pad with his 9th tackle
Toast Maxwell. Jesus
Hahaha Maxwell Jesus
Matt Ryan's had enough of this shtein.
god is kendricks good
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 09:51:13 PM
Hahaha Maxwell Jesus
Guess when you play back there with Shermen, Chancellor, etc. anyone looks good.
Maybe they should have tried that deep throw to Jones a second time.
maybe they should stop blitzing and leaving maxwell, or anyone, 1-1 vs. julio
maybe
It's like Maxwell is a step or two behind on every pass. Almost as if he's expecting help.
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 09:55:36 PM
maybe they should stop blitzing and leaving maxwell, or anyone, 1-1 vs. julio
maybe
Billy
Davis
WTF was that the Niners are wearing?
Uh oh, they figured out that Matthews needs to be covered going across the middle.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 09:57:34 PM
WTF was that the Niners are wearing?
Just wait until you see Miami's black alternate jerseys.
Was that Carmichael Jr.'s first NFL reception?
#43 is Cyborg.
God damn, Sproles is too good for this shtein team.
when Bradford is in rhythm like this its so impressive but I wish they had a field stretcher....clearly chip doesn't think its necessary but it would put this offense next level
Jesus another flag on another big play. Is that 4 tonight?
Kelce ain't his brother.
Are judo throws not legal anymore? This pansy league, I swear.
They should take a shot with Agholor deep.
Also lol Kecle jesus....you can't tackle defenders.
stop "coooopin" klansmen
I'm real glad they paid Murray all that money to watch as Sproles and Other take all the farging carries.
"Falcons got the Eagles where they want them. Eagles got the Falcons on their heels" Make up your mind.
where is big balls?
ugh. Gut punch.
fire chip....horrendous
fg team late on the field....parkey already iffy....defense cant stop them...4th and inches....awful.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:02:42 PM
where is big balls?
At least Andy would have called a timeout before they missed that kick.
Tiny nuts Chip
You farging go for it
And farg the goddamn penalties
4th and 1 against a sieve and you choose a 44 yard field goal. Even if you make it Atlanta probably scores with that much time left. farging moron.
Didn't like the inside run with Matthews there. Go for the sweep. ATL was expecting the inside run.
Should have gone for it on 4th.
That holding call killed them. Probably cost them the game.
We'll see kickers brought in this week. Serioulsy, anyone surprised he missed?
Not like birds D would have stopped them. Bryant is good from 55+ tonight.
Time for Cox to get up in somebody's ass and save this game.
Just a disgusting call to not go for it
terrible night for the genius
HUGE!! farg yeah!
If this punt lands anywhere near the field somebody's getting fired.
What a stop.
Malcolm Jenkins, I think I love you... in a purely platonic way, of course... :paranoid
2nd life for chip and parkey
love this spot. it was the anti donovan spot. lets see what sammys got.
That was a great tackle by Atlanta ST and you could hear a pin drop in there.
Deer in the headlights.
screen here
Yeah, that's about right.
Say what you will, but that was a nice catch
deserved loss
Oh my farging GOD! You got to be kidding me.
Lovely.
Completely deserved to lose.
Nice little battle back but overall terrible night
Quote from: Tomahawk on September 14, 2015, 10:11:42 PM
Say what you will, but that was a nice catch
yeah but not by jordan matthews
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
The season's here, and I'm so angry that Cooper is still on the roster. I'm just going to assume they'll lose every week. Bradford's bound to get hurt at some point, and after that who farging cares. They're going nowhere with these DBs, but they'll get there so much quicker if and when Bradford's done.
Eagles 23
Falcons 27
On the plus side, Bradford didn't die yet.
Obviously a thousand other things contributed to that loss....but god watching that ball bounce off of matthews hands is infuriating.
Hats off to Bradford. Guy was steller after that horrible start. Chip, Maxwell, Parkey can go farg themselves.
Suck it up Matthews. You farging choked. You choked on MNF. Good night.
Quote from: Rome on September 14, 2015, 01:46:01 PM
What specifically makes you think they're going to lose? Seriously, I'm asking.
, this has blowout written all over it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Least surprising news ever that igy picked them to go 9-7 and lose tonight.
Water is wet.
McNabb to Vick to Foles to Sanchez to Bradford... Asking an Eagles QB to run a farging successful 2 minute drill is like asking for complete world peace.
all in all a team loss....but the thing everyone is going to focus on is the 4th and 1 decision, and rightfully so. everything about it was terrible.
chip has proven over his time to be a bitch by the book coach
You know Chip really wanted to go for it on that fourth down, too. That's why it took so long to get Parkey out there.
Listen to the balls, Chip.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
Suck it up Matthews.
seriously why are you literally crying in week one
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 10:16:01 PM
all in all a team loss....but the thing everyone is going to focus on is the 4th and 1 decision, and rightfully so. everything about it was terrible.
chip has proven over his time to be a bitch by the book coach
chip has proven to not be a very good game day coach period
it wouldn't have even been not going by the book to go for it...it was the right move
You have to go for it because even if you make it Atlanta has 2:30 left to kick a fg to win.
Going for it was only chance to win. Eagles make the fg and Atlanta gets in fg range and wins no doubt.
Lol at Matthews throwing the towel at the camera - you're right to be pissed for dropping an easily catchable ball.
Sloppy execution
Piss poor OG play early on
Penalties
Chip being scared to not go for it and then rushing Parkey out there
Sucks
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 14, 2015, 10:19:12 PM
You have to go for it because even if you make it Atlanta has 2:30 left to kick a fg to win.
Going for it was only chance to win. Eagles make the fg and Atlanta gets in fg range and wins no doubt.
Yeah thank god Parkey missed.
Last thing I wanted to see was this game ending on a Bryant 62 yarder.
well on the bright side dez bryant is hurt, so ...
Penalties. Ugh.
Quote from: GeneralZOD on September 14, 2015, 10:15:26 PM
McNabb to Vick to Foles to Sanchez to Bradford... Asking an Eagles QB to run a farging successful 2 minute drill is like asking for complete world peace.
the irony of the two minute offense in chips world is that it actually slows the game down as far as substitutions go and how chip wants to gain an advantage in how fast and chaotic he likes things to be....theres down and distance to worry about....the clock...spiking the ball to stop the clock...what play to run depending on the yardage needed...so what happens then is talent...you need you guys to win one on one battles and use their talent to get open and make plays rather than scheme and pace....and this eagle team isn't exactly over loaded with talent at the receiver position
btw im so glad they stocked up on running backs this offseason
They're not as bad as I thought they'd be. Teams are going to bomb the shtein out of these DBs and the offensive line is going to get Bradford killed, but if he lives long enough to get on the same page as these receivers there's some good Madden-styled bullshtein 100+ point games to look forward to.
And Sproles. They're so farging lucky to have Sproles. Sproles.
Sproles.
Very disappointed with Maxwell. Ok, I get it Jones is a top 5 NFL WR but he couldn't keep up with a crippled Roddy White.
Not surprised Falcons would score, we all thought 24+ was a guarantee but did not expect this offense to be so bad in the first half. Did not see being down 20-3 at the half.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
Suck it up Matthews.
seriously why are you literally crying in week one
His little throwing the towel at the camera was so bush league. Catch the ball next time.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
did not expect this offense to be so bad in the first half.
why?.....that was the lock of the night....the only question was when would it click and would it be too late....really without the amazing kiko play this isn't a game at all
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:18:21 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
Suck it up Matthews.
seriously why are you literally crying in week one
His little throwing the towel at the camera was so bush league. Catch the ball next time.
don't look like you need your binky on national tv and maybe the camera wont be all up in your grill
I figured they'd score early and then trail off once they were slipping all over Bradford's blood.
Balless is at the podium.
Horrible typical modern NFL type game. Too much passing too little running the ball too much refs. Bottom line is Eagles were outplayed but still that entire game was so unenteraining
So did Murray die and you guys just didn't mention it at all, or what?
Quote from: SD on September 14, 2015, 10:32:25 PM
Horrible typical modern NFL type game. Too much passing too little running the ball too much refs. Bottom line is Eagles were outplayed but still that entire game was so unenteraining
pretty much....league is garbage right now
Worst aspects of the game to me weren't the mistakes (which are short term problems) but rather Byron Maxwell looking like a #3 corner when he's paid to be a #1 corner, and Jason Peters looking human for large swaths of the game until the rookies who were beating him got gassed in the second half.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
Quote from: SD on September 14, 2015, 10:32:25 PM
Horrible typical modern NFL type game. Too much passing too little running the ball too much refs. Bottom line is Eagles were outplayed but still that entire game was so unenteraining
pretty much....league is garbage right now
atlanta ran fine
Quote from: SD on September 14, 2015, 10:32:25 PM
Horrible typical modern NFL type game. Too much passing too little running the ball too much refs. Bottom line is Eagles were outplayed but still that entire game was so unenteraining
Know what'll make ya feel better? Burning that stars and bars right now
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
did not expect this offense to be so bad in the first half.
why?.....that was the lock of the night....the only question was when would it click and would it be too late....really without the amazing kiko play this isn't a game at all
Wasn't confident they'd win but confident they'd at least get the ball in the endzone in the first half.
Dan Quinn looks like a bad ass. I like this dude.
Btw like I said before sound the alarm on Parkey. Fickle kickers. One good year and then it's gone.
Like Blair Walsh and his case of the yips...got caked and is missing like crazy
Let's not forget the 2 gift INT's Matty Ice handed the Birds that were dropped.
It's horrible, bring running the ball and D back.
Falcons did an incredible job of taking the Eagles out of their game plan. Want to establish the run? Sorry, Bradford needs to throw on short passing patterns and don't worry we got that covered because you don't have a deep threat. farging amateur hour play calling. Chip was outcoached and it was ugly.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2015, 10:34:34 PM
Worst aspects of the game to me weren't the mistakes (which are short term problems) but rather Byron Maxwell looking like a #3 corner when he's paid to be a #1 corner, and Jason Peters looking human for large swaths of the game until the rookies who were beating him got gassed in the second half.
Excellent observation. Beasley wore his ass down.
Quote from: SD on September 14, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
It's horrible, bring running the ball and D back.
Falcons did an incredible job of taking the Eagles out of their game plan. Want to establish the run? Sorry, Bradford needs to throw on short passing patterns and don't worry we got that covered because you don't have a deep threat. farging amateur hour play calling. Chip was outcoached and it was ugly.
chip doesn't coach during games only during practice....on sundays he runs his system hell or high water with no deviation....end of the first half was the ultimate example
Going back to the Andy days, so much about the run game depends on the first two offensive drives. No successful runs on those, and rushing the ball is essentially abandoned (especially if it means the Eagles are now behind).
If Murray breaks one in that first drive the whole mixture of plays in the game is different.
Chip traded away a back because he danced around looking for holes and only ran for 1300 yards last year, and now has an offensive line where dancing around looking for holes is the only way anyone's going to get yards.
3rd and 1 and I knew we were farged.
farg...at least I'v set my expectation to lose every game so that I'm pleasantly surprised if they win.
My blood rate jumped up a few points above normal when they lost it the only way they know how.
I'm good! farg this team. Losers.
dont forget about the 3rd and 15 draw for a first down...microcosm of billy davis being a fleshpophead
on the missed fg parkey kicked it with 7 on the play clock. it reminded me of billy cundiff's missed kick in the afccg a few years back. though he at least had the excuse of taking too long to take off his sweatpants.
I'm actually pretty confident line play will improve as the unit works together more. But the second someone along the line gets injured, watch out. The Sanchize will be throwing the ball soon thereafter.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2015, 10:43:09 PM
Chip traded away a back because he danced around looking for holes and only ran for 1300 yards last year, and now has an offensive line where dancing around looking for holes is the only way anyone's going to get yards.
not just the line but the part of the line he got murray for....up the middle....shady was money on the stretch plays....it was the counter hands and the shotgun draw type runs where he needed to put a foot in the ground and fire thru the hole....Andrew gardner and alan barber are not going to make many holes
They're gonna make holes in Bradford. Because he's fragile, you see.
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2015, 10:46:25 PM
I'm actually pretty confident line play will improve as the unit works together more. But the second someone along the line gets injured, watch out. The Sanchize will be throwing the ball soon thereafter.
cohesion only goes so far....at the end of the day they have two guards who are terrible no matter how much in sync they get...plus its not like either of them never played....gardner got benched last year for being awful filling in for mathis....they are what they are....two journeymen
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
that was all kiko....watch a replay if you can....he drops back so deep its ridiculous
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
that was all kiko....watch a replay if you can....he drops back so deep its ridiculous
True he did drop and then allow himself to get blocked enough. Still hate Billy Avis...I'm taking the D outta that iceholes name
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
that was all kiko....watch a replay if you can....he drops back so deep its ridiculous
i saw that...but even so 3rd and 15 and you get an rb 1-1 on the open field. not ideal.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
that was all kiko....watch a replay if you can....he drops back so deep its ridiculous
True he did drop and then allow himself to get blocked enough. Still hate Billy Avis...I'm taking the D outta that iceholes name
no doubt billy dee is brutal....but on that play gotta call it like it was
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2015, 10:46:25 PM
I'm actually pretty confident line play will improve as the unit works together more. But the second someone along the line gets injured, watch out. The Sanchize will be throwing the ball soon thereafter.
cohesion only goes so far....at the end of the day they have two guards who are terrible no matter how much in sync they get...plus its not like either of them never played....gardner got benched last year for being awful filling in for mathis....they are what they are....two journeymen
And if I'm not mistaken, non of us had a problem if he went OL with the first two picks as the draft was so WR/DB deep.
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2015, 10:51:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 10:48:15 PM
Yeah that draw was a kick in the sack.
Billy Davis is the worst.
that was all kiko....watch a replay if you can....he drops back so deep its ridiculous
i saw that...but even so 3rd and 15 and you get an rb 1-1 on the open field. not ideal.
that happens on every draw....but normally you have different levels of protection...so kiko has a chance at the back five yards deep and even if he cant make the tackle one on one...he gets in front of the back while the rest of the defense moves towards the ball....or you take an angle that forces the back to the sideline or into other players...but kiko dropped to basically the first down marker so there was no first layer of protection underneath
Quote from: Don Ho on September 14, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 14, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2015, 10:46:25 PM
I'm actually pretty confident line play will improve as the unit works together more. But the second someone along the line gets injured, watch out. The Sanchize will be throwing the ball soon thereafter.
cohesion only goes so far....at the end of the day they have two guards who are terrible no matter how much in sync they get...plus its not like either of them never played....gardner got benched last year for being awful filling in for mathis....they are what they are....two journeymen
And if I'm not mistaken, non of us had a problem if he went OL with the first two picks as the draft was so WR/DB deep.
hes taken one offensive lineman in three years.....lane johnson
Parkey is kind of a turd for missing that FG, but a very poor offensive performance in the 1st half and a terrible defensive performance for roughly 3/4 of the game is what did them in. They weren't ready for prime time. Not the end of the world though. I think this offense is going to be nice as hell. No reason at all to think the secondary has been improved much at all after that performance. Theyll only be as good as the pass rush. If they get no pressure, I just don't see them stopping anyone in the air.
Murray 8 carries 9 yards
Mathews 3 carries 4 yards
Anyone hear Maxwell's response to Jones big game tonight? Guy giggled like a little school girl when told Jones ate them up for 141 yards and 2 TD. This organization needs to stop signing high priced free agent defensive backs, track record sucks.
yikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmOzpN4pBss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmOzpN4pBss)
not many corners can cover julio...he's a beast out thurr.
and on the 4th & 1.....fg was def the right call. you expect an nfl kicker to make a 44 yd fg & you take the lead there. sure, parkey has been shaky as hell since late last season, but if you don't think he can make a 44 yarder, he shouldn't be on the team.
all around crappy performance though.
That's missing the point. The 44 yard fg wasn't to win the game. Atlanta gets the ball down 1 with tons of time. That's still likely a L. If there was 3 seconds left I'd agree but there wasn't.
nah...you take the lead there & d it up.
but parkey was on the team last night....and he was hurt all preseason and when he did kick he sucked
and lol @ d it up...their secondary sucks and got torched and their supposed great d line got worked as well.....who is going to d up exactly...plus matt bryant is not cody parkey...legendz is right...atlanta wins with a fg there
go for the win for god sakes...problem was 3rd down...big balls got little balls when they couldnt convert there
disappointing but not surprising result last night. atlanta might not have the horses on D yet but they played max effort last night. they obviously focused on taking away the run game early but chip has to be able to adjust quicker than halftime. Bradford played well outside of the interception. the secondary is bad bad bad
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 14, 2015, 03:44:11 PM
PS results don't mean shtein. But when you watch the execution...of vanilla gameplans at that...and it flat out stinks then you can get a pretty good handle on how prepared a squad is.
completely out coached....horrific out of the gate for an entire half...mad amounts of penalties...
eagles stellar preseason totally prepared them
Quote from: SunMo on September 15, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
they obviously focused on taking away the run game early
how do we know this tho?
i think chip ran it three times in the 1q and five for the half?
its like demarco had that big negative run and he went andy reid
they loaded the box almost the whole time
yep...they keyed on the run. anyone with eyes could see that.
Yeah they had a safety in the box and were focused on the run. Gruden mentioned it as did a couple of writers. Plus you could see that they were playing single high safety.
As for the comment about PS...I am not talking about scoring results. I am talking about the feel of a team. You know football enough, igy, to know what I am talking about. I cited Indy, Seattle, Dallas and Baltimore and they all were sloppy and it carried over. So we're talking fundamentals here. Execution of plays and shtein like that. Every one of those teams I listed were listed as legit contenders and what happened with them?
your point was that the eagles looked great regardless of the scores in preseason and were fully prepared and that atlanta looked horrible and would get run
i tried to tell you preseason means jack shtein on all levels and especially so with a chip team who try and go full bore against defenses that could care less...dan quinn baffled chip last year in a real game and was seeing him for the second time last night and like i said chip thus far in his nfl career chip has not been very good when facing people multiple times
Did anyone actually expect Parkey to make that kick? I have a feeling he's going to be a problem to the point they have to bring someone in. He hasn't looked right at all, and I have zero confidence in him at this point.
Quote from: Zanshin on September 15, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
Did anyone actually expect Parkey to make that kick? I have a feeling he's going to be a problem to the point they have to bring someone in. He hasn't looked right at all, and I have zero confidence in him at this point.
Nope
He botched the kick in the skins game last season too. Not a clutch kicker.
not surprised they lost. the team has holes. again, no surprise. work on it and focus on dallas.
I thought I was pretty clean on PS not meaning much by way of overall results. You watch a team and get a feel of them and how things work out. When they're sloppy or getting exposed in one on ones or stuff like that you can see it.
Now does it mean that every team that looks bad (or good) in their execution will carry that over to the regular season? Nope.
Nor does it account for things like ATL selling out to stop the run and the Eagles not being able to burn them for it like they should have in the first half. If Bradford is on point and they make some throws early then its a whole different game.
Bradford def missed on that td pass to ertz. one of many, many mistakes the team made last night.
Bradford didn't have a good first half, obviously. But he did play well enough in the comeback effort that I honestly don't think he's going to be a problem (other than the probability he'll get hurt at some crucial point).
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 15, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
That's missing the point. The 44 yard fg wasn't to win the game. Atlanta gets the ball down 1 with tons of time. That's still likely a L. If there was 3 seconds left I'd agree but there wasn't.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 07:56:12 AM
and lol @ d it up...their secondary sucks and got torched and their supposed great d line got worked as well.....who is going to d up exactly...plus matt bryant is not cody parkey...legendz is right...atlanta wins with a fg there
i don't get this...you guys realize that the eagles stopped them after the kick right? well they stopped them on 3 downs but it's unbelievable that they stop them on 4th down?
i realize people on here are going to complain just because that's the thing but if he makes that kick birds win.
the difference is that if the falcons were losing they would be passing it up and that means julio on maxwell. i don't think it's out of line to think the falcons could have gotten into fg range.
that being said i would have kicked it as well
of course it's possible but are we saying that the falcons were not trying to get a first down there? they were. surprise.
if anything was wrong with that play don't have parkey trotting out with 5 seconds left on the play clock. should have had him out there immediately instead of waiting.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 15, 2015, 10:36:23 AM
i don't get this...you guys realize that the eagles stopped them after the kick right? well they stopped them on 3 downs but it's unbelievable that they stop them on 4th down?
they stopped atlanta after the kick cause the falcons called three vanilla runs against a nine man front just to run the clock down
the more relevant atlanta drive is the one before the parkey miss witht he eagles up 24-23....it went something like this: pass, pass, pass, matt bryant, falcons lead
thats what would have happened if parkey makes it
Quote from: phattymatty on September 15, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
if anything was wrong with that play don't have parkey trotting out with 5 seconds left on the play clock. should have had him out there immediately instead of waiting.
they should have called a timeout....to at least discuss the possibility of going for it and if not you at least arent rushing to kick it...parkey was horrible in the preseason when he kicked and then didnt kick at all for the last three weeks....plus like sd said going back to the washington game he choked...i had little faith in him there....but thats an extra factor in going for it to me...even if they had matt bryant i still would have went for it cause i had zero confidence in them stopping atlanta....or if a kick would have given them a three point lead i may have tried it...then at least you give yourself a chance in overtime even if atlanta comes down and scores
Quote from: phattymatty on September 15, 2015, 10:36:23 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 15, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
That's missing the point. The 44 yard fg wasn't to win the game. Atlanta gets the ball down 1 with tons of time. That's still likely a L. If there was 3 seconds left I'd agree but there wasn't.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 07:56:12 AM
and lol @ d it up...their secondary sucks and got torched and their supposed great d line got worked as well.....who is going to d up exactly...plus matt bryant is not cody parkey...legendz is right...atlanta wins with a fg there
i don't get this...you guys realize that the eagles stopped them after the kick right? well they stopped them on 3 downs but it's unbelievable that they stop them on 4th down?
i realize people on here are going to complain just because that's the thing but if he makes that kick birds win.
yep...the d stinks but they played better in the 2nd half once they started blitzing.
Quote from: hunt on September 15, 2015, 10:53:44 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 15, 2015, 10:36:23 AM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 15, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
That's missing the point. The 44 yard fg wasn't to win the game. Atlanta gets the ball down 1 with tons of time. That's still likely a L. If there was 3 seconds left I'd agree but there wasn't.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 07:56:12 AM
and lol @ d it up...their secondary sucks and got torched and their supposed great d line got worked as well.....who is going to d up exactly...plus matt bryant is not cody parkey...legendz is right...atlanta wins with a fg there
i don't get this...you guys realize that the eagles stopped them after the kick right? well they stopped them on 3 downs but it's unbelievable that they stop them on 4th down?
i realize people on here are going to complain just because that's the thing but if he makes that kick birds win.
the d stinks but they played better in the 2nd half
except on the drive with the game on the line
Byron Maxwell was targeted 11 times last night. He allowed 10 catches for 179 yards, both worst in the NFL in Week 1.
nnamdi maxwell did struggle, no doubt. a pass rush would've helped too. f'n billy davis didn't bring the heat until the 2nd half.
they were max protecting and running 2 man routes for a lot of the game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Byron Maxwell was targeted 11 times last night. He allowed 10 catches for 179 yards, both worst in the NFL in Week 1.
This is technically true-- but in reality Maxwell wasn't targeted, Jones was targeted-- Maxwell happened to be there and basically didn't do enough about it. Not a great start. But the way that's phrased makes it sound like they went after Maxwell. They didn't give a shtein about Maxwell, rightfully. They wanted to get it to Jones, and they did. Maxwell just had a front row seat.
kiko and kendricks were blitzing all game
the adjustment he might have wanted to make was giving some help to maxie pad on julio...it felt like bradley fletcher last year where he just refused to address a disasterous situation...billy dee and for that matter chip are so entrenched in m2m press coverage as their philosophy....at some point you need to play your coner off or if you dont wanna do that at least bring a safety over to help...they just sit back and watch the same thing happen over and over again
Quote from: Zanshin on September 15, 2015, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Byron Maxwell was targeted 11 times last night. He allowed 10 catches for 179 yards, both worst in the NFL in Week 1.
This is technically true-- but in reality Maxwell wasn't targeted, Jones was targeted-- Maxwell happened to be there and basically didn't do enough about it. Not a great start. But the way that's phrased makes it sound like they went after Maxwell. They didn't give a shtein about Maxwell, rightfully. They wanted to get it to Jones, and they did. Maxwell just had a front row seat.
those are all the wr's he covered that why they say maxwell....it was primarily julio but i recall him getting beat at least twice by roddy white
they blitzed but it was too easy for ryan to pick up the blitzer. davis made adjustments and disguised it better in the 2nd 1/2.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on September 15, 2015, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 15, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Byron Maxwell was targeted 11 times last night. He allowed 10 catches for 179 yards, both worst in the NFL in Week 1.
My point is, they threw to the talented open receivers....and Maxwell happened to be (not) covering them. NOW teams might plan to target Maxwell, after that showing.
This is technically true-- but in reality Maxwell wasn't targeted, Jones was targeted-- Maxwell happened to be there and basically didn't do enough about it. Not a great start. But the way that's phrased makes it sound like they went after Maxwell. They didn't give a shtein about Maxwell, rightfully. They wanted to get it to Jones, and they did. Maxwell just had a front row seat.
those are all the wr's he covered that why they say maxwell....it was primarily julio but i recall him getting beat at least twice by roddy white
My point is, they threw to the talented open receivers....and Maxwell happened to be (not) covering them. NOW teams might plan to target Maxwell, after that showing.
if you keep letting your man get open it doesnt take long in the nfl for them to go at you...plus hes a sixth round pick who was surrounded by all pros and covered the other teams weaker wr's for his whole career...would it shock you if they game planned to test him?
I just think that's giving him too much credit. I don't think they cared one way or the other.
yeah mostly.....julio was getting a ton of targets no matter who was on him...but i think a guy who is hitting the spotlight for the first time in his career like that is going to get looked at by the offensive coaches in prep....at the end of the day tho dont let your man get wide open on every play and maybe they will go somewhere else...once they saw early that he had no chance then it was ON
Sure, blood in the water.
this is good to see....have yet to rewatch the game but i would have thought these numbers were much closer
snaps
aggie - 59
kkk - 43
huff - 36
also feel like maragos was on the field a lot last night and not on special teams. not a good sign.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 15, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
also feel like maragos was on the field a lot last night and not on special teams. not a good sign.
yeah im pretty sure when they traded boykin the plan was not to have chris maragos on the field that much....or at all
OK night to digest this freak show. Just heard Sal Pal on Miss' show.
Eagles had:
2 INTs thrown
10 accepted penalties - HUGE penalties
missed field goal to win
punter has a 31 yard kick to set up a FG
Julio eating Maxwell for lunch
YET only lost by 2
I feel so much better
much more concerned that most of the weaknesses I feared coming into the season came to fruition than I am about the loss
No doubt. My biggest fear was the OL coming in. Secondary shouldn't have surprised us. Yeah I'm all over Maxwell but Julio Jones may be the best WR in the NFL, at least top 3. Maxwell looked like dog poop but I'll cut him some slack. The OL is a big concern. Peters looked old and beat lst night against the rookie. The guards are a joke. Lane Johnson played OK and Kelce is still a beast, damn like the Falcons weren't holdign all night themselves.
WR, shtein man, Huff, KKK, Matthews, Carmichael Jr., Austin. Talk about it is what it is, that's this group.
https://twitter.com/olinescout/status/643959083868008448
Peters gettin nasty
PFF graded Kiko Alonso as the worst player in the game Monday
I have no idea how Kiko was for most of the game without going back and rewatching but anyone other than Maxwell grading worst shows the flaws PFF has.
yup
its well known im not a massive analytics guy however i do believe they deservedly have a place in sports...but when it comes to the nfl they are virtually worthless
what is PFF?
Hoyda farging fraternity
oh the filter makes that less funny
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on September 16, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
I have no idea how Kiko was for most of the game without going back and rewatching but anyone other than Maxwell grading worst shows the flaws PFF has.
agreed, that int has to account for something. Maxwell on the other hand, might as well have been the mvp for Atlanta.
Any average CB in the league would have the kind of day Maxwell had against Julio. He wasn't the worst player on the field, just overmatched. Kiko got nailed for bad tackling attempts and repeatedly getting owned by the Falcons FB on running plays.
FWIW (not much, probably) here are the Eagle grades that PFF publicly released for the game:
NT Bennie Logan (+3.1)
SS Malcolm Jenkins (+2.9)
RT Lane Johnson (+2.8 )
HB Darren Sproles (+2.2)
ILB Mychal Kendricks (+2.1)
DE Fletcher Cox (+1.8 )
LT Jason Peters (+0.2)
OLB Brandon Graham (-0.8 )
QB Sam Bradford (-1.4)
RILB DeMeco Ryans (-2.0)
OLB Connor Barwin (-2.5)
ILB Kiko Alonso (-3.6)
how does being overmatched excuse piss poor play ? Maxwell was owned by anyone he covered.
by PFF's logic, bradley fletcher wasn't that bad eiher.
just curious as to how it stacks up i looked and i would say that monday was no worse than his 6th best game ever out of 53 played
its also good to know that 63 million bucks bought them an average cb
spin it how you want maxie pad was by far the worst player on the field...julio is going to get his but maxie pad was gettin worked by fossil roddy white as well...it also wasnt just that his receivers went off it was by how much they were open...maxie was not even competitive on most plays and out of the picture...it wasnt like jj was outleaping him for 50/50 balls all the time...also the 45 yarder led directly to the gw fg
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
its also good to know that 63 million bucks bought them an average cb
That's been known since he was signed, to anyone paying attention. Him being promoted as some kind of a shutdown corner was ridiculous. The best anyone could reasonably hope for is that he had the potential to that level with coaching and experience.
Anyway, someone posted all the PFF grades and lo and behold, they had Maxwell graded worse than Alonso. -3.7 for Maxwell. And they had Barbre graded worse than either of them.
Hopefully he fares better when the opposing coach wasn't his coordinator for the last two years, or we're back to where the team was the end of last year.
QuoteOFFENSE
Best
Lane Johnson +2.8
Darren Sproles +2.2
Andrew Gardner +2.1
Analysis:
Not a lot of good grades to be found on offense.
Johnson and Gardner graded out well in pass protection and OK as run blockers.
Sproles obviously had a great game. He finished with 126 total yards from scrimmage (50 rushing, 76 receiving) on 12 total touches (five carries, seven receptions).
Worst
Allen Barbre -3.9
Nelson Agholor -2.7
Jason Kelce -2.5
Sam Bradford -1.4
Barbre's first regular season game starting at left guard for the Eagles did not go very well for him. He really struggled as a run blocker. He also allowed two quarterback hurries and committed a holding penalty.
Agholor was very quiet in his NFL debut. He played 59 snaps but only managed one catch for five yards. He also got called for a penalty. In Agholor's defense, there was a play where he Desmond Trufant blatantly held onto his face mask before the ball came his way. No call.
Kelce's negative grade is surprising because I thought he looked pretty good. PFF graded him poorly as a blocker on screen plays. Weird.
Bradford threw 31 completions on 41 attempts for 288 yards, one interception, and a 84.2 passer rating when not pressured. When he was pressured, he threw just five completions on 11 attempts for 48 yards, one touchdown, one interception, and a 50.6 passer rating. It was clear there were timing issues with Bradford and his pass catchers are times. Bradford also never really attempted many deep passes, which has always been an issue with him.
DEFENSE
Best
Bennie Logan +3.1
Malcolm Jenkins +2.9
Mychal Kendricks +2.1
Fletcher Cox +1.8
Walter Thurmond +1.5
Analysis:
Logan continues to look like a beast in the middle. Along with one quarterback hurry, he had five tackles and four run stops.
Despite dropping two interceptions, Jenkins played well. He was targeted six times but only allowed three receptions for 16 yards. Jenkins also made six tackles, including a crucial tackle for loss in the backfield on third down late in the game.
Kendricks graded out well as a run defender. He finished with nine tackles and six run stops.
Cox excelled as a pass rusher. He recorded one sack and one quarterback hurry. He would have had two sacks and a forced fumble if not for a (tacky) holding penalty wiping out his great play.
Thurmond played well in his full game in his entire career lining up at safety. He made four tackles, hit Matt Ryan once, and recorded an interception. Thurmond was targeted three times but only allowed two receptions for 17 yards.
Honorable mention: Taylor Hart graded out very well as a run defender despite playing a limited amount of snaps.
Worst
Byron Maxwell -3.7
Kiko Alonso -3.6
Connor Barwin -2.5
DeMeco Ryans -2.0
Cedric Thornton -1.1
Analysis:
Maxwell was terrible. Maxwell looked like the real deal in training camp and preseason, but he just didn't show up during last night's game. He was beaten with ease on a regular basis. On the 11 times he was targeted, Maxwell allowed 10 receptions for a whopping 179 yards and one touchdown. To his credit, he did have one pass defensed. For the most part, however, he was toast. Not a good sign considering how much money the Eagles spent on him to be a solution in their secondary.
Alonso graded out really poorly as a run defender. He missed one tackle.
Barwin missed a tackle in run defense and failed to generate pressure. In 31 pass rush snaps, Barwin didn't record a single sack, hit, or hurry on the quarterback.
Ryans whiffed badly on a tackle in run defense and struggled in coverage.
Thornton was marked down for his lack of a pass rush.
QuoteAgholor was very quiet in his NFL debut. He played 59 snaps
59? Really?
so i rewatched the game thru the coaches film last night and while it was not pretty the one unit i would say has gotten way too much criticism this week is the defensive line....ice was getting the ball out of his hands so damn fast...lots of 3 and 5 step immediately release the ball drops...add in mass protect and excellent blocking by the atlanta backs and it was tough to get there...brandon graham was awful but everyone else got their fair share of penetration but just didnt have time to get to the qb....of course it didnt help that maxie pad couldnt cover anyone so ice most of the time had availability to throw the ball as soon as he planted