Labinjo and Jackson cut, another LB added (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=37295)
You must be listening to Howard.
QuoteLB MORENO ADDED; LB, DE CUT
October 11, 2005
By BOB KENT
The Eagles made some personnel changes Tuesday, signing linebacker Zeke Moreno to a one-year contract and releasing linebacker Mike Labinjo and defensive end Alonzo Jackson.
A five-year veteran, the 6-foot-2, 246-pound Moreno amassed 141 tackles and 3 sacks in four seasons as a member of the San Diego Chargers. His best season came in 2003, when he started 12 games at middle linebacker and posted career highs in tackles (95) and sacks (2).
The 26-year-old Moreno signed with the Houston Texans this past offseason, but was released prior to the start of the regular season.
A fifth-round draft choice out of USC in 2001, Moreno was a two-time All-Pac 10 Conference selection and was named MVP as the team's captain during his senior season.
The Chula Vista, CA, native attended Castle Park High School in San Diego, CA, and earned defensive MVP and All-CIF San Diego honors as a senior.
Moreno will wear jersey number 50.
I guess Moreno is a good STs player...
And I guess we'll see McCants signed again soon? Or they cut Jackson because it's almost McDougle time.
Just checkin...Howard mentioned and 30 seconds later it was posted.
Anyway...does anyone have and feelings about Moreno? Is he good for the system? Is he just gonna sit on the bench?
I recall a some weeks back Spadz was talking about PUP guys who could come back and contribute. McDougle wasn't the first name he mentioned...it was Greg Richmond.
:'(
Couldn't tell you much about him.
All's I know is that this is exactly like 2002.
During the BYE in 2002 they cut Quentin Caver and signed Keith Adams when the STs units were struggling.
Now they do pretty much the same thing. This is to help the coverage units, IMO.
I also expect to se Matt McCoy activated.
All I know about Moreno is that he's from USC, he's smart, but kinda slow of foot.
wow. never saw that coming. I remember watching Moreno when he was at USC. Guess Labinjo must have really sucked at ST's to be toast.
I think it's important to note that 'Zeke' is a more manly-sounding nickname for 'Isaac' than is 'Sack'.
It finally gives Labinjo his chance to DOMINATE the CFL.
Quote from: Larry on October 11, 2005, 03:54:15 PM
I recall a some weeks back Spadz was talking about PUP guys who could come back and contribute. McDougle wasn't the first name he mentioned...it was Greg Richmond.
Well, McDougle is coming back if they cut Jackson. Now they're back down to 4 DEs.
Let's see if this would work...
QBs (3) - McNabb, Detmer, McMahon
RBs (4) - Westbrook, Gordon, Mahe, Moats
FB (1) - Parry
WRs (5) - Owens, Lewis, Brown, McMullen, McCants
OL (9) - Thomas, Hicks, Fraley, Andrews, Runyan, Clarke, Darilek, Armstrong, Herremans
DEs (5) - Kearse, Kalu, Cole, McDougle, Thomas
DTs (5) - Walker, Patterson, Thomas, Rayburn, Marshall
LBs [8] - Jones, Adams, Trotter, Moreno, Richmond, McCoy, Simoneau, Short
CBs (5) - Sheppard, Brown, Ware, Hood, Wynn
Ss (4) - Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
Ks (2) - Akers, France
P (1) - Diggler
Total - 52
Did I leave anyone out?
off topic, but did alonzo jackson have dreadlocks? I think Dgunn interviewed him after a game and i didnt know if it was him or not.
Wish you'd leave out Mahe.
I wish I could leave him off too, Z. But the Mighty Mormon has immunity on Survivor: South Philly.
I don't think he did, MURP.
Quote from: MURP on October 11, 2005, 04:04:25 PM
off topic, but did alonzo jackson have dreadlocks? I think Dgunn interviewed him after a game and i didnt know if it was him or not.
Alonzo Jackson's bald according to his Steelers headshot at the beginning of the year
Yeah, him too.
Bring back cecil Martin!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 11, 2005, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: Larry on October 11, 2005, 03:54:15 PM
I recall a some weeks back Spadz was talking about PUP guys who could come back and contribute. McDougle wasn't the first name he mentioned...it was Greg Richmond.
Well, McDougle is coming back if they cut Jackson. Now they're back down to 4 DEs.
Let's see if this would work...
QBs (3) - McNabb, Detmer, McMahon
RBs (4) - Westbrook, Gordon, Mahe, Gordon
FB (1) - Parry
WRs (5) - Owens, Lewis, Brown, McMullen, McCants
OL (9) - Thomas, Hicks, Fraley, Andrews, Runyan, Clarke, Darilek, Armstrong, Herremans
DEs (5) - Kearse, Kalu, Cole, McDougle, Thomas
DTs (5) - Walker, Patterson, Thomas, Rayburn, Marshall
LBs (9) - Jones, Adams, Trotter, Moreno, Richmond, McCoy, Simoneau, Short, Richmond
CBs (5) - Sheppard, Brown, Ware, Hood, Wynn
Ss (4) - Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
Ks (2) - Akers, France
P (1) - Diggler
Total - 53
Did I leave anyone out?
Is Gordon supposed to be on there twice, or do you want to fight?
I'll fight. Anytime, Nancy.
But I did that twice. I put Gordon on there instead of Moats and put down Richmond twice too.
So they should have 8 LBs and that woud leave them with 52 spots and 1 left to fill.
And I guess we'll see McCants signed again soon? Or they cut Jackson because it's almost McDougle time.
they might need a spot for another qb depending on mcmahons status
Yea definatley a ST move.
There's also only 6 on the practice squad.
it was fairly obvious that la-banjo wasnt very good.
the ST's were barely on life support recently
Labinjo f'n sucked. Finally he's gone.
Labinjo f'n sucked
labinjo is from toronto
need i say more
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2005, 04:23:29 PM
And I guess we'll see McCants signed again soon? Or they cut Jackson because it's almost McDougle time.
they might need a spot for another qb depending on mcmahons status
They'd still have that spot if they need to sign s QB.
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal, right IGY?
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 11, 2005, 04:34:04 PM
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal, right IGY?
Better than honkey ass crackers.
Well I totally sucked on that one. That's what I get for doing it so damn fast. My apologies. Let me try this again....
QBs (3) - McNabb, Detmer, McMahon
RBs (4) - Westbrook, Gordon, Mahe, Moats
FB (1) - Parry
WRs (5) - Owens, Lewis, Brown, McMullen, McCants
TEs (3) - Smith, Spach, Bartrum
OL (9) - Thomas, Hicks, Fraley, Andrews, Runyan, Clarke, Darilek, Armstrong, Herremans
DEs (5) - Kearse, Kalu, Cole, McDougle, Thomas
DTs (5) - Walker, Patterson, Thomas, Rayburn, Marshall
LBs [8] - Jones, Adams, Trotter, Moreno, McCoy, Simoneau, Short, Richmond
CBs (5) - Sheppard, Brown, Ware, Hood, Wynn
Ss (4) - Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine
Ks (2) - Akers, France
P (1) - Diggler
Total - 55
Ok, so there would have to be two more people cut. Would Andy consider going with 4 WRs? Maybe activating Richmond and not re-signing McCants? Would he bring McCants back when Akers is ready to kick? Would he please cut Reno Mahe or Josh Parry?
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 11, 2005, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 11, 2005, 04:34:04 PM
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal, right IGY?
Better than honkey ass crackers.
Urlacher will pretend he didn't hear that.
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal
being from canada easily cancels that out
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2005, 04:39:54 PM
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal
being from canada easily cancels that out
Amen to that. Goddamned snow-mexicans.
birds cut Parry who do they bring in at FB? Obviously Richtie was more beat up than we all thought or no way AR releases him.
Maybe Ritchie is healed up by now?
Quote from: Avenger on October 11, 2005, 04:51:57 PM
Maybe Ritchie is healed up by now?
Dubious logic I know, but maybe if he's healed up, someone else would have grabbed him?
That's possible, but how many teams out there don't like their FB situation 5 weeks in besides us? Ritchie is different here because he knows the offense. Signing a questionably healthy FB 5 weeks in where he has to learn a new system isn't likely.
I'm still in lala land regarding why the cut Ritchie. Isn't a coma Ritchie better than Parry?
I hope Parry sucked at ST's and Ritchie was a beast so they can cut Parry and sign my man Jon.
Didn't Ritchie have a workout scheduled with Cinci but he declined?
I remember one of the reasons he wanted to come the the Eagles was bc his family was close by. Legit close by and not Hugh Douglas to Jax my family is in Atlanta (?) close by. Maybe he doesn't want to move again and likes being near his family?
Even an one-legged blind Ritchie is better than the stumbling, bumbling no talent assclown Josh Parry
I don't think Josh Parry has ever caught a pass without falling down on his own. His limit is about 3 yards before he stumbles on his own feet and just slips down.
I just thought about something.
Does this make Mrs. Simasuck now the backup MLB?
I had an argument a few years back with a Chargers fan who said Zeke was better than Trotter :-D He's decent but nothing great. His brother is Moses Moreno was also drafted by the Chargers and played QB.
Quote from: TO is GOD on October 11, 2005, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 11, 2005, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 11, 2005, 04:34:04 PM
I thought all dark-skinned LB's were the real deal, right IGY?
Better than honkey ass crackers.
Urlacher will pretend he didn't hear that.
Urlacher can't even read it.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 11, 2005, 05:14:16 PM
His brother is Moses Moreno was also drafted by the Chargers and played QB.
that's hilarious! The first thing i thought of when i read Zeke's name was Moses. He was originally drafted by the Bears in the 7th round (1998). Just another crappy quarterback who made his rounds in the Windy City.
Had nothing to do with Labinjo's ability, according to Trotter.
He was late to meetings, had discipline problems. Trotter had talked to him NUMEROUS times about shaping up but it didn't work. He said that when starters like Adams were out there on ST taking his place, he knew Labinjo was gone. He wasn't surprised at all, but that its mind boggling to him how a guy given a chance like Labinjo was, could come in and not work hard, take notes in meetings, show an eagerness to succeed.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 06:48:17 PM
Had nothing to do with Labinjo's ability, according to Trotter.
That's a shock considering he flat out sucked ass this year.
Just saw the picture of Moreno, Brusci Jr. Hopefully in playing ability as well.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 06:48:17 PM
Had nothing to do with Labinjo's ability, according to Trotter.
He was late to meetings, had discipline problems. Trotter had talked to him NUMEROUS times about shaping up but it didn't work. He said that when starters like Adams were out there on ST taking his place, he knew Labinjo was gone. He wasn't surprised at all, but that its mind boggling to him how a guy given a chance like Labinjo was, could come in and not work hard, take notes in meetings, show an eagerness to succeed.
Uh, when are people going to accept and realize that the vast majority of professional athletes are complete idiots. Dumber than a bag of dirt. I have trouble comprehending the stupidity of some of these people and yet in spite of the constant barrage of evidence we're still surprised when we hear that a marginally talented dude was given a chance and didn't do the little effort things to take advantage. farging pathetic.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 11, 2005, 08:08:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 06:48:17 PM
Had nothing to do with Labinjo's ability, according to Trotter.
That's a shock considering he flat out sucked ass this year.
He had the ability and talent, but he didn't use his head to maximize it.
He sucked ass this year and that is the bottom line.
Anyone remember this thread? :boo (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=15318.0)
SD, he was replaced on ST by Keith Adams and other players because of his off-field stuff. He didn't play enough to say he sucked ass. And don't give me week one when he was thrown into the starting role at MLB 10 minutes before the game due to the Trotter ejection.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 09:40:14 PM
SD, he was replaced on ST by Keith Adams and other players because of his off-field stuff. He didn't play enough to say he sucked ass. And don't give me week one when he was thrown into the starting role at MLB 10 minutes before the game due to the Trotter ejection.
Everytime he was in the game he was either on his ass or out of postion. Can't recall him making a play on Special Teams this season, so yes, he sucked ass. He obviously didn't appreciate his roster spot so I'm glad it was given to someone else.
He forced the critical fumble on Hall. That was the one ST play he made. He usually always gets some type of penalty on him or just plays terrible. This move alone regardless won't fix the special teams. The unit as a whole isn't tackling well and they are over-persuing.
If Labinjo had talent, he would still be here.
he doesn't, so he's gone.
Does anyone believe that if Trotter would show up late to practice he would be cut? Of course not. Big Red would be mad, but Trotter has talent. Obviously Labinjo was expendable because he wasn't very talented.
I think he does have talent otherwise he simply wouldn't have made it as far as he has. There was a lot of buzz about him after last year. He was fantastic in preseason and showed a lot of promise. Obviously he just doesn't have the desire to try and improve himself as a player or contribute to the team. That is why he got cut. Talent has nothing to do with it. Mahe and McMullen are still on the roster. Why? Because they show up to work on time and do what they're supposed to do.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 11, 2005, 11:08:26 PM
I think he does have talent otherwise he simply wouldn't have made it as far as he has. There was a lot of buzz about him after last year. He was fantastic in preseason and showed a lot of promise. Obviously he just doesn't have the desire to try and improve himself as a player or contribute to the team. That is why he got cut. Talent has nothing to do with it. Mahe and McMullen are still on the roster. Why? Because they show up to work on time and do what they're supposed to do.
Because they show up to work on time and
try to do what they're supposed to do.
No, they do what they're supposed to do. They might not do it well. But they do it none the less.
FYI...
Labinjo missed or was late to several team meetings. Last one....was last week (apparently that was the straw that broke the camel's back.) He also had "conditioning" problems. Don't ask me how I know, but I do know this. He wasn't cut because they were unhappy with his play only, but because he just wasn't cutting it off the field. It's a shame, he's a super nice guy.
Also, I'm not sure if Greg Richmond is able to go yet. He's still recovering from back surgery.
Hmmm... how do you know this?
Quote from: Whada_F on October 12, 2005, 01:09:57 AM
FYI...
Labinjo missed or was late to several team meetings. Last one....was last week (apparently that was the straw that broke the camel's back.) He also had "conditioning" problems. Don't ask me how I know, but I do know this. He wasn't cut because they were unhappy with his play only, but because he just wasn't cutting it off the field. It's a shame, he's a super nice guy.
Also, I'm not sure if Greg Richmond is able to go yet. He's still recovering from back surgery.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 06:48:17 PM
Had nothing to do with Labinjo's ability, according to Trotter.
He was late to meetings, had discipline problems. Trotter had talked to him NUMEROUS times about shaping up but it didn't work. He said that when starters like Adams were out there on ST taking his place, he knew Labinjo was gone. He wasn't surprised at all, but that its mind boggling to him how a guy given a chance like Labinjo was, could come in and not work hard, take notes in meetings, show an eagerness to succeed.
Thanks for the update.
Trot did say that his release was partly performance related too. He said something like "when they're pulling you out and putting starters in there to cover kicks, the one thing that is you main job, you should know yourtime is up".
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2005, 09:40:14 PM
SD, he was replaced on ST by Keith Adams and other players because of his off-field stuff. He didn't play enough to say he sucked ass. And don't give me week one when he was thrown into the starting role at MLB 10 minutes before the game due to the Trotter ejection.
reid doesnt cut good players when they do bad things.
ask monty montgomery and correll buckhalter.
Labinjo missed or was late to several team meetings. Last one....was last week
with the return of hockey you can understand why his mind might not have been 100% on football
i agree that he was cut because he stinks...he could have rolled a blunt on andys desk and blown the smoke from his first pull into reids face and if he was talented he would have stayed
QuoteEagles moves made to aid special teams
Wednesday, October 12, 2005
By NICK FIERRO
In the grand scope of the NFL landscape, they were rather small moves, but significant ones nonetheless. And they probably won't be the last for the Eagles this week.
The team yesterday released linebacker Mike Labinjo and defensive end Alonzo Jackson and signed free agent linebacker Zeke Moreno.
Moreno, cut by the Houston Texans in training camp this season, has more experience than Labinjo and Jackson combined, having spent the previous four seasons with the San Diego Chargers.
No comment was available yesterday from coach Andy Reid, but the roster moves almost certainly were made in an attempt to improve the team's sagging special teams play, especially their kick- and punt-coverage units.
One of the top priorities for the staff is fixing the ghastly play of the special teams before the Eagles return from their bye week to host the San Diego Chargers on Oct. 23.
"I have met with coach (special teams coordinator John) Harbaugh," Moreno said. "He has no certain position for me yet, but he said I would be playing special teams. I'm really looking forward to it.
"My first two seasons (in San Diego), I was second on the team in special teams tackles, then I became a starter and didn't play special teams much my third year."
Moreno especially was excited that his phone rang Monday, on his 27th birthday, with the good news.
"They called my agent and my agent called me," he said. "I had a big lunch planned with my family (in San Diego). Unfortunately I had to skip that, but I know they felt good for me."
Working out at home near San Diego and trying to stay in shape since being released by Houston, Moreno admitted the last year-and-a-half has been a grind. He missed most of the second half of last season with a shoulder injury that landed him on the injured reserve list, then suffered a hairline fracture in his fibula early in camp this year.
"Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to show what I was capable of," Moreno said. "But like I said earlier, it was a blessing in disguise. I worked out today and felt great. I'm so excited."
Moreno also was a productive starting middle linebacker for a while in San Diego, where he compiled 96 tackles and two sacks in 2003.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 12, 2005, 07:53:13 AM
Trot did say that his release was partly performance related too. He said something like "when they're pulling you out and putting starters in there to cover kicks, the one thing that is you main job, you should know yourtime is up".
I know, I said that. But he said it as if they were pulling him out BECAUSE of his off-field problems and his tendency to not want to work at the little things.
Are we still talking about this?
Quote from: rjs246 on October 12, 2005, 08:37:10 AM
Are we still talking about this?
For your daily taste of your own medicine:
Wah. ;)
Hey, did anybody hear that it wasn't about Labinjo's play on the field? It was really about his off the field antics, such as not showing up for meetings on time and so forth. Did anyone hear that yet? :P
This isn't big news. (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=37363)
Quote from: rjs246 on October 12, 2005, 11:54:15 AM
This isn't big news. (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=37363)
Let's celebrate with a poem (http://www.darnerienmccants.com/commerce/mywords/mywords.asp)
that poem is sad...all i can say to darnerian is buddy it could be worse...you could be a rb
I usE to think thAt i could not Go on, and LifE waS just an awful song
i wasn't sure where to post this but is anyone else less than impressed with keith adams so far?
i remember a few people on here talking about how his deal should be extended...and i'm glad it wasn't. the adams/sims combo was a weakness coming into this season & it still is, imo. in fact, i'm seeing more & more of sims on the field lately. :paranoid
i wasn't sure where to post this but is anyone else less than impressed with keith adams so far?
i remember a few people on here talking about how his deal should be extended...and i'm glad it wasn't. the adams/sims combo was a weakness coming into this season & it still is, imo. in fact, i'm seeing more & more of sims on the field lately
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14521.40
Quote from: mhunt on October 14, 2005, 12:53:30 PM
i wasn't sure where to post this but is anyone else less than impressed with keith adams so far?
i remember a few people on here talking about how his deal should be extended...and i'm glad it wasn't. the adams/sims combo was a weakness coming into this season & it still is, imo. in fact, i'm seeing more & more of sims on the field lately. :paranoid
while picking two players for my preseason bust list predicion, he would have been one of them had people not been freaking out about how Reggie Brown was going to be the greatest receiver ever. Had i not included him, it would have been Dhani & Keith.
damn linebackers!
Wouldn't the entire defense qualify as a bust at this point?
Oh no, Dawkins and Trotter are infallible.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 14, 2005, 01:43:44 PM
Wouldn't the entire defense qualify as a bust at this point?
There are a few guys that have played well in my book: Patterson, Fat Hollis (!), Dawkins and Sheldon Brown. Cole has also showed promise as a rookie.