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reid's an idiot.  he can't game plan for his current players.. is a horrible game day coach and is an all around total idiot.  lets see what mcnabb can do with a little more dedication to the run.

I've had it with both of them but if I had to choose I'd rather see Reid take a hike.

He might be the worst game day coach I've ever seen.  I honestly don't see how that fat corksucker has won 100 games in the NFL.

i'm at the point where its time to get them out of here.  Mcnabb i always thought would benefit from not having to throw 50times a game, but it doesnt matter when its crunch time, he always comes up small. 

problem is mcnabbs skills both mental and physical have digressed to the point where he probably cant win a superbowl with any coach and he isnt getting younger...thats not to say reid shouldnt have been outta here for a while but this really would have been a more relevant question five years ago

McNabb can win a superbowl, and by that I mean he can be the quarterback on a superbowl team. He needs to be kept off his ass, surrounded by decent talent, and in an offense with a strong running game. We know his still very capable of flicking passed down the field 50 yards in 7 on 7 drills, but his days cutting his sack total in half are over. I'm still not ready for the Kolb era to start, but the offensive line won't be fixed this year, and maybe not next. McNabb's best years in Philadelphia are behind him because of that more than anything.

Reid, on the other hand, will never win a championship as a head coach. His list of flaws exceeds his list of positive attributes.

Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
McNabb can win a superbowl, and by that I mean he can be the quarterback on a superbowl team. He needs to be kept off his ass, surrounded by decent talent, and in an offense with a strong running game. We know his still very capable of flicking passed down the field 50 yards in 7 on 7 drills, but his days cutting his sack total in half are over. I'm still not ready for the Kolb era to start, but the offensive line won't be fixed this year, and maybe not next. McNabb's best years in Philadelphia are behind him because of that more than anything.

Reid, on the other hand, will never win a championship as a head coach. His list of flaws exceeds his list of positive attributes.

The same can be said for every QB in the league sans maybe Manning and Brady. The issue isn't McNabb, the issue is the coaching and this year the offensive line.

McNabb isn't the best, but I'd rather take my chances with him then someone unproven. I still remember 3-13 before McNabb got here...no thanks.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2009, 09:07:58 PM
problem is mcnabbs skills both mental and physical have digressed to the point where he probably cant win a superbowl with any coach and he isnt getting younger...thats not to say reid shouldnt have been outta here for a while but this really would have been a more relevant question five years ago

lol...what a load of shtein

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The biggest problem with Reid is that he's had the same problems for years and he's improved nothing. The most cliche mantra players spew every week after a loss is "we just have to get better at ___________." Reid hasn't gotten any better and at this point it is safe to say he never will.

McNabb on the other hand might improve with the right coach. He and Reid tend to mirror each other and if he had a coach that wasn't so uptight, his delicate psyche might nut up. The only thing Reid has ever done to kick McNabb into shape is bench him. That worked, but for some reason I don't see Reid doing that again, especially after paying him apology money.

the mcnabb homers are so blind its not even funny

he had a good run it just didnt happen. next.

Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
McNabb can win a superbowl, and by that I mean he can be the quarterback on a superbowl team. He needs to be kept off his ass, surrounded by decent talent, and in an offense with a strong running game. We know his still very capable of flicking passed down the field 50 yards in 7 on 7 drills, but his days cutting his sack total in half are over. I'm still not ready for the Kolb era to start, but the offensive line won't be fixed this year, and maybe not next. McNabb's best years in Philadelphia are behind him because of that more than anything.

Reid, on the other hand, will never win a championship as a head coach. His list of flaws exceeds his list of positive attributes.

This here. McNabb can win this team a Super Bowl, provided the coach isn't sabotaging him with less than average talent (for the most part), horrible playcalling and game management along the way.

Quote from: MDS on November 10, 2009, 11:46:11 PM
the mcnabb homers are so blind its not even funny

he had a good run it just didn't ain't gonna happen. next.

i suppose techinically mcnabb can win a superbowl but so could 20 other quarterbacks in the nfl...people act like mcnabb is some great qb...at this point in his career hes no better or worse than about half the league and is only digressing...small minded idiots like munson think its either mcnabb or 3-13...like there isnt something better than mcnabb out there much less 3-13 if he leaves

and bitch about the coach all you want 1-8-1 in close games over the last year or so is inexcusable and 99% on the qb...basically if the guy has the ball in his hands late in the a game and you need a score youre going to lose...and this is the guy who you want leading you to a superbowl?

changing the coach will not make mcnabb any younger more accurate less injury prone or more clutch....again the time to make a coaching change that would better the qb was when he was 26 or 27....not 34 going into the last year of a contract

basically that

stop coddling mcnabb like the baby that he is and just accept that the fact that its over. hes not winning a superbowl here. or probably anywhere. and itll be good for him. now he can pout and whine and give the half smiles with all the condescension in the world. he loves that stuff.

 You're an idiot, and you really must remove your lips from IGY's ass.

alrighty then nutjob tell me how mcnabb is great and how im wrong bla bla bla. explain yoself.

reid. the head coach and the GM.

mcnabb can win it all but not with the current coach.

reid can't win regardless of who is under center.

Quote from: MDS on November 11, 2009, 11:36:06 AM
alrighty then nutjob tell me how mcnabb is great and how im wrong bla bla bla. explain yoself.

McNabb's passing percentage in the two minute offense this season: 77%
McNabb's passing percentage through 30 passes a game, which we all agree should be as many as he should have to throw in a properly run offense: 62% Clearly terrible
McNabb's career pass/int ratio: 48:1
Tom Brady's HoF career pass/int ratio: 43:1

Stats are awesome, right? You're still an idiot if you need this shtein explained to you. You've watched his entire farging career. You that he spent years carrying terrible receivers into the playoffs. Now, he has quality receivers and backs on offense. You also know that he has no offensive line and the worst gameplan in the history of the NFL.

So I repeat myself. If McNabb had a proper offensive line, these skill players around him, and a coach that knew how to gameplan, he would win a superbowl.

Go on, keep parroting IGY's super cool McNabb Sucks lol he hates teh wining mantra. He'll buy you an ice cream.

ha

I think McNabb is a gutless choker. But he's clearly good enough to win a championship.

Andy Reid is not good enough to GET TO a championship without the most ridiculous circumstances falling in in his favor. Never mind win one. He's the worst in-game coach I have ever seen, and in a hilariously awful twist of fate, he hired the second-worst in-game coach of all time to be his right-hand man. It's a farging comedy of errors on the sideline during the game. That isn't McNabb's fault. It's Reids. farg Andy Reid.

I hate the Eagles.  :'( :'( :'(

Quote from: rjs246 on November 11, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
I think McNabb is a gutless choker. But he's clearly good enough to win a championship.

he hired the second-worst in-game coach of all time to be his right-hand man. It's a farging comedy of errors on the sideline during the game.

this cant be said enough times. the errors and decision-making that Marty made over in detroit were so beyond awful, I was shocked to hear that he was offered a coaching position---low and behold welcome to philadelphia.

Well we all know McNabb can't excel in Reids offense and with his clock management, I am not sure even Brady or Manning could either. McNabb needs a balanced offense. Yes this is a prediction but I know this would be true because I am the man. Now suck my balls and lick my anus.

Quote from: mussa on November 11, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
Well we all know McNabb can't excel in Reids offense and with his clock management, I am not sure even Brady or Manning could either. McNabb needs a balanced offense. Yes this is a prediction but I know this would be true because I am the man. Now suck my balls and lick my anus.

I got a grand that says they could

Quote from: reese125 on November 11, 2009, 02:12:39 PM

Quote from: mussa on November 11, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
Well we all know McNabb can't excel in Reids offense and with his clock management, I am not sure even Brady or Manning could either. McNabb needs a balanced offense. Yes this is a prediction but I know this would be true because I am the man. Now suck my balls and lick my anus.

I got a grand that says they could

and this is proven how ? by the ability the have shown to handle the same type of situations throughout their careers ?

Quote from: reese125 on November 11, 2009, 02:12:39 PM

Quote from: mussa on November 11, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
Well we all know McNabb can't excel in Reids offense and with his clock management, I am not sure even Brady or Manning could either. McNabb needs a balanced offense. Yes this is a prediction but I know this would be true because I am the man. Now suck my balls and lick my anus.

I got a grand that says they could

seriously that might be the dumbest thing any mcnabb apologist has ever said in his defense....comparing arguably the two best qb's of all time to donovan farging mcnabb...is this a joke?....whats even better is using a complete hypothetical to try and defend the guy instead of looking at what each has actually done in their careers

Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2009, 01:23:41 PM

Quote from: MDS on November 11, 2009, 11:36:06 AM
alrighty then nutjob tell me how mcnabb is great and how im wrong bla bla bla. explain yoself.

McNabb's passing percentage in the two minute offense this season: 77%
McNabb's passing percentage through 30 passes a game, which we all agree should be as many as he should have to throw in a properly run offense: 62% Clearly terrible
McNabb's career pass/int ratio: 48:1
Tom Brady's HoF career pass/int ratio: 43:1

the pass/int numbers are false...i assuming youre playing around for some reason tho im not sure why...anyway if youre by chance not do you have links on the other two stats?

Quote from: General_Failure on November 11, 2009, 01:23:41 PM
Stats are awesome, right?

so are superbowls

Quote from: sean_sec227 on November 11, 2009, 02:24:58 PM

Quote from: reese125 on November 11, 2009, 02:12:39 PM

Quote from: mussa on November 11, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
Well we all know McNabb can't excel in Reids offense and with his clock management, I am not sure even Brady or Manning could either. McNabb needs a balanced offense. Yes this is a prediction but I know this would be true because I am the man. Now suck my balls and lick my anus.

I got a grand that says they could

and this is proven how ? by the ability the have shown to handle the same type of situations throughout their careers ?

it cant be proven nor can saying brady wouldnt win on the eagles...which is what makes the argument really sad and pathetic in trying to defend donovan...i mean really thats the best you can come up with

reese is right tho as far as the wager...is there any sane person on this board who wouldnt put their money on brady in that bet

Quoteand this is proven how ? by the ability the have shown to handle the same type of situations throughout their careers ?

lets try not to pretend that McNabb has been running for his life every year. He had one of the best pass blocking o-lines throughout some of his years with Runyan and Tre in there and has had plenty of time to throw

you put brady or manning in his situations and yes I bet that they come out on top

plus bradys wr's were horrible during their superbowls

you ball lickers are missing the point. the point is, Reids coaching/playing calling/clock management is so bad, that I think even the best QB's could be exposed. I'm not defending McNabb at all. I stated he needs a balanced offense to be good/consistent. I think Reids offense in theory, not faith, is better suited for Brady or Manning, and yes they would do better than McNabb, thats clearly obvious. I'm stating Reid is the bigger problem and he needs to go. Like I have been saying for years.

i wanted reid fired probably around 2002 or 2003...i cant even remember exactly when it was now....so dont tell me how bad a coach he is cause i was on his shtein when you wanted him signed to a lifetime contract

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:29:53 PM

Quote from: reese125 on November 11, 2009, 02:12:39 PM


and this is proven how ? by the ability the have shown to handle the same type of situations throughout their careers ?

it cant be proven nor can saying brady wouldnt win on the eagles...which is what makes the argument really sad and pathetic in trying to defend donovan...i mean really thats the best you can come up with

reese is right tho as far as the wager...is there any sane person on this board who wouldnt put their money on brady in that bet

my point was the same that you just made twinkletoes, that it can't proven one way or the other. so both sides of that arguement are pathetic and really do nothing but derail the real issue which is what we have isn't working, never did and never will.

its just assinine from either side and a complete embarrassment and slap in the face of brady to even mention the two in the same conversation so we all should just stop

Quote from: reese125 on November 11, 2009, 02:30:55 PM


you put brady or manning in his situations and yes I bet that they come out on top

mind numbingly stupid considering reid trumps anything.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 03:03:40 PM
its just assinine from either side and a complete embarrassment and slap in the face of brady to even mention the two in the same conversation so we all should just stop

agreed. plus it takes away from my loathing of reid.  8)

Manning or Brady would have demanded a trade. Actually, Brady would have been a never-was, considering where he was drafted. Manning would have pitched a fit and gotten the hell out of town.

so then you all agree with me that reid is the problem ?

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
i wanted reid fired probably around 2002 or 2003...i cant even remember exactly when it was now....so dont tell me how bad a coach he is cause i was on his shtein when you wanted him signed to a lifetime contract

I believe you IGY. Really, I do. Point is Reid needs to go and if that means an end to the McNabb era then fine. I am all for it.

they came into this together, they can leave the same way.

Quote from: mussa on November 11, 2009, 03:09:52 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
i wanted reid fired probably around 2002 or 2003...i cant even remember exactly when it was now....so dont tell me how bad a coach he is cause i was on his shtein when you wanted him signed to a lifetime contract

I believe you IGY. Really, I do. Point is Reid needs to go and if that means an end to the McNabb era then fine. I am all for it.

IN

Quote from: Eagaholic on November 10, 2009, 11:28:37 PM
The biggest problem with Reid is that he's had the same problems for years and he's improved nothing. The most cliche mantra players spew every week after a loss is "we just have to get better at ___________." Reid hasn't gotten any better and at this point it is safe to say he never will.

McNabb on the other hand might improve with the right coach.  He and Reid tend to mirror each other and if he had a coach that wasn't so uptight, his delicate psyche might nut up. The only thing Reid has ever done to kick McNabb into shape is bench him. That worked, but for some reason I don't see Reid doing that again, especially after paying him apology money.

agree and disagree at the same time.  both reid and mcnabb have had 10 years now to fix their flaws.  reid is a terrible playcaller/in-game coach.  mcnabb can sometimes be the most inaccurate qb ever seen.  i think the difference between the 2 is that reid really doesn't see his flaws as flaws.  he thinks his way is the only way to do things and because of that, never attempts to fix himself.

mcnabb on the other hand, i do believe, has tried to correct his accuracy issues.  but he is what he is. 

a new coach won't make mcnabb hit open receivers in stride.  a new coach won't make mcnabb a better "clutch" qb.  mcnabb is possibly the most perplexing athlete i've ever seen because when he's on he is absolutely amazing to watch.  and when he's off, it's like watching a cheeleader try and play quarterback.  and the same could be said about brady or manning.  i've seen them both have amazing games and terrible games.  but the difference when it comes to guys like brady or manning is that for every terrible game they have, they'll have 5 or 6 great games.  but for every bad game mcnabb has, he'll only have 2 or 3 great games to counter.

mcnabb's still my guy though.  i'm a huge fan of his so i'll suffer through his inadaquecies as a qb because i do think that he does have what it takes to win a championship.  the only ? with him is which mcnabb will show up on game day?  i don't think it has as much to do with him being mentally soft in big games, but it's simply a coin flip on which mcnabb will show up for the big game and more often than not, we've seen bad mcnabb. 

but really, to expect mcnabb's deficiencies to suddenly disappear with a new hc or oc is a bit silly imo. 

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
i wanted reid fired probably around 2002 or 2003...i cant even remember exactly when it was now....so dont tell me how bad a coach he is cause i was on his shtein when you wanted him signed to a lifetime contract

i lost my patience with reid when they got beat by tampa in the first game at the linc in 2003.  he had 9 farging months to prepare for the bucs after losing to them in the nfcc game and got blown out of the building.  so farg him. 

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
and the same could be said about brady or manning.  i've seen them both have amazing games and terrible games.  but the difference when it comes to guys like brady or manning is that for every terrible game they have, they'll have 5 or 6 great games.  but for every bad game mcnabb has, he'll only have 2 or 3 great games to counter.   

mcnabbs great games generally occur in october against bad teams

He's had one or two in January against bad teams as well.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:37:24 PM
plus bradys wr's were horrible during their superbowls

lol

Troy Brown/Deion Branch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Thrash/Todd Pinkston


Also,
The Hoodie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reid


Switch the QBs, Tom Brady doesn't do shtein, McNabb has a ring.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 02:37:24 PM
plus bradys wr's were horrible during their superbowls

lol, do you really think that?  they weren't world beaters but they were still very good, smart and above all, had good hands.  troy brown is probably a top 15 favorite of mine.  dude was a true football player and i'll take 53 of him on the eagles any day of the week. 

Don't you know the cool thing to do is diminish the Eagle players and prop up the opposing players?!

troy brown was better than any eagle wr but he was nothing special...he was 100% a tom brady creation....lol at you even mentioning deion branch...

and however many >'s you used for belichek vs reid times them by ten and replace the names with brady and mcnabb

brady might be the best qb EVER mcnabb might be the best eagle qb ever...just stop talking brady mcnabb...its actually sickening

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2009, 03:50:38 PM
Don't you know the cool thing to do is diminish the Eagle players and prop up the opposing players?!

who did that

I just like when IGY says there's no way to ever know what Manning or Brady would do in this offense....but somehow he knows what goes on in McNabb's head and how he actually wantsto lose and loses on purpose just cause he's mad at the fans.


One hypothetical situation that actually makes logical sense=UNPOSSIBLE TO KNOW
The other that makes absolutely no sense at all=Definitely possible

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 03:53:03 PM
troy brown was better than any eagle wr but he was nothing special...he was 100% a tom brady creation....lol at you even mentioning deion branch...

and however many >'s you used for belichek vs reid times them by ten and replace the names with brady and mcnabb

brady might be the best qb EVER mcnabb might be the best eagle qb ever...just stop talking brady mcnabb...its actually sickening

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 11, 2009, 03:50:38 PM
Don't you know the cool thing to do is diminish the Eagle players and prop up the opposing players?!

who did that

Christ you're an idiot.

Deion Branch was an actual NFL player and has proven that by continuing to play in the NFL. Pinkston fell off the face of the Earth and Thrash went back to Washington...which is the same thing.

Brady wouldn't have won a damn thing in Philly. McNabb would have still gotten the Pats a ring with that team, gameplan, and vastly superior coach.

Shut up.

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2009, 03:56:10 PM
Brady wouldn't have won a damn thing in Philly. McNabb would have still gotten the Pats a ring with that team, gameplan, and vastly superior coach.

i can't agree or disagree with absolute certainty either way.  mcnabb's inaccuracy could very well have cost the pats a championship or 2.  it could be argued that since the pats didn't have elite wr's, they relied on accuracy and proper touch on the ball in order to make plays.  because aside from accuracy issues, another issue of mcnabb's has been the heat he throws on the short/intermediate routes that could go through a brick wall. 

the truth is, the reason the pats won a few titles is because they had complete teams with no glaring weaknesses at all and during the eagles best years they had problems at wr, fb, lb and head coach.

deion branch sucks and at best was as good a wr as thrash...and if you wanna go who was better in their respective primes thrash was marginally better...the point is the difference in them is negligible and to try and say brady won because he had wr's and mcnabb didnt is assinine...but again youd have to actually watch the games and know what you were looking at when this all happened and you were like 12 when this all went down

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
I just like when IGY says there's no way to ever know what Manning or Brady would do in this offense....but somehow he knows what goes on in McNabb's head and how he actually wantsto lose and loses on purpose just cause he's mad at the fans.


One hypothetical situation that actually makes logical sense=UNPOSSIBLE TO KNOW
The other that makes absolutely no sense at all=Definitely possible

newsflash: brady NEVER PLAYED WITH THE EAGLES...while donovan has played in the nfl for the last 11 seasons...whether you agree that donovan has serious emotional issues and has a pathological woe is me attitude the fact is ive been able to watch him on the field for over a decade and make that determination...how are you comparing that to something thats never even farging happened...are you that stupid??

Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2009, 04:05:15 PM

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2009, 03:56:10 PM
Brady wouldn't have won a damn thing in Philly. McNabb would have still gotten the Pats a ring with that team, gameplan, and vastly superior coach.

i can't agree or disagree with absolute certainty either way.  mcnabb's inaccuracy could very well have cost the pats a championship or 2.  it could be argued that since the pats didn't have elite wr's, they relied on accuracy and proper touch on the ball in order to make plays.  because aside from accuracy issues, another issue of mcnabb's has been the heat he throws on the short/intermediate routes that could go through a brick wall. 

the truth is, the reason the pats won a few titles is because they had complete teams with no glaring weaknesses at all and during the eagles best years they had problems at wr, fb and/or lb. 

I agree, but if McNabbs limited accuracy could get to the NFC Championship game with the WR's he had here....I don't think it's a far stretch to say he could win a SB with better WR's, a better game plan, and a coach who would know how to call a game/put McNabb in a better position to win.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 04:06:39 PM
deion branch sucks and at best was as good a wr as thrash...and if you wanna go who was better in their respective primes thrash was marginally better...the point is the difference in them is negligible and to try and say brady won because he had wr's and mcnabb didnt is assinine...but again youd have to actually watch the games and know what you were looking at when this all happened and you were like 12 when this all went down

Quote from: Munson on November 11, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
I just like when IGY says there's no way to ever know what Manning or Brady would do in this offense....but somehow he knows what goes on in McNabb's head and how he actually wantsto lose and loses on purpose just cause he's mad at the fans.


One hypothetical situation that actually makes logical sense=UNPOSSIBLE TO KNOW
The other that makes absolutely no sense at all=Definitely possible

newsflash: brady NEVER PLAYED WITH THE EAGLES...while donovan has played in the nfl for the last 11 seasons...whether you agree that donovan has serious emotional issues and has a pathological woe is me attitude the fact is ive been able to watch him on the field for over a decade and make that determination...how are you comparing that to something thats never even farging happened...are you that stupid??

RIF

1. I never said he won strictly because of better WR's. RIF

2. LOL yes, you know everything about the guys brain because you've watched him play football and win more games then he lost...but no obviously he was trying to lose those games because he's mad at the Dirty 30.


You are a joke. I don't even have to say anything else because the more you try and play Dr. Phil to a guy you've never met in your life, the more of an ass you make out of yourself.

the nfc has sucked ass for basically mcnabbs whole career...thats the only reason he had the "success" he did and still could only even get to one superbowl...look at his record against the afc...hes not even guaranteed to make the playoffs in the afc much less win a superbowl in that conference...i give mcnabb credit for being the best qb in a terrible division and taking advantage but christ tom brady who might be the best ever missed the playoffs twice over there


again this is too unimaginable to even process...comparing brady to mcnabb...whats next a duce staley jim brown showdown

I'm pretty sure that my post already settled this discussion so you can all feel free to shut up now.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
the nfc has sucked ass for basically mcnabbs whole career...thats the only reason he had the "success" he did and still could only even get to one superbowl...look at his record against the afc...hes not even guaranteed to make the playoffs in the afc much less win a superbowl in that conference...i give mcnabb credit for being the best qb in a terrible division and taking advantage but christ tom brady who might be the best ever missed the playoffs twice over there


again this is too unimaginable to even process...comparing brady to mcnabb...whats next a duce staley jim brown showdown

Yes, Only McNabb has that record against the AFC. It has nothing to do with the rest of the team or the terrible coach.

You've done a good job over the years of blaming the QB too much and never giving him the credit when they win. The pendulum swings both ways...if he has that much influence on the team when they lose, he has that same influence when they win.



Lol at you thinking Tom Brady is successful in Andy Reid's offense throwing to James Thrash and Todd Pinkston. And Freddie Mitchell. And Na Brown.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
whats next a duce staley jim brown showdown

like anyone can even compare the 2 of them.  it's gotta be duce, right?

Jim Brown didn't have a cool "duuuuuuce" like chant. Duce obviously has the advantage.

Lol @ giving credit to mcnabb.

Wins over the packers in november don't count. His one two three four five playoff failures say hi. He failed miserably in everyone of those games and has a zesty attitude to go along with it.

He may win elsewhere if its the right spot. He's the besr qb in birds historÝ. But its beyond time to move on. Reid too.

The question is who should we get rid of first....by and far it's Reid. He's never going to become a balanced coach and therefore will never be a winner.

McNabb has overcome zesty playcalling, coaching, and supporting casts for most of his career. I'd rather stick with him than Reid.

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2009, 04:06:39 PM
deion branch sucks and at best was as good a wr as thrash...and if you wanna go who was better in their respective primes thrash was marginally better...the point is the difference in them is negligible

ummm, no. it was a bit more than negligible. quite a bit  more considering branch has played like 4-5 less seasons.

thrash - 290catches / 3646yrds - 12.6avg - 22tds

branch - 363 catches / 4697yrds - 12.9avg - 27tds


disclaimer - i am not defending mcnabb here - just merely picking apart this silly post of yours.

For some reason IGY thinks I was saying Branch was all world.

Branch was young and promising when he was with the Pats and showed twice as much potential than both Thrash and Pinkston combined. Doesn't mean Branch is an all pro...just means he was better than what the Eagles had.

well, i still think the switch-a-roo theory is just silly. but then again i love to insitgate so ....  :)

I don't think it's a comparison of QB's...Brady is easily better than McNabb, I don't think anyone outside of McNabb's mother would question that. But Brady was a nobody who had a great team/coach/gameplan around him when he first came to light. I don't see why anyone thinks Brady would succeed with the supporting cast he would have had here. And McNabb isn;'t the best, but he certainly isn't bad enough to ruin with the Pats had going in the early 00's.

Quote from: sean_sec227 on November 11, 2009, 05:28:03 PM
well, i still think the switch-a-roo theory is just silly.

munsons life is silly and youd do best to avoid reading anything he has to say...hes a child

And you're an idiot.

shut up you twats

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This guy is never going to fire Reid. Light your hair on fire all you want about how bad Reid sucks, if anyone is going, McNabb goes first.

I think we all know what it'll take to get rid of Reid.

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I suck at interwebs stuff, but if I was good, I always wanted to make a Moe/Larry/Curly pic with Joe/Jeffrey/Andy. Awoobwooobwooobwooob!

Myocardial Infarction? Capital idea. Lets start a food drive for Andy. I'm in for a pallet of these...

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Quote from: Eagaholic on November 11, 2009, 10:07:40 PM
I suck at interwebs stuff, but if I was good, I always wanted to make a Moe/Larry/Curly pic with Joe/Jeffrey/Andy. Awoobwooobwooobwooob!

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im now 95% convinced mcnabb is done as an eagle after this season....howard eskin who would go to war defending mcnabb for the last 10 years has over the last couple weeks done a 180 and now does nothing but blame him for almost everything thats wrong with the birds

now if you know eskin he is the last person on earth that would ever admit he was wrong...so to me the only explanantion for this shift is due to a directive from banner inc.....which obviously means banner inc wants donovan out

Okay....but who was the other shooter on the grassy knoll, or did he miss on purpose to get back at the CIA for booing him during target practice?

take McHeart-throbs shaft out your mouth. its over and its time. its no ones fault.

You try too hard.

it aint hard son. it is what it is. its time for some changes.

lol at igy and mds leadin' the McNabb hate parade. Citing Eskin and booking that he's psychologically cooked.

I can't fathom how people can't see the truth

This thing we had is over. It was over when andy reid punted on 4th down against the saints. Last year was unquestioned luck and mcnabb had a drive to tie it and still choked.

Its not gonna happen this year or any year for this group. So end it. Time for a new regime.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 13, 2009, 08:36:33 AM
lol at igy and mds leadin' the McNabb hate parade. Citing Eskin and booking that he's psychologically cooked.

you must not listen to eskin...he is the front offices mouthpiece...he doesnt saying anything they dont want him to say...and for him to go from #1 all time mcnabb supporter to mcnabb hater overnite tells me banner inc wants bad pr out there about mcnabb so that when they cut him this offseason it looks like hes cooked to as many fans as possible

Until Denver signs him and he leads them to a Championship with Dawkins.

Then I open a vein and let it all slowly drift away.

no way denver is winning back to back titles