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Title: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2005, 04:30:17 AM
Full article (http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/11278087029170.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)

QuoteReid would not put a timetable on Akers' return. But it is very safe to assume he won't kick Oct. 9 against Dallas, and then the team has a bye the following week. The next game you could see Akers is Oct. 23 at home against San Diego, but even that might be pushing it.

"It's killing him to miss games," Akers' agent, Gerold Colton, said. "But he feels better in light of what happened Sunday.

"Right now, he's in serious pain. But you know David, he'll work hard and he'll be back as soon as he can."

In the meantime, Reid must decide on a roster move to get practice squad kicker Todd France onto the 53-man roster.

"We'll do that down the road," Reid said.

The Eagles have until Saturday to make the move with France, and the likely decision is to waive undrafted rookie safety Jeremy Thornburg and try to get him on the practice squad after he clears waivers. Another lesser possibility would be to come up with an injury for rookie linebacker Matt McCoy and put him on injured reserve.

QuoteWalker injured his thigh during Friday's practice when he took a helmet to the area. He finished practice, but felt worse Saturday.

"There's swelling, bleeding," Reid said. "It was a freak thing. He'll miss this week at the least."
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: satoshi on September 27, 2005, 05:50:01 AM
Simoneau time? :paranoid
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on September 27, 2005, 07:26:31 AM
Reid had already told everyone about Walker at the PC yesterday. No surprise.

Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on September 27, 2005, 08:00:31 AM
not so good that McCoy can't even contribute on special teams.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Beermonkey on September 27, 2005, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 27, 2005, 08:00:31 AM
not so good that McCoy can't even contribute on special teams.
Not so good that he's injured or not so good that he sucks?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on September 27, 2005, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 27, 2005, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: Sun_Mo on September 27, 2005, 08:00:31 AM
not so good that McCoy can't even contribute on special teams.
Not so good that he's injured or not so good that he sucks?

well, he's not injured
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Larry on September 27, 2005, 09:28:23 AM
Does Walker wear thigh pads?  Coaches usually get on a player if they suffer this type of injury due to not wearing adequate protection.

It's disappointing that McCoy can't get onto the active roster.  Kirk Morrison, McCoy's teammate at San Diego St. (who was picked later incidentally), was starting for the Raiders.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: phattymatty on September 27, 2005, 09:28:57 AM
I heard Carlos Perez is a good kicker.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:32:46 AM
when will heads realize that about 1/100 white linebackers are players...and about 1/1000 are big time players....if you want to draft one for special teams thats fine but dont do it in the second round...that was ridiculously high for him

watch aj hawk next year go in the top ten and be one of the bigger busts in quite a while
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: BobbyT on September 27, 2005, 09:33:41 AM
France was perfect for the Bucs in the preseason and almost beat Bryant out.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on September 27, 2005, 09:39:06 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:32:46 AM

watch aj hawk next year go in the top ten and be one of the bigger busts in quite a while

Katzenmoyer comes to mind
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: rjs246 on September 27, 2005, 09:41:40 AM
White people totally suck at linebacker. Way too much whiteness to be able to tackle  and plug the gap. We're so lame.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on September 27, 2005, 09:42:35 AM
yeah the Patriots LB's were the worst in the NFL for years now.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Larry on September 27, 2005, 09:44:53 AM
I wonder if McCoy's done something to piss off Eckel.

Eckel was the first one to suggest that McCoy may be a bust--and that's was in preseason.

Now to suggest that Reid come up with some fake injury to stash an otherwise useless player...I'd take that as a backhanded insult.  :-D
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM
yeah the Patriots LB's were the worst in the NFL for years now


thats the system...not the players...teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most teams

there are exceptions to the rule...zach thomas comes to mind...but they are few and far btwn...bottom line rule is dont draft a white linebacker until at minimum third round

Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: phattymatty on September 27, 2005, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM
teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most teams

especially now
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on September 27, 2005, 10:00:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM



thats the system...not the players...teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most team

yeah, and Ray Lewis is half the LB the media paints him as unless he has 900 lbs of DT playing in front of him. 
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Zanshin on September 27, 2005, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM
yeah the Patriots LB's were the worst in the NFL for years now


thats the system...not the players...teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most teams

there are exceptions to the rule...zach thomas comes to mind...but they are few and far btwn...bottom line rule is dont draft a white linebacker until at minimum third round



That's laughably racist and retarded.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: RezRob on September 27, 2005, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM
thats the system...not the players...teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most teams

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in this forum. Or it's sarcasm and I've been duped liked PG.  ::)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 11:25:44 AM
bruschi is a nice player but hes been horribly overblown by the media during the pats superbowl run
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on September 27, 2005, 11:27:36 AM
lol, whatever. 
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: hunt on September 27, 2005, 12:15:03 PM
down with whitey! :boo
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Wingspan on September 27, 2005, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: MURP on September 27, 2005, 09:42:35 AM
yeah the Patriots LB's were the worst in the NFL for years now.

you lika-a-da-juice?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Father Demon on September 27, 2005, 12:21:49 PM
I've said it for years.  White people have no business in sports, unless it's as the owner.

About time somebody else has come around to my way of thinking.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on September 27, 2005, 12:27:12 PM
Quote from: DemonchildrenOnTurf on September 27, 2005, 12:21:49 PM
I've said it for years.  White people have no business in sports, unless it's as the owner.

About time somebody else has come around to my way of thinking.

somebody has to quarterback teams to Super Bowl wins
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 12:36:25 PM
I've said it for years.  White people have no business in sports, unless it's as the owner.

About time somebody else has come around to my way of thinking.


no just linebackers for the most part...and only pro linebackers


if you rid all sports of whitey what happens to all the 40 yr old lefty relievers
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: JTrotter Fan on September 27, 2005, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 12:36:25 PM
I've said it for years.  White people have no business in sports, unless it's as the owner.

About time somebody else has come around to my way of thinking.


no just linebackers for the most part...and only pro linebackers


if you rid all sports of whitey what happens to all the 40 yr old lefty relievers

White people love Wayne Brady...because he makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/dawkinsdarthcore/waynebrady.jpg)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: 4and26 on September 27, 2005, 01:40:07 PM
There was talk of extending Akers contract.       So how does his injury change all of this?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: phattymatty on September 27, 2005, 01:41:56 PM
I don't even know why we have a K on the roster.  He's just taking up space which we could use for more important people.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Wingspan on September 27, 2005, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on September 27, 2005, 01:40:07 PM
There was talk of extending Akers contract.       So how does his injury change all of this?

if he fully recovers, i beleive that it wont change the feelings of the eagles in regards to his long term status. but akers wasnt "akers" before the injury, he'd missed 3 FGs in 2 games.

that being said, a kicker with a hammy problem is something that i am concerned about long term and really wont be worry free about it until akers recovers, and gets back on track.

Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: mikey418 on September 27, 2005, 01:53:02 PM
I just want the Birds to resign Westbrook, M. Lewis, and Akers...in that order.  After that I could care less....but I think Rod Hood may be in line too for a new deal.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 01:53:37 PM
There was talk of extending Akers contract.       So how does his injury change all of this?

screw akers...hes a kicker...and hes got multiple years left on his deal...kickers lose it with the quickness too..and often without any warning

he plays out his deal whether he likes it or not
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 27, 2005, 01:58:18 PM
I agree.  It would be a nice gesture for the Eagles to give Akers a raise, but a really stupid business decision.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Larry on September 27, 2005, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: mikey418 on September 27, 2005, 01:53:02 PM
I just want the Birds to resign Westbrook, M. Lewis, and Akers...in that order.  After that I could care less....but I think Rod Hood may be in line too for a new deal.

no LJ?  or is there a fumble clause?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 12:18:19 AM
Obviously take this for what it's worth, but I got this from the EMB:

Quotei was listening to the akers and runyan show on 92.5 about an hour ago. Akers said he got a third opinion and he tore a tendon halfway off his pelvic bone. He would not be specific about when he would be back but did say it would be several games. he was asked if he would be back after the bye and he said nope. He was asked if he would be back when the eagles play in the super bowl and he said if they keep me around. The way he was talking it sounds like he is expecting to be IR'd. He also made a comment about the NFL being the not for long league, and another comment about it being a what have you done for me lately league. Sounding like he may not be around much longer.

If that is true, we'll find out about it tomorrow or Wednesday. But I sure hope it's not. The only good thing is that once France got in a groove he looked OK.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 12:26:25 AM
Well if it helps, Akers really didnt make or break anything last year in the playoffs. He did the year before against Green Bay, but not last year.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on October 04, 2005, 12:33:09 AM
if he is out than so be it.. Just get it the nonsense over with already.  If France is the guy lets have it.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 12:43:28 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2005, 12:26:25 AM
Well if it helps, Akers really didnt make or break anything last year in the playoffs. He did the year before against Green Bay, but not last year.

Still...the playoffs are a different beast. What if Viva La France nuts up in the playoffs when we need him?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 12:50:40 AM
Messes up how? I think it's way too early to worry about him messing up. If he's missing 30 yarders left and right over the next few weeks then it's a concern, but so far he looks pretty quality to me. I mean all kickers basically kick over 50% anyway, so statistically if you need a kick the chances are they make it. Unless it's like 50+ yards, and even then it's no guarantee anyone even Akers makes it.

Another thing is, Akers wasn't exactly in his pro bowl caliber form this year anyway. Yes, I know it was only a funk, but who knows how long it would've lasted?

It's not like Akers was a monumental difference between kickers like Jay Feely or whoever else. Akers is better, but it's not like comparing a star WR to a middle of the pack WR. There are some really bad kickers out there, but for the most part the dropoff is not devastating from Akers to France.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 12:52:37 AM
I would not underestimate the loss of Akers if this is true. I hope it doesn't bit 'em in the ass in the long run like losing Westbrook did in 2003.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 12:55:51 AM
We shall see. I have a hunch Akers will be able to kick (I are samrt) at some point this year. Andy also knows how valuble Akers is, and if he can return at some point, I don't see why they would put him on IR. But maybe this Todd France character is good, who knows. He's still better than the dopes the Cowpukes and Gibbs have kicking for them.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 12:57:16 AM
Even if say France does miss a big-time FG in the playoffs. There is no guarantee Akers would've made it anyway. We'd assume, but we'd never know. Especially since the way Akers started out the season.

Other injuries like Westbrook is a guarantee that it hurt us though. It's fact that they prepare differently when he's not out there.

I'm not going to downplay it. He's the best kicker in football IMO, but it's not even close to losing Westbrook. The dropoff from Westbrook to Buck/Staley in that game was HUGE. France is only asked to do two things: Kickoffs and FGs. There is only one way to do them, you either kick long/accurate kickoffs or short/inaccurate and you either make the FGs or you miss them. Westbrook factors into everything. Kickers don't even get a chance to attempty FGs if you can't move the football.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:03:35 AM
Obviously it isn't exactly the same as losing Westbrook, but I compared it because Akers is a weapon. I think a lot of us took him for granted over the years. I never worried about him coming in to kick in the clutch.

His early struggles weren't that bad. He would've straightned it out. He's too good not to have fixed it.

All's I'm saying is if he is indeed out for the year...he's going to be missed.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 01:05:27 AM
Well of course he'll be missed, I don't think one person here would argue that. I'm just saying if he's done for the season it's not exactly panic time either. I'm not implying you said you would panic, I'm just giving my take.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on October 04, 2005, 01:05:44 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2005, 04:30:17 AM
Another lesser possibility would be to come up with an injury for rookie linebacker Matt McCoy and put him on injured reserve.



did that just say they should invent an injury for McCoy?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 01:09:21 AM
How about Mahe. He sucks.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 04, 2005, 01:12:22 AM
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2005, 01:09:21 AM
How about Mahe. He sucks.

Given the way that Hood and Wynn have been teh suck on punt and kick returns, I say no.  Mahe probably won't break any long returns but I don't think he's going to misplay anything either.  Hopefully Reid leaves him back there in the return game, especially on the punt return team. 
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 01:16:36 AM
Quote from: MURP on October 04, 2005, 01:05:44 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 27, 2005, 04:30:17 AM
Another lesser possibility would be to come up with an injury for rookie linebacker Matt McCoy and put him on injured reserve.



did that just say they should invent an injury for McCoy?

How about a fractured delutecia?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: stillupfront on October 04, 2005, 07:36:12 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 12:36:25 PM
I've said it for years.  White people have no business in sports, unless it's as the owner.

About time somebody else has come around to my way of thinking.


no just linebackers for the most part...and only pro linebackers


if you rid all sports of whitey what happens to all the 40 yr old lefty relievers

Uhrlacker sucks. Man, I sure am glad we don't have a piece of shtein like Zack Thomas.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2005, 08:02:04 AM
Uhrlacker sucks. Man, I sure am glad we don't have a piece of shtein like Zack Thomas.

if you read my post i said zach thomas is an exception...urlacher may not suck but hes ridiculously overrated...but even if he isnt you named a whopping two players to prove your point...i think the debate team is calling
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: rjs246 on October 04, 2005, 08:04:33 AM
Uh, right now, against the Cowboys, I'm not going to miss Akers. I will, however, miss Walker. His contusioned ass needs to get back out there. I am excited, though, to see a little bit of fatass Keyonta Marshall.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 04, 2005, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 04, 2005, 08:04:33 AM
Uh, right now, against the Cowboys, I'm not going to miss Akers. I will, however, miss Walker. His contusioned ass needs to get back out there. I am excited, though, to see a little bit of fatass Keyonta Marshall.

This thread's a week old.  Walker is still 50/50 for the Cowboys game as far as we know.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: rjs246 on October 04, 2005, 08:08:53 AM
Well how about that. Pllbbbtt.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 04, 2005, 08:16:39 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 12:18:19 AM
Obviously take this for what it's worth, but I got this from the EMB:

Quotei was listening to the akers and runyan show on 92.5 about an hour ago. Akers said he got a third opinion and he tore a tendon halfway off his pelvic bone. He would not be specific about when he would be back but did say it would be several games. he was asked if he would be back after the bye and he said nope. He was asked if he would be back when the eagles play in the super bowl and he said if they keep me around. The way he was talking it sounds like he is expecting to be IR'd. He also made a comment about the NFL being the not for long league, and another comment about it being a what have you done for me lately league. Sounding like he may not be around much longer.

If that is true, we'll find out about it tomorrow or Wednesday. But I sure hope it's not. The only good thing is that once France got in a groove he looked OK.

::) Speculate much?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 04, 2005, 09:02:33 AM
That  ::) was more gratuitous than most, PG.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Purple_Hayz on October 04, 2005, 09:57:25 AM
That's a bold statement. ;)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 11:51:34 AM
Somebody speculated?!
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: JTrotter Fan on October 04, 2005, 12:02:53 PM
Speculate this!   :flipoff
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
Daily News

QuoteSource: Akers' hamstring injury is worse than thought


Kicker David Akers' hamstring injury seems to be "more significant than originally thought," a source close to the situation told the Daily News yesterday.

Akers has been seen by two specialists for additional opinions, the source said. Coach Andy Reid confirmed that Akers was seeking an opinion yesterday.

There remains no concrete timetable for Akers' return, but the source said surgery does not seem to be necessary at this time. Akers probably won't be ready to kick in a game when the Eagles return from the bye Oct. 23 against San Diego, the source said.

That leaves Todd France in charge of the kicks. Reid said that despite France's early struggles - his 40-yard attempt was blocked and his first PAT went awry after a bad snap - he had no reservations about sending him onto the field for a 44-yard try at the start of the third quarter.

"He's a young guy, and you have to work through those things," Reid said. "He had a good look in his eye. His first kick was a little low, but after that, he did a pretty good job, I thought. I really wasn't worried. I figured you do it enough times, you can do what you did in practice, and he looked pretty good in practice."
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Beermonkey on October 04, 2005, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
Daily News

QuoteSource: Akers' hamstring injury is worse than thought


Kicker David Akers' hamstring injury seems to be "more significant than originally thought," a source close to the situation told the Daily News yesterday.

Akers has been seen by two specialists for additional opinions, the source said. Coach Andy Reid confirmed that Akers was seeking an opinion yesterday.

There remains no concrete timetable for Akers' return, but the source said surgery does not seem to be necessary at this time. Akers probably won't be ready to kick in a game when the Eagles return from the bye Oct. 23 against San Diego, the source said.

That leaves Todd France in charge of the kicks. Reid said that despite France's early struggles - his 40-yard attempt was blocked and his first PAT went awry after a bad snap - he had no reservations about sending him onto the field for a 44-yard try at the start of the third quarter.

"He's a young guy, and you have to work through those things," Reid said. "He had a good look in his eye. His first kick was a little low, but after that, he did a pretty good job, I thought. I really wasn't worried. I figured you do it enough times, you can do what you did in practice, and he looked pretty good in practice."

Don't try & use that quote to support your ill-conceived speculation, you know that your post is the "inside source" quoted. Frigging speculator. ::)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2005, 01:28:18 PM
if akers is indeed out for the year...anyone think it better to get a veteran kicker...someone who could probably handle playoff pressure not to mention potential playoff weather a little better
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 04, 2005, 01:36:41 PM
I think you stick with France.  He's a young guy with a pretty strong leg.  No veterans available at this time are going to be any better overall... But I can't say for sure.  Throw some names out there.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 04, 2005, 01:40:23 PM
owen pochman??
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MURP on October 04, 2005, 01:42:03 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:43:27 PM
That's the dude that TO yelled at after he sucked in San Fran.

The other day Cataldi was screaming for Morten or Gary Anderson. Which shows how stupid he is. I'd love to hear him after one of those geezers can't kick a FG over 40 or can't kickoff.

I'd stay with France for the time being and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:43:55 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on October 04, 2005, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 04, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
Daily News

QuoteSource: Akers' hamstring injury is worse than thought


Kicker David Akers' hamstring injury seems to be "more significant than originally thought," a source close to the situation told the Daily News yesterday.

Akers has been seen by two specialists for additional opinions, the source said. Coach Andy Reid confirmed that Akers was seeking an opinion yesterday.

There remains no concrete timetable for Akers' return, but the source said surgery does not seem to be necessary at this time. Akers probably won't be ready to kick in a game when the Eagles return from the bye Oct. 23 against San Diego, the source said.

That leaves Todd France in charge of the kicks. Reid said that despite France's early struggles - his 40-yard attempt was blocked and his first PAT went awry after a bad snap - he had no reservations about sending him onto the field for a 44-yard try at the start of the third quarter.

"He's a young guy, and you have to work through those things," Reid said. "He had a good look in his eye. His first kick was a little low, but after that, he did a pretty good job, I thought. I really wasn't worried. I figured you do it enough times, you can do what you did in practice, and he looked pretty good in practice."

Don't try & use that quote to support your ill-conceived speculation, you know that your post is the "inside source" quoted. Frigging speculator. ::)

:-D
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 04, 2005, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 04, 2005, 01:40:23 PM
owen pochman??

Simoneau > Pochman
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: JTrotter Fan on October 04, 2005, 02:06:05 PM
Get Boniol!
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Feva on October 04, 2005, 08:02:36 PM
What's Luis Zendehas up to these days?

GET ZENDEHAS!
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Larry on October 04, 2005, 08:19:50 PM
8-12 weeks.  Ouch. :'(
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Magical_Retard on October 04, 2005, 08:35:16 PM
he can still be ready for the playoffs....france didnt seem to bad...lets work him in for some more games and let him gain his confidence.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 08:54:15 PM
Put his ass on IR. I'm sick of this "we need a roster spot" shtein. Stick with France, see what happens,  and let them battle it out next year in camp. Want that new deal, Dave? Go earn it.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Purple_Hayz on October 04, 2005, 08:59:13 PM
I'm with the mouthbreather.  Derrik effing Burgess should have damn well taught us the folly of blowing a roster spot for an entire season on someone who *might* be back. :P
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 04, 2005, 09:05:20 PM
I agree- IR for Akers.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 09:17:55 PM
8-12 weeks guarantees him to be back for the playoffs. I say keep him on the roster. Kickers don't get rusty. He can walk right in and be fine.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MadMarchHare on October 04, 2005, 09:27:39 PM
Bullshtein they don't get rusty.  Besides, he's gonna be coming back from a torn muscle in his plant leg.  Trusting that in the playoffs doesn't appeal to me.  We need more fatmen for the Dline anyway.  IR Akers.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: WEST is GOD on October 04, 2005, 09:44:11 PM
First of all 8-12 weeks wasn't even released by the team yet. Second of all, history shows when kickers get hurt and come back, their FG% doesn't drop or anything like that.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 09:49:06 PM
I would hope it doesn't farging drop, he's been awful this year.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Rome on October 04, 2005, 09:59:47 PM
Screw putting him on IR.

BURN HIM!

(http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2002-123/images/photo11.jpg)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:04:16 PM
He should be ready to go 2nd round of playoffs (we'll have a bye). Keep him. Its worth it. You need a 45 yarder to win the game. You want Todd France or David Akers? Yea. I thought so. Shut up.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 10:07:37 PM
He's gonna kick a lot of 45 yarders when that hammy goes on him again.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Rome on October 04, 2005, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:04:16 PM
He should be ready to go 2nd round of playoffs (we'll have a bye). Keep him. Its worth it. You need a 45 yarder to win the game. You want Todd France or David Akers? Yea. I thought so. Shut up.

If we can't burn Akers, can we burn someone else then?

How about Michael Irvin?  Or that fat POS Tuna?  Charred tuna sounds nice.

:-\
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:10:28 PM
He can when he's healthy. Better than France. You know it.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 10:19:56 PM
When healthy, he's better than just about everyone. However, when he comes back I have no faith that he'll be 100% healthy.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:23:28 PM
Well its a risk I'm willing to take.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 10:34:05 PM
Good for you. Have a cookie.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:34:58 PM
I don't want a cookie. I want a hamburger.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 10:35:38 PM
We're out of hamburgers. Akers used them to ice down his bumb leg.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 10:39:54 PM
Fine, I'll take a pack of hot dog buns.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 11:05:32 PM
Oh, you don't want those ...
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 11:06:27 PM
Did hbionic do something?
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: General_Failure on October 04, 2005, 11:07:22 PM
I've been ordered by the court not to say anymore on the subject.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 11:10:31 PM
Figures.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 04, 2005, 11:12:47 PM
(http://www.casaresphoto.com/images/hanger.jpg)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: MDS on October 04, 2005, 11:14:52 PM
I'm definatley the old dude.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: mussa on October 05, 2005, 12:28:43 AM
Keep Akers around, no sense putting him away for the year, especially if there is a chance he'll be back.  Cut some of the duds, theres plenty of them.  I want an 80% Akers over a 110% France.  Come playoff time especially. 
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2005, 05:14:17 AM
Keep him around.

Want roster spots for another DE and DT?!?!?!

CUT RENO F'ING MAHE & CUT JEREMY F'ING THORNBURG!!!!!!!!

QBs - 3
RBs - 3 (Westbrook, Gordon, Moats)
FB - 1
WRs - 5
TEs - 3
OL - 9
DEs - 5 (Kearse, Kalu, Cole, Thomas, McDougle)
DTs - 5 (Walker, Patterson, Thomas, Rayburn, Marshall)
LBs - 7
CBs - 5
S - 4 (Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine)
Ks - 2 (Akers, France)
P - 1

Bam! 53 people right there.

Greg Richmond is healthy and ready to come back like McDougle?

CUT USELESS JOSH PARRY! Lamar Gordon can do that job too.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Feva on October 05, 2005, 05:35:20 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2005, 05:14:17 AM
Keep him around.

Want roster spots for another DE and DT?!?!?!

CUT RENO F'ING MAHE & CUT JEREMY F'ING THORNBURG!!!!!!!!

QBs - 3
RBs - 3 (Westbrook, Gordon, Moats)
FB - 1
WRs - 5
TEs - 3
OL - 9
DEs - 5 (Kearse, Kalu, Cole, Thomas, McDougle)
DTs - 5 (Walker, Patterson, Thomas, Rayburn, Marshall)
LBs - 7
CBs - 5
S - 4 (Dawkins, Lewis, Mikell, Considine)
Ks - 2 (Akers, France)
P - 1

Bam! 53 people right there.

Greg Richmond is healthy and ready to come back like McDougle?

CUT USELESS JOSH PARRY! Lamar Gordon can do that job too.
What he said.

Except for the "RENO F'ING MAHE" part.  After this KC game... apparently, professional fair catchers are a hot commodity.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 07:53:25 AM
He can when he's healthy. Better than France. You know it

im better than franz
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 05, 2005, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 07:53:25 AM
He can when he's healthy. Better than France. You know it

im better than franz

Because he showed he was BAD in kicking 37 and 44 yard FGs in swirling winds in KC? Yeah, he sucks.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 07:57:34 AM
one game does not a nick lowery make

lets see him do it consistently and/or in a big time spot...im pretty sure he sucks
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: T_Section224 on October 05, 2005, 07:59:15 AM
i say we sign the guy who won the half-time kicking contest from last year, he's proven reliable and has a cool car to boot.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 05, 2005, 07:59:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 07:57:34 AM
one game does not a nick lowery make

lets see him do it consistently and/or in a big time spot...im pretty sure he sucks

worst post ever.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: T_Section224 on October 05, 2005, 08:04:16 AM
i don't know PG, my last one may be in the running as well.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: rjs246 on October 05, 2005, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: T_Section224 on October 05, 2005, 08:04:16 AM
i don't know PG, my last one may be in the running as well.

Not to mention this one.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 08:09:14 AM
lemme get this straight...hes a world league player who only has an nfl job cause of an injury

me thinking he sucks because of that=worst post ever

you couldnt have picked him out of lineup with boyz II men a week ago and you thinking hes nfl worthy=$$$ post


things that make you go hmmmm
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2005, 08:12:02 AM
He sucks because he made 3 out of 4 fieldgoals?

Oh, I see...

::)
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: T_Section224 on October 05, 2005, 08:12:15 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 05, 2005, 08:04:32 AMNot to mention this one.
probably 90-95% of mine qualify
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 08:15:10 AM
He sucks because he made 3 out of 4 fieldgoals?

Oh, I see...


lololol...he made three of his first four field goals...omg...its the second coming of rafeal septian

you people are amazing...if what you just said was posted by a giant or dallas fan about a world league kicker they just signed you would laugh them out of the building

homerism is being taken to unheard of levels
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 05, 2005, 08:19:44 AM
Get a farging grip, NO ONE HERE SAID HE IS ALL WORLD or THE SECOND COMING OF ANYONE!

But to automatically just go by, "Well, he's never kicked in the NFL, so he'll suck. Watch" is bullshtein. You so want this team to fail that you have started to think things will fall apart before they do.

You're pathetic.

NO ONE is being a homer here. But to damn a guy after a pretty good showing is just plain bullshtein.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2005, 08:19:56 AM
I never said he was Adam Vinitieri.  I never said he was David Akers for that matter.

I merely gave the statistics he produced last week.  Dispute them or don't but the bottom line here is, you're arguing for argument's sake and making yourself look ridiculous in the process.

Of course, you do that routinely and it's one of the reasons I enjoy posting here.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 08:23:57 AM
Dispute them or don't but the bottom line here is, you're arguing for argument's sake and making yourself look ridiculous in the process.

Of course, you do that routinely and it's one of the reasons I enjoy posting here.


glad i can up the arbitrons of the board...perhaps murp should compensate me for the traffic i bring here...wait....i see....i see a...

i see a concrete board coffee mug in my future
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Rome on October 05, 2005, 08:27:35 AM
I said you're one of the reasons, not the reason.

Personally, I mostly come for the free cheese and the BOTD threads.

They money & shtein.   :deion
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Feva on October 05, 2005, 08:32:10 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 08:09:14 AM
lemme get this straight...hes a world league player who only has an nfl job cause of an injury

me thinking he sucks because of that=worst post ever

you couldnt have picked him out of lineup with boyz II men a week ago and you thinking hes nfl worthy=$$$ post


things that make you go hmmmm
I'm sorry... but that's flat out hilarious.  :-D
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 05, 2005, 08:58:09 AM
Bah!

Everyone knows France was the guy with the bass in BIIM.

I'm cool with him for now.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Wingspan on October 05, 2005, 09:38:59 AM
i think akers should be put on IR

the hammy will bother him all season, even when he comes back. i dont want a kicker who's kicking at 80%, especially when that -20% is the one muscle that is most important to his job.

what happens in 8-12 weeks when akers is cleared to play? you have to cut france, and is now ineligible to go back on the practice squad, and he will be most likely signed to replace some deadbeat kicker somewhere else in the league. give akers the year off. if not, you are running a BIG risk of a repeat of the raiders game.

too much of a risk in the playoffs. i take my chances with a healthy kicker than a potentially gimpy kicker with a bad hammy.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: terpseagles on October 05, 2005, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 08:09:14 AM
lemme get this straight...hes a world league player who only has an nfl job cause of an injury

me thinking he sucks because of that=worst post ever

you couldnt have picked him out of lineup with boyz II men a week ago and you thinking hes nfl worthy=$$$ post


things that make you go hmmmm

And Akers was once cut by the taterskins.... what's your point ?   other than hindsight is freakin 20/20......  Could you have picked Akers out of New Kids on the Block lineup back then ? 
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on October 05, 2005, 09:51:49 AM
QuoteEagles | Akers Out Indefinitely
Wed, 5 Oct 2005 06:17:59 -0700

Reuben Frank, of phillyBurbs.com, reports a second opinion revealed some tendon damage in addition to Philadelphia Eagles PK David Akers' hamstring tear, which means Akers will be out at least another two months. Akers said last week he had no idea how long he'd be out, so the news is not overly surprising. The Eagles must decide whether to keep two kickers on the 53-man roster or place Akers on Injured Reserve and end his season.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: Larry on October 05, 2005, 10:19:34 AM
I'd leave Akers on the active roster.  When he returns, we could keep France -- if he's still around -- as insurance.  So what if we carry 2 kickers on the roster.  It's not as if Thornburg or McCoy will contribute much this season anyhow :paranoid.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: RAIDERRED on October 05, 2005, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 27, 2005, 09:47:28 AM
yeah the Patriots LB's were the worst in the NFL for years now


thats the system...not the players...teddy bruschi doesnt even start on most teams

there are exceptions to the rule...zach thomas comes to mind...but they are few and far btwn...bottom line rule is dont draft a white linebacker until at minimum third round



So, you wouldn't draft AJ Hawk or Chad Greenway next year in round one because they are white?? :sly
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 11:01:37 AM
So, you wouldn't draft AJ Hawk or Chad Greenway next year in round one because they are white??

correct...not even sure id take either one in the second round
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: RAIDERRED on October 05, 2005, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 11:01:37 AM
So, you wouldn't draft AJ Hawk or Chad Greenway next year in round one because they are white??

correct...not even sure id take either one in the second round

Okie Dokie. :sly
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on October 05, 2005, 11:10:13 AM
your excellent use of smilies ensures that you will fit right in around here
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 05, 2005, 11:10:39 AM
If the timetable is such that it is likely he'll be 100% by the start of the playoffs, then he deserves a roster spot.

If he probably won't be 100% for the start of the playoffs, then put him on IR, and back France completely.


You don't use a roster spot on a kicker who MIGHT come back.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: ice grillin you on October 05, 2005, 11:12:29 AM
what are the odds akers is on a couch right now talking to someone about his job security phobia
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: rjs246 on October 05, 2005, 05:49:47 PM
White people are the worstest at the sportings.
Title: Re: Eckel: Akers Out At Least A Month; Walker Out On Sunday
Post by: SunMo on October 06, 2005, 08:51:08 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 05, 2005, 05:49:47 PM
White people are the worstest at the sportings.

except hockey, and anything having to do with water