So this is it; another season down the drain. It sickens me to have to watch the Eagles play meaningless football. I hated feeling like this in 2005 and I hate it even more now. Another year without a farging Super Bowl.
This may be the last time we see 5 in green and that saddens me. I sure hope he's back next year. Even though Reid said Dawk would likely be back next year, we know that could change too.
I am curious to see how Stewie follows up last week.
Bradley
Celek
Gocong
That's who I'm focusing on today.
First time in forever that I've got a chance to sit down and watch a game with my kids. They're pretty stoked, especially since I bought each of them a jersey for x-mas. This is the most meaningless game I've ever looked forward to watching.
And I'll be paying attention to those 3 as well, Phreak. Is Andrews playing today?
Don't know Sarge..I've just started looking at the paper today. I would like to see him out there but there's no reason to risk it. Honestly, and I know Andy wouldn't do this, but if they are having any thoughts whatsoever of letting Tra or Runyan walk - today would be the day to let Andrews move outside to tackle. Reid wouldn't do it because it'd be telegraphing the release of one of those guys to the rest of the league and they could hold some trade value. Sit them down today and they diminish whatever value they hold.
I was originally against moving Andrews outside, but with the way MJG has played (he looked much better last week in NO) I am more open to seeing Andrews slide out there.
Justice needs another shot to prove himself at LT, but I almost would rather see Andrews be the LT of the future and not the RT like the Eagles seem to think he is.
But I would not let Tra or Runyan go just yet.
If MJG plays well today, I let him fight with the wost Manneans next year for LG.
MJG did play well last week and I'd like to see how he follows that up. Wasn't it him that blew up Hollis Thomas and pushed him into Simoneau on the Buck td run?
And they should definately bring Thomas and Runyan back next year. Both are still playing exceptionally well and have been healthy. Well, healthy enough to not miss games anyway. The oline has been the most consistant/stable part of this team since Reid got here other than kicker. Yes, they've lost a player here and there or brought in someone new/better but since 2000 there hasn't been any type of overhaul upfront.
Not sure what I think about Andrews moving to LT though. I wouldn't mind seeing him at RT because I think he would be great at sealing off the edge for Westy and I don't think there's quite the injury risk on the outside because you don't have to worry about players rolling up the back of your leg as much as you do when you play inside.
At the same time though, Andrews does have a few ?'s regarding his health and I don't know if I want that protecting 5's (or whatever qb's) blind spot. The LT needs be someone durable and Thomas hasn't missed many games in his career. He's really done a great job bringing stability to that side of the line for the last 10 years and while I'm sure Andrews can play the position just as well, if not better, I don't know if the consistancy/durability will be there.
Yep, that fat body was out there making holes for Westbrook pretty well. And a right side of MJG and Andrews is tempting to think about as a strong-side tandem. But then again, if MJG took over for Herremans and Andrews played LT they'd be the weak side pair.
I agree with bringing them back. Keep them here until their deals expire and don't make a change until forced to. Although the OL has given up a few sacks this year (45 i think) many can be traced to McNabb not getting the ball out in time due to the knee, limited mobility or the suckass WRs not being able to get open.
The only position I would change there next year is LG.
However, once Tra and Runyan leave, I would entertain Andrews at LT and Justice at RT. Justice played there in college and maybe he is the guy we saw at USC when put back in his spot? Andrews' health isn't too much of a concern for me simply because his injuries have been ones that were caused by incidents like you talked about; him getting rolled up on. That's how he broke his leg and how his knee got hurt this year.
Yeah, it's just one of those things where I'm thinking that dude's already had a couple of leg/knee injuries and trying to hold up that massive torso on previously busted limbs makes him a little more suseptable to future injury. I wouldn't hate the move at all if they put Andrews at LT, especially if they move MJG to LG. I think it's a sick combo and they should be next to each other regardless of what side of the line they play on. But I think I'd make every possible effort to keep them on the right side before making the switch.
Today's Inactives:
Eagles Inactives
QB Feeley is third QB, FS Dawkins, CB Sheppard, G Young, DT Ramsey, TE Smith, DT Reagor, CB Davis
Fill in the blank....Players who will not be with the club next year:
Kearse
Howard
Smith
_______
_______
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 12:19:26 PM
Today's Inactives:
Eagles Inactives
QB Feeley is third QB, FS Dawkins, CB Sheppard, G Young, DT Ramsey, TE Smith, DT Reagor, CB Davis
Fill in the blank....Players who will not be with the club next year:
Kearse
Howard
Smith
_______
_______
von Oelhoefen
Reagor
James
Young
Mahe
Lewis
I noticed that on Madden 08 they have William James named as William James but on the rare occassion he gets an interception/defends a pass/makes a tackle, Al Micheals still calls him William Peterson.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 12:19:26 PM
Fill in the blank....Players who will not be with the club next year:
Howard
I still think Howard's here next year as a DT. He hasn't done bad in a DT rotation and cutting him and signing another DT who sucks worse would just eat cap space.
A guy whose come around quite a bit but gone unnoticed is Hanson. Don't get me wrong I still want an upgrade at CB but I feel comfortable with him as the 3rd/4th guy.
I might be in the minority here, but I don't doubt for a second that McNabb is back next year.
There is no way in hell they put Feeley in as starter and Kolb isn't close to ready to be a starting QB in the NFL and they all know that. As do all of us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb as farg.
Everything you say is true, PG. That being said, I don't see McNabb back next year. Which is ominous.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 12:51:23 PM
I might be in the minority here, but I don't doubt for a second that McNabb is back next year.
There is no way in hell they put Feeley in as starter and Kolb isn't close to ready to be a starting QB in the NFL and they all know that. As do all of us. Anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb as farg.
Donovan a year plus after his knee injury is in my opinion a better option than Feely or a young Kolb
Even though MJG did do a lot better, I don't want Andrews moving out to tackle. It's possible he stays a pro bowl player at LT or RT. He's a perennial all-pro at RG. Leave him there.
Reno runs into 3 tacklers, no attempt to juke... get a real returner next year
Quote from: Dillen on December 30, 2007, 01:07:01 PM
Even though MJG did do a lot better, I don't want Andrews moving out to tackle. It's possible he stays a pro bowl player at LT or RT. He's a perennial all-pro at RG. Leave him there.
I'd prefer having Manneans out there at LT, MJG at LG, Jackson, Andrews, and Justice. Herremans played well out there for 2 games before breaking his leg/ankle. Justice wont be against the best if he's out at RT.
And a sack on the first play, genius playcalling. Westbrook gets the second one and gets 10 yards
farg, Runyan is down, thats never good for a guy who manages pain the way he does. Looked like Celek either stepped on his arm when it was down or his leg gave out on him
Edit..Or i could be completely wrong and he got a knee to the head by Celek
But Runyan was hurt on the play. This season's over.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 30, 2007, 01:13:03 PM
But Runyan was hurt on the play. This season's over.
and Justis is in >:D
It is not natural to have NFL football on this early in the morning.
California farging sucks.
Big Brent Celek with the TD
Feeley shouldn't be here next year. I have no problem having McNabb and Kolb backing him up.
If the FO can pick up a WR that is an actual #1, I'd bet McNabb gets back to the Pro-Bowl next year (barring injury).
And I don't mean #1 like TO/Randy Moss #1...just one that is better than the mediocre slop the FO gives him to play with every year.
The Eagels have made an investment in Feely and having three capable QB's (as we've seen in the past) is a good thing.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 30, 2007, 01:28:43 PM
It is not natural to have NFL football on this early in the morning.
California farging sucks.
At least you don't have to run any errands.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 01:41:09 PM
Feeley shouldn't be here next year. I have no problem having McNabb and Kolb backing him up.
If the FO can pick up a WR that is an actual #1, I'd bet McNabb gets back to the Pro-Bowl next year (barring injury).
And I don't mean #1 like TO/Randy Moss #1...just one that is better than the mediocre slop the FO gives him to play with every year.
I agree. Other than this year, McNabb plays at an MVP level until he gets hurt.
bad decision by McNabb - eat the ball, throw it away...........
That's one of the very few truly dumb passes I've ever seen McNabb throw.....especially in the redzone.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 01:41:09 PM
Feeley shouldn't be here next year. I have no problem having McNabb and Kolb backing him up.
If the FO can pick up a WR that is an actual #1, I'd bet McNabb gets back to the Pro-Bowl next year (barring injury).
And I don't mean #1 like TO/Randy Moss #1...just one that is better than the mediocre slop the FO gives him to play with every year.
The FO has been a disgrace for years now. Rather than drafting and bringing in top level players in FA they scrape the barrel for past performers and go hogwild on UDFAs every year.
The FO's a joke.
And that's not even counting the crap they resign year after year while letting the good players (most of the time) walk without a care.
that was one of the worst throws ive seen by any QB.
looked almost like a bret favre throw.
lmfao, JR Reed is taking over Hauck's missile title.
what is his status for next year? Is he signed? I like him and think he's going to get better and better each year past his injury.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
The Eagels have made an investment in Feely and having three capable QB's (as we've seen in the past) is a good thing.
what investment? LOL. He's a clipboard holding interception machine who signed what? A 2 year contract?
that was a nasty hit
I think Reed is on a 1 yr deal...he was released earlier this year and wasn't brought back until after the GB game. I don't see a problem with bringing him back though. He's good depth and won't cost anything more than the minimum.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
The Eagels have made an investment in Feely and having three capable QB's (as we've seen in the past) is a good thing.
what investment? LOL. He's a clipboard holding interception machine who signed what? A 2 year contract?
I can't remember the terms....as for J.R. he's playing out his current contract.
That Cheerleader had Snaggle teeth
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 02:08:02 PM
I think Reed is on a 1 yr deal...he was released earlier this year and wasn't brought back until after the GB game. I don't see a problem with bringing him back though. He's good depth and won't cost anything more than the minimum.
Exactly, you could sign him to a 5 yr contract, league min salary and 500K SB and he'd wet the bed.
back to back false starts at home are inexcusable.
during the 2 minute drill is absolutely atrocious.
Kinda sums up the season eh?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 02:15:04 PM
back to back false starts at home are inexcusable.
during the 2 minute drill is absolutely atrocious.
they looked like the taterskins
Great move by Mcnabb to avoid the guy at his feet
I don't care what any of you say - Greg Lewis is a decent 4th WR.
Greg Lewis is gay, thats what i say
i don't know if it's mcnabb, jackson or a combo of both, but they are not identifying buffalo's blitzes and calling for the right protection.
greg lewis is decent but i think he's more than replacable.
bring in a true #1 reciever and lewis doesn't have a spot on this team because curtis, brown and avant are all significantly better.
i'd love to see more avant next year.
Hey, don't forget Baskett. At least the guy blocks well downfield.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
The Eagels have made an investment in Feely and having three capable QB's (as we've seen in the past) is a good thing.
what investment? LOL. He's a clipboard holding interception machine who signed what? A 2 year contract?
I can't remember the terms....as for J.R. he's playing out his current contract.
Feeley is signed through 2010
10-3 halftime
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 30, 2007, 02:28:13 PM
Hey, don't forget Baskett. At least the guy blocks well downfield.
baskett is still a work in progress i think. he hasn't developed as much as i was hoping by now but there are things that he does well.....like his blocking as you said.
i really would like to see him on the field in the red zone.....maybe lined up as a tight end in a couple different packages.
Sav Rocca. LOL
rocca!!!
Rocca with the hit. Been waiting for that all season.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 30, 2007, 02:28:13 PM
Hey, don't forget Baskett. At least the guy blocks well downfield.
baskett is still a work in progress i think. he hasn't developed as much as i was hoping by now but there are things that he does well.....like his blocking as you said.
i really would like to see him on the field in the red zone.....maybe lined up as a tight end in a couple different packages.
Sorry, I'll try to make my sarcasm more obvious next time.
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 30, 2007, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 01:46:31 PM
The Eagels have made an investment in Feely and having three capable QB's (as we've seen in the past) is a good thing.
what investment? LOL. He's a clipboard holding interception machine who signed what? A 2 year contract?
I can't remember the terms....as for J.R. he's playing out his current contract.
Feeley is signed through 2010
10-3 halftime
zzzzzzzzzzzz
At least the Eagles are passing about 80% of the time. Passing=NFL excitement
Defense looks like its playing for a better draft pick right now.
And re: FeelEy's contract....since when does ANY player being signed mean they're really "invested" in that player to a point where they wouldn't drop him?
There is no reason to keep him, unless he was okay to go play as the emergency QB.
What else is Feeley going to do? He's a career backup.
Why do I care what else he does?
He has no reason to be on this team. Kolb should be backing up McNabb as of next year...that way he can get into some games when the Eagles are up big or whatever. He's not going to learn to be a starting QB by being the 3rd guy in line.
It'd be a $1.5M cap hit to get rid of him
Fine by me.
Let him go be a backup somewhere that needs one.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
what investment? LOL. He's a clipboard holding interception machine who signed what? A 2 year contract?
:-D :-D :-D :-D
That.......is a classic.
Post of the year.
That makes it, what, about 16 or so flea flickers this season?
kevin curtis is great at recovering fumbles in the endzone
LMFAO Curtis does it again.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 03:03:24 PM
kevin curtis is great at recovering fumbles in the endzone
He's got mad skillz, yo!
White Lightin' has a horseshoe up his butt.
does that count as a td pass for mcnabb? i'm thinking not. i'm hoping he gets one more to get to 20 on the year.
imagine how fast joselio hanson would be if he didn't have to tote that giant wang around everywhere with him.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 03:08:07 PM
imagine how fast joselio hanson would be if he didn't have to tote that giant wang around everywhere with him.
:-D :-D
You guys are full of 'em today.
I'm not even asking the obvioius.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 30, 2007, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 30, 2007, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 30, 2007, 02:28:13 PM
Hey, don't forget Baskett. At least the guy blocks well downfield.
baskett is still a work in progress i think. he hasn't developed as much as i was hoping by now but there are things that he does well.....like his blocking as you said.
i really would like to see him on the field in the red zone.....maybe lined up as a tight end in a couple different packages.
Sorry, I'll try to make my sarcasm more obvious next time.
Use an asterick.
no way they picked up that 4th down.
Commercial, I thought that was a bullshtein call on Bradley during the first half.
it's a bullshtein call because it's a hoyda rule. but it's still the rule, thus the refs made the right call.
the spot of the ball isn't correct but i still don't think that buffalo got the 1st down. looked to me like he was stuffed a good 6 inches behind the 1st down marker. buffalo challenging.
Nice run by Buck....is he on the team next year?
Akeem Jordan seems like a player. He's always making plays
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 03:26:58 PM
Nice run by Buck....is he on the team next year?
i sure as hell hope so. he's become one of my favorite players because he just keeps showing up week after week and produces big time when he gets the ball.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 30, 2007, 03:27:19 PM
Akeem Jordan seems like a player. He's always making plays
i saw this youngin in lehigh and made him my pup. boy is a balla, plain and simple
[igy]akeem jordan made more plays today than gocong did all year[/igy]
8 mins left. Still no Kolb
This game must be to help McNabb get on with another team next year. Seriously, 35 pass plays to only 14 run plays?
The least they can do, if they're going to keep throwing the ball like this, if put Kolb in to get him some game experience. Really he should have played the whole game.
Is Westbrook hurt or did they just bench him?
Quote from: TexasEagle on December 30, 2007, 03:44:37 PM
The least they can do, if they're going to keep throwing the ball like this, if put Kolb in to get him some game experience. Really he should have played the whole game.
Agreed.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 30, 2007, 03:45:32 PM
Is Westbrook hurt or did they just bench him?
Why play him? Let him rest.
i'm thinking they just took westy out to keep him from getting hurt. not that reid is calling any run plays anyway..........
Bradley is going to be a good player.
If they can get a first down here, maybe they can get Kolb some experience taking a knee.
kolb should already have plenty of experience taking a knee. actually, he should be a pro at taking 2 knees as a sign of gratitude for reid drafting him in the 2nd farging round.
Watching other teams they have team captains and they have a C on their uniforms. Do the Eagles not do this?
i'm guessing that reid or someone from the coaching staff instructed rocca to punt that ball out of the endzone.
game over....17-9
8-8 season
#18 or #19 for a draft pick
8 and 8 is great!
What a farging boring season.
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 04:01:41 PM
Watching other teams they have team captains and they have a C on their uniforms. Do the Eagles not do this?
The Eagles select captains on a weekly basis. Only teams that select season-long captains have the patch.
Painfully - it's all over ...what a boring game (somehow fitting)
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 30, 2007, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on December 30, 2007, 04:01:41 PM
Watching other teams they have team captains and they have a C on their uniforms. Do the Eagles not do this?
The Eagles select captains on a weekly basis. Only teams that select season-long captains have the patch.
ahhh that makes sense. Thanks.
Abiamiri showed me something today
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 30, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Abiamiri showed me something today
Call the police. Only priests should get away with something like that.
greg lewis made some plays today.
pats are lucky they don't have to face him again.
First game all season I haven't watched. My only interest is how the young guys on defense looked. Bradley, Gocong, Jordan, Abiamiri, Gaither... anything good bad other?
All of them played fairly well. Jordan prolly had the bestest game ever played.
Gold Standard :yay I apologize.. I will never see a SB unless theres an executive plane crash :boo :boo :boo
The promising thing is they played well enough to win the last 6 games, but only came away with a 3-3 record out of it. Throw in a true #1 WR, or create some more turn overs, or run the ball more...and they're 4-2 or 5-1 and in the playoffs.
Not to mention the stupid plays that cost them games earlier in the season.
All the young LB's look promising....Gaither, Bradley, Gocong, Jordan...How much better would this defense have been over the last few years if Trotter wasn't playing between Dhani farging Jones and Mark Sim/Matt Mccoy/whoever else. When he still had something left in the tank, that is.
Excellent job by CBS telling us why Westbrook wasn't out there at all.
Buck was great running into the backs of OL.
Justice still plays like a swinging gate.
shtein ass season.
So who is ready to see an OL drafted #1?!?!?!?!
it all starts up front!
Quote from: rjs246 on December 30, 2007, 04:11:16 PM
First game all season I haven't watched. My only interest is how the young guys on defense looked. Bradley, Gocong, Jordan, Abiamiri, Gaither... anything good bad other?
They all did pretty good.
I'm not 100% sure who the blitzer was, I think it was Gaither, who went up the middle after Edwards who scrambled and and was forced to dump it off to the RB who was tackled by Bradley for a loss of 5.
Abiamiri came close to a couple sacks on rollouts. He moved a lot better than I thought he did. The defense came so close to a sack so many times, they could have had 5 or 6.
But instead they had zero... troubling.
^^^^
exactly
i was essentially watching gocong and bradley on pretty much every play today....i really do like the way bradley moves...he has to be terrible to not beat out gocong in camp next year...i think the team knows this too cause he played much more than gocong and in fact there were numerous instances where they went with jordan over gocong...they even had some strange two linebacker sets with just gaither and bradley out there
omar is what he is...a solid guy and a good story for a low round pick and not much more...again any one of these guys may be acceptable if they are surrounded by a stud...but as a collective unit...no good
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2007, 06:11:23 PM
^^^^
exactly
i was essentially watching gocong and bradley on pretty much every play today....i really do like the way bradley moves...he has to be terrible to not beat out gocong in camp next year...i think the team knows this too cause he played much more than gocong and in fact there were numerous instances where they went with jordan over gocong...they even had some strange two linebacker sets with just gaither and bradley out there
omar is what he is...a solid guy and a good story for a low round pick and not much more...again any one of these guys may be acceptable if they are surrounded by a stud...but as a collective unit...no good
Those are called nickel packages, IGY. Watch a little closer and you might find the incredibly strange occurrence of only ONE LB on the field. I think that's called a Dime.
Jordan looked good today, but after the failed Keith Adams experiment I'll save judgment until he proves more. Let him stay on ST for the time being.
Spikes/Gaither/Gocong/Bradley/Jordan, for the first time in a while it looks like we know what LB's will be making the team next year.
it wasnt nickel dope...there were first down sets they did it on numerous times...again try watching the games...i dont wanna get to crazy but maybe when youy get older you can actually go to one
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 30, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Abiamiri showed me something today
that he's slow as shtein?
ha
Haha I think I've been to plenty of football games over my life, and certainly a few Eagles games. Sorry I don't have money enough to afford 65 dollar tickets whenever I please.
Yes, they were nickel packages, I was watching the game. And I hate to trust commentators but if that douche that called the game did anything right today he was letting people know every play who was subbin in for who and what formation it was. Apparently a lot of blind people watched the game today who couldn't just look at the screen for themselves.
But, I'm sorry, I was unaware that teams don't run 3 WR sets/defenses don't ever use nickel on first down. I really hope to see that elusive dime package one day :o
All the young LB's were makin plays and making mistakes today, stop picking on Gocong cause you've trained yourself to hate him. And I think Gaither is a lot more solid then you give him credit for.
BTW-If you're referring to the 5-2 look the run every once in a while, every LB has seen play in that formation-including the horrible Gocong. I don't blame them for putting in the rook's to get a look at them. As of right now, it doesn't "show" or "mean" anything.
Abiamiri looked like a stronger, blacker Mike Mamula. Lots of hurries, no sacks. I think he'd make a good 4th DE in a rotation with Cole/draft pick/Thomas/Abiamiri.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 30, 2007, 07:01:53 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 30, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Abiamiri showed me something today
that he's slow as shtein?
He's not a speed rusher but he's physical and hurried the QB.
If he can be an anchor on the end then there's a place for him on the team. Just not as a starter or pass rusher.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2007, 04:45:12 PM
Justice still plays like a swinging gate.
So who is ready to see an OL drafted #1?!?!?!?!
Actually, considering how Justice has played, they need another OT desperately.
Then again, maybe he'll pull a Bunkley on us and completely turn it around next year.
bunkley didnt play and suck last year...he just didnt play...justice looks completely incompetant when hes out there...going into the offseason of 07 i wasnt nearly as worried about bunkley as i am about justice going into 08...its not even close
Frankly, I think it's fairly safe to write off Justice as a backup. Maybe he's the type of guy who can step up if he's relied upon week to week, but he obviously doesn't have the mentality to properly prepare for games that he begins as a backup.
That probably is part of the reason he slipped into the 2nd round.
Oh, and my hopes aren't too high for him as a starter either.
My question is this. Why do they have him playing left tackle when he was a right tackle in college? I know that he was a blind-side tackle because Leinart was a lefty, but come on, let the dude back up Runyan instead of putting him at the most important position on the OL.
he did fill in for runyan yesterday at RT...he was at LT in the giant game cause it was tra who was hurt
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 31, 2007, 09:51:14 AM
he did fill in for runyan yesterday at RT...he was at LT in the giant game cause it was tra who was hurt
Exactly. He was horrific at LT and not much better at RT.
Ah, didn't realize that. God, it's even worse than I thought.
anyone know how hurt runyan was
specifically if his streak would have ended had their been a game this week
Recovery from concussions are a bitch to forecast, IGY. Knowing the way Runyan is if there was anything on the line he would have been back the next week. Just spitballing, though, because I haven't heard anything...
Word from the training room at NovaCare is that Runyan's femoral artery is still intact. Good news.
While I know many of you didn't watch yesterday, anyone who did catch the announcers saying what a great draft pick Reno Mahe was? Classic.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 11:37:25 AM
While I know many of you didn't watch yesterday, anyone who did catch the announcers saying what a great draft pick Reno Mahe was? Classic.
no but i heard them mention he led the league in punt return yds in 05.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 31, 2007, 11:51:22 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 11:37:25 AM
While I know many of you didn't watch yesterday, anyone who did catch the announcers saying what a great draft pick Reno Mahe was? Classic.
no but i heard them mention he led the league in punt return yds in 05.
I nearly forgot that stat. If anyone in the future asks how Devin Hester changed the game of football, that stat might be the single most powerful argument.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 11:37:25 AM
While I know many of you didn't watch yesterday, anyone who did catch the announcers saying what a great draft pick Reno Mahe was? Classic.
The announcers were truly awful. I was almost to the point of hoping for some scintillating Tony Siragusa sideline analysis. The obsession with informing the audience on every play what personnel packages were on the field were stellar, along with comments about a certain guy being a "high draft pick", because he was picked in the first half of the draft or so. Idiots.
Some of their particularly inciteful analysis:
Westbrook touches the ball far too much, at 38% of the offense.
All you have to do is stop Westbrook to stop the Eagles!
BTW, I thought it was funny that the Bills had Aaron Schobel covering him on a play... but even funnier that the coverage was actually pretty good and McNabb put perfect touch on the ball. Hahahaha. Suckers.
McNabb had a lot of great throws yesterday, actually. His confidence is definitely back. Unfortunately, that also led to that red zone INT.
Yeah, agreed. He dropped a couple passes right onto receivers over DBs yesterday which was sweet. He needs to either eat the sack or throw it away on that pick though. Still had a really good TD-INT ratio this season, albeit too many sacks (mostly because of zesty receivers).
Honestly, if McNabb could cut down on the 6-8 second sacks that he takes the improvement to the offense would be noticeable. That one thing, throwing the ball away when there just isn't anything there, would be huge.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 31, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
Honestly, if McNabb could cut down on the 6-8 second sacks that he takes the improvement to the offense would be noticeable. That one thing, throwing the ball away when there just isn't anything there, would be huge.
or just run after 3 seconds. no one is open...take off.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 31, 2007, 09:07:22 AM
Frankly, I think it's fairly safe to write off Justice as a backup. Maybe he's the type of guy who can step up if he's relied upon week to week, but he obviously doesn't have the mentality to properly prepare for games that he begins as a backup.
That probably is part of the reason he slipped into the 2nd round.
Oh, and my hopes aren't too high for him as a starter either.
Dook just needs a hooker.
SunMon, as Winston's *official* sponsor should foot the bill for one of Kensington's finest to let Seven Fo ATM her.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 31, 2007, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 31, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
Honestly, if McNabb could cut down on the 6-8 second sacks that he takes the improvement to the offense would be noticeable. That one thing, throwing the ball away when there just isn't anything there, would be huge.
or just run after 3 seconds. no one is open...take off.
This is the thing...many times he's got a man in his face at the top of his drop. Ever notice how he has to make somebody miss on far too many plays? Anytime Westy isn't in there teams run stunts or twists right up the middle with either the d-line or lb's respectively. And please...please AR and Morning please give the man a "hot" look reciever. If you get a chance re-watch a game or two. There is never a "hot" reciever. McNabb is getting blitzed and these guys don't even turn around until they are fifteen yards down field.
Quote from: Displaced on January 01, 2008, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on December 31, 2007, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on December 31, 2007, 01:24:49 PM
Honestly, if McNabb could cut down on the 6-8 second sacks that he takes the improvement to the offense would be noticeable. That one thing, throwing the ball away when there just isn't anything there, would be huge.
or just run after 3 seconds. no one is open...take off.
This is the thing...many times he's got a man in his face at the top of his drop. Ever notice how he has to make somebody miss on far too many plays? Anytime Westy isn't in there teams run stunts or twists right up the middle with either the d-line or lb's respectively. And please...please AR and Morning please give the man a "hot" look reciever. If you get a chance re-watch a game or two. There is never a "hot" reciever. McNabb is getting blitzed and these guys don't even turn around until they are fifteen yards down field.
he isnt fast enough anymore to run outside of the pocket and then turn up field, unless its completely vacated. teams know if he takes off it will be up the middle and i guess they game plan for that.
i do remember one good throw where a blitzer came from the corner untouched, he side stepped him, and then delivered a nice pass to greg lewis. but the key i think was that the blitz was from the corner...if its up the middle it really leaves him no choice.
but mainly i meant there are at least 3-5 plays a game where he has good time in the pocket...no one is open and when he finally decides to run or do something its too late. in those situations he needs to just take off after a few seconds. even if he gains just 1 yd its better than a sack/risk of injury.
He really doesn't need his old speed. He just needs his knee to be healthy enough to be able to be shifty in the pocket and avoid the rush and slide out to complete the ball down the field. We saw that towards the end of the season, so that is encouraging.
His propensity to not throw the ball away and live to face another down with 10 yards to go is maddening though. I understand trying to make plays and all, but sometimes its best to just let it go.
Having WRs who can get open regularly will help though.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 01, 2008, 03:17:33 PM
His propensity to not throw the ball away and live to face another down with 10 yards to go is maddening though. I understand trying to make plays and all, but sometimes its best to just let it go.
I gotta say... this is the thing he does that pisses me off to no end. I completely understand he gets flushed toward the sidelines and he's looking downfield to make a play, but for the life of me, I can't understand why he steps out of bounds for a sack when he sees nothing there instead of simply throwing the ball away.
Dammit... my throat gets sore after screaming "THROW IT AWAAAAY!!" everytime I see him running toward the sidelines.