A place to bitch and commiserate, without iceholes trying to lecture you or give you their stinking advice.
Enjoy.
It really pisses me off when people complain about something and then when I throw in my 2 cents they complain about that too. bastiches.
I'm on the train this morning and there's a dude about 20 feet from me clipping his goddamned fingernails. Click. Click.
farg, MAN! DO THAT shtein AT HOME!!
I worked 18 hours yesterday, including flying back home from Denver and getting home at midnight. I took today as a vacation day, and I have still received about 5 phone calls and a deadline that "has to get done today".
Just because the sales pukes don't have the sack to tell a customer it has to wait until next week, should cause me to miss a vacation day. Especially when I'm maxed out and need to burn time or lose it.
My cereal was too soggy this morning.
I hate slow, fat women who stand on the escalator & refuse to move their feet until their lard asses are deposited directly on the landing. Take a farging step or two you slugs.
A special farg you to sloppy cows that stop in doorways to talk & block people from getting past.
I may have to work this weekend because a couple of douchebag recruiters in my office can't make their quota.
I hate the douchebags that cant go around a corner in the building without taking the inside corner. I think hallways at work are like a highway, these lazy bastiches cant take an extra 4 steps to the outside and instead run into you or give you a dirty look. :boom
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You know how your job and your wife are different?
You job still sucks after five years.
>:(
Does anyone else find it incredibly distracting when you are driving at night and are behind a vehicle that has a video monitor with a movie or something playing?
especially porn :=)
I hate drivers who turn slow. Whatever happened to slowing down but continuing to turn in one fluid motion? Now drivers virtually stop, turn their wheels, then crawl into the next lane. I almost rear-ended someone today because they took 3 hours to make a farging turn.
Also, women are bad drivers, awful, all of them. What makes them even worse is when they're on their damn cell phones. Everytime I'm cut off or some ignorant bastich is all over the road it never fails to be a women on a cell phone. I was in a rush to try to make it to my girlfriends house before the start of the second half of the Eagles game when this stupid bitch in front of me was all over the road, then she was in the middle of the regular lane and the turning lane so I couldn't get over to make my turn. I drove alongside of her and her farging soccer mom mini-van and she was on her cell phone, so I popped her the finger. Didn't think about it till after I drove away but there were kids in the van, I didn't feel the least bit guilty because that dumb bitch shouldn't be allowed to drive.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 08, 2006, 02:06:58 PM
I'm on the train this morning and there's a dude about 20 feet from me clipping his goddamned fingernails. Click. Click.
farg, MAN! DO THAT shtein AT HOME!!
There's a motherfarger two cubes away who does the same thing. The silver lining (if any optimism is allowed on this thread) is when he does it, it's an automatic smoke break, and I love me some cigarettes.
I hate how I can never find scotch tape without hairs.
Quote from: hbionic on December 13, 2006, 01:24:47 PM
I hate how I can never find scotch tape without hairs.
I told you to stop carrying it around in your shorts dude. It's not fooling anyone.
I'm just scard to take it off. Last time I did that, my balls were bleeding for a couple of days.
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 13, 2006, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 08, 2006, 02:06:58 PM
I'm on the train this morning and there's a dude about 20 feet from me clipping his goddamned fingernails. Click. Click.
farg, MAN! DO THAT shtein AT HOME!!
There's a motherfarger two cubes away who does the same thing. The silver lining (if any optimism is allowed on this thread) is when he does it, it's an automatic smoke break, and I love me some cigarettes.
The guy next to me does that. And he sucks his teeth after he eats something. And sometimes he flosses. Dude does everything loud. I'm thankful for my iPod.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 13, 2006, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 13, 2006, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 08, 2006, 02:06:58 PM
I'm on the train this morning and there's a dude about 20 feet from me clipping his goddamned fingernails. Click. Click.
farg, MAN! DO THAT shtein AT HOME!!
There's a motherfarger two cubes away who does the same thing. The silver lining (if any optimism is allowed on this thread) is when he does it, it's an automatic smoke break, and I love me some cigarettes.
The guy next to me does that. And he sucks his teeth after he eats something. And sometimes he flosses. Dude does everything loud. I'm thankful for my iPod.
You don't even have to listen to it at a reasonable volume.
Has anyone else noticed that over the past several years pedestrians and cyclists got together and decided that they own the road? I was driving to work yesterday morning and two old ladies were walking half out in the street against traffic. Now I understand that when you are walking on roads you are supposed to go against traffic but these wrinkled old hags didn't so much as think about moving closer to the shoulder. I had to go in the other lane just to pass them. I should have gotten out and showed them the business end of my pimp hand.
I hate Vorp
Quote from: NGM on December 13, 2006, 04:13:26 PM
Has anyone else noticed that over the past several years pedestrians and cyclists got together and decided that they own the road? I was driving to work yesterday morning and two old ladies were walking half out in the street against traffic. Now I understand that when you are walking on roads you are supposed to go against traffic but these wrinkled old hags didn't so much as think about moving closer to the shoulder. I had to go in the other lane just to pass them. I should have gotten out and showed them the business end of my pimp hand.
As I left for work this morning - in the rain - there was a guy taking his walk through the development. Normally I don't care about that stuff, but this guy was dressed in all-dark clothing, and he was walking in the street. Which is really strange considering that we have sidewalks. I think that the guy wanted to get hit.
I have been helping a friend out in the evenings working at his shope. there is a lottery machine in the place. first off, people who play the lottery daily are all ignorant low lifes. a lady walks in and is at the money machine for scratch offs. bitch is on her hands free phone talking at the top of her lungs, bitching. i hate people who use them in publc. i think its smart to use it when your driving, but if you can't hold a phone to your head and talk when walking around then you shouldn't have a phone. not only is it rude, but its freaky. they catch you off guard for a split second before you realize its not you who they are talking to. i just feel like crushing that little ear device into their ears with my knee.
i've decided i need to cop an butter joint, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Quote from: T_Section224 on December 13, 2006, 05:14:43 PM
i've decided i need to cop an butter joint, can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Same idiot was walking in the neighborhood this morning. In the fog. The voices in my head tell me to turn the car toward him...
Farging people in the office are being loud as hell today. Can't they tell I'm trying to not work?
Why do people put counters on their web pages? It was an interesting thing 10 years ago...but now I don't care that I was the 900th visitor to a lame-ass site.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 14, 2006, 08:35:57 AM
Same idiot was walking in the neighborhood this morning. In the fog. The voices in my head tell me to turn the car toward him...
Farging people in the office are being loud as hell today. Can't they tell I'm trying to not work?
Please kill him. Succeed where I am a coward.
people who dont wave thank you when you let them go in front of you in heavy traffic and instead act like they made some kind of power move to sqeeze in
Or people who dont acknowlege you when you stop pace and hold a door open for them.
people who write farging checks at the grocery store.
Quote from: phattymatty on December 14, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
people who write farging checks at the grocery store.
Holy Lord yes. I saw someone writing a check for wine and beer at the "Total Wine" store last week too.
Ridiculous.
i write checks at the grocery store all the time, just to annoy people. in fact, i know i could be filling in the check while they ring up my shtein, but i don't.
Freeloaders suck:
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i also despise people (and this includes friends of mine) who take large bar or restaurant tabs and itemize them to find out EXACTLY what each person owes....take the total and divide it by the number of heads you dope...if money means that much to you perhaps you shouldnt be wasting it on beer and eating out
Our finance director just issued an email to about 40 people directing them to stop placing sales and purchase orders in units of measure other than cases, because it causes the inventory manager the trouble of making conversions between units/cases.
The request is stupid for two reasons:
a.) there are well known, valid business reasons for using cases here and units there depending on the situation; reasons so common and legit that it's amazing the finance director could be ignorant to them
and
b.) the challenge (such as it is) of converting 12 units = 1 case is fundamental to the duties of an inventory manager; complaining that he has to make conversions is like a bank teller complaining that customers sometimes make cash depostis with different value notes, and they don't like adding 1s and 5s and 20s..
I responded (to all) with something less than perfect corporate decorum explaining as much, and yet I still want to smash his face in.
Dio do you work at a wine distributor?
Supplier, not distributor.
Well when you make the move to Baltimore drop a case off in Elkton MD :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
i also despise people (and this includes friends of mine) who take large bar or restaurant tabs and itemize them to find out EXACTLY what each person owes....take the total and divide it by the number of heads you dope...if money means that much to you perhaps you shouldnt be wasting it on beer and eating out
Yeah really. If you can't work on the barter system with your friends, you shouldn't have friends. For example if one person pays less than their overall quantity buy a round at the next joint or the next time you are out.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 14, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
i also despise people (and this includes friends of mine) who take large bar or restaurant tabs and itemize them to find out EXACTLY what each person owes....take the total and divide it by the number of heads you dope...if money means that much to you perhaps you shouldnt be wasting it on beer and eating out
I could not agree more. This annoys me to no end. I do't let it happen these dyas. I just shout them down, and if they persist just tell them that pay whatever they want and I'll cover the difference, thereby shaming them.
Also, We all know that big bar/restuarant bills can get out of control and some people can't afford that shtein.
If you are at a restuarant and come late and just get drinks, then you can get a separate check/throw 20 bucks. Once you have some food, even if it's a farging green salad, you are in for the total.
Quote from: SunMo on December 14, 2006, 11:28:10 AM
i write checks at the grocery store all the time, just to annoy people. in fact, i know i could be filling in the check while they ring up my shtein, but i don't.
When was a young, struggling parent, I would routinely write checks at the grocery store. A day or two before my paycheck was in the bank to cover it. And I would write the check for more than the order, so I'd have some pocket money. I lived on the float system for several years. Checks probably clear much faster now, so it's not as easy to take advantage of the merchant's sloth.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 14, 2006, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: SunMo on December 14, 2006, 11:28:10 AM
i write checks at the grocery store all the time, just to annoy people. in fact, i know i could be filling in the check while they ring up my shtein, but i don't.
When was a young, struggling parent, I would routinely write checks at the grocery store. A day or two before my paycheck was in the bank to cover it. And I would write the check for more than the order, so I'd have some pocket money. I lived on the float system for several years. Checks probably clear much faster now, so it's not as easy to take advantage of the merchant's sloth.
I've written a check at the grocery store exactly 1 time in the last 6 years. The one time I did it was about a year ago and it was like 2 days after payday. I had left my check card on my desk at home (probably after ordering a farg doll online or something) so I have to write a check. I had forgotten to transfer money from my savings to my checking account on payday so I only had a few bucks left in checking. When the cashier ran my check she told me it was declined.
I don't know if all businesses have this high speed method of rubber check detection but I can tell you that the farging Food Lion is on top of this shtein.
What kind of doll? I need to get Phanatic something for Christmas.
I believe it was the hbionic Chug-o-matic 3000 with deep throat action and kung fu grip. They said it was the most life like sex doll ever created. And they were right. Unfortunately it was so real it smelled Mexican, immediately went on welfare and invited 20 of it's closest relatives to move in.
On the plus side though, my lawn has never looked greener.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:20:20 PM
I don't know if all businesses have this high speed method of rubber check detection but I can tell you that the farging Food Lion is on top of this shtein.
Yeah, it's pretty common these days. My check floating days were about 20 years ago, and technology has caught up with me. Fortunately so has my paycheck.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on December 14, 2006, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 14, 2006, 04:20:20 PM
I don't know if all businesses have this high speed method of rubber check detection but I can tell you that the farging Food Lion is on top of this shtein.
Yeah, it's pretty common these days. My check floating days were about 20 years ago, and technology has caught up with me. Fortunately so has my paycheck.
I know what ya mean. It's been quite a few years now since I've lived paycheck to paycheck. If I wouldn't have forgot my check card at home I wouldn't even have known that they can process checks that quickly. My card would have been declined and I probably would have just pulled cash out of the ATM instead.
Coincidentally enough, those days of living paycheck to paycheck ended around the same time I booted my wife out and regained control of my checkbook. Odd, isn't it?
Interesting. When most guys boot their wives (or the reverse), they tend to undergo a bankaccount-ectomy. How did you avoid that?
When we were together she was buying herself stuff all the time and spending money foolishly. After we split up and she no longer had access to my paycheck or bank accounts I was able to build up some savings relatively quickly.
Sarge, we received the H.C. 1000 & 2000 back at the warehouse...everything was intact except their dicks were chewed off. We'll be happy to prorate that...but we're not going to cover your orthodontist bill.
Who the hell has time to write out 20-30 checks a month anymore?
I write like two checks a month. One goes to my kid's school (they don't have autopay set up) and the other goes to pay my water bill (again - the city doesn't have computerized accounts receivable yet, go figure). Other than that I pay everything with billpay on the computer or have it drawn automatically.
I just hate Cowboys fans. Every single one of them.
This is the bitching thread. You're looking for the hate thread.
Yes, there is a difference.
No, I'm bitching about how much I hate Cowboy fans.
There's a fly in my living room and it keeps buzzing around my head and tries to land on my eye. What's the deal with that? Do I look like a starving kid in Africa?
Well, you certainly have that bloated stomach part of it down.
Yeah, but it's full of alcohol and taco bell. Not twigs and tumbleweed.
who else is sickened by the attention going to these popcicles on mt hood....why is this getting so much attention...these cats....experienced mountaineers made a conscious decision to undertake a dangerous climb...they knew the risks and chose to go anyway...sucks to be them...now shut up about it
and its not just the cable and tv magazine folks who were mostly responsible for the natalie holloway crap.....its been all over NPR every day too....individual tragedies of people who arent famous are not national news.....
I could to into a rant about the ridiculousness of round-the-clock news (which is the primary reason stories such as igy's get so much play), but then I'd miss the story about Laura Bush's skin cancer or Brittany Spears' latest boob job.
Modern media sucks.
I'm bitching about the phrase "Katrina victims." Look...they are not victims of a storm. They are victims of a completely failed society and government, from root to fruit, and (a small portion of) the blame for their plight does not spare the victims themselves---it's not like they were doing a damn thing about the government failing them year in and year out.
Katrina was just a storm. The victims suffer from the so-called civilization into which they were born and helped create.
thanks for reading.
I was at Target earlier returning something and I was next in line...when this bitch from behind me decides to step to the side of the customer being helped at the counter. In my head I was like, 'This farging bitch thinks she's going to cut'...but I gave her the benefit of the doubt...thinking she had a 'quick' question. But I looked at her shtein and she had items and a receipt. So, I'm starting to boil thinking of the scene I'm going to make....as time goes by....all three of the register people are being slow...and the line behind me went from no one to 10 in a matter of 2 minutes......fortunately for that bitch old lady....the counter to my left opened up. I looked over at her, gave her a glance and she looked back. She knew. Bitch.
I was at blockbuster waiting in line and the blond bimbo customer in front of me was debating with the clerk (only one person working in the entire store) if the Superman movie in the new release section was the New or OLD superman. holy farg.
Sounds like my kind of girl. You didn't happen to get her # did ya?
I think he bent her over the counter and gave her the Krypton special.
I was in Dicks Sporting Goods yesterday because I had a $10 coupon and they had a really good sale on Eagles sweatshirts. To use the coupon, you had to have one of their "Score Cards". The bitch in front of me also has this coupon, but gets into an arguement with the cashier dude because she doesn't have her card with her. Cashier dude is friendly and nice, and repeatedly tells her she can't use the coupon without the Score Card, but if she brings back her receipt they'll credit her the $10 back.
Of course, the bitch wants to talk to a manager, while people in the next line over pay for their shtein and leave while I am standing there in total disbelief. So finally the manager comes over and tells the bitch the exact same thing the cashier dude already told her. Bitch gives up and pays for her shtein. Before she leaves the register I hand the cashier my Score Card and coupon and he says loud enough for the bitch to hear, "Thank you for presenting your Score Card with your coupon...some people just don't get it."
Ha!
We have a cafeteria at my work. I was waiting in line for the ice machine to fill my cup behind this woman who was singing gospel as loud as she could. Finally when shes moving on out of my way, this crazy looking lady flies in front of me and gets ice i just stood there looking down at her and when she turned aroudn gave her the old "THANKS for Waiting" I really wanted to punch her in the cvnt
I went to Target yesterday for a few last minute Christmas presents and stuff and decided to pay off the wife's credit card while I was there. A woman got into a heated argument with the poor clerk behind the counter over something concerning a cash refund. She paid by credit card and wanted a cash refund instead. They went back and forth for like five minutes before the bitch gave in and took the credit card refund.
The total amount refunded? $5
:boom
Further proof that human beings are a highly overrated species.
Regardless of the amount of the refund, that dumb bitch should know that you don't get cash back on a return when the orignal purchase was made by credit card.
i was in a jewelery store yesterday. and by no less than 4 clerks, i was asked to buy an extended warranty. an extended warranty!?
i asked what that covers. they said if it breaks. so i asked "should i expect your stuff to break that easily? maybe i should go to a store that wont break so easily?"
i did not get the warranty.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2006, 10:31:08 AM
Regardless of the amount of the refund, that dumb bitch should know that you don't get cash back on a return when the orignal purchase was made by credit card.
The weird thing is that several times I've had to return things to Wal-Mart in the past year, and I always get a cash refund, even though I always pay by debit card. Heck, I don't even care where the refund goes - they don't even ask, just give you the cash.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 20, 2006, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2006, 10:31:08 AM
Regardless of the amount of the refund, that dumb bitch should know that you don't get cash back on a return when the orignal purchase was made by credit card.
The weird thing is that several times I've had to return things to Wal-Mart in the past year, and I always get a cash refund, even though I always pay by debit card. Heck, I don't even care where the refund goes - they don't even ask, just give you the cash.
When you use your debit card, do you run the transaction as a debit or credit? When I use my check card I always select credit, so if I have to return something I never get cash back. If the purchase was made as a debit then maybe that's why you get the cash back instead. ???
Who makes a special trip back to a store to return a five-dollar item? The bitch who made the return probably spent more than $5 in gas just getting there.
My point is, people are retards and what this planet could use is a good, old-fashioned pandemic to cleanse the global gene pool.
Yeah, but it would have to be a pandemic that only effects stupid people to be effective.
The guys posting on an internet message board definitely have the best chance of surviving something that threatens the human race.
Definitely.
Quote from: Father Demon on December 20, 2006, 04:55:53 PM
Yeah, but it would have to be a pandemic that only effects stupid people to be effective.
Stupid people wouldn't get the vaccine. The end.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2006, 04:21:17 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on December 20, 2006, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 20, 2006, 10:31:08 AM
Regardless of the amount of the refund, that dumb bitch should know that you don't get cash back on a return when the orignal purchase was made by credit card.
The weird thing is that several times I've had to return things to Wal-Mart in the past year, and I always get a cash refund, even though I always pay by debit card. Heck, I don't even care where the refund goes - they don't even ask, just give you the cash.
When you use your debit card, do you run the transaction as a debit or credit? When I use my check card I always select credit, so if I have to return something I never get cash back. If the purchase was made as a debit then maybe that's why you get the cash back instead. ???
Good point. I do usually use debit.
My old lady, despite initial indications otherwise when we were first together, can't bear loud rock and roll.
WTF am I doing with this person? farg
farg her in very imaginative way. Then dump her.
No disrespect intended.
farg. Bitch can't handle half an hour of loud rock and roll without complaining. I fell for some kind of goddamned church mouse.
Happens to the best of us. When I first started dating my wife, she was a good ol' drinker, just like me. That lasted until about 2 years into the marriage. She's not all anti-alcohol, but she does not quite fit-in with me and my group like she used to.
Quote from: Father Demon on December 20, 2006, 09:30:29 PM
Happens to the best of us. When I first started dating my wife, she was a good ol' drinker, just like me. That lasted until about 2 years into the marriage. She's not all anti-alcohol, but she does not quite fit-in with me and my group like she used to.
Don't you hate it when women suddenly grow up and get all mature on you? ;)
Stoopid women.
Well that's rather redundant Demon.
Two things most of you don't have to worry about:
1. Mowing on Dec. 23.
2. Sweating like a pig while doing it.
:boom
What the hell is with the SUV-sized baby strollers? I see these things on the sidewalks and in the malls. Farging things are four times the size they were when I was a kid. I saw one the other day that was completely enclosed in black fabric. What is it, a hearse? Jesus.
Child worship bro, join the fun.
They pad them now and put them on giant wheels to go everywhere, but in five years they'll happily buy the little shteins a trampoline and a skateboard, and then not watch them.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 23, 2006, 12:47:38 PM
What the hell is with the SUV-sized baby strollers? I see these things on the sidewalks and in the malls. Farging things are four times the size they were when I was a kid. I saw one the other day that was completely enclosed in black fabric. What is it, a hearse? Jesus.
L'il Feva was in a tank for about his first 6-8 months. After that though, we went straight lightweight. It was hell lugging that thing in and out of the truck every time we had to stop somewhere. I feel you on that one.
My thing is... why do people leave their kids in strollers until they're 15? Look dumbass, when you're kid's feet are dragging on the ground and you keep running them over with the front wheels... it's time to make that spoiled mutherfarger get his ass out and walk. And for God's sake, take the farging pacifier out of his mouth. He'll be driving next year.
I'm sick and tired of hearing how hard it is to be a coach in the NFL, or any other sport for that matter. The stress, the long hours..waaaaah.
Bill Parcells and all the rest of the perennial "is it worth it" guys can all eat bullets.
I hate it when unintelligent people don't realize that they are stupid. I know, I know. Everyone thinks that they have something profound to say and there's no convincing people that they are idiots. But I take a great deal of pride in making people feel like iceholes when they can't keep up in a battle of wits. So when I constantly clown someone and they keep coming back with more and more moronic repetative nonsense without simply slinking away like they should, it really gets under my skin.
Also, people who don't tip well. Cheap farging pricks.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 04, 2007, 08:47:31 AMEveryone thinks that they have something profound to say and there's no convincing people that they are idiots.
As evidenced by the huge popularity of blogs and podcasts.
What the hell is with the SUV-sized baby strollers?
way worse than this is bags/briefcases and esepcially backpacks on wheels....the people who use these things are unbelievably lazy rude pieces of shtein and have no care in the world about anyone but themselves...if you dont take public transportation in a big city to work then you probably cant fully appreciate the annoyance of this but i wanna murder these people...how lazy do you have to be to buy a back pack that has wheels??
The stroller thing is annoying but there's a reason for them. Babies and small children today are a lot fatter than they used to be.
It's not that children are any less active. It's just that the garbage we fill them with makes them fat as hell. We used to treat our daughter to a single Happy Meal per week from McDonald's but not any longer. That stuff is nothing but poison.
@ rjs. . . I agree about the tip thing. A friend of mine is a waitress at a local pub and they had the UFC there the other night. She had a table full of metrosexual roid-raging Romes she was waiting on and their tab was like 150 bucks. They left her 10 dollars for about 4 hours work. They ran her ass off too and for just about nothing. Idiots.
i was a waiter a long time ago. i remember that you had to claim 8% of your sales as tips for tax reasons.
so i will guarantee that i will leave 8-10% as a tip. anything else is based on merit and service. i expect a waiter to be upbeat, courtious, and informative on what they are serving. i will tip up to 20% if i feel the service is great.
I go with 20% as a general rule of thumb, unless the server does something ridiculous. Maybe not exactly 20%, because I usually approximate to the closest buck.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 04, 2007, 08:47:50 AM
Also, people who don't tip well. Cheap farging pricks.
This is a problem that needs greater bitching, to be sure. I'll highlight just one point: tipping at the bar. It's 2007. People have been tipping a dollar per drink since like 1972. It's time to up the ante you fargers. Bartenders are pretty goddamned special people, terribly important to our society. If you aren't tipping two bucks per drink, you are insulting some of our most crucial citizens.
Two dollars per beer. If you get a round of drinks, increase the tip to four bucks. Repent!!
how about i run a tab and tip 20% at the end of the night?
If I'm paying per drink, it's a dollar each. If I'm running a tab its 20%. I tip 20% pretty much no matter what. Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant should know that undertipping is only done by scumbags and tightwads.
Decent service always gets 20%+.
Suck-ass service can still get 15% or so, if the issues don't seem to be entirely the waiter's fault.
Bartenders get the shaft if they continually and obviously take longer with my drinks compared to others'.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 04, 2007, 12:03:53 PM
If I'm paying per drink, it's a dollar each. If I'm running a tab its 20%.
Same here. If a bartender wants more tips, then he/she must bring me drinks faster. :evil
Y'all are some cheap bastiches.
My wife and i both worked in the restaurants so we always give 20%plus, now just as FF said if the service sucks because the kitchen was farging up we wont penalize the waiter, but if service just plain sucks. They hopefully get the point that they get minimal tip because they did a minimal job.
As far a beers go, its always a dollar a beer. Many times when we first get to the bar i'll leave 5-10 the first time around just to get an in. I'll go 50cents per beer if i keep having trouble with a bartender getting me drinks quickly when i know i'm being looked at and passed over.
Plus its a little different in NYC Dio than lets say Delaware
Good point.
Maybe $2 is too rich for the sticks. But generally speaking, I think bartenders should be tipped better.
unless its one of my neighborhood spots or i know the bartender im gonna tip minimally because in general bartenders are stylishly dressed young mans
waiters if they are even decent ill pretty much always tip 25%
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2007, 12:35:53 PM
Good point.
Maybe $2 is too rich for the sticks. But generally speaking, I think bartenders should be tipped better.
Feel free to stop by the bar I work at any time. Some nights, especially on nights just before payday I'm lucky to get tips at all.
Its also a whole diff game if your friends w/the bartender, you get free drinks and return the favor when its time to pay the bill
or if youre going back
theres a few bartenders at my local bar that i cant stand but i hook them up cause i know im the one whos gonna pay in the long run
When I was in A.C. last week, I had some free drink coupons to use in Ceasar's. I got my drinks and gave the guy a buck a drink for a tip (once three bucks for two drinks because it was busy, and he made sure that I was served). He was vocal about saying thank you for the tip. I bet most of the skinflints that get those free drinks don't even think to tip.
I never tip bartenders. ;)
It takes just as much time for them to pour your milk as my beer, you cheap bastich.
Like rjs said, Dollar a beer if not, 20% standard for tabs and dinners.
$2 dollars per beer is too much. All they did was pour. Making a drink takes more time/effort. I could pour my own beer if they'd let me. Actually, most times, you could grab a clean or dirty mug, and reach over the counter and pour it myself. If it was a hot bartender chick who flashed her rack at me, then maybe I'd think about $2. But even then...that goes against my principals.
People I can't stand are those that have to 'calculate' 15%. farging cheap bastiches.
Or when you're in a group dinner and the tab comes (and you didn't split the tabs beforehand)...there's always a muther farger putting in EXACTLY what he ordered. farg you!
Also, I can't stand cheap motherfargers who don't buy a round of beers...or are inconsiderate in the fact that someone else just bought you a beer/drink and you don't even offer....the least you can do is keep tabs on his drink and offer to get him the next beer once he's almost done. If you are this person you deserve to get raped by elephants.
Quote from: hbionic on January 04, 2007, 03:36:51 PM$2 dollars per beer is too much. All they did was pour. Making a drink takes more time/effort. I could pour my own beer if they'd let me. Actually, most times, you could grab a clean or dirty mug, and reach over the counter and pour it myself. If it was a hot bartender chick who flashed her rack at me, then maybe I'd think about $2. But even then...that goes against my principals.
besides that, if it's bottled...why would i give a guy $2 for popping a cap off the bottle?
You'd give that because life ain't cheap and bartenders live on tips. Because it's a good idea to be generous to the person feeding you the vital fluid.
And as we've discussed already, because NYC is mad expensive.
bartenders dont work for the money tho...they work because they think it makes them cool and better than you and to get snatchola from drunk girls...try for just five minutes to not be a total a-hole and maybe ill cake you off a little...but until then get me my drinks and get them without calling me chief...man or boss
I wouldn't mind tipping $2 at all...if they didn't charge $10 at the door, just to get in to buy their refreshing libations! :boom
Nothing pisses me off more than cover charges. Cheap mother fargers!
vigy, you be drinking at the wrong joints
chuggie...I NEVER pay a cover. why do you?
Neither do I, which is why my girfriend thinks I'm cheap. I just don't go in. I go to the real(free) places to hang out. I don't like being charged for the privilege of buying a beer at their establishment. There's zesty music anywhere, there's ugly drunk whores everywhere. Am I supposed to be impressed because you've got some horny asian chick flirting with the bald headed thug (aka bounce) and your bar's/club's name is in neon? farg you!
I ban paying cover charges.
Quote from: hbionic on January 04, 2007, 04:02:31 PM. Am I supposed to be impressed because you've got some horny asian chick flirting with the bald headed thug (aka bounce) and your bar's/club's name is in neon? farg you!
Check that, I don't go to clubs.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2007, 03:51:37 PM
And as we've discussed already, because NYC is mad expensive.
Someone deciding to live in NYC is not my problem to deal with. They will take my $1 and like it.
Quote from: Wingspan on January 04, 2007, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2007, 03:51:37 PM
And as we've discussed already, because NYC is mad expensive.
Someone deciding to live in NYC is not my problem to deal with. They will take my $1 and like it.
BOOYAKA!
I really don't care if I get tipped more for mixing drinks or just popping the top off a beer with my handy belt buckle. Just leave a farging tip. farging Marines are notoriously bad tippers. And the closer to payday it gets, the worse the tips are because these farging idiots can't manage their money. So instead of tipping, they use the money to buy more drinks. Yeah, those guys are lucky to get a full shot of booze in their drinks. One of the busiest nights I had was a Saturday before payday (which fell on a Monday). I'd say there were about 40 people in the bar drinking that night and I made about $30 in tips. When I closed the register that night we had done over $1000 in business. Cheap mother fargers.
A lot of times when I'm out at a bar and paying cash, I'll leave a big tip up front when I order my first drink. The bartender will usually give you better service for the rest of the night and if I happen to spend all my cash at least I know the tip's already been covered. And if I'm running a tab on my card I'll still leave a dollar tip on each drink and then if I felt the service was deserving, I'll add a little extra on my final bill.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2007, 03:11:36 PM
It takes just as much time for them to pour your milk as my beer, you cheap bastich.
:-D I honestly think that the only time I've ever been served by a bartender was at my step-nephew's bar mitzvah last November. On that one, all the costs were covered by my brother-in-law, including the tip.
For wait staff, I've actually become a pretty good tipper. Since I'm inherently lazy, I don't bother to get the exact 20 percent. I just round up to the next dollar. Unless the service is just lousy, then they get 15 percent. If the server is rude, then they get 10% and a kick in the tail.
I get something in the mail from T-Mobile that says I'm eligible for a free $199.99 phone with a 1 year service plan, since I've been with them for over 2 years and have not upgraded my phone I figure I'll call, get the plan, then get a free phone with a shteinload of extras. I call, get transferred 3 times till some douchebag finally tells me I'm not on record as having been offered this phone. I ask him why they sent this to me and he says it's a gliche in the system and that if I fax it to him he may be able to help me out, I tell him thanks for wasting my time and I'll be switching phone companies very shortly. End of conversation.
What is the farging deal with people pissing on public toilets? I'm not kidding, every farging airport, restaurant and rest stop that I've tried to take a dump in for the past six months has had piss all over the farging seat. Not the porcelain rim mind you, but the farging seat itself. Is there some sort of white trash code that says you have to put the seat down and piss all over it when you're in a public bathroom? Are you freaks just that bad at actually hitting your target?
Seriously, this is on par with cutting someone off and slamming on the brakes when it comes to common courtesy. It's farging ignorant and I seem to be the last dude on Earth who's pissed off by it.
I quit dropping the kids off in public restrooms a long time ago because of that.
Why do people ask if you just got your haircut? Is it a rhetorical question, or do they really expect an answer? Either way, mind your own farging business.
You're not, I was complaining of the same thing after meetings in a big fancy hotel yesterday. I think the deal is that stillupfront's moms don't want to actually lift the seat, probably because they think it's dirty or something, so they just piss. I also think horseshoe shaped seats (for lack of a better word) encourage this kind of thing, because everyone thinks they're some kind of marksmen. Nevermind spray or back-splash from your steaming stream...people just don't care.
When I piss in a toilet, I do what I do at home. I lift the goddamn seat first.
I never have to lift the seat. I'm that bad ass when it comes to my aim and spray. They don't call me Robin Hood for nothing. :afro
Sometimes you've just got to pinch off a loaf in public. If you're me you have to do it four or five times a week. But I've even seen it at my places of employment over the years. What the farg is wrong with people? Lift the farging seat. Or, even better, if you're that bad at aiming for the toilet bowl, sit down and piss. farging dipshteins.
As effiminate as sitting down and pissing is...its also fun once in a while, a change of pace, similar to using a reverse grip with the left hand once in a while.
I hardly ever take a duce in public and/or public bathrooms...but I know what you mean, you suddenly have to play janitor and clean off the motherfarger....makes you contemplate cutting off your hand to prevent infection of the rest of the body after you leave.
I feel your pain, rjs. I'm on the road a lot doing appraisals and when the urge strikes for me to squeeze out a dump, the first place I go is police stations/city halls. It's amazing how clean they keep public restrooms in those places. It's like people are scared of acting like pigs in them.
Other decent places:
Libraries (not in "bad" sections of town where bums loiter).
Target stores (they must clean the toilets there at least twice an hour).
Places of worship (Catholic Churches are excellent because no one is ever there and they're usually spotless for obvious reasons).
So this happens everywhere? I don't get it. I mean, not only is it disgusting, but it takes a certain amount of "farg everyone else, I'm gonna piss on this seat and make someone else clean it up" attitude to do this. So ignorant.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 11, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
Places of worship (Catholic Churches are excellent because no one is ever there and they're usually spotless for obvious reasons).
Yes, Jesus is the only other mother farger that has as good aim as I do.
Respek!
I'm waiting for one of you fargers to come forward and admit that you do this intentionally.
I took a dump in a port-a-potty on Sunday
i usually clean any public toilet seat i use...with my tonuge. that way, i know what i'm sitting in.
You like sittin on stamps?
When I bitched about this to my old lady, she told me to hover. Hover?! Are you farging kidding me??
Dog Balls?
Quote from: Diomedes on January 11, 2007, 04:49:54 PM
When I bitched about this to my old lady, she told me to hover. Hover?! Are you farging kidding me??
That's an art form that evolution forced the ladies to learn long ago. Men can not be expected to do such things.
Hover is the equivalent of 'get over it' said by many a female. That is in my top 5 list of things I hate.
Anyone who suggests that I hover while blasting my fecal babies clearly has no idea what goes into taking a proper dump.
When I was working at the IRS, I would only take a crap after the bathrooms were cleaned. They get cleaned the same time every night, so I had a consistent pooping schedule with no chance of urine soaking my ass... you know, unless something splashed really hard.
At my job... our GM has his own bathroom and 9 times out of 10, when I have to drop bombs... it's after he's already left for the day... so I just go in there. It's kind of a "pick your poison" because he's a fat farger... but at least he's the only one that uses it and not the whole damn building.
We have a unisex bathroom that I share with three other teachers. It's never a problem there for me. ;D
You can probably imagine what the boys bathroom looks like from time to time.
I remember having "how far away from the urinal can you stand and still make it" contests in elementary school.
Which makes me think, perhaps janitors should be given carte blanche to molest kids all they like.
So a couple of weeks ago, I'm at my Christmas party in which my company got each employee a room at the Sheraton for Friday and Saturday night. This part , and the free booze, was cool. What wasn't cool is some girl with whom I work telling some girl I was working on that I'm a "man-whore." Why the farg would you tell somebody you've never met before that some guy you barely know is a man-whore? Free drinks or not, there's no reason to talk that kind of shtein.
Sounds like a successful cockblocking strategy.
With your company setting you up with booze and a bed like that... who the hell could blame you? Can they make it any easier to farg your co-workers?
Btw... that would get me in trouble. Like "grounds for divorce" trouble. I work with too many fine motherfargers for that.
It wasn't successful, but even if it was a cockblocking strategy, why? She hardly knows me, certainly not well enough to assert such allegations, and she didn't even know the girl at all.
The only conclusion I can come to that makes sense is the girl I work with must really want a black eye.
That's just the man-whore in you talking.
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 22, 2007, 03:13:39 PM
It wasn't successful, but even if it was a cockblocking strategy, why? She hardly knows me, certainly not well enough to assert such allegations, and she didn't even know the girl at all.
The only conclusion I can come to that makes sense is the girl I work with must really want a black eye.
maybe she knows a girl you whored up. and now shes talking shtein cause you hit it and split it with her friend. either way its your own fault if its true. just make sure you keep up with the valtrex treatments.
Quote from: Tomahawk on January 22, 2007, 03:13:39 PM
It wasn't successful, but even if it was a cockblocking strategy, why? She hardly knows me, certainly not well enough to assert such allegations, and she didn't even know the girl at all.
The only conclusion I can come to that makes sense is the girl I work with must really want a black eye.
Stab her.
Here's a can of worms I probably shouldn't open, but I will anyway:
How about mandatory drug tests for a job that has nothing to do with child care, using a gun, driving a truck, national security clearance, etc. WTF is that?? I can cheat to get around it, I can make sure I'm clean well before it's given, etc...but nevermind that. I object on principle. What I do on my own time is none of the company's business.
or you could stop being a druggie.
Individual privacy is no longer a protected right. Hadn't you heard?
Quote from: hunt on January 22, 2007, 03:53:05 PMor you could stop being a druggie.
Exactly the response I expected. So it's okay if I take Prozac or Zoloft, but not if I smoke a bowl? So I should submit to medical testing to get a job? So my privacy is mine only if I want to be a ditch digger?
Hand me a shovel.
Drug laws are absurd. Drug testing is a ridiculous invasion of privacy.
That said, as a businessman, I wouldn't want a drug addict working for me. Too much bullshtein to deal with, thanks.
Just because a person tests positive for drugs in his system doesn't mean he's a drug addict.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 22, 2007, 04:13:17 PMThat said, as a businessman, I wouldn't want a drug addict working for me. Too much bullshtein to deal with, thanks.
Fair enough. Manage your employees. If you find job performance suffering, investigate. If you learn the person is showing up drunk or high, fire them. In other words, do your job as a manager.
Presence of drugs in blood doesn't mean you're a "druggie."
I haven't had a clean system in 5 years at least....I'm making six figures kicking ass in a difficult job. If I'm a druggie, then I'm hella productive...I make straight suckers look like slacking potheads.
druggies have all the answers. :-D they always deflect the issue to alcohol or drugs they don't use.
it's illegal, cheech...deal with it or get a new job.
In other words, surrender my privacy in order to get paid.
No thanks.
or get a new job it is! :yay
ricky williams isn't the only person who values pot smoking more than his job. :-D
When you make what I do, it's not an issue. It's principle. My current job doesn't give a damn, as they shouldn't. The one I just interviewed for tests everyone.
I could submit to it, but the principle is worth more than the money. I didn't get where I am by selling myself out.
Obviously, you can't imagine someone would use an illegal drug and still be productive, upstanding citizen. That's your problem.
Pot's illegal because of propaganda from the 30's. To not smoke because of an antiquated law that shouldn't be on the books is akin to subjugating yourself to any number of ridiculous laws which for reasons contrary to common sense are still on the books.
I was in a position to hire someone, whom we liked, and offered the job. Our company required a drug test. He failed.
We rescinded the offer. And I would do it again. You cannot compare prozac or zoloft, they are perscribed. Pot, X, etc...are illegal in every sense. If the person uses, there's a chance it will be in the building, or there is a chance he would get arrested for having it (and therefore cost the company productivity, and those, among with many other reasons as to why a company will hire someone else who is "clean.")
I don't really consider pot to be a drug anyway. It's an herb and people smoke it. Big farging deal.
Just don't get high on my time and I won't have a problem with it.
Hard drugs (coke, smack, etc.) are a different story. They do affect job performance. Trust me, I speak from personal experience.
Quote from: Wingspan on January 22, 2007, 04:31:46 PM
I was in a position to hire someone, whom we liked, and offered the job. Our company required a drug test. He failed.
We rescinded the offer. And I would do it again. You cannot compare prozac or zoloft, they are perscribed. Pot, X, etc...are illegal in every sense. If the person uses, there's a chance it will be in the building, or there is a chance he would get arrested for having it (and therefore cost the company productivity, and those, among with many other reasons as to why a company will hire someone else who is "clean.")
BTW, in this situation, I have no idea what drug he failed for, that was not disclosed to us from the testing facility.
Quote from: Wingspan on January 22, 2007, 04:31:46 PMIf the person uses, there's a chance it will be in the building, or there is a chance he would get arrested for having it (and therefore cost the company productivity, and those, among with many other reasons as to why a company will hire someone else who is "clean.")
None of which risks are eliminated by a test. You can't remove every risk from the business of employing people. You gonna test for diabetes, and decline those folks because their more expensive? Test for anger management problems? Test for people who speed too much, increasing risk of missing time for court dates? Etc.
It's an invasion of privacy, and a transfer of responsibility from the company to the employee. If you're gonna employ people, you take risks. That's why employees get paid $50 and the company gets $45,000.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2007, 04:41:42 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 22, 2007, 04:31:46 PMIf the person uses, there's a chance it will be in the building, or there is a chance he would get arrested for having it (and therefore cost the company productivity, and those, among with many other reasons as to why a company will hire someone else who is "clean.")
None of which risks are eliminated by a test. You can't remove every risk from the business of employing people. You gonna test for diabetes, and decline those folks because their more expensive? Test for anger management problems? Test for people who speed too much, increasing risk of missing time for court dates? Etc.
You are right, it does not eliminated the risks. But I can gaurantee you that someone who uses drugs are far more likely to get arrested for possessing drugs than a non-user.
You cannot decline employment if a candidate has been convicted of a misdemeanor or minor traffic voilations. You must own up to a felony if you've ever been convicted though. Same with heath issues, employment will not be denied because someone is diabetic. That's just a stupid comparison.
Court dates will come out of already pre determined vacation or sick time. If a person finds themselves in court more than 15 times a year, then there is a bigger issue.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2007, 04:41:42 PM
It's an invasion of privacy, and a transfer of responsibility from the company to the employee. If you're gonna employ people, you take risks. That's why employees get paid $50 and the company gets $45,000.
So you shouldnt be held responisible for your own actions? Illegal actions, at that?
An employer will look to minimize all risks where possible. No empolyer in their right mind would willingly trust any part of their business to someone who is a drug user.
you're comparing doing illegal drugs with diabetes. :-D might be time to cut back, pothead.
A diabetic without his medication is probably going to be more problematic than the guy who smoked a joint on his lunch break.
I don't and never have smoked on the job. I have tried insulin on the job, though...
Quote from: hunt on January 22, 2007, 07:25:29 PM
you're comparing doing illegal drugs with diabetes. :-D might be time to cut back, pothead.
You're giving a lot of creedance to the law. :-D And very little to the right to privacy. Yay freedom.
privacy doesn't mean you're allowed to break the law as long as you're in your own home...if your brain is too fried to understand that employers would rather not hire people who consume illegal, mind altering substances, i don't think there's anything i can post to convince you. :poison
I think people are hilarious that whine about "personal freedoms" and yet would like the Federal government to take even more of our money and distribute it as they see fit, mostly to themselves as it gets tied up in bureaucracy.
Oh yeah... they're called liberal democrats.
if your brain is too fried from television, fast food, and the corporate teat to see that privacy is a civil right that should not be viololated for the sake of risk management and profit protection, then there's nothing I can post to convince you otherwise
I just don't understand why the first step is not reducing the amount of influence government has in our lives. This would include altering/removing laws on drugs that are no more harmful than alcohol or cigarettes and also reducing and simplifying the tax code so we could conceivably have more money to spend on drugs.
I suppose I just don't understand why the standard 2-party system in this country doesn't make more sense. The bottom line should be how much government the country needs. I say less. A lot less.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 09:27:22 AM
if your brain is too fried from television, fast food, and the corporate teat to see that privacy is a civil right that should not be viololated for the sake of risk management and profit protection, then there's nothing I can post to convince you otherwise
Privacy is not mentioned in the constitution at all. nor in any amendments.
You are allowed to turn down a drug test, but if that means you are also eliminating yourself from the position as well. Well, that is your choice and your problem.
Repeat after me: Government is good. We need less of the type of government that limits liberty and more of they kind that makes good roads, pays cops firemen and teacher well, etc.
in the mind of a druggie, pot smoking = liberty :-D
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 09:45:35 AM
Repeat after me: Government is good.
No, it's not. It's inefficient and all-too-powerful. You're delusional if you think you can truly limit the scope of government in your personal life and yet allow them free reign over and use of your income.
Again - your general viewpoint of the government, especially on a national level, makes no sense at all. You think you can make a government as big and rich as possible and it will reward you with nice infrastructure and more heroic firemen and honest policemen. Frankly, it's just hilarious.
The U.S. Government is the biggest fatcat of all the big companies. Bigger than big pharma. Bigger than big oil. And more powerful than all the other ones combined. You see what giving those private behemoths breaks and freedoms does - they build themselves up and give it to the average end user in the rectum as much as possible. The U.S. government is the same, but much worse.
Basically, if you really want to smoke weed and not have it be an issue for employment, embrace the Libertarian viewpoint a little bit. Trust me - the Democrats will never make it easier for you to do drugs.
Quote from: Wingspan on January 23, 2007, 09:42:13 AM
Privacy is not mentioned in the constitution at all. nor in any amendments.
Nor is judicial review.
Quote from: Wingspan on January 23, 2007, 09:42:13 AMYou are allowed to turn down a drug test, but if that means you are also eliminating yourself from the position as well. Well, that is your choice and your problem.
Fair enough. It's a bitch they decide to do that, and that so many people submit to it, but fair enough. Finally...it's also their problem, because a smarter company that doesn't insult prospective employees by proposing to invade their privacy will get a great employee.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 23, 2007, 09:54:23 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 09:45:35 AM
Repeat after me: Government is good.
No, it's not. It's inefficient and all-too-powerful.
I'm working, can't keep this discussion up.
Government is good. It could be improved a lot, but I believe in it like you people believe in corporations and God. Moving on now.
Your assumption about my belief in big business is incorrect as expected.
I only trust big business slightly more than the government, because I can make choices to support or not support them, whereas the government takes my money every day without me having a say in it.
Your vote is your say, FF.
Unfortunately, your choices in terms of voting are two sides of the same bad penny in the GOP & the Democratic Party.
I only trust government slightly more than business, and I think good government has a much greater up-side than good business. It boils down to who do you want to have the power...the government, which is (ostensibly) controlled by the people...or the private sector, which is controlled by an oligarchy of the rich. You know where I stand.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 23, 2007, 10:16:36 AM
Unfortunately, your choices in terms of voting are two sides of the same bad penny in the GOP & the Democratic Party.
*ding*
Bring back the WHIGS
p.s. I'm not a farging democrat. They might as well be George Bush's left hand.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 10:19:07 AM
p.s. I'm not a farging democrat.
Right, you're a socialist/totalitarian/communist.
Social democrat, I think. But sure, if that's how you want to see it, Nazi Money Lover.
Libertarians are right. All of you are wrong.
No one and nothing loves money more than the Federal government.
Can we at least agree that the tax system and the IRS are some of the most ridiculously overblown wastes of resources around and that a simpler system could net the same or more money with less pervasive impact on the American tax payer?
I'm assuming you're going to disagree and write something about the IRS building roads and bridges, but I at least thought I'd take a stab at something.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 23, 2007, 10:27:08 AM
No one and nothing loves money more than the Federal government.
Ha. But yeah, we can agree the tax system is an awful example of government.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 23, 2007, 10:25:13 AM
Libertarians are right. All of you are wrong.
Ha. I'm a Libertarian and I'm usually wrong about everything. Well, other than Jessica, that is.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 23, 2007, 10:30:36 AM... and I'm usually wrong about everything.
At least you got that right, skippy.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 23, 2007, 10:27:08 AM
No one and nothing loves money more than the Federal government.
Ha. But yeah, we can agree the tax system is an awful example of government.
Good. I believe that's one of the deep-seeded roots of the problems with our government.
Considering you and I often find ourselves in agreement, I wouldn't be so quick to agree with me, DIO.
today's topic: mandatory drug tests for welfare recipients
GO!
Great idea. Trace of drugs? No government money for you. Go back to prostituting yourself or holding up liquor stores.
Quote from: hunt on January 24, 2007, 10:45:46 AM
today's topic: mandatory drug tests for welfare recipients
Why not make drug testing mandatory for everyone then? What makes welfare recipients so special that only they should be tested. God knows the rest of us are also using government services and benefiting from public money.
Test everyone.
Quote from: Father Demon on January 24, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
Go back to prostituting yourself or holding up liquor stores.
You're assuming that some don't "double dip" with their illegitimate business and their welfare check anyway.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2007, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: hunt on January 24, 2007, 10:45:46 AM
today's topic: mandatory drug tests for welfare recipients
Why not make drug testing mandatory for everyone then? What makes welfare recipients so special that only they should be tested. God knows the rest of us are also using government services and benefiting from public money.
Test everyone.
they're getting cash handouts for doing nothing so that's what makes them "special".
but i'm okay with testing everyone if you'd rather go that route.
Testing everyone wastes a lot of taxpayer money. No.
Welfare is a mess. Social Security is a mess. Medicare is a mess. The tax system is a mess. If the government actually worked towards real solutions to simplify and streamline those 4 areas, they could put tax dollars to good use and help a lot of people. My problem is that all of the above are run so inefficiently and an all-too-small percentage of dollars actually gets to its intended recipients after it clears the red tape and bureaucracy.
We can't solve any issue by simply raising taxes and throwing money at them. The government needs a real plan, but any of the politicians that actually have quality ideas lose the public attention quickly and can't get elected.
Hey guys, the simple solution is to legalize any drug that is any of the following:
1. As or Less addictive than currently legal drugs.
2. As or Less physically harmful than currently legal drugs.
There, problem solved. Legalize drugs that have been arbitrarily prohibited and test for anything else.
Now shut up.
Plus, even more revenue for the government after they tax it all.
Its very simple Weed = Alcohol, you cant drink at work, same goes for smoking. Tax it, cut down on illegal sales and that will put more resources to go after the harder drugs.
Quote from: hunt on January 24, 2007, 11:09:16 AMbut i'm okay with testing everyone if you'd rather go that route.
if you're gonna test the poor simply because they recieve government aid, then you should also test the middlle class and rich, because they too benefit from government aid. the don't get it by direct cash payments..instead they get it by tax breaks, low interest loans, etc.
so if you want to test them, then you're saying you're willing to test everyone, I wonder...should we also limit all cars to keep from speeding? should we start monitoring all bank accounts for untaxed income/activity. should we put a camera in every street corner to pursue and charge everyone who litters?
it's all the same principle you're supporting..but the reason you support it was made clear from the start: you want it for them, not you. for the poor, not you. for the other guy.
fascist.
hunt's an anarchist, not a fascist, dook.
;)
these monologues are turning into discussions!
These pretzels are making me thirsty!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2007, 12:32:57 PM
Its very simple Weed = Alcohol, you cant drink at work, same goes for smoking. Tax it, cut down on illegal sales and that will put more resources to go after the harder drugs.
THC isn't physically addictive. Alcohol is. Tobacco is.
Weed is far less harmful than either of those legal, and highly taxed, drugs.
I ran two miles this morning and thought I was going to vomit afterwards.
Getting old, fat and out of shape sucks. Can't do anything about the first one so I figued I'd try and do something about the other two.
Brilliant!
Quote from: SunMo on January 24, 2007, 01:18:36 PMthese monologues are turning into discussions!
that's why I originally said I know I'm opening a can of worms, because I knew I couldn't bitch about mandatory drug tests as screening for an office job, without the creeps coming out of the woodwork to call me a druggie and claim the government should be able to test everyone, etc.
Oh well.
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when you admit to doing illegal drugs, you run the risk of being called a druggie.
hunt can't shake his days of being a hall monitor and reporting people for running in the halls.
Quote from: SunMo on January 24, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
hunt can't shake his days of being a hall monitor and reporting people for running in the halls.
i know doing drugs is hip but there's something about harassing pothead freedom fighters that i enjoy.
It isn't about being hip, but you know that. It's about yet another instance of the government being hypocritical and allowing some harmful drugs to be legal while other, less harmful, drugs are arbitrarily illegal. To make things even more fun for everyone, people who recognize this hypocracy are stigmatized.
You know, the truth is that I hardly smoke pot or do any other illegal drugs anymore. But our last two presidents have admitted to doing drugs and the one who currently sits in his second term actually spent time in rehab. It's probably time to let go of the idea that smoking weed is some sort of fringe activity.
I'm just as fond of making fun of hippies (or anyone who believes in anything) as the next guy, but labeling someone a hippy because they smoke pot is an exercise in stupidity.
Now, can we get back to bitching about dickwads who piss on toilet seats.
I only piss on the seat if I know rjs has to take a juicy dump.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 05:52:09 PM
I only piss on the seat if I know rjs has to take a juicy dump.
Well that would be the majority of my day, every day. Thank god I don't live anywhere near you.
I just moved to Brookline. We're still hanging out this weekend at your place, right?
No. And now I'm moving.
I hear Souderton, PA is nice this time of year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 24, 2007, 06:22:55 PM
I hear Souderton, PA is nice this time of year.
Electric bills are a bitch plus people are some wasteful motherfargers there too.
Pass.
I met Yeti at a strip club in Souderton once. We both arrived by driving gas guzzling, atmosphere killing, heat-wave enducing SUV's. Then we went inside and pissed on all the bathroom seats in the mens and womens rooms. On our way out, we left the water running in the sinks, turned on all the lights and flushed the paper towels down the toilets. Then we watched as all the strippers sprayed 28 cans of Aqua Net into their "still stuck in the 80's" girl mullets. On the way out of the bar, we took turns kicking a baby seal.
It was a great day for the environment.
A great day for everything, I would argue. Minus the seat pissing, you farging filthy bastiches.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 24, 2007, 05:50:29 PM
Now, can we get back to bitching about dickwads who piss on toilet seats.
If your too farging stupid to put the seat up, then your gonna' piss on it.
No shtein. What's your point?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 24, 2007, 07:30:11 PM
I met Yeti at a strip club in Souderton once. We both arrived by driving gas guzzling, atmosphere killing, heat-wave enducing SUV's. Then we went inside and pissed on all the bathroom seats in the mens and womens rooms. On our way out, we left the water running in the sinks, turned on all the lights and flushed the paper towels down the toilets. Then we watched as all the strippers sprayed 28 cans of Aqua Net into their "still stuck in the 80's" girl mullets. On the way out of the bar, we took turns kicking a baby seal.
It was a great day for the environment.
post of the day
This from the guy who thought The Aristocrats was childish.
Exactly. If Sarge's post were followed by 30 other posts conveying basically the same idea but just with different bodily functions and further attempts to gross out the reader, it would have cheapened it and made it childish.
As it stands now, it was funny.
Glad you liked it.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 24, 2007, 08:05:07 PM
No shtein. What's your point?
My point is...........I dunno'...........I don't really have one.
........and whoever comes back with "what about the one on the top of your head" can eat shtein and die.
What about the one on top of your head?
Oh snap.
FYI there's a stomach virus making the rounds and I have it. Don't feel too zesty yet but I have a feeling I'm going to get the full effects tomorrow.
Thanks, I really needed that information.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 24, 2007, 09:56:56 PM
Thanks, I really needed that information.
'Random Bitching Monologues'
Im fargin sick. My doctor is from Columbia, she speaks good english but i'm the only caucasian person that goes to her. I might be the only legal citizen too. Everytime i call its a battle just to get the receptionist to understand what im saying. >:(
It's a pity there aren't other primary care doctors from which to choose.
Where i'm at its nearly impossible to get other doctors. I went to my Pediatrician until i was 23, had to get another doc at that point. I called around everywhere i called had a waiting period just to meet the doctors roughly 1-2 months out, and i was sick that day. My pediatrician recommended my now doctor and it was great when she first setup shop, but now its like going to a mexican market.
i don't like the way that Souderton was portrayed in this thread...you're all dead
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 24, 2007, 09:54:23 PM
FYI there's a stomach virus making the rounds and I have it. Don't feel too zesty yet but I have a feeling I'm going to get the full effects tomorrow.
It's going around here, too. Gotta keep taking the vitamins and being damned near OCD with the hand washing.
Why do some guys feel the need to converse while they're standing at a urinal? I feel kind of vulnerable, what with my johnson hanging out and all...so I really don't feel compelled to strike up a discussion with the guy standing next to me.
There are rules about taking a piss at a urinal and talking to a perfect stranger next to you is one of them.
I don't care how your team is doing nor do I care where you're from. The only thing I'm concerned with is not pissing on my hands or on my shoes at that moment. In other words, shut it.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on January 25, 2007, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 24, 2007, 09:54:23 PM
FYI there's a stomach virus making the rounds and I have it. Don't feel too zesty yet but I have a feeling I'm going to get the full effects tomorrow.
It's going around here, too. Gotta keep taking the vitamins and being damned near OCD with the hand washing.
I made the stupid mistake of going to the gym and trying to work out. Did 1 set and nearly fell over. I get extra dumb points for going back after getting some water to try another set.
I wish our urinals here at work had the walls separating each pisser. The other bathrooms do, but not my friggin wing of the building
I like to stand a good 3 feet from the wall when at a urinal. Before I start, I usually look around the room and scream, "Hide the women and children... it's about to blooowwwww!" That is incredibly accurate.
In grade school it was common place to have pissing contests to see who could fire the longest distance accurately.
I've seen phattymatt piss across a street. I'm not shteinting you. Curb to curb. Never would have thought it was possible.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2007, 02:16:06 PM
I've watched with my hand firmly on my greased-up fleshpop as phattymatt pissed across a street. I'm not shteinting you. Curb to curb. Never would have thought it was possible.
I think this should go in your "not a man" thread.
I think you have a rather large crush on me.
What can I say? I love your body, Larry.
Got a wireless router yesterday and have been trying to figure it out ever since. So much for plug and play on a Mac. :win :win :win :win :win
Did you watch 60 Minutes last night? They had a segment all about exactly this problem, and how the Geek Squad and their ilk are becoming as necessary to the average person as a good plumber or electrician is..
Quote from: mussa on January 29, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
Got a wireless router yesterday and have been trying to figure it out ever since. So much for plug and play on a Mac. :win :win :win :win :win
what kind?
We have Macs at home, and I had a wireless router running in about 15 minutes.
Quote from: mussa on January 29, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
Got a wireless router yesterday and have been trying to figure it out ever since. So much for plug and play on a Mac. :win :win :win :win :win
I'm guessing since you said "a wireless router" and not "an Airport Express" you didn't get an Apple wireless router. The key to Apple's simplicity and stability is staying within their tightly controlled product experience - which means only buying Apple (or Apple approved) products.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 29, 2007, 01:15:23 PM
Did you watch 60 Minutes last night? They had a segment all about exactly this problem, and how the Geek Squad and their ilk are becoming as necessary to the average person as a good plumber or electrician is..
Hopefully there will be data communications codes just like there are electrical and plumbing codes, as well as licensing and bonding. With so much moving to the digital domain - family communications, home movies, photos - the cost of your computer getting farged is growing fast. Not something you want to trust to the neighborhood teenaged geek who thinks he has a clue...
Oh, and take the running of data cables out of the hands of the electricians. They barely understand electricity, and figure that gives them a clue about datacomms. It is all just wires, right?
this is the reason why, if you have a marginal friend who is experienced in computers or cars, you must take care of them.
my wife has several friends whose husbands would be a nuisance to me if not for their abilities to save me money.
Beer is cheaper than $50/hr.
yeah it is...
in fact, the best example of this was when my wife's friend's husband hooked a bunch of entertainment equipment up and hooked me up with a sweet setup, he probably did about 5 hours of work, including crawling around in my crawlspace getting filthy. let's say, conservatively, i could've paid him $35/hour, so about $175 worth of work.
i took him out that night and got him shteinfaced and full of food for about $35. that rules.
My buddy put in a new heat pump/cac system in my house and it cost me a pizza and a case of beer.
I tried to pay him the going rate but he got insulted that I even offered. To soothe things over, I took him to a strip joint and paid for about a dozen lap dances for him. I still saved a grand, easy.
Friends are better than money.
make new friends...
but keep the old...
one is silver...
and the other gold...
Friends are better than money
i buy all my friends so not really
Quote from: SunMo on January 29, 2007, 01:34:45 PM
yeah it is...
in fact, the best example of this was when my wife's friend's husband hooked a bunch of entertainment equipment up and hooked me up with a sweet setup, he probably did about 5 hours of work, including crawling around in my crawlspace getting filthy. let's say, conservatively, i could've paid him $35/hour, so about $175 worth of work.
i took him out that night and got him shteinfaced and full of food for about $35. that rules.
Rumor has it that your wife took care of the rest of the bill.
as long as i'm not paying actual money, i don't care
Quote from: Wingspan on January 29, 2007, 01:18:59 PM
Quote from: mussa on January 29, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
Got a wireless router yesterday and have been trying to figure it out ever since. So much for plug and play on a Mac. :win :win :win :win :win
what kind?
We have Macs at home, and I had a wireless router running in about 15 minutes.
The deal is I ordered the new airport extreme, but its not available until the end of February, SO I went to radio shack and got a netgear wireless router in the meantime. Radio Shack has the 30 day money back guarantee, so I'll just take the shtein back.
I followed all the directions, got the wireless connection, but its not loading webpages pages or IM. I have zero netorking experience, but I think the IP address' arn't matching. The router and computer IP has to match right? The other problem I have is, I use Vonage, so I can't call for service, because they will eventually tell me to shut off modem. On top of that, my cell phone gets almost zero service, so I'm farged.
My buddies brother apparently knows how to set-it up, so I am going o give him remote login to check out my current settings.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 29, 2007, 01:38:06 PM
Friends are better than money.
friends > money > physical harm (a la secondhand smoke)
Quote from: mussa on January 29, 2007, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on January 29, 2007, 01:18:59 PM
Quote from: mussa on January 29, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
Got a wireless router yesterday and have been trying to figure it out ever since. So much for plug and play on a Mac. :win :win :win :win :win
what kind?
We have Macs at home, and I had a wireless router running in about 15 minutes.
The deal is I ordered the new airport extreme, but its not available until the end of February, SO I went to radio shack and got a netgear wireless router in the meantime. Radio Shack has the 30 day money back guarantee, so I'll just take the shtein back.
I followed all the directions, got the wireless connection, but its not loading webpages pages or IM. I have zero netorking experience, but I think the IP address' arn't matching. The router and computer IP has to match right? The other problem I have is, I use Vonage, so I can't call for service, because they will eventually tell me to shut off modem. On top of that, my cell phone gets almost zero service, so I'm farged.
My buddies brother apparently knows how to set-it up, so I am going o give him remote login to check out my current settings.
Just go into your network prefences, and set your connection to wireless, and get info from DHCP.
As long as your cable modem is first out of the wall, and then the router. and that the router has the right user name and password set into it, it should work.
By the way, you cannot figure a wireless network on any router wirelessly. You must hook your laptop in hardwired to configure initially.
Yea. I did all that. Went through all the steps. Direct connected first to get it set-up, then when it was set-up, wouldn't work wirelss. I reset the router 3 times and re-did everything and still shows me connected, but I can't load pages or anything web. :boom
Blame the unicorns.
Quote from: SunMo on January 29, 2007, 01:25:12 PM
this is the reason why, if you have a marginal friend who is experienced in computers or cars, you must take care of them.
exactly. i have a few IT friends who I'll call up every now and then and see if they wanna hit happy hour. then end the conversation with 'hey by the way, how to i get this shtein to work.' it's a win-win, you get your stuff fixed and also get drunk.
It's almost February yet two people in my neighborhood still have their Christmas lights up. Burn.
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Reminds me of some of the stuff James Burke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burke_(science_historian)) mentioned with regard to our reliance on technology.
I've spent five of the last 18 hours commuting home from work last night and then into work this morning. farging MTA.
p.s. Burke Ave is my station (2 line). No relation, I'm sure, but farg him nevertheless for the 2 not running this morning.
The little fascists in my daughter's class at school got together and decided to forgo meat next week for Lent.
I heard about that and nearly went through the F'ing roof. I took her to school this morning and pulled her teacher out of the class for a private discussion. I told her that not only is my daughter allowed to eat whatever she wants, they have no right imposing dietary restrictions on her. Only we as her parents have that right.
With each passing day public school is looking better and better to me.
And yeah, I'm eating meat today. Lots of meat. Bacon, cheeseburgers, steaks, chicken, whatever the hell I want. If my soul burns in eternity over eating a cheeseburger on Fridays, then so be it. Just pass the barbeque sauce, Satan.
celebrate with a bacon cheeseburger, with pork roll on top, and t-bone steaks for the roll
Quote from: SunMo on February 23, 2007, 09:25:31 AM
celebrate with a bacon cheeseburger, with pork roll on top, and t-bone steaks for the roll
holy shtein that sounds delicious.
that's because it is delicious. i have 2 in my lunch pail right now
I know what I'm making for dinner tonight.
That sounds like a schmitter on roids.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 23, 2007, 09:22:56 AM
The little fascists in my daughter's class at school got together and decided to forgo meat next week for Lent.
I heard about that and nearly went through the F'ing roof. I took her to school this morning and pulled her teacher out of the class for a private discussion. I told her that not only is my daughter allowed to eat whatever she wants, they have no right imposing dietary restrictions on her. Only we as her parents have that right.
With each passing day public school is looking better and better to me.
And yeah, I'm eating meat today. Lots of meat. Bacon, cheeseburgers, steaks, chicken, whatever the hell I want. If my soul burns in eternity over eating a cheeseburger on Fridays, then so be it. Just pass the barbeque sauce, Satan.
So you're daughter is in catholic school?
Here's my little rant: So, you guys know how my wife need sugery, lost the baby...yada, yada... (for anyone who cares, she's doing way better than I could have expected, under the circumstances).
Anyway, after it happened I decided that I'd send a quick note out to the people at work that knew my wife was pregnant, so that I wouldn't get a ton of questions about it from a bunch of people when I got back to the office. I was pretty specific about who I sent the note to.
My boss had a 1-on-1 with his boss, the CIO, who I work with frequently. They spend the time talking about my personal problems, which is enough of a pain in the ass-- but the annoying part is that I think my boss did it not really to share information, but to have something to say and comiserate about it. Used it. That bothers me.
Worse that that, one of the reasons I didn't send my news direct to the CIO is that his wife is some sort of minister/counselor. And now he wants his wife to get in touch with me and my wife. I'm going to have to tell him today that we're moving along pretty well and that we don't need the assist-- but what a pain in the ass. I have to deal with this personal crap, which is bad enough-- but now I have to navigate the work politics crap (which I despise under the best of circumstances) as it relates to my personal life. F'n ridiculous.
Quote from: Wingspan on February 23, 2007, 09:35:40 AM
So you're daughter is in catholic school?
Yep. Other than the religious nonsense, it's the best school in our area. She's there for that reason more than anything else.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 23, 2007, 09:45:51 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on February 23, 2007, 09:35:40 AM
So you're daughter is in catholic school?
Yep. Other than the religious nonsense, it's the best school in our area. She's there for that reason more than anything else.
Well then they can do pretty much anything they want as far as food goes during lent.
If you think public school is going to be better, you're crazy. Instead of no meat for Lent, it'll be no dodgeball, etc.
am i missing something with romey getting upset that a catholic school is recognizing lent?
I'm not talking about abstaining from eating meat on Friday's (although I personally think that's idiotic).
I'm talking about abstaining from eating meat completely and unilaterally making a decision like that without the permission of the parents in the school.
One of the kids in the class decided that not eating meat would be a good idea. The teacher went along with it without consulting the parents. That's bullshtein, fellas.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 23, 2007, 09:54:24 AM
If you think public school is going to be better, you're crazy. Instead of no meat for Lent, it'll be no dodgeball, etc.
That's the quandry, Dio. It's also why I've spent the past two years biting my tongue at nearly everything that's gone on in the school.
It's not Catholic school like when I was a kid. It's a more spooky and fundamentalist brand than I remember.
Im catholic, went to catholic grade school and HS. I have no interest in giving up meat on fridays. It makes no sense. Every year i get into a fight with my wife about it. I always take the conspiracy side that its a made up tradition by the pasta company's in Italy to increase sales.
I don't see what the big deal is with giving up meat for a week. It's harmless. Not like you kid is being asked to burn the flag, pray to Allah, hang out at a gay club, etc. But whatever, parents like to get up in arms about these things, whether it's a catholic school or a private school.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 23, 2007, 10:00:27 AM
I'm not talking about abstaining from eating meat on Friday's (although I personally think that's idiotic).
I'm talking about abstaining from eating meat completely and unilaterally making a decision like that without the permission of the parents in the school.
One of the kids in the class decided that not eating meat would be a good idea. The teacher went along with it without consulting the parents. That's bullshtein, fellas.
Uh, what does your daughter say about it?
She's probably unwilling to talk, now that she's been, like, TOTALLY humiliated! In front of all her friends!
I really never understood why people sent they're kids to Catholic Schools but werent Catholic. Then would get all pizzed off about going to church during the schooldays.
So yesterday I had to go on a 20K ruck march, not normally a huge deal, but I am not in the best shape because I have been on Bradley training for the past 2 months. Afterwards I felt like someone ran me over with a dump truck, It hasn't helped that I have been in the gym all week. The thing that sucked though was that last night I decided to put some icy hot on. I guess when rubbing it on my legs I got too close to my balls, because they burned horribly for about 45 minutes. I will never do that again.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2007, 05:09:40 PM
The thing that sucked though was that last night I decided to put some icy hot on. I guess when rubbing it on my legs I got too close to my balls, because they burned horribly for about 45 minutes. I will never do that again.
Lets be honest, you got a little curious and wanted to see what it would feel like.
I think the feeling of icy hot on the sack is something every real man must experience.
But if you actually like it, you're not a real man.
Guy + IcyHot + Groin = Closed Thread.
It burns when you pee?
I have a 7 month old puppy. He has caused so much damage. I'm not even kidding when I say he's probably caused damages up to about $4000. He manages to get everything he's not supposed to, or finds an object that hasnt been seen in years. Whenever I come home from somewhere there's always some random item torn apart in the hallway, when so far it has been a toilet plunger, TV remote, deodorant, a toothbrush (like 4 times), an entire roll of toilet paper unrolled, etc. He has literally eaten about a foot off the bottom of some curtains. He chewed a hole about 2 inches wide and down to the hard floor out of a rug. He has singlehandedly ruined an entire couch that was in really good condition. When I say this I mean he completely tore it apart. He tore off one of the arm pads. He ripped out all of the stuffing out of that armpad. He wasn't satisfied with that, so where the armpad used to be, he tore a 2 foot wide hole there. He went into that hole and has eaten anything that was in it. The couch is completely shot, but there's no way in hell a new couch is coming into the house with this dog going to tear it up in days. Atleast by now (I've had him since November 11th) he doesnt piss or shtein in the house anymore. Which leads me to this:
I let him out because he was running around and looking at me which is generally his sign to me that he needs to go out.There are woods at the edge of the backyard, about 100 yards behind my house. A lot of animals live around here, I see rabbit tracks in the snow all the time and deer are always on the edge of the woods. There were four deer there just now. I didnt see the deer. He did. Tried chasing them down and ran into the woods. I had to walk out the back door all the way across the entire muddy yard (theres a creek also) and into the woods to go and get them. 10 minutes later he finally listened and came back, but this time decided not to walk across the 100 yards and decided on just sitting there next to my either dog and looking at me. I had to yell at them to get him inside.
Ever think of kenneling your dog? You can get a decent one for $100.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 16, 2007, 05:37:26 PM
It burns when you pee?
Of course, but I got that from a woman not by rubbing muscle relaxant on my junk.
I have a random patch of thinning hair about the size of a quarter. It makes me angry.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 16, 2007, 05:43:35 PM
Ever think of kenneling your dog? You can get a decent one for $100.
Ha, no way in hell I'm doing that. The only way I get rid of a dog is if he actually causes real harm to anyone. He's caused a shteinload of damage, but he's a 7 month old chocolate lab (which have supposedly the most high strung puppies...which is fairly obvious.) He's a real good watch dog already (kind of, when he isnt afraid of cars and their headlights, which I find hilarious) which is important because my yellow lab is the nicest dog you will ever see. I seriously dont remember the last time he barked.
When the yellow one was a 5 week old puppy he was $200. The chocolate one was $300 at 4 months. The older one hardly caused any damage at all. I'm liking that deal a bit better.
Definitely read your post wrong. Thought you meant get rid of the puppy and buy a new one for $100. :-D
He'll probably be trained sooner or later, maybe when all the destruction costs go down.
Dillen, do you guys have a kennel for the pup? How about Bitter Apple Spray?
In general, I hate kennels and everything about them. The last time I took either dog was to get the puppy neutered and dont plan to go for awhile. I'm sure a few of you saw the post I had near November although you wont probably wont remember. So to answer your question, not really.
The Bitter Apple Spray is a real good idea. Wish that I thought of it sooner. Unfortunately, there's not much to be saved anymore other than another couch. He'll still rip up the ground and everything, but I'll probably buy a bottle.
Dillen how much exercise are you able to provide for the dog. One of the most important factors in building trust and ridding dogs of destructive energy (and often the most overlooked) is running them into the ground. All Labs are inherently outdoor dogs and need A LOT of exercise.
We used the Bitter apple on anything that we think our pup now just over 1 year old would chew. We kept him in a Kennel overnight in our spare bedroom to avoid him getting into trouble. Luckily he's never been much of a chewer, but i really have to recommend the spray
farg that shtein. I would have put the dog to sleep. I don't care if he's a 'puppy'. The only shtein I'll put up with a dog is if it pisses or shteins in the house until trained. If its not a quick learned, I don't care how farging adorably cute the mother farger is, its gone.
He runs around pretty much as much humanly (canine-ly? No idea.) possible. He pisses off my yellow lab because he is always chewing at him and stuff like that even after they've been running around for an hour.
My yellow lab was 120 pounds. From the amount of time he's had to spend playing with the puppy, he's lost 20 pounds in 3 months. He plays enough.
And once again I was thinking about something else. I thought "kennel" meant like the shelters for dogs when you go on vacation and that shtein, not the cage. Nah...he definitely wouldnt like the cage. Most of the destruction is during the day when no one is home, and I'd rather not have him in a cage the entire day.
bionic....nice to see you're an animal person.
Quote from: Dillen on March 16, 2007, 06:01:20 PM
In general, I hate kennels and everything about them. The last time I took either dog was to get the puppy neutered and dont plan to go for awhile. I'm sure a few of you saw the post I had near November although you wont probably wont remember. So to answer your question, not really.
The Bitter Apple Spray is a real good idea. Wish that I thought of it sooner. Unfortunately, there's not much to be saved anymore other than another couch. He'll still rip up the ground and everything, but I'll probably buy a bottle.
lol..i think they mean crating your dog in the house....
We have a 10 month old. She's crated when alone. And she's rammy and destructive alot of the time. Howver, as long as you crate from early on, it's not punishment to the dog. And dogs prefer small confined places. It's not considered mean at all.
Quote from: Dillen on March 16, 2007, 06:13:41 PM
And once again I was thinking about something else. I thought "kennel" meant like the shelters for dogs when you go on vacation and that shtein, not the cage.
I'm aware.
I've raised 4 dogs, 3 of them had chewing problems when we first got them. The 3 with the problem were fixed within 2 weeks of kenneling. It's a little cruel, but very effective.
Crating works for us, but yeah, it stinks at first. If you leave the doors open its not a punishment but rather the dogs own space.
Our dogs love the crate/kennel. They hang out together and fall asleep.
our dog loves her crate too. she goes in there voluntarily now. she knows it's her space.
we've been putting her in there since we brought her home, and never as a punishment spot.
dogs often love confined small spaces.
We started ours out with the crate. He would actually go into it himself without any prompting. Last winter, though, Mrs. Birder felt bad for him, and started the "let the dog sleep on our bed" thing. The crate ship has definitely sailed, so I put it away.
He still goes onto the pad that used to be in the crate.
I'm about sick and tired of the cold weather and the goddamn snow/ice bullshtein. It was 80 degrees two days ago. Now I am freezing my balls off again. farg this shtein.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 16, 2007, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2007, 05:09:40 PM
The thing that sucked though was that last night I decided to put some icy hot on. I guess when rubbing it on my legs I got too close to my balls, because they burned horribly for about 45 minutes. I will never do that again.
Lets be honest, you got a little curious and wanted to see what it would feel like.
I wish.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 16, 2007, 08:05:52 PM
I'm about sick and tired of the cold weather and the goddamn snow/ice bullshtein. It was 80 degrees two days ago. Now I am freezing my balls off again. farg this shtein.
You moved to Pennsylvania, where you bitch about the weather, from Texas, where you bitch about the inbreds.
You can't have it all, slugger.
Unless you move to the mid-south part of PA, right by the border. Then you can have the inbreds and the bad weather!