Will the Eagles sign anyone on this list.....
link (http://scout.scout.com/a.z%20211&p=9&c=12&nid=83&lnid=83&yr=2006)
Pos Overall
Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College Current Team Signed Team
RB 1 Shaun Alexander UFA 6 5-11/225 Alabama Seattle
OG 2 Steve Hutchinson UFA 5 6-5/313 Michigan Seattle
QB 3 Drew Brees UFA 5 6-0/221 Purdue San Diego
C 4 LeCharles Bentley UFA 4 6-2/313 Ohio State New Orleans
RB 5 Edgerrin James UFA 7 6-0/214 Miami (Fl) Indianapolis
CB 6 Charles Woodson UFA 8 6-1/205 Michigan Oakland
RB 7 Jamal Lewis UFA 6 5-11/240 Tennessee Baltimore
OLB 8 Julian Peterson UFA 6 6-3/235 Michigan State San Francisco
OLB 9 Will Witherspoon UFA 4 6-1/231 Georgia Carolina
OT 10 Jon Runyan UFA 10 6-7/330 Michigan Philadelphia
WR 11 Reggie Wayne UFA 5 6-0/198 Miami (Fl) Indianapolis
DE 12 John Abraham UFA 6 6-4/256 South Carolina NY Jets
CB 13 Nate Clements UFA 5 5-10/190 Ohio State Buffalo
DE 14 Darren Howard UFA 6 6-3/275 Kansas State New Orleans
DT 15 Rocky Bernard UFA 4 6-3/290 Texas A&M Seattle
OT 16 Jeff Backus UFA 5 6-5/308 Michigan Detroit
RB 17 Ahman Green UFA 8 6-0/217 Nebraska Green Bay
DE 18 Aaron Kampman UFA 4 6-4/284 Iowa Green Bay
DE 19 Robert Mathis RFA 3 6-2/235 Alabama A&M Indianapolis
OLB 20 Cato June RFA 3 6-0/227 Michigan Indianapolis
WR 21 David Givens UFA 4 6-0/215 Notre Dame New England
S 22 Adam Archuleta UFA 4 5-11.5/209 Arizona State St. Louis
RB 23 Deshaun Foster UFA 4 6-0/222 UCLA Carolina
WR 24 Antonio Bryant UFA 4 6-1/192 Pittsburgh Cleveland
WR 25 Antwaan Randle El UFA 4 5-10/190 Indiana Pittsburgh
K 26 Adam Vinatieri UFA 10 6-0/200 South Dakota New England
K 27 Mike Vanderjagt UFA 8 6-5/211 West Virginia Indianapolis
DE 28 Orpheus Roye UFA 10 6-4/320 Florida State Cleveland
S 29 Corey Chavous UFA 8 6-1/205 Vanderbilt Minnesota
WR 30 Joe Jurevicius UFA 8 6-5/230 Penn State Seattle
WR 31 Nate Burleson RFA 3 6-0/192 Nevada Minnesota
P 32 Dave Zastudil UFA 4 6-3/210 Ohio Baltimore
RB 33 Michael Bennett UFA 5 5-9/209 Wisconsin Minnesota
FB 34 Mack Strong UFA 12 6-0/238 Georgia Seattle
DT 35 Chris Hovan UFA 6 6-2/298 Boston College Tampa Bay
QB 36 Kurt Warner UFA 8 6-2/220 Northern Iowa Arizona
MLB 37 Sam Cowart UFA 8 6-2/245 Florida State Minnesota
QB 38 Jon Kitna UFA 9 6-2/217 Central Washington Cincinnati
OT 39 Victor Riley UFA 8 6-5/340 Auburn Houston
C 40 Mike Flanagan UFA 10 6-5/297 UCLA Green Bay
S 41 Idrees Bashir UFA 4 6-2/198 Memphis Carolina
P 42 Tom Rouen UFA 14 6-3/225 Colorado Seattle
C 43 Justin Hartwig UFA 4 6-4/300 Kansas Tennessee
CB 44 Jerry Azumah UFA 7 5-10.5/192 New Hampshire Chicago
K 45 Joe Nedney UFA 10 6-5/225 San Jose State San Francisco
OLB 46 Keith Newman UFA 7 6-2/248 North Carolina Minnesota
C 47 Jeff Mitchell UFA 8 6-4/300 Florida Carolina
WR 48 David Boston UFA 7 6-2/228 Ohio State Miami
DE 49 Ndukwe Kalu UFA 9 6-4/265 Rice Philadelphia
MLB 50 Matt Wilhelm RFA 3 6-4/245 Ohio State San Diego
Yes. Next question?
Will it be robocop?
I'm going to answer "no" on that one.
I hope the Eagles FA answers "yes" on Witherspoon, Runyan and Randle El. Jon Kitna wouldn't be a bad back-up, either. Wonder if the Mormons get along with the Born Agains that well?
That's asking too much from this team I think, but I gotta dream.
Zastudil, maybe Bentley.
I have a question. Is there any way you can make the font on that list smaller?
Thanks.
Hold Ctrl and roll your mousewheel up. Dick.
Drew Brees for McNabb....hulla!
Quote from: Diomedes on February 11, 2006, 01:07:03 PM
Hold Ctrl and roll your mousewheel up. Dick.
Thanks, Dubya!
:yay
Quote from: Diomedes on February 11, 2006, 01:07:03 PM
Hold Ctrl and roll your mousewheel up. Dick.
Kewl. It makes teh werdz biggar. Or smallar.
That is teh awesum.
Witherspoon and Bernard.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 11, 2006, 03:56:39 PM
Witherspoon and Bernard.
I'm on that wagon. I want Defense, Defense, Defense.
If I had it my way, we'd sign Witherspoon, Bernard, then trade up to draft Mario Williams.
Shaun Alexander UFA 6 5-11/225 Alabama Seattle
Steve Hutchinson UFA 5 6-5/313 Michigan Seattle
Drew Brees UFA 5 6-0/221 Purdue San Diego
LeCharles Bentley UFA 4 6-2/313 Ohio State New Orleans
Edgerrin James UFA 7 6-0/214 Miami (Fl) Indianapolis
Charles Woodson UFA 8 6-1/205 Michigan Oakland
Jamal Lewis UFA 6 5-11/240 Tennessee Baltimore
Julian Peterson UFA 6 6-3/235 Michigan State San Francisco
Will Witherspoon UFA 4 6-1/231 Georgia Carolina
Jon Runyan UFA 10 6-7/330 Michigan Philadelphia
Reggie Wayne UFA 5 6-0/198 Miami (Fl) Indianapolis
John Abraham UFA 6 6-4/256 South Carolina NY Jets
Nate Clements UFA 5 5-10/190 Ohio State Buffalo
Darren Howard UFA 6 6-3/275 Kansas State New Orleans
Rocky Bernard UFA 4 6-3/290 Texas A&M Seattle
Jeff Backus UFA 5 6-5/308 Michigan Detroit
Ahman Green UFA 8 6-0/217 Nebraska Green Bay
Aaron Kampman UFA 4 6-4/284 Iowa Green Bay
Robert Mathis RFA 3 6-2/235 Alabama A&M Indianapolis
Cato June RFA 3 6-0/227 Michigan Indianapolis
David Givens UFA 4 6-0/215 Notre Dame New England
Adam Archuleta UFA 4 5-11.5/209 Arizona State St. Louis
Deshaun Foster UFA 4 6-0/222 UCLA Carolina
Antonio Bryant UFA 4 6-1/192 Pittsburgh Cleveland
Antwaan Randle El UFA 4 5-10/190 Indiana Pittsburgh
Adam Vinatieri UFA 10 6-0/200 South Dakota New England
Mike Vanderjagt UFA 8 6-5/211 West Virginia Indianapolis
Orpheus Roye UFA 10 6-4/320 Florida State Cleveland
Corey Chavous UFA 8 6-1/205 Vanderbilt Minnesota
Joe Jurevicius UFA 8 6-5/230 Penn State Seattle
Nate Burleson RFA 3 6-0/192 Nevada Minnesota
Dave Zastudil UFA 4 6-3/210 Ohio Baltimore
Michael Bennett UFA 5 5-9/209 Wisconsin Minnesota
Mack Strong UFA 12 6-0/238 Georgia Seattle
Chris Hovan UFA 6 6-2/298 Boston College Tampa Bay
Kurt Warner UFA 8 6-2/220 Northern Iowa Arizona
Sam Cowart UFA 8 6-2/245 Florida State Minnesota
Jon Kitna UFA 9 6-2/217 Central Washington Cincinnati
Victor Riley UFA 8 6-5/340 Auburn Houston
Mike Flanagan UFA 10 6-5/297 UCLA Green Bay
Idrees Bashir UFA 4 6-2/198 Memphis Carolina
Tom Rouen UFA 14 6-3/225 Colorado Seattle
Justin Hartwig UFA 4 6-4/300 Kansas Tennessee
Jerry Azumah UFA 7 5-10.5/192 New Hampshire Chicago
Joe Nedney UFA 10 6-5/225 San Jose State San Francisco
Keith Newman UFA 7 6-2/248 North Carolina Minnesota
Jeff Mitchell UFA 8 6-4/300 Florida Carolina
David Boston UFA 7 6-2/228 Ohio State Miami
Ndukwe Kalu UFA 9 6-4/265 Rice Philadelphia
Matt Wilhelm RFA 3 6-4/245 Ohio State San Diego
I want Bernard, Howard, Peterson, Randle El, Kitna, and re-sign Runyan. Mack Strong wouldn't be a bad pickup either. Then draft LenDale White.
Let's just win this farging thing next year, OK??
Ahman Green UFA 8 6-0/217 Nebraska Green Bay
sleeper - back up - third headed monster - come cheap - johnson
????
Green looked absolutely horrible last year. At the vet minimum, I'd consider him. The Eagles need a back who can pound it. And Green used to be able to take one up the middle. I'd be interested in seeing how he's recovered from his injury to see if he's lost any power to his game.
An injured vet? From Green Bay? Hell, he's practically here already.
im on the other side of the fence....i think green is too good to be true..hes one of those players that if the birds got him youd be like unreal move i cant believe ahman green is our third rb...
It's a weak free agent class when ND Kalu is listed in the top 50...
Ahman Green wouldn't be a target because of his legal problems with beatin on his old lady, I'd guess. But I think some team will offer him a larger role than the Eagles.
I could see 4 of those guys signed...
Runyan
Witherspoon
Bernard
Kampman
Petey Prisco, as usual, is smoking rock...
His top 10:
Quote1. Steve Hutchinson, G, Seahawks: He is far and away the best at his position in the league. He is a mauler who teams with tackle Walter Jones to make up the best side of any line in the league. Hutchinson is 28 and will turn 29 in November, but that's young for an interior lineman. Seattle will likely place the franchise tag on him, but if he were to come free, he would be a target for a lot of teams. Normally, I don't condone paying a lot of money to guards, but this is a special player.
2. LeCharles Bentley, C/G, Saints: Bentley is 26 and will not turn 27 until December. He's in the prime of his career. Bentley played guard his first two seasons in the league and center the past two. Some say he's a better guard, but he wants to play center. Wherever he plays, he brings a tough-guy attitude to the job. He doesn't back down to anyone. Just ask Warren Sapp, a player he whipped several times when they were in the same division. The Saints aren't expected to put the franchise tag on him and Bentley wants out of New Orleans, so look for him to hit the market.
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3. John Abraham, DE, Jets: Abraham will be 28 in May, so he's in that target age. Abraham had 10½ sacks last year and 53½ in the past six seasons. He is a speed rusher, and those guys are hard to find. He does come with some off-field issues, but he's not that bad a guy. With teams desperate for pass rushers, he will sign early if he hits the market. The Jets would like to keep him, but they have cap issues that might make that tough to do.
4. Drew Brees, QB, Chargers: He just turned 27, so he has a lot of good football in front of him. It's highly unlikely that he is on this list when the period starts because he'll either get tagged or signed. He is coming off shoulder surgery, which has to be a concern to the Chargers. But it also might help drive down his price. He'll be back in San Diego, but for now he finds a spot on this list.
5. Reggie Wayne, WR, Colts: The Colts have indicated they will make Wayne a priority rather than James. That makes sense, too. The Colts are a pass-oriented team and Wayne has emerged as a big-time talent opposite Marvin Harrison. He has 160 catches the past two seasons. It's tough to let that leave. At 28, he fits the age requirements.
6. Julian Peterson, OLB, 49ers: Coming off a torn Achilles' tendon in 2004, Peterson didn't play as well in 2005 as he has in the past. But he's still a talented player who can be disruptive in the pass game and playing the run. He turns 28 in July, so he has his best football in front of him.
7. Nate Clements, CB, Bills: With a lot of teams in need of corner help, Clements is the best of the class. He is a tough guy who can cover and is a good tackler. He is 26 and won't turn 27 until December. He is what a lot of teams want in their corners. If the Bills don't franchise him, he will be gone early in free agency.
8. Chris Hope, S, Steelers: He had more tackles and more interceptions than Troy Polamalu, but he doesn't get the due his teammate gets. But Hope is a player. He is rangy and he will hit you. The Steelers will do everything they can to keep him, but he might hit the market. If he does, he is a guy a lot of teams should look at closely. This is a heck of a player. Plus, he's only 25.
9. Rocky Bernard, DT, Seahawks: He came on strong last season, which is a sign he's an ascending player. Bernard is more quick than powerful, which helped him get 8½ sacks. He is much like Rod Coleman, who Atlanta signed away from Oakland. Defensive tackles who can get to the quarterback are tough to find. That's why the 26-year-old Bernard finds his way onto the list.
10. Will Witherspoon, LB, Panthers: For teams looking for a run-and-chase linebacker, Witherspoon is the guy. He isn't big, but he has the speed and athletic ability. He's 25 and will turn 26 in August. He didn't play as well in 2005 as he did in 2004, but with more teams looking for speed on he will get some action.
Chris Hope at #8?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Everyone's entitled to a couple of "reaches" in their opinion.
Not having N.D. Kalu on that list makes me furious.
Sign Kalu!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 11, 2006, 08:38:28 PM
Runyan
Witherspoon
Bernard
Kampman
:drool
Of course, I am fully expecting the Eagles' FA pickups to be much more underwhelming as usual.
Kyle VandenBosch should be on the list.
LIke I said in the ProBowl thread...
ProBowl or no ProBowl VandenBosch is making himself some serious money this year. He signed the one year deal with TEN to prove he was healthy and then went out and had 12.5 sacks for a shtein ass team. Now he has 2 more sacks tonight.
GET KVB. Yes, I'm serious.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 11, 2006, 06:08:36 PM
Green looked absolutely horrible last year. At the vet minimum, I'd consider him. The Eagles need a back who can pound it. And Green used to be able to take one up the middle. I'd be interested in seeing how he's recovered from his injury to see if he's lost any power to his game.
- He's not a power back.
- He was hurt almost all of last year.
- He'll never settle for less than a starting role
Vet minimum that is hilarious..... :-D Smoke much?
If we COULD get Green at the vet minimum, that'd be nice. He's gonna want a lot more, though.
Green isn't the answer. We have enough backs that sort of fit his mold.
Quote from: JailBird-man on February 16, 2006, 11:54:09 AM
- He's not a power back.
- He was hurt almost all of last year.
- He'll never settle for less than a starting role
[li]He's a wife beater[/li]
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There are many reasons Green will not be an Eagle.
Quote from: Zanshin on February 16, 2006, 12:15:19 PM
We have enough backs that sort of fit his mold.
You mean the shouldn't be a starting RB mold? Yeah, I agree.
QuoteYou mean the shouldn't be a starting RB mold? Yeah, I agree.
I have an agreement boner.
blood clot
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 12, 2006, 07:11:53 PM
Kyle VandenBosch should be on the list.
LIke I said in the ProBowl thread...
ProBowl or no ProBowl VandenBosch is making himself some serious money this year. He signed the one year deal with TEN to prove he was healthy and then went out and had 12.5 sacks for a shtein ass team. Now he has 2 more sacks tonight.
GET KVB. Yes, I'm serious.
I wouldn't have minded picking him up, but he just signed a long-term deal with the Titans.
As for a backup QB, I wouldn't mind getting Chad Pennington if the Jets cut him and he can come cheap.
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on February 17, 2006, 12:15:09 AM
As for a backup QB, I wouldn't mind getting Chad Pennington if the Jets cut him and he can come cheap.
Nooo! He's done. Over. Broke. Ain't ever gonna be half decent again.
Give me Aaron Brooks, or John Kitna. Give me a real quarterback as a back-up.
QuoteJets | Pennington declines pay cut
Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:23:48 -0800
Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports New York Jets QB Chad Pennington's agent, Tom Condon, has rejected the Jets' proposal to slash the injured quarterback's base salary for 2006 to $1 million and force him to earn the remaining $8 million he is owed through incentives. The Jets have until Mar. 3 to decide if they can live with Pennington's current contract, negotiate a cap reduction or release him. The quarterback is due a $3 million roster bonus Mar. 3.
The Jets salary cap woes are going to go from bad to slit-your-own throat worse thanks to Pennington.
Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fans.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on February 17, 2006, 12:42:30 PM
QuoteJets | Pennington declines pay cut
Fri, 17 Feb 2006 05:23:48 -0800
Ken Berger, of Newsday, reports New York Jets QB Chad Pennington's agent, Tom Condon, has rejected the Jets' proposal to slash the injured quarterback's base salary for 2006 to $1 million and force him to earn the remaining $8 million he is owed through incentives. The Jets have until Mar. 3 to decide if they can live with Pennington's current contract, negotiate a cap reduction or release him. The quarterback is due a $3 million roster bonus Mar. 3.
We'll see you soon, Chad.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 17, 2006, 01:08:35 PMCouldn't happen to a nicer group of fans.
What do you have against the Jets?
I wouldn't be upset with Pennington being a backup because he would clearly be serviceable, but it won't ever happen. And it would be better to develop someone rather than just retread some noodle armed choir boy. If they end up signing him, meh. If they don't meh.
Oh, believe me. I don't really think there's a chance in hell he comes here. He refuses to restructure an $8 mill paycheck because he obviously thinks he can still play. He sure as hell won't take the chump change the Eagles would throw his way to come and ride the pine.
We can talk backup QB til we're blue in the face, but we all know it's gonna be good ol' ass eyes.
All this Pennington talk is nonsense. No NFL QB has ever successfully recovered from throwing arm rotator cuff tear/surgical repair. Much less twice in back to back years.
And he was hardly great before the injuries. He's done.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 17, 2006, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 17, 2006, 01:08:35 PMCouldn't happen to a nicer group of fans.
What do you have against the Jets?
I have nothing against the Jets. Their fans are iceholes, however.
And before you start in again with the "New York" thing, yeah... I know plenty of Jets fans. The ones I've met are uniformly arrogant, clueless, bandwagoning douchebags who run around in gay little firefighter hats chanting Giants cheers by mistake.
Yeah, well.
I just can't hate on a losing AFC team that plays second fiddle to one of the Eagles' arch rivals. Just makes no sense to me. And the fans I know are alright. Certainly more tolerable than many, many brands of fans.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 17, 2006, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: PhillyandBCEagles on February 17, 2006, 12:15:09 AM
As for a backup QB, I wouldn't mind getting Chad Pennington if the Jets cut him and he can come cheap.
Nooo! He's done. Over. Broke. Ain't ever gonna be half decent again.
Give me Aaron Brooks, or John Kitna. Give me a real quarterback as a back-up.
Aaron Brooks?
We;ve already got a guy who is careless with the ball and loves to throw INTs...Mike McMahon
Supposedly Clayton on ESPN said Moulds is as good as gone and will become a FA.
Good news if the Eagles want him.
Get him as soon as his ass is cut. Seriously. LIke before that old bastich Levy can muster up enough breath for the final "t" in cut call his agent and sign him.
He is not subjected to FA period.
Just like Derrick Mason and Moose Muhammad last year. They signed before FA after they were cut.
Do you think he's got that much left to jump at him that quickly?
I'm in favor of signing Moulds, but I want him less than I used to. Mainly because I'd rather get a young guy in here so we can stop worrying about receivers every two years. If we got a young guy we would put an end to this receiver problem.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 12:38:13 AM
Do you think he's got that much left to jump at him that quickly?
I'm in favor of signing Moulds, but I want him less than I used to. Mainly because I'd rather get a young guy in here so we can stop worrying about receivers every two years. If we got a young guy we would put an end to this receiver problem.
I think Moulds would be the perfect fit because he's going to be more than servicable as a #1 for 2 more years (barring injury) and he'll also be a nice veteran tutor for Reggie Brown. Sign Moulds for a couple of years and then let Brown take over for him. Brown + Moulds = Football wood.
There aren't really any young guys out there who I like.
Randle El? He's benefitting big time from a weak FA class. Would you pay him #1 type money? I am not sure that I would. But some team is going to that's for sure.
Bryant? He's a knucklehead. If he couldn't cut it on the Cowboys with that owner and coach he won't cut it here. He's immature and a hothead.
Eric Moulds is older, yes. But he is what a team who is in a "WIN NOW" mode needs. And the Eagles are in that mode for sure. You want a young guy to develop? We've already got him. So you sign Moulds and let the savvy veteran do his thing while Brown continues to grow. Moulds is still a very good WR. I don't care about 3 years from now. He's good for 2 more years for sure.
The only other WRs who I like are:
David Givens, Kevin Curtis and David Tyree.
Givens is my #2 option to come here. If they cannot or will not get Moulds then they better land Givens.
Curtis is a RFA and certainly will get the mid-level RFA tender because compensation for him with the low tender would be a 4th rounder. Ike Bruce is on his last legs and Linehan likes Curtis a lot. No way the Rams let him go.
David Tyree is a guy I would love to see here. Not as a WR but as a STs demon. The only reason I put him on here is because his listed position is WR. He's also a RFA and likely will get the mid-tender because if they low tender him someone can have him for a 7th rounder. He'd be the 4th WR here though.
I guess, but in two years it's back to looking for another compliment for Reggie. By then Reggie may be the #1, but still we will be back to looking for another receiver.
But, yeah, I'd take Moulds.
That's how it goes though. Unless you're lucky you usually don't have two stud WRs. But let's worry about who the #2 is when the time comes.
1. Moulds
2. Givens
Get one of them
I'll put Bryant in front of Givens. He's more of a big-play guy. Givens doesn't have enough speed for me, but he's good for a possession receiver.
Get Moulds like we got Kearse....when the clock strikes midnight to FA day.
Bryant is a farging headcase. Sorry, don't want another one on this team.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 08:43:39 AM
Get Moulds like we got Kearse....when the clock strikes midnight to FA day.
Bryant is a farging headcase. Sorry, don't want another one on this team.
Despite his locker room problems, I still don't think it's a given that Moulds gets released.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 08:43:39 AM
Get Moulds like we got Kearse....when the clock strikes midnight to FA day.
Bryant is a farging headcase. Sorry, don't want another one on this team.
Despite his locker room problems, I still don't think it's a given that Moulds gets released.
Read back a few posts, Sailorboy. You'll see why I am talking about Moulds again.
The WIP morning show mentioned something about an ESPN Insider article saying the Eagles are going after Randle El like they did for Kearse 2 years ago? Anyone? Bueller? ???
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 21, 2006, 09:56:22 AM
The WIP morning show mentioned something about an ESPN Insider article saying the Eagles are going after Randle El like they did for Kearse 2 years ago? Anyone? Bueller? ???
The combination of 2 sources just named was enough for me to laugh and point at you Ed. :P
WIP had no clue that the Eagles were going after Kearse. I'm sure they're just as clueless this time around too.
As much as I think he'd be a nice addition, I'd be very surprised if the Eagles go after Randel-El as one of their top targets. I guess I'd be happy, but just think it's a weird way to go with other pressing needs.
Also, would he be our #1 right away? Or does Pinky go to #1 when he comes back?
PS...there is nothing I can see on Insider about the Eagles going after Randle-El.
Shocker.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:01:11 AMThe combination of 2 sources just named was enough for me to laugh and point at you Ed. :P
Never said I trusted either one, but I don't have ESPN Insider, so I was just wondering what they saw to say that...
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 12:49:01 AM
I guess, but in two years it's back to looking for another compliment for Reggie. By then Reggie may be the #1, but still we will be back to looking for another receiver.
But, yeah, I'd take Moulds.
I figure the Eagles could sign Moulds in FA and then you're top 2 WR's are set for a good 2, maybe 3 years. They could also draft a young WR they like to groom for the future with Reggie after Moulds steps aside.
i point and laugh at anyone who pays for espn insider.
Quote from: Wingspan on February 21, 2006, 10:09:29 AM
i point and laugh at anyone who pays for espn insider.
I haven't paid for it for years, yet I still have it. I also get ESPN Magazine and don't pay for it. I have no idea how, but I do.
I don't know how I feel about Randle-El being here. He's athletic and all that, but it'll just take a whole lot of money for a guy who's probably a better punt returner than a WR.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 21, 2006, 10:10:13 AM
I don't know how I feel about Randle-El being here. He's athletic and all that, but it'll just take a whole lot of money for a guy who's probably a better punt returner than a WR.
Well, considering WIP is saying it could happen, you can pretty much figure it won't. :)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:10:06 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on February 21, 2006, 10:09:29 AM
i point and laugh at anyone who pays for espn insider.
I haven't paid for it for years, yet I still have it. I also get ESPN Magazine and don't pay for it. I have no idea how, but I do.
i subscribed to espn the mag when it first came out. only paid for it for a year, but i think i had it sent to me for almost 2.5.
in fact i bet that mag still goes to that old apartment.
i still point and laugh at anyone who pays for espn insider.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:10:06 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on February 21, 2006, 10:09:29 AM
i point and laugh at anyone who pays for espn insider.
I haven't paid for it for years, yet I still have it. I also get ESPN Magazine and don't pay for it. I have no idea how, but I do.
I still get the magazine but can't log on to Insider anymore. It's been like that for about 3 years. I'm not going to call anyone and complain though because then they'll probably figure out they've been sending me a free magazine all this time.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 09:54:55 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 09:52:05 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 08:43:39 AM
Get Moulds like we got Kearse....when the clock strikes midnight to FA day.
Bryant is a farging headcase. Sorry, don't want another one on this team.
Despite his locker room problems, I still don't think it's a given that Moulds gets released.
Read back a few posts, Sailorboy. You'll see why I am talking about Moulds again.
And I'll bring all my glasses and my shoes...so I have them.
OK Sol.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AM
OK Sol.
:yay :yay :yay
I underestimated you, I thought that one would go over your head :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:10:58 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 21, 2006, 10:10:13 AM
I don't know how I feel about Randle-El being here. He's athletic and all that, but it'll just take a whole lot of money for a guy who's probably a better punt returner than a WR.
Well, considering WIP is saying it could happen, you can pretty much figure it won't. :)
There ya go. At least WIP is good for something... even if it is putting the wrong shtein out there. They get everyone thinking we're going after Randle-El... so we can go ahead and snatch Witherspoon or somebody while no one's looking.
I got warts all over, in my ass!
I bet you can't burn them off, because that would probably seal me up for good, right?
That doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I'd bet you'd welcome the change from some other guy's yogurt slinger up there wouldn't ya?
So, PhillyGirl gets the joke, but you don't.
I'm now pointing and laughing at you.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on February 21, 2006, 10:37:18 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:24:33 AM
OK Sol.
:yay :yay :yay
I underestimated you, I thought that one would go over your head :-D
LOL...when I was in college, these 2 guys I knew had the bootleg cassette tape (I think it was like 1991) of the first Jerky Boys tape. Not only did they listen to it NONSTOP, but they talked like them NONSTOP. I knew every line of that tape.
I have them downloaded on my iPOD, sucks when I have it on shuffle while I'm at the gym, just breaks my concentration.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:49:40 AM
when I was in college ... (I think it was like 1991)
Whoa, you're old.
Ha!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on February 21, 2006, 10:56:37 AM
And?
I really wasn't expecting to go anywhere else with that. Carry on.
You discovered her yourself....at the bar in Philly. :P
Found something on ESPN INsider:
QuoteWednesday, February 15
WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY
Antwaan Randle El
Bears
Eagles?
Randle El leaning toward Bears?
<Feb. 15> Antwaan Randle El indicated to the Chicago Tribune that the Bears might be at the top of his free-agent shopping list.
"Certainly my family members want me to come here and play here. Also my friends and those who are involved in marketing and that sort of thing," Randle El told the paper.
Randle El is represented by Fletcher Smith, who also represents Eagles QB Donovan McNabb, and there have been hints the Eagles might make a run at the Steelers receiver/kick returner, as well.
;)
Getting Randle-El would be a nice addition at a sub-#1 price tag.
Thanks for the Insider tip, Oldie Hawn.
I think the Randle-El talk is a smokescreen. Some team is going to come along and give him way to big a deal for his worth. Give me Moulds.
And Sol Rosenberg.
She poured a hot pan of grease all over my chest and my ass and genitals and I fell down the stairs and my shoes fell off.
Sol soundboard (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/solrosenberg.html)
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2006, 10:49:03 AM
So, PhillyGirl gets the joke, but you don't.
I'm now pointing and laughing at you.
Somehow, someway, I'll gather the strength to go on living. ;)
Quote from: phattymatty on February 21, 2006, 11:46:10 AM
She poured a hot pan of grease all over my chest and my ass and genitals and I fell down the stairs and my shoes fell off.
Jerky Boys = :-D
If it comes down to Randle El or Moulds, give me Moulds. I'm not a fan of Randle El.
Thanks for reeling this one back on topic. I'm the other way around, tho. Give me Randle El over Moulds, but not at #1 money. He can return kicks and improve the WR corps, but I don't see him as much more than that. Reggie Brown is the #1 reciever on the Eagles next year, imho.
Randle El like someone before said is a better return man than a receiver. He's the type of receiver who makes like one nice catch but be non-existent the whole game besides that.
Quote from: Diomedes on February 21, 2006, 04:57:42 PM
Thanks for reeling this one back on topic. I'm the other way around, tho. Give me Randle El over Moulds, but not at #1 money. He can return kicks and improve the WR corps, but I don't see him as much more than that. Reggie Brown is the #1 reciever on the Eagles next year, imho.
But we're not going to get Randle-El at less than #1 WR money. Next to Reggie Wayne, Randle-El will be the most coveted WR this offseason. If Wayne gets franchised like the Colts say they want to... Randle-El's price goes up even more. He also carries the weight with him of just playing in and winning the SB... he's gonna get a big payday. Let someone else pay him #1 WR money to get a punt return specialist in return.
One intriguing name is Coles.
There was a rumor he might be cut if he doesn't take a paycut. I'd take him over Moulds because he's younger. He's tough too and has speed.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 05:46:42 PM
One intriguing name is Coles.
There was a rumor he might be cut if he doesn't take a paycut. I'd take him over Moulds because he's younger. He's tough too and has speed.
No way. taterskins fans say he sucks ever since he left D.C. And you know, taterskins fans are never wrong.
:-D
He did fairly well with absolutely no QB up in NY last year. I've always liked Coles. He's gutsy.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 21, 2006, 05:20:18 PMBut we're not going to get Randle-El at less than #1 WR money. Next to Reggie Wayne, Randle-El will be the most coveted WR this offseason. If Wayne gets franchised like the Colts say they want to... Randle-El's price goes up even more. He also carries the weight with him of just playing in and winning the SB... he's gonna get a big payday. Let someone else pay him #1 WR money to get a punt return specialist in return.
Well, if you're right then I agree.
Feva is spot on. I still don't see why there's so much fuss about Randle El. Yes, he's a quality player and would most certainly be a nice addition to any team including the Eagles. But let's get serious here. They guy is not a bonafide stud. He's the Tayshawn Prince of the NFL. He's a guy who can do a lot of things to create problems for the opposition but he's far from the number 1 option on the team.
For the money he's likely going to get, he's simply not worth it. This team doesn't need a "gadget" player. Westbrook already fills that billet. And even though the Eagles need help in the return game, they don't need to get it from either of their starting recievers.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
He's the Tayshawn Prince of the NFL.
Tayshawn Prince is a sissybitch who plays in a sissybitch league.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 21, 2006, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
He's the Tayshawn Prince of the NFL.
Tayshawn Prince is a sissybitch who plays in a sissybitch league.
(http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050622/prince_1324.jpg)
Quote from: rjs246 on February 21, 2006, 07:59:28 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2006, 07:51:44 PM
He's the Tayshawn Prince of the NFL.
Tayshawn Prince is a sissybitch who plays in a sissybitch league.
Point(s) taken, but that still doesn't mean he isn't a player who every team would take a shot at if/when he becomes a free agent.
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 06:04:45 PMI've always liked Coles. He's gutsy.
His stepdad liked him too
Ouch
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 22, 2006, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 06:04:45 PMI've always liked Coles. He's gutsy.
His stepdad liked him too
Damn Ed... didn't know you had it in you. :-D :-D :-D
well played
Quote from: Diomedes on February 21, 2006, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 21, 2006, 05:20:18 PMBut we're not going to get Randle-El at less than #1 WR money. Next to Reggie Wayne, Randle-El will be the most coveted WR this offseason. If Wayne gets franchised like the Colts say they want to... Randle-El's price goes up even more. He also carries the weight with him of just playing in and winning the SB... he's gonna get a big payday. Let someone else pay him #1 WR money to get a punt return specialist in return.
Well, if you're right then I agree.
If.... I'm right?
I'll just throw this here vice starting new thread for it:
QuoteGreen Bay's Kampman Could Interest Eagles By Lane Adkins
Scout.com
Date: Mar 1, 2006
The Eagles are looking for a few good men on the defensive side of the ball. Green Bay is trying to keep Aaron Kampman in town with a new contract, but if that doesn't get done, the Eagles may ask him about switching the color green that he wears.
The Packers have had ongoing discussions regarding the status of soon-to-be free agent defensive end Aaron Kampman. The Packers feel their defense is an improved unit and want to begin to establish some continuity.
Kampman, while not generally regarded as a pass rushing end, was again a consistent performer for the team in the 2005 season. Green Bay anticipates Kampman will be a high demand if he becomes a free agent on March 3rd.
Team General Manager Ted Thompson regards Kampman as a foundation type player, but is not expected to over-extend in contract talks leading up to the free agent player signing period.
"The Packers have shown they want to keep Aaron (Kampman) and are in talks to see if a deal can be done prior to free agency," a source close to the player said.
The free agent market at the defensive end position is regarded as average heading into the signing period, with New York Jets defensive end John Abraham leading the list at the end position (Abraham was franchised but is available via trade).
With Cleveland Browns defensive end Orpheus Roye agreeing to a contract with the Browns this week, one more highly regarded talent has been removed from the equation.
"Kampman will be sought because he is consistent. The market price at the position may be magnified due to the overall questionable amount of available talent," one agent said. "If there was a time to be a free agent at the end position, this off-season may be as good a time as any."
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 22, 2006, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: Philly Forever on February 21, 2006, 06:04:45 PMI've always liked Coles. He's gutsy.
His stepdad liked him too
This thread being bumped just drew this post to my attention.
This is probably the best post of Ed's :CF career. Mean-spirited, witty, and NO SMILIES! :yay ;) :P :-D :yay
:)
I'll just post this KFFL crap here since it's old news. The Eagles being interested in Jurevicius is new though.
QuoteEagles | Team might have interest in Hutchinson
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:47:04 -0800
Larry O'Rourke, of The Morning Call, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in Seattle Seahawks OG Steve Hutchinson if he hits the free agent market. The Eagles would likely have to include $10 million or more in bonus money since the Seahawks are able to match any offer another team makes to him. Hutchinson has been given the transition tag by the Seahawks.
Eagles | Team might have interest in Bentley
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:46:35 -0800
Larry O'Rourke, of The Morning Call, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in New Orleans Saints C LeCharles Bentley if he hits the free agent market. Bentley would be targeted to replace current Eagles C Hank Fraley.
Eagles | Team might have interest in Jurevicius
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:45:34 -0800
Larry O'Rourke, of The Morning Call, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in Seattle Seahawks WR Joe Jurevicius if he hits the free agent market. Jurevicius would add a veteran presence to the team's receiving corps. He could also relieve some pressure off Eagles WR Reggie Brown and help ease fears in case WR Todd Pinkston (Achilles') does not return to his pre-injury form.
Eagles | Team might have interest in Randle El
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:29:12 -0800
Larry O'Rourke, of The Morning Call, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in Pittsburgh Steelers WR Antwaan Randle El if he hits the free agent market. Randle El would help bolster the receiving corps while being able to play on special teams and act as an emergency third quarterback.
Eagles | Team expected to release Owens on Thursday
Wed, 1 Mar 2006 20:10:28 -0800
Larry O'Rourke, of The Morning Call, reports the Philadelphia Eagles are expected to cut WR Terrell Owens on Thursday, March 2.
4 "mights" and breaking news of TO being released. Good reporting, Larry.
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 02, 2006, 12:00:21 AM
4 "mights" and breaking news of TO being released. Good reporting, Larry.
What a Focker ;D
I think they were on to you this time, but a few are still falling for it... :-D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 01, 2006, 05:22:42 PM
I'll just throw this here vice starting new thread for it:
QuoteGreen Bay's Kampman Could Interest Eagles By Lane Adkins
Scout.com
Date: Mar 1, 2006
The Eagles are looking for a few good men on the defensive side of the ball. Green Bay is trying to keep Aaron Kampman in town with a new contract, but if that doesn't get done, the Eagles may ask him about switching the color green that he wears.
The Packers have had ongoing discussions regarding the status of soon-to-be free agent defensive end Aaron Kampman. The Packers feel their defense is an improved unit and want to begin to establish some continuity.
Kampman, while not generally regarded as a pass rushing end, was again a consistent performer for the team in the 2005 season. Green Bay anticipates Kampman will be a high demand if he becomes a free agent on March 3rd.
Team General Manager Ted Thompson regards Kampman as a foundation type player, but is not expected to over-extend in contract talks leading up to the free agent player signing period.
"The Packers have shown they want to keep Aaron (Kampman) and are in talks to see if a deal can be done prior to free agency," a source close to the player said.
The free agent market at the defensive end position is regarded as average heading into the signing period, with New York Jets defensive end John Abraham leading the list at the end position (Abraham was franchised but is available via trade).
With Cleveland Browns defensive end Orpheus Roye agreeing to a contract with the Browns this week, one more highly regarded talent has been removed from the equation.
"Kampman will be sought because he is consistent. The market price at the position may be magnified due to the overall questionable amount of available talent," one agent said. "If there was a time to be a free agent at the end position, this off-season may be as good a time as any."
Hes on my list. I think he played in 91% of the snaps on defense last year.
GET KAMPMAN
Hes not going to get to the QB alot...maybe ever. Hes going to provide a non stop motor, play the run well, collapse the pocket for the DT, and can spell Kearse so he can do other things in the D.
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on March 02, 2006, 01:14:11 AM
Hes not going to get to the QB alot...maybe ever. Hes going to provide a non stop motor, play the run well, collapse the pocket for the DT, and can spell Kearse so he can do other things in the D.
6 1/2 sacks and 105 tackles last year. So, HE DID get to the QB some.
cool...
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on March 02, 2006, 01:14:11 AM
Hes not going to get to the QB alot...maybe ever. Hes going to provide a non stop motor, play the run well, collapse the pocket for the DT, and can spell Kearse so he can do other things in the D.
Agreed, he's still relatively young and is on the incline too. I'd be happy with him at RDE.
eh the birds have enough tweeners on the defensive line...and plenty enough 'non-stop motors'...i want an athletic playmaker...not another hard working lunch pail nd kalu darwin walker type
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2006, 07:50:16 AM
eh the birds have enough tweeners on the defensive line...and plenty enough 'non-stop motors'...i want an athletic playmaker...not another hard working lunch pail nd kalu darwin walker type
Kampman's not really a tweener, he's a solid DE. There's no comparison, he's an upgrade over Kalu or anything else they can throw out there. He'd work well in a rotation, with Cole spelling him on passing downs.
exactly my point...they dont need another rotation guy who will go out every play with his high motor....they need a guy who can come in and start...who will or at least have the potential to make plays and dominate....
people complain that randel el will want to much money...but are gonna pay kampman way bigger bucks than he deserves...hes like 6-4 270 and slow...i dont care what he did last year...the guy is not an every down player but will be paid like one....
Quote...they dont need another rotation guy who will go out every play with his high motor....they need a guy who can come in and start...
Didn't someone say that he played 91% of defensive snaps last season? Doesn't sound like a 'rotation guy' to me. He WOULD rotate in Philly, but if you don't want the DEs to rotate, you'd better start praying for JJ to retire.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2006, 08:16:48 AM
Quote...they dont need another rotation guy who will go out every play with his high motor....they need a guy who can come in and start...
Didn't someone say that he played 91% of defensive snaps last season? Doesn't sound like a 'rotation guy' to me. He WOULD rotate in Philly, but if you don't want the DEs to rotate, you'd better start praying for JJ to retire.
Thanks for saving me the trouble :)
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2006, 08:16:48 AM
Quote...they dont need another rotation guy who will go out every play with his high motor....they need a guy who can come in and start...
Didn't someone say that he played 91% of defensive snaps last season? Doesn't sound like a 'rotation guy' to me. He WOULD rotate in Philly, but if you don't want the DEs to rotate, you'd better start praying for JJ to retire.
Quote
Eagles | Jim Johnson Calls it Quits
Wed, 2 Mar 2006 08:28:49 -0800
Jim Johnson retired today, leaving a big void at defensive coordinator for the Eagles.
RJS=Ownt!
My sources rock, and they
are confidential.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 02, 2006, 08:23:53 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 02, 2006, 08:16:48 AM
Quote...they dont need another rotation guy who will go out every play with his high motor....they need a guy who can come in and start...
Didn't someone say that he played 91% of defensive snaps last season? Doesn't sound like a 'rotation guy' to me. He WOULD rotate in Philly, but if you don't want the DEs to rotate, you'd better start praying for JJ to retire.
Quote
Eagles | Jim Johnson Calls it Quits
Wed, 2 Mar 2006 08:28:49 -0800
Jim Johnson retired today, leaving a big void at defensive coordinator for the Eagles.
RJS=Ownt!
My sources rock, and they are confidential.
:-D
If the defense looks anything like it did last year, it may be time for him to hang'em up.
yeah because everyone starting in the nfl should be
he also played more because of injuries on the packers line
whatever tho....if you want a 6-4 270 DT...knock yourself out
He's a DE. 270 would be a friggin 20 lb upgrade at DE for this team.
Yeah, but a white DE may be a little too close to a white LB for IGY's taste.
i dont want a slow plodding DE who wants big money...they need playmakers...if he was dirt cheap and you were just getting him to replace kalu as a body then fine...but i saw somewhere he wants kyle vandenbosch money....no thanks
(http://images.packers.com/images/headshots/kampman_aaron.jpg)
Well, Vanden Bosh only got a $4.5M SB. That's not too bad.
hes gonna want a little more than that...plus around 3 mil a year in salary
Kearse
Cole
McDougle
Kampman
Draft PIck
I wouldn't be mad if that was our DE group this year.
Quotei dont want a slow plodding DE who wants big money...they need playmakers...if he was dirt cheap and you were just getting him to replace kalu as a body then fine...but i saw somewhere he wants kyle vandenbosch money....no thanks
It isn't about the money, IGY, it's about going out and getting the players available who will help the team and spending whatever you have to to do it. The team owes it to the fans.
It isn't about the money, IGY, it's about oging out and getting the palyers available who will help the team and spending whatever you have to to do it. The team owes it to the fans.
exactly and since kampman isnt that good he wont help the team...no more than say kalu or any other vanilla type rotation guy would
whereas ARE makes them better the minutes hes signed
Your issue was with the money he wants. If you seriously think he's no better than Kalu, fine. But I would strongly disagree with that.
Just noticed Tim Dwight is a UFA. That dude has some wheels, and did well in the return game for the Pats. Wouldn't mind the Birds snatching him up.
Your issue was with the money he wants
yeah because he isnt any good...its not like i think hes gonna get 10 sacks for the eagles but i dont wanna pay him
IGY, name some FA you want. I always see you ripping other peoples choices but I have yet to see you make any calls. Im not around alot, so that may be the case...
Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on March 02, 2006, 03:32:14 PM
IGY, name some FA you want. I always see you ripping other peoples choices but I have yet to see you make any calls. Im not around alot, so that may be the case...
He does prefer to be non-committal, so he's not proven absolutely wrong. He's certainly not hanging on the johnson of anyone this year like he was with Antonio Pierce last year.
id have to see the final list...which is why i havent fully determined who i specifically want
but ive been clear that id have no problem with getting ARE or moulds...i like kalimba edwards...
but until all this cut craziness is over its hard to say
and AJ Hawk right?
the hawk will NEVER die!!!
i don't want hawk either, for no reason other than he's too ugly
QuoteEagles | Team might have interest in M. Anderson
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:14:42 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in free agent RB Mike Anderson (Broncos).
Eagles | Team might have interest in R. Bernard
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:58:08 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in Seattle Seahawks DL Rocky Bernard, who is expected to become a free agent.
Please get Anderson, please get Anderson, please get Anderson....
Rocky Bernard is much more of a pressing need than Anderson IMO.
HELL YEAH! on Anderson :yay
yeah, they might have interest in any FA. fargin lame reports.
At least it's something to get the fans excited. Unless you get a report like:
Andy Reid reports the Philadelphia Eagles will sign Will Witherspoon, Rocky Bernard, and Mike Anderson on the opening day of free agency.
Then this is the only thing we have to go by right now I guess.
QuoteEagles | Team might have interest in J. Alba
Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:02:12 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in free agent Jessica Alba. Despite recent legal troubles, Ms. Alba still retains an ass that any sane, heterosexual male would gladly violate, and a pair of tits that would make the most virtuous husband gladly toss his wife to the curb for.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 03, 2006, 12:07:02 AM
QuoteEagles | Team might have interest in J. Alba
Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:02:12 -0800
The Associated Press reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in free agent Jessica Alba. Despite recent legal troubles, Ms. Alba still retains an ass that any sane, heterosexual male would gladly violate, and a pair of tits that would make the most virtuous husband gladly toss his wife to the curb for.
A farging men.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2006, 03:44:26 PM
id have to see the final list...which is why i havent fully determined who i specifically want
but ive been clear that id have no problem with getting ARE or moulds...i like kalimba edwards...
but until all this cut craziness is over its hard to sayQuote
You like El Interesting. He adds some dynamic to the offense and PR skills but im not going to throw huge dollars him. I dont know enough about Moulds to have an opinion. I know hes been productive but I have heard he has attitude problems and then that he doesnt. Plus hes older on a young team. I dont know what his leadership skills are and how those guys will mesh. Edwards seems to be getting some hype as a pass rusher, but thats about it.
Eagles | Possible landing spot for Garcia
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:34:26 -0800
Bob Brookover, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports the Philadelphia Eagles might have interest in signing Detroit Lions QB Jeff Garcia, who is eligible to become a free agent on March 6.
At least this would continue your recent tradition of having at least one ugly caucasian QB on the roster. :)
The last name would leave me to believe he's hispanic.
Of Spanish origin = still Caucasian
Of Central American origin = Hispanic
I think.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 02, 2006, 09:27:38 PMPlease get Anderson, please get Anderson, please get Anderson....
i'd be ok with an anderson and alba signing, very happy actually.
anderson would be perfect.
and what about fiedler as backup qb? or is garcia looking like the one they'll sign?
Fiedler or Garcia...
Would we rather have a Jew backup or a Gay?
Tough call.
As long as Fiedler's shoulder isn't farged up... I'd take him.
Kitna
Fiedler
McNown
Garthia
That's my wish list. We ain't gettin Kitna, so I would be happy with Fiedler coming back to Philly.
i've just resigned myself to the fact that the backup QB is going to suck no matter what... and if McNabb goes down the ship goes down.
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 10:34:34 AM
i've just resigned myself to the fact that the backup QB is going to suck no matter what... and if McNabb goes down the ship goes down.
Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? ;D
if McNabb goes down the ship goes down
for a long period of time yes...but what if mcnabb goes down for a game or three and they are in the middle of a playoff race...a competant back up qb is key and must be better than mikey mcincomplete
Reid would have to search far and wide to find someone worse than Mike McMahon. Unless he chooses Andy Hall. holler.
Quote from: MURP on March 03, 2006, 10:40:55 AM
Reid would have to search far and wide to find someone worst than Mike McMahon.
You doubting him? ;)
Pretty soon we're gonna have Marty out there in a uniform sucking it up.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2006, 10:37:50 AM
if McNabb goes down the ship goes down
for a long period of time yes...but what if mcnabb goes down for a game or three and they are in the middle of a playoff race...a competant back up qb is key and must be better than mikey mcincomplete
Dude, I would've been elated if Mikey were merely incomplete. He threw for a lot of TDs to the other team.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2006, 10:37:50 AM
if McNabb goes down the ship goes down
for a long period of time yes...but what if mcnabb goes down for a game or three and they are in the middle of a playoff race...a competant back up qb is key and must be better than mikey mcincomplete
whats key is A fargING RUN GAME.
You didn't type "farg".
Personally, I'd rather they had a "bruising" run game or a "productive" run game. A "farging" run game? Not so much.
boy ur a bucket of laughs.
lol
Please ban me, I have nothing to contribute.!!11 lmao1!!!111
Nominating FF for worst post of the year.
again?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 03, 2006, 03:56:06 PM
Nominating FF for worst post of the year.
It's an honor just to be nominated.
QuoteEagles Free Agent Interests Continue To Grow
By Scout.com
Date: Mar 4, 2006
The Eagles may be one of the first teams to strike once free agency finally rolls around. They figure to be very busy very early and make impact moves, spending some of the reported $20 million that they have to manuever with.
As Scout.com first reported earlier this week, the Eagles have interest in New York Jets center Kevin Mawae who has been told he'll be released. Interestingly enough, the Eagles were very interested in signing Mawae during free agency of 1998. Instead, they signed C Steve Everett who was the number one rated offensive lineman in free agency that year.
The team has been compiling a list of available free agent centers and also has their eye on ones that will be released so it's a virtual lock that one of them will be signed.
Recent speculation has turned to New Orleans Saints center LeCharles Bentley who Scout.com reported back at the Super Bowl wouldn't be re-signing with the Saints. There has been some speculation that Bentley could be moved to either tackle or guard.
According to a team source, the Eagles may also make a run at New England Patriots wide receiver David Givens. It may come down to how much money he wants. Most teams view him as a complimentary receiver not a true number one, but more and more, the Eagles are viewing second-year pro Reggie Brown as their number one receiver, so if Givens wants to be paid like a number one, he'll likely be signing elsewhere.
The Eagles are also expected to talk with Antwaan Randle El and would be more likely to give him a bigger paycheck than they would be to Givens.
The newest interest is at a position that the Eagles previously didn't seem to want to pursue. All of the talk was that they would stick with Mike McMahon as their backup to Donovan McNabb, but that may be changing. The Eagles are now looking for a veteran backup quarterback and have their eyes on Jay Fiedler who was recently released by the Jets and Jeff Garcia of the Detroit Lions.
The free agency period was supposed to start on March 3rd, but was pushed back until Monday to give teams time to manuever themselves under the cap and to give negotiators every possible minute to work out a new Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Thank god. What the Eagles need is a big, possesion type of WR to compliment Reggie. Givens is young, and has been getting progressively better each year. He is a big physical guy with excellent hands, and has a decent amount of quickness. With those two on the field and a healthy Pinky, and a Greg Lewis returning to his proper role, the WR corps would be set. They'll also grab a rookie in the draft for sure. The only reason I would take givens more that ARE at this point is I am sure Givens will come cheaper.....probably by a lot. That means the Birds can spend money on other positions as well.
As for the QB rumors, I'd rather have Garcia than Fiedler.
I know punter isn't really a position people talk about or care about, but Dirk Johnson is a free agent and Landeta was shot.
What are we going to do about punter? Draft a young one?
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 04, 2006, 05:33:16 PM
I know punter isn't really a position people talk about or care about, but Dirk Johnson is a free agent and Landeta was shot.
What are we going to do about punter? Draft a young one?
That's what Shawn Barber is for!
Are you sure he could extend his knees in punting formation?
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 04, 2006, 05:33:16 PM
I know punter isn't really a position people talk about or care about, but Dirk Johnson is a free agent and Landeta was shot.
What are we going to do about punter? Draft a young one?
The offered Dirk a tender (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=17961.0), and I doubt they let him go to another team without a bit of a fight.
Info on Givens:
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Agent: Givens' exit just business
By John Tomase
Saturday, March 4, 2006 - Updated: 09:11 AM EST
David Givens appears to be entering his final hours in a Patriots uniform.
Free agency starts at 12:01 a.m. Monday morning and agent Brad Blank yesterday said he has had no contact with the organization since speaking to director of player personnel Scott Pioli following a playoff victory over the Jaguars on Jan. 7.
The Patriots appear willing to let Givens walk, and Blank can't necessarily blame them.
"The Patriots have to make a business decision," Blank said. "The indications and the vibe I'm getting are that they're not going to make an offer. If they give David a lot of money, it's going to impact the salary structure of the rest of their receivers, one in particular. Frankly, if I were the Patriots, I'd do the same thing. I can understand why they wouldn't want to upset that apple cart."
The receiver in question is Deion Branch, Tom Brady's top target and the MVP of Super Bowl XXXIX. He's due just over $1 million in 2006 and could become a free agent next winter.
Considering the Pats have never paid a receiver more than $2.5 million in a season (Troy Brown), it seems unlikely they'd break the bank for Givens this year and Branch next.
"The Patriots have never had a $5 (million) or $6 million receiver," Blank said. "The Colts have three of them."
The most recent is Reggie Wayne, who signed a six-year, $39 million deal last month. Blank said he doesn't view Wayne's contract as any kind of barometer for Givens, because their numbers aren't comparable - Wayne has averaged 80 catches the last two seasons, while Givens has yet to reach 60.
Givens caught 59 passes for 738 yards in 13 games last season, his fourth since the Patriots selected him in the seventh round of the 2002 draft out of Notre Dame. He played for the $1.43 million medium tender.
Givens stacks up quite well against the two remaining marquee free agents on the market: Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle El and Cleveland's Antonio Bryant. The former is well known for his throwing skills, while the latter topped 1,000 yards last year but has had off-field issues.
"They're different players," Blank said. "One's an apple, one's an orange and one's a lemon. My guy's not the lemon."
A number of teams are expected to have interest in Givens, particularly the Browns, who are coached by former Pats defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel, have millions to spend, and are in the market for a wideout.
"We have to get a wide receiver, since there's a possibility that Bryant will go test the free agent market," Crennel said at last week's scouting combine. "We have to get somebody in to replace that production at that spot. If we can get a veteran, that would be good."
Asked if Givens qualified, Crennel smiled. "There are other veteran receivers available, too," he said.
Whatever happens, Blank plans on speaking to the Patriots at least once more.
"Even when David gets an offer, I'm going to call the Patriots and give them a chance to match it," Blank said. "There's nothing wrong with our relationship. David loves New England. If it gets to the point where he goes somewhere else, it will be rough for him to leave, God knows, but there are no hard feelings. This is a business."
Didn't see this posted, but Moulds rejected the Bills second attempt:
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Moulds rejects Bills' second request he take pay cut
Associated Press
Veteran receiver Eric Moulds' future with the Buffalo Bills became more uncertain Thursday after he rejected the team's second request this week to take a pay cut.
"This thing is going nowhere," Moulds' personal adviser, Greg Johnson, told The Associated Press after he and the player's agent, Harry Henderson, held talks with the Bills. "The dollars they're presenting at this particular time are much too low. We're way too far apart to have an intelligent conversation anymore."
Although Johnson expects the Bills to release Moulds, a move that would save the team about $5.5 million in salary cap space, he's not sure when that would happen.
"I think they're going to cut him, but not any time soon," Johnson said.
The Bills were not immediately available for comment. General manager Marv Levy has previously said he is interested in retaining Moulds, a 10-year veteran and Buffalo's senior player who ranks second on the team in several career receiving categories.
Moulds rejected the team's initial request to accept a pay cut on Monday.
Although he didn't provide monetary details of the negotiations, Johnson said the Bills haven't budged from their stance that Moulds accept what he called a significant pay cut.
The Bills were under the salary cap even before the NFL on Thursday pushed back the start of its free agency period to Monday. It was initially scheduled to open on Friday.
Buffalo freed more than $9 million in cap space Wednesday by releasing three veterans, including defensive tackle Sam Adams. Those moves mean the team wouldn't have to release Moulds until adding free agents.
Keeping Moulds, who has two years left on his contract and is scheduled to make $10.85 million next season, would hamper the team's ability to address its more significant needs, particularly on the offensive and defensive lines.
Buffalo already has released offensive lineman Mike Williams and is not expected to re-sign veteran center Trey Teague.
On the other side of the ball, the Bills could be missing two starting defensive tackles after cutting Adams and with Ron Edwards becoming a free agent. Edwards started last year before a season-ending shoulder injury in Week 4.
Other Bills players eligible to become free agents on Monday are: Third-string receiver Josh Reed, backup defensive end Ryan Denney, backup defensive tackle Justin Bannan, backup offensive lineman Greg Jerman, long-snapper Mike Schneck and cornerback Kevin Thomas, who missed all last season with a knee injury.
Fielders parents own this camp called Brookwood. It's really big and they have large baseball fields and competitve sports programs. My camp is the exact opposite. It's full of dead fields that are uneven, not to mention, having nothing but Jews. Still, my little 12 year old team went into Brookwood and beat them down.
Sign Fiedler. I will have a small, small connection to an Eagle.
I used to go to Camp Council as a kid. Summer camp full of Jews coming of age and shtein. The movie Meatballs is especially funny to me to this day.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2006, 01:37:16 PM
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According to a team source, the Eagles may also make a run at New England Patriots wide receiver David Givens. It may come down to how much money he wants. Most teams view him as a complimentary receiver not a true number one, but more and more, the Eagles are viewing second-year pro Reggie Brown as their number one receiver, so if Givens wants to be paid like a number one, he'll likely be signing elsewhere.
The Eagles are also expected to talk with Antwaan Randle El and would be more likely to give him a bigger paycheck than they would be to Givens.
brown/givens/pinkston/lewis/mcmullen/etc = mediocrity at best
but reid has been selling brown as a #1 wr since right around week 12 (even though most of you called me stupid for pointing it out at the time).
get ready for another season without a go-to wr.
Why wouldn't Brown qualify as a go-to receiver in your estimation?
Givens is a very good player and a good physical and situational complement to guys like Pinkston and Lewis. Brown is too unproven to be considered a go-to guy just yet, but he certainly has #1-type skills. Most good #1's need a good complementary #2, and Givens would be OK for that... or at least a lot better than the guys on the team now.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2006, 08:42:52 AM
Why wouldn't Brown qualify as a go-to receiver in your estimation?
why would he? he's never been one on the nfl level. the guy has what, 9 nfl starts under his belt.
if you're a team with super bowl aspirations (the eagles still are, right?), you don't go into the season hoping your 2nd year guy can be the go-to guy...you make sure you have a go-to guy on the roster.
the one year #5 had a stud wr, he put up by far the best season of his career...he obviously benefits from having a go-to wr.
I agree in principle, hunt.
I happen to think that Reggie will be a #1 receiver. Whether that happens in 2006 or 2007 is entirely up to him. Some players have nice rookie years and then fade into oblivion. I don't think Reggie will be one of them.
He'll have an entire training camp to mesh with Donovan (plus any off-season work they do in Arizona as well) and if the Eagles target him as the #1 guy and bring in a guy like Givens to be a 1a-type, I can't see how the receiving corps could be considered "weak."
That said, if Moulds is available and is willing to come to Philly, you definitely take him. A Moulds/Brown tandem could be devastating.
hey, i hope brown develops into the next mike quick...i just don't like going into seasons with a question mark at such an important position on a pass first team.
but andy said they'll run more this year so they should be okay.
i really really want them to get moulds.
Quote from: hunt on March 05, 2006, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 05, 2006, 08:42:52 AM
Why wouldn't Brown qualify as a go-to receiver in your estimation?
why would he? he's never been one on the nfl level. the guy has what, 9 nfl starts under his belt.
if you're a team with super bowl aspirations (the eagles still are, right?), you don't go into the season hoping your 2nd year guy can be the go-to guy...you make sure you have a go-to guy on the roster.
the one year #5 had a stud wr, he put up by far the best season of his career...he obviously benefits from having a go-to wr.
Reggie did most of his stuff without McNabb as the QB. If he can put up numbers with that offense and QBs they had out there last year, what can he do with a good QB? WHat can he do when he's not a rookie anymore?
And Chad Johnson, a 2nd round pick like Reggie (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235222) certainly didn't have any trouble in his 2nd year.
And why can't he produce like another 2nd rounder named Anquan Boldin?
There are a few guys who have produced as the go to guy as 2nd year guys.
Brown
Givens
Pinkston
Draft pick
Lewis
That would be a decent corps. And look at Givens' old team. Who have the Pats used as the go to guy? They have spread it around between Givens, Branch and a bunch of others.
Givens would be a very good signing.
brown had a couple nice games....he's not chad johnson or anquan boldin yet...not even close.
putting up decent numbers in a couple meaningless games isn't enough to convince me he's a #1 on a team with super bowl aspirations.
the pats are the exception, not the rule...they have a qb who excels at reading the field and finding the open receiver.
McNabb excels at not letting go of attacks on his skills in the media. That has to count for something.
I'd take the Pats' receivers over ours right now.
they dont need a clear cut number 1 wr...but they cant have greg lewis and todd pinkston (espcially post achilles rip pinky) in their top three...overall the position needs big time upgrading
id like to be hearing some witherspoon rumblings at this point...i love the bently talk and all but givens garcia ect...isnt doing it for me....what up with the linebackers...wonder if this means going in that direction at 14
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 05, 2006, 04:04:30 PM
wonder if this means going in that direction at 14
I don't see any linebacker worth that pick, save for MAYBE Hawk if he falls that low. MAYBE.
Yeah, if we're sitting at 14... I'd have to think we'd be going Davis or Bunkley (if they're there). I'd almost guarantee it if they snag a DE in FA. There doesn't seem to be a LB out there (outside of Hawk) that would warrant the pick at 14.
there is plenty of LB depth in this draft.
I agree but there are only 2-3 that are being considered 1st rounders... Hawk, Greenway and maybe Ryans. Of those guys... Hawk is the only one guaranteed to be gone before 14. I agree that there's plenty of depth... it's just in the later rounds.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 05, 2006, 05:00:09 PM
I agree but there are only 2-3 that are being considered 1st rounders... Hawk, Greenway and maybe Ryans. Of those guys... Hawk is the only one guaranteed to be gone before 14. I agree that there's plenty of depth... it's just in the later rounds.
Carpenter should be a 1st rounder, but isnt ever recognized as one.
True...
Carpenter at 14 is a mega-stretch, though.
shtein, any other LB other that Hawk (who will be long gone) is a mega-stretch at 14. I think they go with VD if he is there at 14, or improve one of the lines. I am really starting to come around on Chad Jackson/Holmes though if VD is gone though. There will be good backers in the second and third rounds. I, like IGY, would have liked to hear more rumors flying about Witherspoon or Bart Scott out of B-more. Hopefully they have an idea, and that idea doesn't involve Barber and/or McCoy.
As much as I'd like to think Vernon Davis will be there at 14, he won't. Sucks, but true.
Broderick Bunkley is a helluva plan B though...
Bunkley looks like a beast, if VD is there and none of the projected top ten guys drop, take him. Although, like I said....it depends on FA. If they get a good tackle (Rocky), I wouldn't mind one of the WRs terribly, preferably Chad Jackson.
always beware of a Florida WR. ;)
Chad Jackson at 14? Someone's been hitting the drugs hard.
Meh. I should have specified. If they are going to take a WR (Santonio Holmes), I would rather them go with Chad Jackson. puff puff give motherfarger
what is the Eagles official cap room # anyway... and does it include TO or not?
Quote from: MURP on March 05, 2006, 07:25:51 PM
what is the Eagles official cap room # anyway... and does it include TO or not?
$18,787,257 according to http://www.geocities.com/eaglescap/
That is without TO on the cap and with the RFA tenders figured in.
thanks Phreak.
You're welcome. I trust that dude too. He's only 16 and he's always been pretty much spot on.
16?!?! :o
Damn... is that the Eagles' cap number or the total of lunch money he's had beaten out of him?
Yeah, I was shocked too. He's been on WIP twice too. It was funny as hell listening to him pimp smack Angelo and Rhea. He said on the EMB that the first time he went in there and they looked at his page their eyes glossed over and didn't understand jack. :-D
He's 357527somethinorother on the EMB, right?
18 mil IMO isn't enough to sign what we need.
Is it? Could 18 mil afford Bentley, Garcia, Barber, Givens and Howard? - just using those because they are the hot rumors.
Does it also include all the other guys that are most likely getting the axe other than T.O? Like McMahon, Detmer, etc.?
Thanks for the update though....
Quote from: MURP on March 05, 2006, 07:22:12 PM
always beware of a U-Florida WR. ;)
Adjusted. ;)
I'm betting the Birds drop T.O between now and the start of FA. I think they are going to be so aggressive, they are going to want every dollar to sign as many guys at the jump as possible.
Stop hanging around with Skinsfan. It's made you weird.
Does anyone think somewhere down the line the Eagles will sign a FB? This is a very strong FA class for FBs, and they usually are a cheap position to fill.
Strong, Beasley, Richardson, I think are all FAs and those 3 are among the best in football.
Mack Strong or Richardson would be outstanding. I don't even want to get my hopes up about that whole disaster, though. I'll be stunned if Reid makes any effort to upgrade that position. He seems to not notice how much better Westbrook is with a monsterous FB blocking for him...
Normally I would agree with that, but in this offseason so far anything goes. I think the interest in Bentley has a lot to do with Andy wanting to run the football more. I believe him when he says he wants to run it a lot more. I think he got some sense knocked into him. He won't turn into Cowher, but I think the passing will be cut down to 60%.
I'll believe it when I see it. My prediction is that the Eagles have some sort of tweener listed as the official FB in 2006. He'll see about 10% of the offensize snaps and won't carry the ball once.
Mike Anderson = "starting" FB and change-of-pace/2nd RB
Quote from: rjs246 on March 06, 2006, 05:41:09 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. My prediction is that the Eagles have some sort of tweener listed as the official FB in 2006. He'll see about 10% of the offensize snaps and won't carry the ball once.
Awesome.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 06, 2006, 06:15:24 PM
Mike Anderson = "starting" FB and change-of-pace/2nd RB
:drool
NY Newsday (http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spjets0307,0,4109405.story?coll=ny-football-headlines)
QuoteMawae wonders why he was let go
BY KEN BERGER
STAFF WRITER
March 7, 2006
Kevin Mawae was disappointed but not surprised when he learned last week something he'd begun to suspect for some time: The Jets' rebuilding project would not include him.
"I still believe that I'm probably the best guy on the market," Mawae said on a conference call with reporters yesterday, less than 24 hours after the Jets ended his eight-year run as their center.
"I guess people look down on 35-year-old centers who make the Pro Bowl six times."
Agent Mark Bartelstein said it didn't make any sense for Mawae to "go backwards" at this point in his career, a reference to the Jets' decision to start over on offense.
"There's nothing more that I'd love than to retire as a New York Jet," Mawae said. "My name has been known in New York for quite some time and I've been successful here.
" ... It's not about the money, but it's about winning a championship. From this point, I'm going to go to the team that gives me the best chance to win the Super Bowl."
Bartelstein said several teams called yesterday with interest, and one is believed to be the Eagles.
Mawae, regarded as the best center in the NFL for most of his time with the Jets, said he's fully recovered from the torn left triceps that ended his 2005 season.
Though he said he has no regrets and isn't angry, it's telling that a player of Mawae's caliber had only vague conversations with coach Eric Mangini about his future.
"We never talked about my contract," Mawae said. " ... He said he wants smart players willing to do the little things the right way. I thought I would be one of those guys, but I didn't fit in their plans."
Is that guy Stephen Hunter's agent too?
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570529)
QuotePhiladelphia is expected to have an interest in Anderson.
I wonder if the Birds want both Mawae and Bentley....Bentley to guard, and Mawae at center, then Bentley taking over for Mawae once he is older? Doesn't make sense though, Mawae is older than Runyan, and I would think Runyan would be more important that an older center....
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 06, 2006, 10:15:48 PM
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570529)
QuotePhiladelphia is expected to have an interest in Anderson.
I'll repeat :drool :drool
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 06, 2006, 10:15:48 PM
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570529)
QuotePhiladelphia is expected to have an interest in Anderson.
After reading the numerous "Eagles are interested in....." articles these past weeks, I have to wonder whether any of them are based on new facts or just incestuously derived from the speculation of other media members.
While the Bentley story has some legs, others seem to just be copied from other sources. For example, I've only seen mention of the Eagles interest in Anderson in a USAToday article (I could be wrong) that basically just listed about 8 FA's who'd fit what the Eagles needs are. Next day, I saw that evolve into "The Eagles are after Mike Anderson". These articles get the taters all jacked up & when the outcome isn't what they want, they go into a anti-FO seizure.
I won't go into an anti FO mode, but let a guy dream every now and then, you bastich.
While I would be happy as shtein for the Birds to add Anderson, it's just like the deal with Glover. If the Birds had a serious interest, they could just go after him, he was cut, and the FA rules don't apply. I don't think Anderson is coming here unfortunately.
what? I'm sorry I wasn't listening. I was busy hoping Anderson wears number 81 for the eagles so I can just order his nameplate.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on March 06, 2006, 10:50:15 PM
While I would be happy as shtein for the Birds to add Anderson, it's just like the deal with Glover. If the Birds had a serious interest, they could just go after him, he was cut, and the FA rules don't apply. I don't think Anderson is coming here unfortunately.
That's a good point. But on the other hand... the fact that Anderson's still out there can't mean that NO ONE is interested in him can it?
It could mean people want to see what the deal is with the CBA before they make a run at him.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 06, 2006, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 06, 2006, 10:15:48 PM
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3570529)
QuotePhiladelphia is expected to have an interest in Anderson.
After reading the numerous "Eagles are interested in....." articles these past weeks, I have to wonder whether any of them are based on new facts or just incestuously derived from the speculation of other media members.
While the Bentley story has some legs, others seem to just be copied from other sources. For example, I've only seen mention of the Eagles interest in Anderson in a USAToday article (I could be wrong) that basically just listed about 8 FA's who'd fit what the Eagles needs are. Next day, I saw that evolve into "The Eagles are after Mike Anderson". These articles get the taters all jacked up & when the outcome isn't what they want, they go into a anti-FO seizure.
it's all part of the fan's "I wish we could get because he's on a FA wish list", not to mention "intentional" leaking by agents,etc. In fact, I heard that some minivan-driving soccer Dad (Chris something) was gonna be named to the Eagles pep band as their lead singer. :-D
I have to wonder whether any of them are based on new facts or just incestuously derived from the speculation of other media members
its not the based on facts part...
all this pre FA stuff is garbage...i dont know why people get so excited over it...ill admit i was somewhat taken by the bently story at first...but 99.9% of the time i dont even blink until a player comes for a novacare visit
Quote from: dis12 on March 07, 2006, 05:55:57 AM
it's all part of the fan's "I wish we could get because he's on a FA wish list", not to mention "intentional" leaking by agents,etc. In fact, I heard that some minivan-driving soccer Dad (Chris something) was gonna be named to the Eagles pep band as their lead singer.
I heard the same thing but he was described as an incredibly well hung, minivan-driving soccer dad.
Quote from: Philly Forever on March 07, 2006, 12:58:13 AMIt could mean people want to see what the deal is with the CBA before they make a run at him.
ding ding ding
NC says Garcia is also a done deal and a DT will be signed, but not sure which one....
Get Bernard?
is ryan pickett still avaible?...i really like him...would be the run stuffer they need...id rather have that than bernard who is more a pass rushing dt...i also think hed come cheaper
i'd rather haver bernard because they desperately need someone to go after the QB up the middle, that way teams can't concentrate on just the ends
that player is patterson...they dont need three pass rushing dt's...they need a stuffer...especially with hollis gone/sucking
Quotethat player is patterson...they dont need three pass rushing dt's...they need a stuffer...especially with hollis gone/sucking
Exactamundo.
Zip it, Fonzie.
or Jules
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:49:15 AM
NC says Garcia is also a done deal and a DT will be signed, but not sure which one....
Get Bernard?
there was talk of Kendrick Clancy.
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2006, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:49:15 AM
NC says Garcia is also a done deal and a DT will be signed, but not sure which one....
Get Bernard?
there was talk of Kendrick Clancy.
Ah, right. Forgot about that.
Quote from: MURP on March 08, 2006, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 08, 2006, 11:49:15 AM
NC says Garcia is also a done deal and a DT will be signed, but not sure which one....
Get Bernard?
there was talk of Kendrick Clancy.
Buzz kill
A quick DE update from NC: if Howard isn't asking for an outrageous contract, it's a possibility. They also love Trent Cole...
They also love Trent Cole
so do i
in fact i might even heart trent cole
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2006, 02:23:48 PM
in fact i might even heart trent cole
In your own words... STOP
(http://org-www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/FCHCLNIJEBAF/042405-cole2.jpg)
:yay
It's Kearse I am starting to worry about....
Cole and Kearse are both change of pace guys. 'Fastballs' as JJ likes to call them, would it be too much to ask to have a DE who doesn't disappear for weeks at a time between 3-sack performances?
Quote from: rjs246 on March 08, 2006, 02:30:07 PM
Cole and Kearse are both change of pace guys. 'Fastballs' as JJ likes to call them, would it be too much to ask to have a DE who doesn't disappear for weeks at a time between 3-sack performances?
In a word, yes.
That's not fair. You know exactly where McDougle is every week.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 08, 2006, 02:30:07 PM
would it be too much to ask to have a DE who doesn't disappear for weeks at a time between 3-sack performances?
apparantly, yes.
saying yes is the funny thing to do so....yes.
Quote from: General_Failure on March 08, 2006, 02:32:49 PM
That's not fair. You know exactly where McDougle is every week.
Hopefully Andy will consider resistance to small arms fire when he goes searching for his next DE. He won't make that same mistake twice.
NC says mcdougle may have trouble getting thru the novacare metal detectors this year and to not expect a whole lot out of him
;D
"he'll compete", which means "don't expect anything out of yet another first-round bust"
Man, the 2003 draft is full of stinkers. Only somewhat better moves the Eagles could have made instead:
1. still trading up to #15, but getting Polamalu instead
2. trade up a little less and get Larry Johnson
3. stay put or trade down and get Anquan Boldin or Osi Umeniyora
a lot of unremarkable players in 2003 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2003)
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 08, 2006, 02:54:15 PM
3. stay put or trade down and get Anquan Boldin or Osi Umeniyora
that's kinda a big one there.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 08, 2006, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 08, 2006, 02:54:15 PM
3. stay put or trade down and get Anquan Boldin or Osi Umeniyora
that's kinda a big one there.
True, but if you look at all the other players taken around the late 1st/early 2nd, those two are really diamonds in the rough... plus Umeniyora didn't break out at all until last season, when the Eagles really thought McDougle was ready to make his presence known. Well, before he got gunned down, that is.
Yeah, getting gunned down kinda has an effect on your speed off the edge. ;D
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 08, 2006, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 08, 2006, 02:32:49 PM
That's not fair. You know exactly where McDougle is every week.
Hopefully Andy will consider resistance to small firearms when he goes searching for his next DE & won't make that same mistake twice.
so are you trying to say that they wont draft any mor UofMiami or Ohio State (Clarett) players?
I didn't see this anywhere, so....
In regards to the number of FA's they'll sign, Spads says:
QuoteI agree with 3-6, with two costly ones in there ...
Who's the other "costly" one?
"Costly" is a relative term, BrothaMonkey.
:deion
Get Howard, Bernard, Anderson, Bentley, Mawae, Givens
Holy shtein! The EMB just went bonkers.
:-D
The fargin blogs dont help.
That addition to the EMB was brilliant.
QuoteWIP is reporting the birds are talking to Mike Anderson and he could be signed as early as tonight.....can you confirm or deny this?
From some n00b on the EMB. Anyone actually listening to WIP and can at least confirm they reported it, even if you think they're completely full of shtein?
i've been listening for about 10 minutes
haven't heard anything yet
Signing Barber and Mike Anderson before free agency even starts and then Bentley on the first day would be hott.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 12:02:54 PM
Signing Barber and Mike Anderson before free agency even starts and then Bentley on the first day would be hott.
Wood.
WIP is reporting the birds are talking to Mike Anderson and he could be signed as early as tonight.....can you confirm or deny this?
unless this was reported on literally the last update this is way wrong...they have mentioned a couple times about how reports out of denver say the eagles may be interested...same talk you hear on any number of free agents re: the birds
Spew says:
QuoteMike Anderson is not going to happen
That's like the same sentence he used when TO was coming here.
WIP update right now:
still no definite start to FA (they say it still could be 12:01am Friday)
nothing about Mike Anderson
free agency is 12:01am saturday
according to whom?
everyone and anyone whos done any kind of reporting from dallas...book it
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 12:12:32 PM
according to whom?
Mort and Schefter as of this morning.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on March 09, 2006, 12:09:00 PM
Spew says:
QuoteMike Anderson is not going to happen
That's like the same sentence he used when TO was coming here.
I think we can stop using the TO thing to assume that Spads knows nothing. What happened there was that the staff thought TO was too disruptive, but Mohrninweg talked them into it. Dave is non-committal if something is in the works or if he simply doesn't know. He doesn't say "not going to happen" unless he's been told to say so.
yeah, but isnt' that still all speculation on their part. has there been any official release from the NFL?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 12:14:36 PM
yeah, but isnt' that still all speculation on their part. has there been any official release from the NFL?
Just because there hasn't been an **official release** of my jizz into Jessica Alba doesn't mean I don't know it would take under 15 seconds for me to do so if given the opportunity.
honestly, that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. go back to your coloring book.
Don't degrade the man for bringing up Jessica Alba. Any and every opportunity should be taken to do exactly that.
Did you have to wait for the Eagles to be officially out of the playoff race in 2005 before calling it?
that was just his cheap way of getting you to admire one of his posts, you fell for it. sucker
Did you have to hear the Eagles officially announce the signing of Shawn Barber to feel the excitement?
I'm just happy McMullen's got another shot at greatness this year.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on March 09, 2006, 12:21:35 PM
I'm just happy McMullen's got another shot at greatness this year.
Willllllburrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
any update on the official start of free agency? an article on RedZone and all of WIP's updates say 12:01 Friday morning. while Schefter and Mort have been saying 12:01 Saturday.
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 04:40:12 PM
any update on the official start of free agency? an article on RedZone and all of WIP's updates say 12:01 Friday morning. while Schefter and Mort have been saying 12:01 Saturday.
its not tomorrow morning.
i'm seriously not busting stones here, but how do you know for sure?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 04:40:12 PM
any update on the official start of free agency? an article on RedZone and all of WIP's updates say 12:01 Friday morning. while Schefter and Mort have been saying 12:01 Saturday.
12:01 Friday night: aka extreme Saturday morning.
Anyone hear yet when teams need to be in cap compliance?
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 04:44:23 PM
i'm seriously not busting stones here, but how do you know for sure?
because last night and today both NFL Network and ESPN said that it was for sure not going to be on Friday morning.
because last night and today both NFL Network and ESPN said that it was for sure not going to be on Friday morning.
so did eskin...gargano and eckel
WIP needs to change their updates
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 04:48:22 PM
WIP needs to change their updates
you need to stop listening to WIP.
well, yeah. i stop at 3pm. but that doesn't change the fact that i'm scared, alone, and a little hungry.
wip>youre my home
that hurts
Updated top 50 FA's. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2360759&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2)
Guess who now tops the list. 8)
LeCharles?
someone should make that ish a game, see you can predict where everyone will go.
it's all you phatty
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Updated top 50 FA's. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2360759&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2)
Guess who now tops the list. 8)
Get
1. C LeCharles Bentley
2. RB Edgerrin James
3. LB Will Witherspoon
4. LB Julian Peterson
5. QB Drew Brees
6. DE Aaron Kampman
7. PK Adam Vinatieri
8. DT Maake Kemoeatu
9. WR David Givens
10. DT Ryan Pickett
11. LB Willie McGinest(a)
12. OT Jon Runyan
13. PK Mike Vanderjagt
14. DT Gerard Warren
15. DE Anthony Weaver
16. Antwaan Randle El
17. CB Charles Woodson(a)
18. DT Rocky Bernard
19. FS Chris Hope
20. DE/LB Andre Carter
21. RB Jamal Lewis
22. LB David Thornton
23. QB Josh McCown
24. DT Sam Adams(a)
25. OG Stephen Neal
26. OT Kevin Shaffer
27. SS Adam Archuleta
28. PK Ryan Longwell
29. CB Deshea Townsend
30. WR Antonio Bryant
31. OT Jason Fabini(a)
32. CB Sam Madison(a)
33. CB Eric Warfield(a)
34. DE Trevor Pryce(a)
35. DT Larry Tripplett
36. WR Isaac Bruce(a)
37. DE Brett Keisel
38. OT Tom Ashworth
39. WR Koren Robinson(b)
40. RB Chester Taylor
41. SS Corey Chavous
42. WR Joe Jurevicius
43. QB Jon Kitna
44. C Justin Hartwig
45. TE Jeb Putzier(a)
46. SS Marlon McCree
47. CB Ty Law(a)
48. DE Kalimba Edwards
49. DE Lance Johnstone
50. C Kevin Mawae(a)
!!!!!
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
LeCharles?
Nope... LeCharles Bentley.
You were close though. Try not to let this latest failure get you discouraged.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 05:16:45 PM
Get
1. C LeCharles Bentley
3. LB Will Witherspoon
9. WR David Givens
12. OT Jon Runyan
18. DT Rocky Bernard
42. WR Joe Jurevicius
50. C Kevin Mawae(a)
i agree
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Updated top 50 FA's. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2360759&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2)
Guess who now tops the list. 8)
Get
every-damn-body
!!!!!
You stupid, man... :-D
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 05:16:45 PM
Get
1. C LeCharles Bentley
9. WR David Givens
10. DT Ryan Pickett
12. OT Jon Runyan
20. DE/LB Andre Carter
35. DT Larry Tripplett
!!!!!
Better.
you'd rather sign 2 DTs and a DE over instead of one DT and Will Witherspoon?
FF = Barber Lover
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 05:24:17 PM
you'd rather sign 2 DTs and a DE over instead of one DT and Will Witherspoon?
Yes. Bye Hollis. Bye Walker or Rayburn. No more WIL's. Need SAM, and don't see one on that list.
Can we please defrenchify this and refer to him by his american name? Get TheCharles!
i'd prefer to call him FreedomCharles
We gotta toughen that up though. I say we call him TheChuck.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2006, 05:26:45 PM
FF = Barber Lover
FF = realist
Eagles like McCoy and signed Barber. Simoneau is still on the roster, and Dhani is better suited to WIL.
We have a minimum of 4 WIL's on this team already.
Nah, I know. I agree with you with the 63 WIL's we have on the roster thing.
I was just making the same point to a friend of mine at work today.
Give me Darren Howard and Rocky Bernard. Draft Vernon Davis if he's there, if not try to get up for Ngata, if not draft Broderick Bunkley.
You have a defensive line of Kearse, Ngata/Bunkley, Bernard - Patterson and Rayburn for rotation, Howard/Cole.
Then trade for a receiver or sign Givens or someone and we have most of the needs taken care of right there except for RB, SAM and FB. It sounds like a lot, but it's not necessarily unrealistic. The Eagles have the money. The hard part is luring the free agents over, not the spending.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 09, 2006, 05:09:25 PM
Updated top 50 FA's. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2360759&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2)
Guess who now tops the list. 8)
Sam Adam's is pretty surprised to make 24 on that list.
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s2825.jpg)
Either that, or he just Mawae's eyebrows for this first time.
(http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s2826.jpg)
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 09, 2006, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 05:24:17 PM
you'd rather sign 2 DTs and a DE over instead of one DT and Will Witherspoon?
Yes. Bye Hollis. Bye Walker or Rayburn. No more WIL's. Need SAM, and don't see one on that list.
No, bye to Walker or Rayburn. No need to cut one of them.
Walker
Patterson
Rayburn
FA
FA/draft pick
Bam!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2006, 09:14:24 PM
Walker
Patterson
Rayburn
FA
FA/draft pick
Bam!
No. Get Pickett and Tripplett, AND possibly a draft pick.
I like Tripplett or Pickett and Bunkley.
My plan is better.
Quote from: Beermonkey on March 09, 2006, 04:44:42 PM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 09, 2006, 04:40:12 PM
any update on the official start of free agency? an article on RedZone and all of WIP's updates say 12:01 Friday morning. while Schefter and Mort have been saying 12:01 Saturday.
12:01 Friday night: aka extreme Saturday morning.
Anyone hear yet when teams need to be in cap compliance?
nfl.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9293409)
QuoteFree agency, put off twice by the protracted negotiations between the owners and players, now will start at 12:01 a.m. March 10.
thats about 2.5 hours from now
That is the only place that says Friday. And Schefter, an NFL.com/NFL Network shill says 0001 on Saturday.
It'd be cool if it started tonight though
Maybe if the farging NFL would just make the start time say 6 AM or PM or any other time besides 12:01 AM it would be much more clear.
PP54, why would you want Tripplett instead of Bernard? I was never a big fan of Tripplett.
Bernard = big $$$.
I wouldn't mind him. But he's going to cost a lot.
And is he worth stud money?
Everything I've heard was 12:01 Friday. Unless they changed it sometime late last night or today.
you do realize 1201 friday is in 18 minutes?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2006, 11:43:17 PM
you do realize 1201 friday is in 18 minutes?
Yes.
Everything I remember is it getting pushed back from Monday until Thursday at 12:01, but then it getting pushed back one more day to Friday at 12:01 AM.
If it was pushed back again, I didn't read/hear about it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 09, 2006, 11:11:07 PM
Bernard = big $$$.
I wouldn't mind him. But he's going to cost a lot.
And is he worth stud money?
I think that Tripplett may cost not much less than Bernard.
If it was pushed back again
it was
Tripplett was an active beast for Indy last year. He's young and on the upside of his career, too.
When I was watching the Colts' interior line to see how Simon was (or wasn't) doing last year, Tripplett always stood out as the most disruptive force. He was the one drawing double teams more often than not.
His numbers aren't amazing, but I don't think he was even a starter, and he did have 4 sacks. I'm just unimpressed with Bernard... he's not as disruptive play in and play out.
Gimme Tripplett, or Pickett.
Spadaro's latest (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=45571)
Some mildly interesting things:
QuoteFULLBACK
(blah blah - competition between Parry and Tapeh - blah)
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: The best in the business is out there at this moment -- Seattle's Mack Strong. Who knows if he'll actually make it to 12:01 a.m., or how long he'll last after that.
Another big name is Fred Beasley from San Francisco. He's a proven player at the position.
I would love it if the Eagles could snag Mack Strong.
QuoteOFFENSIVE LINE
This is a very interesting situation with a lot of question marks. Jon Runyan is poised to be an unrestricted free agent and the Eagles have made no indication that they want to re-sign him. So if Runyan leaves, there will be a ripple effect up front.
(blah blah - young talent)
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: It's unusual that top-rate talent reaches free agency on the offensive line, but two of the best are out there. LeCharles Bentley has made the Pro Bowl at both guard and center and is an unrestricted free agent. Steve Hutchinson has a transition tag from Seattle and will be tough to pry loose. Atlanta's Kevin Shaffer heads a so-so group of tackles.
Just what we thought here, probably. If Bentley really is added, that's probably it. And Runyan's gone.
QuoteTIGHT END
(L.J. will be the #1 guy, blah blah)
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: Maybe the most attractive name is a player who was released by Denver -- Jeb Putzier. He is looking for a starting job somewhere. Another tight end to consider is Chris Baker, who is more of a blocking tight end.
Chris Baker would be an excellent addition.
QuoteWIDE RECEIVER
(Brown is #1, need to figure out who's #2, etc)
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle-El and New England's David Givens are the best of the bunch and both figure to garner a lot of attention. Veteran Joe Jurevicious is ready to be a free agent as well, but most experts think he'll be back in Seattle for 2006.
I'd be more than happy with either of those guys. Actually would probably prefer Givens.
QuoteDEFENSIVE LINE
DE Trent Cole is a cornerstone of the D line
Second-year men Mike Patterson and Trent Cole are the foundation players here after promising rookie seasons. The Eagles have some players along with the kids, but do they have enough?
etc
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: Some of the big-name ends will get some attention. John Abraham has a franchise tag from the Jets, but he's likely to be traded. Darren Howard had an injury-riddled season for the Saints last year. Aaron Kampman is a priority re-signing by the Packers. Good quality at the top and some solid mid-level ends give this position some oomph in free agency.
No mention of any free agent DT's? Yikes.
QuoteLINEBACKER
(current starters would be Trotter, Jones, and Barber, with McCoy competing and Simoneau a backup)
WHAT THE MARKET BEARS: Julian Peterson and LaVar Arrington are the two biggest names, and Carolina's Will Witherspoon is a quality player. Middle-level players like Ben Leber make this a pretty good group overall.
I just hope that means they actually sign someone else there.
i can't wait for 12:02 so i can complain about the Eagles being cheap
I got you beat.
My bitchin starts at 12:01:01.
Cheap bastiches don't even have any visits announced! Cheap!
cheap! cheap! cheap!
Quote from: Sun_Mo on March 10, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
cheap! cheap! cheap!
(http://lancaster.unl.edu/4h/Images/Embryology/Photos/4_2002/chick1.jpg)
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 10, 2006, 08:09:41 PM
I got you beat.
My bitchin starts at 12:01:01.
Cheap bastiches don't even have any visits announced! Cheap!
don't let that scare you. Eagles never wanna show their hand.
Come on Phreak, you wanna be pleasantly surprised at 12:01:01, dont you?
Anyone want to start a fresh free agency page?
Anybody have the list of Top 50 free agents who havent signed yet? :crazy
:boom