QuoteAugust 15, 2005
By ZACH BERMAN
PITTSBURGH -- Team President Joe Banner was interviewed on the Heinz Field sidelines before Monday night's game, and remains confident that the Terrell Owens situation can be resolved.
Banner understands that there is a large difference of opinion regarding Owens' contract, but stands firm on the Eagles' position not to re-negotiate the contract. Rather, the Eagles want to focus on resolving the problem and getting Owens back on the field to help reach the Super Bowl.
"It's time now to get back together and get focused on our goals," Banner told ESPN's Suzy Kolber. "I know T.O. wants to play here and I know he wants a Super Bowl ring. Hopefully he can put the emotions he has behind him and the difference of opinion we have and contribute to that for a year."
Banner confirmed that a letter was sent to Owens regarding last week's dismissal from training camp. The intention was to clear any misunderstanding about the dismissal and outline the Eagles' expectations for the Pro Bowl receiver
"We wanted to make sure there was no ambiguity about what it was that we didn't think was acceptable and try to set a positive goal for his return on Wednesday as for what we can do together and what we can accomplish," Banner said.
"Hopefully we can get to a fresh start and achieve the goals we have."
The notion that the Eagles might trade Owens was also dispelled. Banner emphasized that the organization wants Owens to play for the Eagles and no one else. He said the team hasn't sought interest in Owens, nor have they received any indication of other teams trying to obtain him.
The goal remains keeping Owens in an Eagles jersey this season and creating a situation where he can pick up where he left off after his record-breaking 2004 season.
"He is a great player and we're still optimistic that this is a manageable situation," Banner said. "He's a prideful guy and he's a great player. In the end, hopefully that will override the difference of opinion we have and we can get back on the field together."
doesnt sound like a guy who is sick of TO and wants to make an example of him.
You can always say he is just taking the high road, but we'll find out wednesday. If he truly means what he says then they would think long and hard about suspending him for the season.
I don't think anyone really doesn't want him on the team. They just want him to stop being an ass and/or child every day of the week. "Shut up and play" has never fit so well with this situation.
Gary Papa said tonight that he's been told that TO viewed the letter as an insult and he felt that they didn't need to send him that. Basically he's pissed. :-o
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2005, 11:49:24 PM
Gary Papa said tonight that he's been told that TO viewed the letter as an insult and he felt that they didn't need to send him that. Basically he's pissed. :-o
LOL, he's been told. :-D
Maybe Banner should have faxed TO a picture of TO's ass with this caption under it:
"Guess what I own?"
Gary Papa? Is that a nickname or something?
Nope..that's his name. Channel 6 Sports Anchor
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 15, 2005, 11:57:39 PM
Gary Papa? Is that a nickname or something?
Sports anchor for one of the local news programs. Action News I believe.
It seems to me that T.O. is slightly retarded and needs even the most basic instructions explained to him repeatedly.
Therefore, when Banner laid out the expectations of the team with respect to T.O.'s behavior and demeanor, everything had to be spelled out precisely for T.O. so that there's no chance of any misinterpretation on T.O.'s part.
Plus, I think they were laying the law down for Rosenhaus as well so that that little spooge-guzzling shyster has no recourse but to accept the terms of the deal T.O. intitially signed.
TO is so paranoid. He takes everything to heart for a reason.
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 15, 2005, 11:47:12 PM
I don't think anyone really doesn't want him on the team.
I dunno man, in our very scientific CF poll, nearly 60% of the voters dont want TO on the team this year. Of course, they could have all been Cowturd fans. ;D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 16, 2005, 12:00:35 AM
It seems to me that T.O. is slightly retarded and needs even the most basic instructions explained to him repeatedly.
Therefore, when Banner laid out the expectations of the team with respect to T.O.'s behavior and demeanor, everything had to be spelled out precisely for T.O. so that there's no chance of any misinterpretation on T.O.'s part.
Plus, I think they were laying the law down for Rosenhaus as well so that that little spooge-guzzling shyster has no recourse but to accept the terms of the deal T.O. intitially signed.
In the Marines we are required to document any problems with our subordinates before giving them bad reviews, write them up etc. It's to show a documented history of problems and the actions taken to attempt to correct those problems. That way when you write a Marine up or give him bad performace evaluations there is documentation there to support it.
The Eagles are basically doing the same thing. They have laid down the law and explained to TO in plain English what is and isn't acceptable behavior. This way if TO crosses the line again they can suspend him or hand out whatever punishment they feel is necessary and TO wouldn't be able to fight it. He's already acknowledged reciept of the letter so unlike the changes in filing for free agency, he can't claim that he never got it. Too bad he hired Rosenhaus. If he still had Joseph they could use that excuse and everyone would believe it. :paranoid
Quote from: MURP on August 16, 2005, 12:09:06 AM
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 15, 2005, 11:47:12 PM
I don't think anyone really doesn't want him on the team.
I dunno man, in our very scientific CF poll, nearly 60% of the voters dont want TO on the team this year. Of course, they could have all been Cowturd fans. ;D
Gah! That reminds me of that stupid poll they kept flashing on the screen over and over again. I'm starting to really, really hate ESPN.
They kept flashing it, but from the first time to the last time only 10,000 more people voted. The percentages never moved.
Exactly! Which is what made them putting it up all the time such idiocy.
ESPN are the kings of hype and mainstream stories. They stick with the popular stories, blow them way up, talk about them way too much, and over-analyze. You have to deal with it if you want the coverage they bring.
I guess they did it for the same reason they kept repeating the same Stuart Scott 30 second thing - the announcers don't know shtein about football.
"Why are these fans still here?"
Yeah, ESPN was farging BRUTAL tonight. I already hate Theisman, but they were shteintariffic tonight.
When interviewing players...show the goddamn game. I don't want to see Roethlisberger winking at Kolber while our defense is sacking the QB. And then they don't even talk about it. F ESPN.
The sad thing about it is next year the Eagles will have 3 or so games on ESPN because of them getting MNF. Usually we get the same Eagles @ Skins ESPN game every year at the end of the season.
Quote"...contribute to that for a year."
...but not for more than a year, I guess...
The one thing that I noticed repeatedly about the announcing tonight is that they continually ignored the game and provided no substantive play-by-play calls.
If I was blind and was relying on that crew to know wtf was going on, I would have been totally lost.
Just non-stop drivel on and on for three-plus hours. It really is unwatchable and unlistenable at this point. Just a disgrace.
You might as well have been blind for the number of poor camera angle and times they cut away or split screened.
They called Eagles players names of Steelers players about 5 times tonight. OK, you can get a name confused with someone on your own team, but not the other farging team. They did this shtein last season too. Michael Westbrook with the nice gain. I mean Westbrook made a name for himself by then, get his damn name right. Michael Westbrook has been without a job for years now. Maybe next year with Joe out of this group of the 3 morons, the change of scenery will help. Madden is a serious guy, he won't be a clown with John.
Also I can't stand that stupid noise they always play on ESPN games. It's like WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOO, it sounds like a god damn train.
Mind-numbingly awful.
That's what I think of ESPN's coverage.
It reminded me of MTV's coverage of Live 8. It was that horrible.
Quote from: Monster on August 16, 2005, 12:38:28 AM
Madden is a serious guy
Boom! Whack! Let me maul this turducken with my liverspotted hamfists!
Guess what? In addition to the Michael/Bryant Westbrook crap we hear...we're also going to have to hear a lot of how good Brian Moats is.
Gary Papa even called him Brian. Good job, Gary. Way to represent the "official Eagles station".
They call Moats Westbrook's name and think that we have a bum ass ex-taterskin receiver and Packers/Lions CB at RB. I have a headache.
And apparently someone named Ezekial Cobb is returning kicks for the Eagles?
I repeat: Action News has the worst sports coverage of the local stations. Even CN8 and their viewership of 10 people has better coverage.....
Quote from: General_Failure on August 16, 2005, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: Monster on August 16, 2005, 12:38:28 AM
Madden is a serious guy
Boom! Whack! Let me maul this turducken with my liverspotted hamfists!
Excluding thanksgiving. Boom and wack are serious expressions though. It's just Madden's natural way to express himself.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 12:43:04 AM
I repeat: Action News has the worst sports coverage of the local stations. Even CN8 and their viewership of 10 people has better coverage.....
I was thinking about that tonight when Papa was all over 'Brian' Moats' sack...how the hell did the station with the worst sports coverage in the city get to be the "official station of the Eagles'?
I know money is the reason, but I liked CBS3 much better. GCobb might be a mushmouth but Beasley Reece and Steve Bucci (when he's not whining) are much better.
News stations are the absolute LAST place you should go for coverage on any sports. I love how when they "break" trade rumors people take it seriously. News stations WILL NOT break any Eagles trade rumors before ESPN, CSN, PFT.com or ESPNews. News stations are the absolute last to get the information. So when you hear Gary Papa or John Clark report the Eagles are interested in _____, they either 1) Got it from another site or 2) Made it up.
John Clark had Donald Driver on his list of Eagles WR possibilities. That must've been news to Green Bay..... ???
Driver is a real long shot, the only reason he would even remotely be considered is because Ferguson is a lot younger, and if the Packers had to trade one they may stick with the youth because they can't win any Superbowl with that awful defense.
Still John Clark probably reads message boards and pulls up random rumors. Remember when he read responses from TO's site as news? News stations are pathetic, and I haven't watched a full episode of Sports Final since Howard left. He was the only one on news stations with any type of inside info.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 16, 2005, 12:51:32 AM
John Clark had Donald Driver on his list of Eagles WR possibilities. That must've been news to Green Bay..... ???
Heard that one earlier today. News to a lot of people.
I took a nap between 8-11pm, my time and got up to watch ATH, PTI, and Monday Night Countdown--I should have know better. PTI wasn't too bad but--
ATH--Paige--"The Eagles will lose 4-5 road games this year." Hey Woody, the Eagles HAVEN'T LOST MORE THAN 3 ROAD GAMES since 1999--and that was WITHOUT OWENS.
Cowlishaw--"The Eagles won't make it back to the playoffs."
All in all, this is what I heard--blah, blah, blah.....
I was glad to see the WRs catching basically everything they could get their hands on.
TO should be pissed at himself that he's such a child that they needed to define "unacceptable behavior", since it'd be common sense to most people.
Sarge is correct, that was basicaly a "performance improvement plan" for TO, to eliminate any ambiguity as to what the Eagles will tolerate as acceptable behavior. It's been painfully obvious that Owens has been strategically walking a blurry line to be as much of a pain in the ass and distraction as he could be without legally violating the terms of his contract (although I'd suspect most courts would find his insubordination to Reid and Childress to be a violation). Although the contents of the letter has not been made public, we can assume the ambiguity has now been removed.
That being said, I thought Banner's interview as a lot more positive than I would've anticipated.
On the other topics of the thread:
ESPN football coverage is horrible...did they have any replays on anything other than TDs and the two disputed calls? And, could we blow more smoke up Hines Wards' ass?
The Eagles young WRs had very encouraging performances. I thought maybe TO was laughing when Greg Lewis' first quarter gaff cost the Eagles an INT TD return...but, that was really the only obvious mistake I saw from the WR group the entire night.
Ryan Moats, Reggie Brown, Mike McMahon, and Wost Manneans gave very good first impressions in their Eagles debuts, among others. It looked like the Eagles were blowing up the middle of the Steelers' offensive line all night long, regardless of which "string" was in the game...did anyone get a good look at Patterson's play?
What did they keep calling Robert Redd? Even on the graphic with the WRs and how many balls they had caught in the past year, they had it like Justin Judd or some shtein like that? LIke they got Justin Jenkins and Robert Redd combined into some other name?
Also, when putting up the Pro-Bowlers from last year, they left off Michael Lewis. ::)
Mike Patrick noted that Bettis averaged 31 yards per carry as a starter.
I heard that too...I even said, "Wow, he's like the best RB EVER"
:-D
banner is a GREAT business man...and like all great business men hes also a little rat...that letter was part a shot at TO and part CYA...anything banner says in a TV interview should be taken as 95% complete and utter BS
as for the gb wr's..am i the only person who doesnt think theres a chance in hell that gb would help out a conference rival at their weakest position??
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 16, 2005, 07:16:33 AM
What did they keep calling Robert Redd? Even on the graphic with the WRs and how many balls they had caught in the past year, they had it like Justin Judd or some shtein like that? LIke they got Justin Jenkins and Robert Redd combined into some other name?
Also, when putting up the Pro-Bowlers from last year, they left off Michael Lewis. ::)
They called him Jason Jenkins a few times.
Overall, the announcers were their usual horrible selves. Lots of misinformation being spewed last night.
As bad as the guys in the booth were, Kolber actually did some pretty good interviews, especially with Banner. She asked him several questions he clearly didn't want to answer. He looked relieved when they were done.
Did you see when Banner asked if he could kiss her? ;) (how funny would that have been?)
Kolber doesn't really bother me. It's the idiots in the booth.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 16, 2005, 09:16:04 AM
As bad as the guys in the booth were, Kolber actually did some pretty good interviews, especially with Banner. She asked him several questions he clearly didn't want to answer. He looked relieved when they were done.
I thought the interview went extremely well and Banner was prepared to answer all her questions. I'm not saying that the interview was set up, but it's possible. Toward the end of the interview, Banner was starting to crack a wry smile.
He did seem very prepared. Enough so, that I got the sense he had a cheat sheet of the questions. Then again, it's the same stuff he's been hearing for about forever, seemingly.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2005, 08:01:01 AM
banner is a GREAT business man...and like all great business men hes also a little rat...that letter was part a shot at TO and part CYA...anything banner says in a TV interview should be taken as 95% complete and utter BS
as for the gb wr's..am i the only person who doesnt think theres a chance in hell that gb would help out a conference rival at their weakest position??
The Packers are stacked at WR and thin at Defensive Tackle. What's so surprising about the fact that both teams could actually help each other by trading spare parts?
Also - you really need to get off of Banner's dick, dude. He's a brilliant man and is roundly respected as a tough negotiator and an astute financial analyst. You should be thankful for having him on the Eagles team, not busting his fargin chops every chance you get.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 16, 2005, 07:16:33 AM
What did they keep calling Robert Redd? Even on the graphic with the WRs and how many balls they had caught in the past year, they had it like Justin Judd or some shtein like that? LIke they got Justin Jenkins and Robert Redd combined into some other name?
Also, when putting up the Pro-Bowlers from last year, they left off Michael Lewis. ::)
Didn't they leave off Simon as well? I thought he went last year.
i said hes a GREAT businessman...but hes a weasel and gives me the willies...that garbage about how the letter was a way of smoothing things out for a fresh start on wednesday was the biggest crock of crap ive ever heard
TO is beyond pathetic and because of that hes making banner look like mother theresa...but hes as slimey as rosenhaus...he just so happens to work for our favorite team...if because of that you choose to like him then more power to you...i however cannot
In any setting when you plan to Fire someone you need to make sure your "Ducks" are in order so that you can defer any legal actions to a paper trail. They are setting the parameters of his suspension if he doesnt comply.
Quote from: SSgt PSN on August 16, 2005, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 16, 2005, 12:00:35 AM
It seems to me that T.O. is slightly retarded and needs even the most basic instructions explained to him repeatedly.
Therefore, when Banner laid out the expectations of the team with respect to T.O.'s behavior and demeanor, everything had to be spelled out precisely for T.O. so that there's no chance of any misinterpretation on T.O.'s part.
Plus, I think they were laying the law down for Rosenhaus as well so that that little spooge-guzzling shyster has no recourse but to accept the terms of the deal T.O. intitially signed.
In the Marines we are required to document any problems with our subordinates before giving them bad reviews, write them up etc. It's to show a documented history of problems and the actions taken to attempt to correct those problems. That way when you write a Marine up or give him bad performace evaluations there is documentation there to support it.
The Eagles are basically doing the same thing. They have laid down the law and explained to TO in plain English what is and isn't acceptable behavior. This way if TO crosses the line again they can suspend him or hand out whatever punishment they feel is necessary and TO wouldn't be able to fight it. He's already acknowledged reciept of the letter so unlike the changes in filing for free agency, he can't claim that he never got it. Too bad he hired Rosenhaus. If he still had Joseph they could use that excuse and everyone would believe it. :paranoid
We do something like that where I work too. Lots of ex military here I guess. It's called a PIP or process improvement plan. So not only are you written up, you are given a plan to correct your behavior. I think all of this is along those lines. These types of things generally only work with adults I'm afraid....
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 16, 2005, 10:07:15 AM
i said hes a GREAT businessman...but hes a weasel and gives me the willies...that garbage about how the letter was a way of smoothing things out for a fresh start on wednesday was the biggest crock of crap ive ever heard
TO is beyond pathetic and because of that hes making banner look like mother theresa...but hes as slimey as rosenhaus...he just so happens to work for our favorite team...if because of that you choose to like him then more power to you...i however cannot
He said the Eagles are better on the field with T.O. than they are without him.
Fact.He said the Eagles sent the letter so that no ambiguities would remain with respect to how the team expects Owens to act.
Fact.He also said that they hope T.O. comes to his senses, rejoins the team, and helps put them over the top by winning a Super Bowl.
Fact.Where is he lying in those three sentences? It seems to me that your hatred of Banner is an irrational one, IGY, and furthermore, it seems as though that hatred is based on something other than Banner's business acumen.
Care to share what that hatred might be based on? :sly
http://www.foryouto.com/pages/1/index.htm
:-D
Quote from: Phanatic on August 16, 2005, 10:31:30 AM
We do something like that where I work too. Lots of ex military here I guess. It's called a PIP or process improvement plan. So not only are you written up, you are given a plan to correct your behavior. I think all of this is along those lines. These types of things generally only work with adults I'm afraid....
:D That type of letter is a standard & integral part of implementing any corrective action plan when an employee violates rules or doesn't meet expectations. Anyone who thinks it's part of some other secret agenda has issues.
Will anyone in the world actually buy that shtein?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 16, 2005, 07:16:33 AM
What did they keep calling Robert Redd? Even on the graphic with the WRs and how many balls they had caught in the past year, they had it like Justin Judd or some shtein like that? LIke they got Justin Jenkins and Robert Redd combined into some other name?
Also, when putting up the Pro-Bowlers from last year, they left off Michael Lewis. ::)
Robert Reed and Jared Jones (the other #19)
Ruebin Frank says TO is back in town now.
Quote from: MURP on August 16, 2005, 04:48:49 PM
Ruebin Frank says TO is back in town now.
This should be interesting.
I wonder how many sniper rifles AR has trained on his ass.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 16, 2005, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 16, 2005, 07:16:33 AM
What did they keep calling Robert Redd? Even on the graphic with the WRs and how many balls they had caught in the past year, they had it like Justin Judd or some shtein like that? LIke they got Justin Jenkins and Robert Redd combined into some other name?
Also, when putting up the Pro-Bowlers from last year, they left off Michael Lewis. ::)
Didn't they leave off Simon as well? I thought he went last year.
Simon went the year before.
patrick referred to reggie brown as mike bartrum...at least once
thats like mixing up christian welp and charles barkley
Anyone else Banner is shorter than Suzie Kolber? She goes about what, 5'3"? :-D :-D
In a related story, Big Daddy called Reggie Brown Greg Brown multiple times last night. Another guy who doesn't have a clue.
T.O. is going to read an apology tomorrow in an obviously half-hearted manner, according to Vai Sikahomo.
I. Would. Like. To. Aplogize. To. My. Teammates. And. The. Fans. I. Will. Continue. To. Do. What. Is. Best. For. My. Family.
He won't be able to do it, he'll get 3/4th's done and it'll turn out like this:
Andy, I am sorry for everything I have done. I would like to apologize for all of the distractions I have been the cause of. I also would like to apologize for talking back to you.... even though you did egg me on you arrogant piece of shtein, and Donovan is a company man after all so it is warranted.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 16, 2005, 05:50:45 PM
T.O. is going to read an apology tomorrow in an obviously half-hearted manner, according to Vai Sikahomo.
QuoteSource: Owens Considering Stunt After Reid Meeting
Owens Suspended From Training Camp For Week
POSTED: 5:11 pm EDT August 16, 2005
UPDATED: 7:51 pm EDT August 16, 2005
PHILADELPHIA -- More stormy weather may be in the forecast for the Philadelphia Eagles Wednesday in the form of Terrell Owens.
Video: Owens May Pull Stunt After Big Meeting
Controversial Eagles receiver Terrell Owens could be planning a public "statement" Wednesday after his team meeting with Andy Reid that could embarrass the Eagles, NBC 10 has learned.
Owens is expected to return to the practice field after a seven-day suspension. But before he suits up he has to meet with head coach Andy Reid after Wednesday morning's practice in South Philadelphia.
NBC 10 sports director Vai Sikahema said Tuesday afternoon that he spoke with a source close to Owens and that source said that T.O. is considering reading a statement to the media upon his return, in which he'll express his remorse.
But there will be a catch, the sources said. He will do it halfheartedly and there will be no mistaking his contempt for the Eagles' organization in the way he reads the statement publicly.
T.O. was suspended from the team last Wednesday after several days away with a reported groin injury, and after passing on his obligation to sign autographs for the fans.
That angered Reid, triggering T.O.'s suspension. A letter sent to Owens over the weekend at his Atlanta home, detailed his alleged acts of insubordination during training camp.
For more on the Eagles' options if Owens doesn't meet their expectations, go to www.nbc10.com/eaglesblog
Why can't this guy just STFU and come in and play out the year and go to UFA next year? He knows he'll be cut by now so him and Drew can go to UFA and seek the millions.
Damn. Like I said before, I don't care if he's here or if he's Keyshawn'd...but quit with the soap opera. Get it done either way.
If true, Terrell Owens won't play in 2005. He may never play in the NFL again. After his stunts in both San Francisco and Philly, the onlu owner crazy enough to bring him in would be Al Davis- and his WR corps is pretty full.
Hopefully this story is just media hype- and the media feeding frenzy is as much at fault for this as anything else in this whole debacle. The tabloid mentaltiy of organizations that are suppsed to be "respectable" is not only disheartening but sickening.
Now that this is public, the Eagles will be certainly on the lookout for it. No way T.O. gets through unscathed.
Maybe he'll just show up, apologize to the team like a man for acting like a fool, and put this shtein behind him?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 16, 2005, 09:53:59 PM
Maybe he'll just show up, apologize to the team like a man for acting like a fool, and put this shtein behind him?
You're a funny guy.
One more false move and his career is over. Even he must be smart enough to see that.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 16, 2005, 10:00:39 PM
Even he must be smart enough to see that.
Man, we're just full of funny guys tonight.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 16, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
I wonder how many sniper rifles AR has trained on his ass.
The letter had some secret tracking powder on it. That way the "team" knows where T.O is at all times....one bad move.....one more bitch and :fire
If he does that...he will definitely be finished. I would expect to see him possibly suiting up in an NBA uni next season or the one after that. He'll just retire and never play again. What a fleshpop.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 16, 2005, 10:30:37 PM
If he does that...he will definitely be finished. I would expect to see him possibly suiting up in an NBA uni next season or the one after that. He'll just retire and never play again. What a fleshpop.
If that means the end of the endless TO Media orgy, I'm all for it.
Retire, already! Give the Eagles the cap room, and watch their Super Bowl victory on TV while sitting on Drew's lap, waiting for your invitation to the NBDL.
Hey, i totally agree. I mean, how can he not just come in and play. He's in the top five for WR salaries. He got traded for a low draft pick and brandon whiting. C'mon dude...play this 2nd year and then maybe the Eagles would've talked. Now, he's screwed himself. He can retire and sit out...his circus is old now.
PFT says the rumor is false...
Ed, enlighten us on your opinion on what you think will happen tomorrow. Your brilliant mind has yet to grace us with the only opinion that matters.
:-\
You'd like to think that everyone can sit down and come to some sort of agreement on what to do this season, but with TO, nobody knows...
According to a piece in this morning's Delcto Times, it is the EAGLE PLAYERS who want Owens to apologize. Maybe he don't have as many teammates as he thought watching his back:
http://www.delcotimes.com
A quote from the story:
"There are rumblings, although unconfirmed, that Eagles players want Owens to apologize."
QuoteHe ignored reporters' questions and waved to fans as he drove away, stopping at the end of his block where he rolled down the window, signed some autographs and sped off. About a half-hour later, Owens returned, accompanied by agent Drew Rosenhaus, who was carrying takeout food.
We need a caption for this line in the AP story about TO's return. LOL
And to what Ed just said:
QuoteREPORTS OF T.O. STUNT ARE FALSE
Thanks to our buddies at pick2pick.com for tipping us off to a report originating out of NBC 10 in Philly regarding the latest potential episode in the T.O. saga.
Vai Sikahema, the sports director at NBC 10 and former NFL special-teamer extraordinaire, says that Eagles receiver Terrell Owens will emerge from his Wednesday meeting with coach Andy Reid reading a written statement of feigned remorse.
And though we're in the business or mongering rumors, not debunking them, we've learned -- unequivocally -- that this report is false and that Owens will not be conducting any such "stunts" for the media on Wednesday.
With that said, we don't expect Owens to be a good soldier if/when Reid allows him to rejoin the team, and we fully expect the Eagles to be poised to pounce on any actual or perceived misconduct by T.O. in support of further adverse action against him.
Not that I believe a word PFT says, but they are like the Enquirer in the sense that they are always waiting....teeth bared. So if Vai's story was true, they'd be all over it and thensome.
I still want to know what Vai thought there was to gain by reporting that. Here are the possible outcomes:
A) It was false all along, and Vai looks like a... local sports guy trying too hard.
B) T.O./Drew learn their plan has been leaked, so T.O. decides to wait to push the boundaries until another time.
WIP reported that TO was seen coming into the NCC wearing his camoflauge hat and shirt, shades and headphones... :paranoid
Take it FWIW.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 07:47:27 AM
WIP reported that TO was seen coming into the NCC wearing his camoflauge hat and shirt, shades and headphones... :paranoid
Take it FWIW.
He's there. And there will be an 11am PC with Reid, McNabb and Dawkins taking the mic.
From Brookover in today's Inquirer:
QuoteAccording to a league source, the Eagles think Owens will be better behaved when he returns because of some things they've heard recently from people who are close to the wide receiver.
"The close circle of people around him expect him to be different than when he left," the source said. "They said he would be a pain in the neck when he got there and now they are saying something different. They're not saying he'll be smiling and cheerful, but they think there's a good chance he'll be different."
We can only hope that's true...
Comcast will be having live coverage at 8am and the PCs at 11am too...
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 07:47:27 AM
WIP reported that TO was seen coming into the NCC wearing his camoflauge hat and shirt, shades and headphones... :paranoid
Take it FWIW.
Just like he said he would be...and that means the pundits think that he's "declaring war". :-D
Anyone else see the accessory himself talking on Baltimore's CSN about TO? ::) He's such a disgusting hypocrite.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 07:47:27 AM
WIP reported that TO was seen coming into the NCC wearing his camoflauge hat and shirt, shades and headphones... :paranoid
Take it FWIW.
Just like he said he would be...and that means the pundits think that he's "declaring war". :-D
People read into stuff too much. Who gives a shtein what he's wearing?
Yeah...but I'll give him the benefit of he doubt on this one. I'm sure that the media asked him about it and he didn't give his unsolicited opinion of it.
Get a load of this crap from that dopey bastich Gary Myers from the NY Daily News:
QuoteBy Gary Myers
New York Daily News
NEW YORK — Every time Terrell Owens opens his mouth and rips Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid or whines about his contract, the Giants pick up a game in the NFC East standings. And considering they finished seven games behind the Eagles last season, they need T.O. to keep talking.
:-D :-D :-D :-D
Keep on dreaming, you goofy farger.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 08:08:29 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 07:47:27 AM
WIP reported that TO was seen coming into the NCC wearing his camoflauge hat and shirt, shades and headphones... :paranoid
Take it FWIW.
Just like he said he would be...and that means the pundits think that he's "declaring war". :-D
People read into stuff too much. Who gives a shtein what he's wearing?
All the media and haters expecting him to explode today... destroying our season in the process. ::)
Derrick Gunn reporting from the NCC...
He said that media followed him from his house, he said he arrived at 0727 and "sped through the gate".
There are fans lined up outside...
A PLANE is flying over with a sign saying "TO MUST GO"
They also have that dude Chio from 102 with his TO MUST GO sign on the radio station van...
That's it until 11am when the PCs start or unless something else happens...
:puke :puke :puke
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 08:18:33 AM
Derrick Gunn reporting from the NCC...
He said that media followed him from his house, he said he arrived at 0727 and "sped through the gate".
There are fans lined up outside...
A PLANE is flying over with a sign saying "TO MUST GO"
Hm, do you think he realizes that his 30 seconds of Philly love are 100% over?
Where is that retarded thread from this past spring that had people claiming that TO deserved a statue outside of the Linc? I'd be curious to see that again...
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 08:23:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 08:18:33 AM
Derrick Gunn reporting from the NCC...
He said that media followed him from his house, he said he arrived at 0727 and "sped through the gate".
There are fans lined up outside...
A PLANE is flying over with a sign saying "TO MUST GO"
Hm, do you think he realizes that his 30 seconds of Philly love are 100% over?
Where is that retarded thread from this past spring that had people claiming that TO deserved a statue outside of the Linc? I'd be curious to see that again...
I'm sure I probably offered to chisel it...
Where is that retarded thread from this past spring that had people claiming that TO deserved a statue outside of the Linc? I'd be curious to see that again...
for real?
hahaha
Hey PG...I hear you on WIP :D
is that her for real
Here is the old thread... "Which Eagles are Statue-Worthy... (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14405.0)
What a farging joke.
Was me. :D
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 08:26:39 AM
Here is the old thread... "Which Eagles are Statue-Worthy... (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=14405.0)
What a farging joke.
Actually looking back at that thread only one or two people even mentioned TO. So nevermind.
Eckel (http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112426594544460.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)
QuoteWhat happens in the players' meeting today could have some influence on what happens when Owens meets with Reid, which is expected to occur before the morning practice, but could happen after practice, depending on the timing.
It's not totally certain what members of the team make up the committee, because at least two of last year's members - linebacker Ike Reese and tight end Chad Lewis - no longer are with the team. Believed to be involved this year are quarterback Donovan McNabb, safety Brian Dawkins, kicker David Akers, tackle Tra Thomas and defensive tackle Hollis Thomas. It's unknown who, if any, players will replace Reese and Lewis.
Feelings among the players regarding Owens, his behavior and his desire for a new contract vary. There is a very small contingent who is behind the All-Pro wide receiver and feels the team needs him desperately if it is to defend its NFC championship. The majority of the team prefers to stay out of it. And then there is a group of more than a few who are bothered by Owens' actions, his treatment of McNabb and his belligerent ways toward the team and the organization.
TO is on the field and practicing. Reid and TO were the last 2 on the field, Dreckel...I mean, Eckel, says that that probably means they met already. TO had a big smile on his face when he ran onto the field. Eckel said he barely smiled at camp, but he's smiling ear to ear.
Eckel is on WIP...
TO is practicing..he was the last player out to the field at 0844. He came out about 30 seconds after Andy Reid and Butch.
Eckel speculates that he thinks they had the meeting before and that TO came out afterwards...because him and Andy were the last two people out.
He said TO had a huge smile on his face and this is the first time he's seen him smile like that.
Eckel (WIP) says he's practicing... speculates that TO and AR met before hand.
Says TO came out with a big grin on his face.
F'n Phreak.... :boom
You're all too slow. :P
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 08:53:11 AM
Eckel (WIP) says he's practicing... speculates that TO and AR met before hand.
Says TO came out with a big grin on his face.
F'n Phreak.... :boom
:-D :-D
S'all good, man. PG beat us both.
You know what...I haven't heard you give us your little tag-line lately. I think I require a patented Feva motivational saying...whaddya say. :D
For you my man... anything! ;D
Hold it Down!
Feva
AR probably said to T.O. something like this:
"By now, you know what we're going to do here. We're going to expect you to re-join your team and be the difference-maker on offense that you were last year. We are absolutely not going to to renegotiate your deal until next off-season. If you go out there and prove to us and the rest of the league that your on-field talent still far outweighs all this mess you've caused up until now off the field, you are are either going to get your big-ass roster bonus from us next year or an even bigger signing bonus somewhere else. So, how about you go out there and do what's best for Terrell Owens and what's best for the Philadelphia Eagles, and get yourself a Super Bowl ring and about three and a half mill in the process... Sound good to you, kid?
T.O.: "Yup."
i agree...i would guess that reid and/or banner gave some kind of verbal commitment to the march roster bonus
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2005, 08:59:26 AM
For you my man... anything! ;D
Hold it Down!
Feva
TO is back...and Feva is spittin out the Hold It Down!
Today will be a good day. :yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 09:02:51 AM
i agree...i would guess that reid and/or banner gave some kind of verbal commitment to the march roster bonus
I would say they told him he'd have to get out there and earn it this season, though. If he continues to be truculent (sp?) towards his teammates (and especially his QB), he's not going to see that roster bonus or ANY lump sum of money that large or larger for the rest of his NFL career.
a verbal commitment, ha. Isnt that what Hollis said he got?
I would say they told him he'd have to get out there and earn it this season, though
that goes without saying
If TO is smiling so much I would guess that Reid told him they are in the process of trading his dumb ass.
You know what amazes me and yet it shouldn't? The fact that ESPN, the "worldwide" leader in sports still thinks that TO went to the Bahamas.
He was joking and the fact that he landed and did an interview at ATL's airport should have given those queers at Cold Pizza a clue.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 09:07:52 AM
You know what amazes me and yet it shouldn't? The fact that ESPN, the "worldwide" leader in sports still thinks that TO went to the Bahamas.
He was joking and the fact that he landed and did an interview at ATL's airport should have given those queers at Cold Pizza a clue.
Oh wow. Are you serious?
I expect nothing less from Woody Paige and Skip Bayless.
Yeah.
Bob Glauber is reporting for Cold Pizza outside the NCC and he said that "TO jogged onto the field and for the first time sinec February he looked like a football player". He said that he looks like he is ready to go.
I couldn't catch what he was saying before that, but it sounded like that they have not met yet or that they will meet again around 12-noon. I couldn't catch what he was saying though so I could be wrong...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2136254
Wow, huh? Front page story on ESPN, and they are saying TO won't be practicing because he has a meeting first. Way to be way out of touch with reality. ::) He's been on the field for over 30 minutes and this is what they are feeding the national public
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8742632
Check out these people...LOL. The Eagles won't make the playoffs without TO...TO is only upset because his QB lost the SB for them. :-D
Interesting from an ESPN poll:
10) If all were equally talented, who would you rather have playing for your favorite team?
42.7% A player who causes no problems on the field but has a rap sheet off the field. :o
37.6% A player who causes headaches in the clubhouse but is a good citizen off the field.
19.7% A player who causes no problems on or off the field but is widely known to use steroids.
Update on practice:
Played with the first team and did reps...he's chattier and talking with other teammates.
Stopped for a few minutes, went to Burkholder to do some stretching on the groin...then went back to the first team doing more reps.
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OHMGIHBKDPPC/081705-TO-HPPP.jpg)
Brian Startare on WIP...
He said TO is running with the 1st team...he then ran over to Rick Burkholder and did some stretching on his groin.
He then jogged back over and re-joined the 1st team offense.
Startare also says that he is talking to his teammates and seems a whole lot more "chatty" that at any point before today.
Too slow. :-D :P ;)
Yeah, but mine has a pic. :P
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 09:40:54 AM
Yeah, but mine has a pic. :P
So that was the reason you were too slow...you had to add a picture. :-D
From the official site:
QuoteOwens, who was told to leave training camp one week ago, was visibly more responsive to teammates in the morning practice. It is not known if he and Reid have met yet. Reid will update at 11 a.m.
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/OHMGIHBKDPPC/081705-TO1.jpg)
"I poop on the media"
So this spoiled brat is back at camp, joking, smiling laughing, like nothing happened. I hope Hugh gets a ten yard running start and bursts his spleen with a helmet to the gut.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 09:50:29 AM
So this spoiled brat is back at camp, joking, smiling laughing, like nothing happened. I hope Hugh gets a ten yard running start and bursts his spleen with a helmet to the gut.
Why don't we wait to see what happened before practice? And what happens at the PC...before making that assumption that he's acting like nothing happened.
Meanwhile, now that he's smiling and talking to teammates, he's wrong again? What did you want him to do when he reported? :-\
Some guy is calling in from the NCC and he's pulling a PG and peeking through the bushes...he says that TO is talking and joking around and interacting with everyone.
Take it for what its worth...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 09:53:57 AM
Some guy is calling in from the NCC and he's pulling a PG and peeking through the bushes...he says that TO is talking and joking around and interacting with everyone.
Take it for what its worth...
LOL...someone stealing my mini-camp stalker title!! :o
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 09:52:31 AM
Meanwhile, now that he's smiling and talking to teammates, he's wrong again? What did you want him to do when he reported?
How quickly you forget. I didn't want him to report. I want him to sit his ass at home and rot. If he had reported to camp originally and acted like this, that would have been acceptable. But to throw a tantrum and get kicked out in the first week and then come back and blow sunshine up everyone's ass is ridiculous and infuriating.
He's acting normal again? Must be back on his meds.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 09:52:31 AM
Meanwhile, now that he's smiling and talking to teammates, he's wrong again? What did you want him to do when he reported?
How quickly you forget. I didn't want him to report. I want him to sit his ass at home and rot. If he had reported to camp originally and acted like this, that would have been acceptable. But to throw a tantrum and get kicked out in the first week and then come back and blow sunshine up everyone's ass is ridiculous and infuriating.
So.....you don't want TO if he's going to be normal again? (or his version of normal...aka...last year's actions)
Are you planning on offering up 14 TDs for the offense yourself?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 09:58:13 AM
Are you planning on offering up 14 TDs for the offense yourself?
Once again. I don't think that he'll match last year's numbers and based on his career numbers it would be silly to assume that he will be able to duplicate them. I don't want him on this team and nothing that you say about his touchdowns or his abs will change my mind.
Someone just called in and said that TO and Donnie talked before practice out in the parking lot, off to the side...
Quote from: mikey418 on August 17, 2005, 10:00:32 AM
Someone just called in and said that TO and Donnie talked before practice out in the parking lot, off to the side...
Did they each get head from Cecil Martin?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 10:01:10 AM
Quote from: mikey418 on August 17, 2005, 10:00:32 AM
Someone just called in and said that TO and Donnie talked before practice out in the parking lot, off to the side...
Did they each get head from Cecil Martin?
You know it!
Mikey, as was mentioned by the hosts....had that actually happened, the chopper above or the 10 million media hacks there would have caught that, so I don't know how reliable that was.
The guy that called in said that it was a rumor amongst those outside.
I hope this is resolved....but I don't trust Owens at this point. I hope he's not setting the team up for some sort of big "farg you" during the season.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2005, 10:03:28 AM
I hope this is resolved....but I don't trust Owens at this point. I hope he's not setting the team up for some sort of big "farg you" during the season.
And he'll lose every penny of his bonus. And he'll lose ANY chance of playing anywhere next year. His career will be O-V-E-R.
Yeah, that was just some dude making stuff up.
FWIW...you can watch the video of To coming out and warming up and catching passes in WR drills on the multimedia tab on the PE.com homepage...
Sounds like a farging war zone with the choppers overhead. :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 10:04:05 AM
And he'll lose every penny of his bonus. And he'll lose ANY chance of playing anywhere next year. His career will be O-V-E-R.
Never challenge the overt desperation and stupidity of others.
HAAHAHAHAHA...every time he catches the ball, you hear all of the cameras going NUTS.
This is pretty much the worst video ever made.
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:07:23 AM
This is pretty much the worst video ever made.
Agreed :-D :-D :-D
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:07:23 AM
This is pretty much the worst video ever made.
Like you could even know that.
As much fun as this is...I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll wake up to good news around 6 tonight. :evil
Has anyone said anything about what type of skin moisturizer TO's wearing today? Does he smell of lilacs or passion fruit? Were his clothes wrinkled or well-pressed?
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2005, 10:11:29 AM
Has anyone said anything about what type of skin moisturizer TO's wearing today? Does he smell of lilacs or passion fruit? Were his clothes wrinkled or well-pressed?
He had oatmeal with some Splenda in it this morning....some berries on the side.
I'll keep you updated as more info comes across the PG Wire.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:07:23 AM
This is pretty much the worst video ever made.
Like you could even know that.
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/12/01/images/jon_heder_napoleon_dynamite_interview_top.jpg)
clothes were pressed, it was mentioned in the letter that the birds sent to him.
i think he's said in the past that he uses jerguns lotion.
Quote from: T_Section224 on August 17, 2005, 10:13:38 AM
clothes were pressed, it was mentioned in the letter that the birds sent to him.
i think he's said in the past that he uses jerguns lotion.
Here we go...breaking news....
TO drank water at practice. :o
Good to know he's staying hydrated.
You know, today's a crisper day. Maybe it's just the heat and humidity that makes TO and icehole.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 10:11:23 AM
As much fun as this is...I'm going to bed. Hopefully I'll wake up to good news around 6 tonight. :evil
LOL....yeah right. You're going to be up like every hour to see what is going on :-D
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
LMFAO...this is now showing up in way too many threads
That video has super-manneans.
Just watching the TO at practice video now. It looks like Reggie B is about to kick him in the nuts.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:23:55 AM
Just watching the TO at practice video now. It looks like Reggie B is about to kick him in the nuts.
I can only hope.
Did anyone light him on fire yet?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
Sweet Jesus.
What
The
farg
Was
That?
:'(
It was a tease. All the receivers were just doing the high kick leg stretches.
Or so TO was led to believe....
i
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
Sweet Jesus.
What
The
farg
Was
That?
:'(
It's a video of Pinky doing his rehab.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
Sweet Jesus.
What
The
farg
Was
That?
:'(
General section, nightmare thread. LOL
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 10:28:42 AM
General section, nightmare thread. LOL
He probably knew that much, as my link was
to the thread.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
Sweet Jesus.
What
The
farg
Was
That?
:'(
General section, nightmare thread. LOL
And that is the most disgusting thing I have ever seeeen! :evil
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
Sweet Jesus.
What
The
farg
Was
That?
:'(
F'ed up... :sly
Hey! The attention is getting away from T.O.!
He won't like that one bit. Time for more situps.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2005, 10:35:14 AM
He won't like that one bit.
We should post that video on his site and tell him that if he fargs up, he's subject to that. :evil
PC update:
Reid said that his and TO's conversation was private, didn't go into it much but he did say that it went fine and it only lasted a few minutes
TO practiced and was fine. He might not play on Saturday because he only had limited reps today (due to not wanting to jump in too fast because of his groin, and because he had a short week).
Shocked that we didn't get any more information. Shocked, I say.
Yeah, like they'd subject him to Ray Lewis...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 17, 2005, 10:58:31 AM
Yeah, like they'd subject him to Ray Lewis...
Yeah, as if THAT mattered last year...in either game. :-D
Reid said that his and TO's conversation was private, didn't go into it much but he did say that it went fine
awww andy and TO :-*
next thing you know the big guy will be rubbing TO's groin out
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 11:00:49 AM
next thing you know the big guy will be rubbing TO's groin out
That's Cecil Martin's job.
Kalu just said that TO isn't a distraction, but "idiots" like that guy carrying signs like "TO must go" are distractions. LOL
Did Kalu mention Hollis' rancid farts at all?
They go without saying.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 11:16:22 AM
Did Kalu mention Hollis' rancid farts at all?
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/CCJPFBCAGKIP/TC6_080905.jpg)
I was looking for that pic yesterday for something. That picture is like a black t-shirt...goes with just about anything.
By the way, PG...I hope that wasn't your first attempt at "BOTW".
Quote from: Zanshin on August 17, 2005, 11:21:24 AM
I was looking for that pic yesterday for something. That picture is like a black t-shirt...goes with just about anything.
LOL, I said almost the same thing the other day. :-D
(http://men.style.com/images/gq/features/040105/featureIndex2v.jpg)
< Left without commentary... >
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 11:28:24 AM
(http://men.style.com/images/gq/features/040105/featureIndex2v.jpg)
< Left without commentary... >
Yum. That remings me, I bought and watched Sin City yesterday ;D
let's all make "KALU MUST GO" signs.
Espn still running with this as their caption on all TO pictures:
QuoteOwens is back in camp, but still far from a happy camper.
Quote from: mhunt on August 17, 2005, 11:43:11 AM
let's all make "KALU MUST GO" signs.
Making the sign wouldn't do much good in and of itself.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: mhunt on August 17, 2005, 11:43:11 AM
let's all make "KALU MUST GO" signs.
Making the sign wouldn't do much good in and of itself.
true.
be sure to carry your sign around with you after you make it....preferably, somewhere where kalu will see it.
:sly
Is Kalu going to visit NC sometime soon? Let me know. Thanks.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 11:49:55 AM
Is Kalu going to visit NC sometime soon? Let me know. Thanks.
i'll keep you posted.
btw, kudos.
QuoteREID'S MEETING WITH T.O. 'GOOD'
August 17, 2005
By CHRIS McPHERSON
Head coach Andy Reid said that he met privately for a few minutes with wide reciever Terrell Owens on Wednesday before the team's morning practice.
Reid considered it a "good" meeting. When asked if Owens said all of the right things in the meeting, Reid just said that he was out on the practice field.
Owens practiced, but was held to limited reps by Reid to keep a close watch on his groin injury. Owens did collide with cornerback Sheldon Brown during what was considered by Reid an "aggressive" practice. Brown suffered a leg laceration, but will be fine.
Reid kept everything else about the Owens situation close to the vest saying that any future communications with teammates or coaches about Owens would be done in-house.
"We're going to take it day-by-day and see how things go," Reid said. "It was good to see him back out there. He did a nice job and worked hard."
It has not been determined whether Owens will play this Saturday night in the team's preseason matchup against Baltimore.
TO is temporarily back on my shtein list.
Until that cut on Sheldon Brown's leg has healed.
O:)
Chris Mortensen's live chat is on. This is a reply he had to an Owens question:
CHRIS MORTENSEN
Yes, T.O. practiced. I've spoken with league and player assn. officials who say that in order for the Eagles to take the next step in suspending him, they almost had to let T.O. back on the practice field to see if his actions correspond with this words. I guess I'm expecting TO for that MNF game but Andy Reid will nail him if the prior behavior continues.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on August 17, 2005, 11:58:08 AM
Chris Mortensen's live chat is on. This is a reply he had to an Owens question:
CHRIS MORTENSEN
Yes, T.O. practiced. I've spoken with league and player assn. officials who say that in order for the Eagles to take the next step in suspending him, they almost had to let T.O. back on the practice field to see if his actions correspond with this words. I guess I'm expecting TO for that MNF game but Andy Reid will nail him if the prior behavior continues.
huh? Mort, what are you talking about? No shtein they had to let him on teh field, it was a one-week suspension. ???
I used a green sharpie and an old piece of cardboard. My mommy taught me how to draw "bubble letters".
Mad skillz.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 11:51:11 AM
QuoteREID'S MEETING WITH T.O. 'GOOD'
August 17, 2005
By CHRIS McPHERSON
Head coach Andy Reid said that he met privately for a few minutes with wide reciever Terrell Owens on Wednesday before the team's morning practice.
Reid considered it a "good" meeting. When asked if Owens said all of the right things in the meeting, Reid just said that he was out on the practice field.
Owens practiced, but was held to limited reps by Reid to keep a close watch on his groin injury. Owens did collide with cornerback Sheldon Brown during what was considered by Reid an "aggressive" practice. Brown suffered a leg laceration, but will be fine.
Reid kept everything else about the Owens situation close to the vest saying that any future communications with teammates or coaches about Owens would be done in-house.
"We're going to take it day-by-day and see how things go," Reid said. "It was good to see him back out there. He did a nice job and worked hard."
It has not been determined whether Owens will play this Saturday night in the team's preseason matchup against Baltimore.
TO is temporarily back on my shtein list.
Until that cut on Sheldon Brown's leg has healed.
O:)
He will never leave my shtein list. I still want the Eagles to suspend him for the rest of his contract, ending his career. farg TO.
::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 12:41:44 PM
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Good job! You're four (4) times the girl PG is, douchebag.
I'm glad to see that you've gotten the name calling thing down...so what does that make you...maybe six or seven years old?
The I have nothing but sarcasm to contribute wasn't at you...it was at all the media bs. If i would've been posting those at you, i would've quoted you. So go jump to conclusions somewhere else.
Remind me next time to post a disclaimer for you so you don't get all pissy. **** NOT DIRECTED AT THAWK****
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Quote from: Tomahawk on August 17, 2005, 12:39:07 PM
He will never leave my shtein list. I still want the Eagles to suspend him for the rest of his contract, ending his career. farg TO.
What he said.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 12:45:53 PM
I'm glad to see that you've gotten the name calling thing down...so what does that make you...maybe six or seven years old?
The I have nothing but sarcasm to contribute wasn't at you...it was at all the media bs. If i would've been posting those at you, i would've quoted you. So go jump to conclusions somewhere else.
Remind me next time to post a disclaimer for you so you don't get all pissy. **** NOT DIRECTED AT THAWK****
Sorry about that.
Don't apologize to that dink.
You know that's a racial slur...right?
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050817/capt.pacw10308171419.eagles_owens_pacw103.jpg)
"Eagles lawyers scrambled to determine if TO leaving a big dookie on the practice field this morning constituted unacceptable behavior under the terms of last weekend's letter." Said TO "I think me and Drew found a loophole for how I can show how unhappy I am with my contract without getting Keyshawned."
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 12:59:47 PM
You know that's a racial slur...right?
Thanks for the history lesson. It was offensive slang in the late 60s and early 70s. I'm terribly sorry to all of the North Vietnamese guerrillas that I've offended.
Now shut your word hole and go back to lurking.
Yeah...did it ever occur to you that i might be asian and that a word like that (while used mostly in the vietnam war) still offends me? I think part of the TOS agreement that you agreed to prohibits you from using any racial terms. Maybe you need to read it again.
The N word was used in the past...but if you say it to a black person now, you get killed. So...what's the difference for an Asian person? I forgot, you respect noone. I think you need to watch your mouth with that stuff man.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050817/capt.pacw10208171408.eagles_owens_pacw102.jpg)
Aw... look at 'em heading off into the sunset together... :-D
"For good times...
and bad times...
I'll be on your side forever more...
That's what friends are for..."
Just go give some people some background on the "To Must Go" shtein. A local crap pop radio station, q 102.1 had a contest to who could make the best and biggest "To Must Go" sign. I forget what the prize was, but it was probably to the Ashlee Simpson or Frankie J concert. They even made a remix of Lil John's song, "Let's Go," replacing the refrain with "TO.... MUST GO."
PS. The Lil John song is already a remix in itself, since they take parts of Crazy Train by Ozzy. :sly
A fight going across 2 threads...maybe you guys should start a "fight" thread.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 01:07:52 PM
Yeah...did it ever occur to you that i might be asian and that a word like that (while used mostly in the vietnam war) still offends me? I think part of the TOS agreement that you agreed to prohibits you from using any racial terms. Maybe you need to read it again.
The N word was used in the past...but if you say it to a black person now, you get killed. So...what's the difference for an Asian person? I forgot, you respect noone. I think you need to watch your mouth with that stuff man.
Christ you're uptight. Sorry if I offended anyone by calling this farging redneck a dink. His sensitivity knows no bounds and for anyone else who felt offended by my terribly terrible slur I sincerely apologize.
Now get off my sack you farging hick.
Your apology is accepted rjs...thank you for being man enough to apologize. I appreciate it sincerely.
You know that in Spaceballs the little guys on that sand planet....all they say is dink dink.
Why was my apology not accepted, jackass?
Actually it's more like, "Dink dink da da da dink dink dink.....dink dink" Or something..... :paranoid
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 01:12:05 PM
Christ you're uptight. Sorry if I offended anyone by calling this farging redneck a dink. His sensitivity knows no bounds and for anyone else who felt offended by my terribly terrible slur I sincerely apologize.
Now get off my sack you farging hick.
You're getting soft. :P
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 17, 2005, 01:15:54 PM
Why was my apology not accepted, jackass?
I sent you a PM man...what the hell. Jesus..i'll do it publicly so everyone can see.
Apology accepted THawk.
that was a very angry acceptance, it doesn't count.
"Here you are all equally worthless, we do not look down on......" :yay
no on ever apologizes to me.
I heard there was even a plane with a TO must Go banner. Way to go Q 102... excellent contest.
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 01:13:22 PM
Your apology is accepted rjs...thank you for being man enough to apologize. I appreciate it sincerely.
Are you asian & really offended or just making a point?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 01:23:22 PM
no on ever apologizes to me.
where the hell have you been anyway?
Quote from: T_Section224 on August 17, 2005, 01:22:00 PM
that was a very angry acceptance, it doesn't count.
I PM'd him again. THawk...did you get my PM?
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2005, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: The Waco Kid on August 17, 2005, 01:13:22 PM
Your apology is accepted rjs...thank you for being man enough to apologize. I appreciate it sincerely.
Are you asian & really offended or just making a point?
Ummmmm...yeah. I wouldn't care otherwise.
:-D
alright all you idiots, shut up already.
Ummmmm...yeah. I wouldn't care otherwise.
so racial slurs only offend you if they are against your own race...kind of ignorant if you ask me
fwiw dink is a word used as a non specific generic insult...like jerk...dope...idiot ect...i hardly think dook was using it in a racial context when he said it
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 01:34:05 PM
Ummmmm...yeah. I wouldn't care otherwise.
so racial slurs only offend you if they are against your own race...kind of ignorant if you ask me
fwiw dink is a word used as a non specific generic insult...like jerk...dope...idiot ect...i hardly think dook was using it in a racial context when he said it
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 01:27:39 PM
:-D
alright all you idiots, shut up already.
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"Hey... can all you hypocrites stay on the topic... ME?!?!"
IGY posted what I was too lazy to post. Buttholes.
And no I'll shut up about it. Buttholes.
Could you guys please stop having gay buttsex in the non-gay non-buttsex threads?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2005, 01:40:56 PM
Could you guys please stop having gay buttsex in the non-gay non-buttsex threads?
Since this is the 3473rd TO thread, I think it qualifies as pro-gay-buttsex. But your ridicule is duly noted.
"I farted again."
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/LJFEKOBKDPPC/TC7_081705.jpg)
All "duel income no kids" couples out there are infuriated. Please apologize to them, also.
Quote from: sallad selgae on August 17, 2005, 01:43:52 PM
All "duel income no kids" couples out there are infuriated. Please apologize to them, also.
I wish my income had a second income to duel with.
Quote from: sallad selgae on August 17, 2005, 01:43:52 PM
All "duel income no kids" couples out there are infuriated. Please apologize to them, also.
Yeah. The wife and I demand it. MURP and PG aren't too damn happy about it, either.
Paychecks with pistols at ten paces. Now say it with a lisp!
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 01:43:36 PM
"I farted again."
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PS....why is hollis still wearing that massive brace on his elbow?
Hollis may be a dumb piece of shtein, but you can't help but love the guy.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 10:13:16 AM
it's worse than the nightmare video, which pretty much proves it!
No, it's simply not.
Need I remind you? (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=16033.0)
OMG.... Of all the things on the internet that's gotta be top 5 of the creepiest things I never want to see again. Yikes.
Can someone PLEASE shut Ray Lewis up?
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Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 01:54:03 PM
Can someone PLEASE shut Ray Lewis up?
Sorry. Too afraid of getting knifed.
Hire a plane with a sign.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 17, 2005, 12:48:50 PM
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And if you ever touch my Krispy Kreme's again you'll never put another foot on a football field again... now get back to work, beotch!
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 01:23:22 PM
no on ever apologizes to me.
where the hell have you been anyway?
the off season is too lonely and sad....and i am reminded too much of the season ending loss, even if it was the superbowl....so although i visit daily i take a break from posting.
i have my own lil off season.
but im reporting to camp now...if TO can do it so can i.
but i aint happy about it...not till i get some funky title or position!
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 02:01:50 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 17, 2005, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 01:23:22 PM
no on ever apologizes to me.
where the hell have you been anyway?
the off season is too lonely and sad....and i am reminded too much of the season ending loss, even if it was the superbowl....so although i visit daily i take a break from posting.
i have my own lil off season.
but im reporting to camp now...if TO can do it so can i.
but i aint happy about it...not till i get some funky title or position!
LOL! Funny post! :D Welcome back.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 02:01:50 PM
but i aint happy about it...not till i get some funky title or position!
You still don't have a title? That's farged up.
You should hire Drew Rosenbitch and hold out for the rest of camp.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 01:23:22 PM
no on ever apologizes to me.
Eat shtein and die.
last i checked my nick here is retard...not 246. i aint yo kid. for u to disrespect me like that...im a grown man....and thawk talk about hypocrites...
ok sorry last post of me emulating TO. ill stop now
Title idea for Magical_Retard: "Affirmative Action at Work"
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 02:07:27 PM
last i checked my nick here is retard...not 246. i aint yo kid. for u to disrespect me like that...im a grown man....and thawk talk about hypocrites...
ok sorry last post of me emulating TO. ill stop now
I want to assume that you knew it was a joke, but with the sensitivity meter going through the goddamned roof today, this post has become necessary. I hate you all.
AHAHHAHHAHHHAHAAA!
Look at the new story:
QuotePolice deny 'special treatment' for T.O. at airport
By Thomas J. Gibbons
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Did Eagles receiver Terrell Owens receive special treatment from Philadelphia police when he got a short ride in a police car Tuesday evening after he got off a plane from Atlanta, avoiding media and fans waiting inside the airport terminal?
Not so, said police Inspector William Colarulo.
"It was not special treatment," said Colarulo at a media briefing outside Police Headquarters late this morning.
It was all about safety and security issues, he added.
"Last night, when Mr. Owens showed up at the airport, there were numerous people, representatives from the media as well as fans, spectators and other people that had to use the terminal," explained Colarulo, commander of the police Public Affairs Unit.
"The airport police supervisor made an assessment - and a correct one, I may add - that based on the circumstances, based on security issues and safety issues, he made a decision to have Mr. Owens escorted to the front of the terminal where Mr. Owens was allowed to get into his own vehicle and leave the airport," Colarulo said.
Police said Owens was taken down some steps at the gate to a waiting police car on the tarmac.
Once Owens got into his car, he was on his own, police said.
WHY is this even a story? I'd EXPECT him to have some protection coming back with swarms of fans all over the place.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 02:07:27 PM
last i checked my nick here is retard...not 246. i aint yo kid. for u to disrespect me like that...im a grown man....and thawk talk about hypocrites...
ok sorry last post of me emulating TO. ill stop now
I want to assume that you knew it was a joke, but with the sensitivity meter going off the goddamned roof today, this post has become necessary. I hate you all.
yeah man its all for shiits and giggles.
and pg thats a story cause there is no real story as of now..TO didnt come back and cause any more problems as of yet so they are scrambling.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2005, 02:11:59 PM
and pg thats a story cause there is no real story as of now..TO didnt come back and cause any more problems as of yet so they are scrambling.
LOL...good point. Uh-oh...he's there! He's practicing! He and Reid talked and it went well! He was talking and joking with teammates? OMG! What will we write about?
Tomorrow's Article:
"Yeah, but how long will it really last?" by Skip Bayless
thats a legitimate question though...even for a disgrace like bayless
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 02:21:12 PM
thats a legitimate question though...even for a disgrace like bayless
Too legitimate for Bayless.
Better change it to "It Will Not Last."
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 17, 2005, 01:49:57 PM
PS....why is hollis still wearing that massive brace on his elbow?
to hide the hoagie of course...duh
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2005, 02:16:56 PM
Tomorrow's Article:
"Yeah, but how long will it really last?" by Skip Bayless
And I'll make sure to post if for you, bro...
:yay
PS: Should we call Jay & wake him up with the "bad" news?
>:D
ESPN put a negative spin on his return as expected.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 10:00:30 AM
I don't think that he'll match last year's numbers and based on his career numbers it would be silly to assume that he will be able to duplicate them.
Your kiddin' right? Your must have forgot about Jeff Garcia, the guy he put up most of his stats with. IMO, he does better than last year if he plays all 16 games.
Quote from: shorebird on August 17, 2005, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 10:00:30 AM
I don't think that he'll match last year's numbers and based on his career numbers it would be silly to assume that he will be able to duplicate them.
Your kiddin' right? Your must have forgot about Jeff Garcia, the guy he put up most of his stats with. IMO, he does better than last year if he plays all 16 games.
For all of the shtein that Garcia gets, he was a good QB. Donovan is better, but saying that TO thrived inspite of Garcia is ridiculous.
Quote from: Monster on August 17, 2005, 03:39:33 PM
ESPN put a negative spin on his return as expected.
Waaaahhhh....I'm bored and nobody threw a tantrum (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2136526) :(
QuoteIn the opening segments of practice, Owens loped through skeleton plays, primarily aligned in the left or right slots, taking every other snap off. Then he worked a while with trainer Rick Burkholder, off the side, stretching with a big, green inflated ball. After that, a "team" drill, in which he snagged his first pass of the day (at precisely 9:13), but not until it ricocheted off his chest before Owens grabbed it out of the air on the rebound. At 9:38, McNabb whipped a strike between defenders to Owens in the left-hook zone. And at 9:45, the two hooked up on a bullet over the middle.
Unbelievably gay that he wrote this.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 03:57:29 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 17, 2005, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2005, 10:00:30 AM
I don't think that he'll match last year's numbers and based on his career numbers it would be silly to assume that he will be able to duplicate them.
Your kiddin' right? Your must have forgot about Jeff Garcia, the guy he put up most of his stats with. IMO, he does better than last year if he plays all 16 games.
For all of the shtein that Garcia gets, he was a good QB. Donovan is better, but saying that TO thrived inspite of Garcia is ridiculous.
Garcia sucks. McNabb is 10 times the qb that flag is. And I didin't say TO thrived inspite of Garcia, but he thrives because of McNabb, and will continue to do so this year if he ends up playing all year long. It's kinda' rediculous to think otherwise.
And no, I'm not sorry if I offended any gay people.
TO will not catch 14 TDs this year. I've given my reasoning for this repeatedly in one of the numerous other threads dedicated to this topic.
If he plays all year long he gets more than last years 1200 yds., I'd say he does around 1500, and you might think I'm rediculous to say that he just might get more than 14 TD's. Look at the other recievers on this team. All good young players, yes, but not experianced. Greg Lewis is a seasoned veteran compared to every reciever except TO. Who's number do you think will be called more? TO had 77 receptions last year without playing the last two games of the season. He gets more this year, which I feel translates into higher stats.
My predictions:
1400 plus yds.
100 plus recepts.
14 td's is a lot for anyone playing 14 or 16 games. This is the one stat you could say he might not improve on, but that would mean more TD's for another player. Still, I'll say for the sake of debate that he betters that stat also.
I just don't see how you can feel he won't better last years stats when he didn't even play all the games. And Pinky is out this year also. The door is wide open for him to have a career year.
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Irregardless, I can't wait for this season to end (with a SuperBowl victory), and this dumbass to be off this team. Farg Owens. Hard.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 17, 2005, 04:27:26 PM
Irregardless
People who say that are with the gays. :P
It's simple really.
Inexperienced WRs. Plus TO coming off a monster year. That equals even more attention than he already gets. (The beginning of last year was when TO did most of his damage, especially touchdowns-wise. Why? Because the common belief was that AR would still spread the ball around evenly and TO woule be a huge upgrade but wouldn't dominate our offense. Oops, so much for that idea. But what happened late in the season? Teams like the skins basically just blanketed him and let the rest of the O do their thing... we struggled mightily in that game.) He'll get more attention b/c no one will respect the other WRs. AR, if he's got a brain in his head, will take advantage of that.
And don't discount all of this drama having an effect on his output. TO will work hard on the field b/c his ego won't let him do anything else, but what about #5's outlook on things? What about AR using the extra attention on TO to his advantage?
TO will have a good year if he plays for us b/c he's a really good WR. But don't espect what you saw last year.
Quote from: shorebird on August 17, 2005, 04:19:41 PM
If he plays all year long... I just don't see how you can feel he won't better last years stats when he didn't even play all the games. And Pinky is out this year also. The door is wide open for him to have a career year.
Look if everything is peachy, they play as well or better than last year, and he(& Donovan) are healthy. He won't approach 14 tds. They will still rest him when blow-outs occur and when we lock up playoff standings. He won't get gratuitous numbers. Reid doesn't cater to fantasy owners and stat monkeys. Our schedule is fairly easy considering we went to the Bowl. NFC west and afc West plus our division doesn't strike me as hard-core competition....Yes this is slightly confident, but why wouldn't I be? \m/ :cfhead NFC Ownage
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 17, 2005, 04:27:26 PM
Irregardless, I can't wait for this season to end (with a SuperBowl victory), and this dumbass to be off this team. Farg Owens. Hard.
And what if he gets the league and Superbowl MVP? Not that I don't already know the answer to that question after reading your post for however many years it's been. :-D
I'm so starved for a Superbowl victory, I don't care about his assinineness. He hasn't killed anyone, drove drunk, beat his woman, or anything else, let him act like an ass while we win the big game, I don't give a shtein, long as he's on the field playing like the pro-bowler he is. I'll let Andy Reid and Jeff Lurie make the call of him being an Eagle or not.
if he does less than 14 tds its because its EFFING HARD TO DO!
no other reason
put up specific numbers if you must...but if TO plays a full season hes going to have a big year...period
<<< From ESPN.Com >>>
Quote"We can win the Super Bowl without him," said Tom Cooper, who woke up at 4 a.m. to make the two-hour ride to Philadelphia from Wildwood Sea Isle City, N.J. "He's a selfish, greedy bum. We don't need him causing problems around here."
Fixed.
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2005, 04:35:41 PM
<<< From ESPN.Com >>>
Quote"We can win the Super Bowl without him," said Tom Cooper, who woke up at 4 a.m. to make the two-hour ride to Philadelphia from Wildwood Sea Isle City, N.J. "He's a selfish, greedy bum. We don't need him causing problems around here."
Fixed.
:-D
Whoever wrote that is an idiot. >:D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 04:34:16 PM
put up specific numbers if you must...but if TO plays a full season hes going to have a big year...period
Predicting stats is no different than you asking us to go on record and predict wether or not he even plays for the Eagles this year or not.
Not to mention that your prediction on that subject isn't looking too good right now.
Predicting stats is no different than you asking us to go on record and predict wether or not he even plays for the Eagles this year or not.
and?...what the hell are you talking about
Not to mention that your prediction on that subject isn't looking too good right now.
because he made it thru ONE practice....lolol
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 04:34:16 PM
if he does less than 14 tds its because its EFFING HARD TO DO!
no other reason
I agree
So when do you expect the Eagles to trade for a receiver since they are?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2005, 04:41:16 PM
Predicting stats is no different than you asking us to go on record and predict wether or not he even plays for the Eagles this year or not.
and?...what the hell are you talking about
Not to mention that your prediction on that subject isn't looking too good right now.
because he made it thru ONE practice....lolol
You didn't even think he'd be back. You mention "Put up specific numbers if you must". I was trying to point out that other than the fact me posting numbers is purley football related, it's not much different than your go on record about TO thread.
..........by the way, will your lazy ass ever use the quote button so people will know who your posting about?
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050817/capt.pacw10408171417.topix_eagles_owens_pacw104.jpg)
:-D
Look at Mark Eckel (The Eckinator) and Les Bowen (aka Chris Elliot) in the background. Is Bowen playing a little pocket pool? :paranoid
from espn:
QuoteTotally Oblivious
Terrell OwensA quick meeting with his coach. No acknowledgement of his QB, the media, the fans, or his teammates. Yes, Terrell Owens was back at practice Wednesday ... and back in his insulated bubble
That is complete BULLshtein. Where do they GET this garbage?
They make it up, just like we do. And I'm sick of them stealing our gimmick.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2005, 08:20:46 PM
They make it up, just like we do. And I'm sick of them stealing our gimmick.
I know. Next thing you know this will be the caption under TO's pic:
QuoteMinutes after his shocking quotes were released to the greater Philadelphia cable television audience demanding a trade, Owens got his wish
I'd be on the phone with Hoyda so fast if they did that ...
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2005, 08:23:28 PM
I'd be on the phone with Hoyda so fast if they did that ...
haha :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2005, 06:59:11 PM
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:-D
Look at Mark Eckel (The Eckinator) and Les Bowen (aka Chris Elliot) in the background. Is Bowen playing a little pocket pool? :paranoid
That looks too fat to be Les.
(http://www.thaiallstars.com/photos/photo16/102103to1.JPG)
QuoteESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports that Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens hates Thai and loves Urkel.
Kearse, Sheldon and Andrews saw the plane from Q102's Chio fly overhead with "T.O. MUST GO!" (http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/media/video/eagles/081705-plane.wmv)
Chio from Q102
"T.O. MUST GO!"
Terrell Owens
Now listen to Andrews' response. Is he really that dumb? :-D
Yeh, I posted about the plane and the idiot q.102.1 morning show. What's worse then hearing Eskin talk about the TO situation? Hearing Diego or whoever call people idiots because he predicted TO would do this... Because Diego is a football guru apparently, now that he has a morning show on a pop station that plays Ashlee Simpson and Ryan Cabrerea.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 17, 2005, 10:42:58 PM
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Leave it to TO to find a way to get his face in a picture twice.
Quote from: jeffreyjpa on August 18, 2005, 01:16:25 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 17, 2005, 10:42:58 PM
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Leave it to TO to find a way to get his face in a picture twice.
Don't forget TO's "mini-me" peeking out from in-between them.
So the national media keeps putting TO in the headlines as not talking to coaches or players...basically doing what he did last week at Lehigh....but all of the local guys who were there say this?
QuoteBut T.O. is back with the team. Yesterday he worked hard and chatted and joked with several teammates (not including McNabb). Apparently, he didn't say anything to Reid that would keep him from being reinstated; contrary to a Channel 10 prediction on Tuesday, Owens did not read any sort of sarcastic "apology" to the media or acknowledge reporters in any way.
Classic.
Did anyone catch NFL Live either last night or this morning?
Talk about classic.
They drone on incessantly about T.O. for the first five minutes analyzing (incorrectly, I might add) everything about the situation, then they do a 180 and start complaining about the coverage. They even showed a quote from Peyton Manning and an audio snipper from Ray Lewis complaining about the situation.
Talk about hypocrites...
:-D
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 18, 2005, 07:44:58 AM
Did anyone catch NFL Live either last night or this morning?
Talk about classic.
They drone on incessantly about T.O. for the first five minutes analyzing (incorrectly, I might add) everything about the situation, then they do a 180 and start complaining about the coverage. They even showed a quote from Peyton Manning and an audio snipper from Ray Lewis complaining about the situation.
Talk about hypocrites...
:-D
Yeah, I've complained a few times on here about the RayRay thing. They played it all day on ESPN and on WIP.
sportscenter is the most disgraceful...their teaser this morning is "two big name nfl players rip TO"...then leading into the actual story they talk about how peyton manning and ray lewis are sick and tired of TO and his antics...then play the clips where all ray ray and manning do is blast the media/sportscenter for the incessant coverage of the TO story
is was a travesty that the anchors with a straight face could present it the way they did
QuoteT.O., REID MEETING UNEVENTFUL, BUT . . . .
Working the cell phone while on an outing with the family at a Western Pennsylvania amusement park, we learned that the much-hyped and highly-anticipated summit between Eagles coach Andy Reid and prodigal receiver Terrell Owens was, in the end, much ado about nothing.
Reid, we're told by a source close to the action, was respectful to Owens, and Owens told Reid that Owens intends to honor his contract, but that the Pro Bowler still isn't happy with the terms of his current deal, which will pay him $3.25 million in salary in 2005 and another $250,000 in so-called "likely to be earned incentives."
Though Owens apparently has gotten the message, for now, that he needs to behave and perform, we don't rule out another eruption at some point in the remaining months of 2005. Some of our readers have even floated the possibility that Owens would play out the regular season and then withhold services in the playoffs until he gets a new deal; we've learned, however, that this option isn't on the table for Owens, since a walk out at any point between now and the conclusion of the postseason would permit the team to freeze his contract in place, requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006.
The most likely outcome at this point is that Owens will play hard this year and try to help the team win the Super Bowl. Then, after the season, it's unlikely that the Eagles will pay him $7.5 million in option and roster boni, making him an early March free agent. And at that point, Owens will have a chance to get more than that on the open market from another team.
As of right now, there likely aren't many/any other teams that would pay him more than $7.5 million up front. But if he has another strong year and if he manages to put the ugliness of the past few weeks behind him, other teams (e.g., the taterskins) will come calling in 2006, with a truckload of cash in tow.
Until then, of course, Owens assumes the risk of injury or ineffectiveness. And that's one of the big reasons he wanted to re-do his deal in '05. If, after all, he blows out a knee next week, neither the Eagles nor anyone else will pay him $7.5 million in March 2006. But now that he apparently realizes that there will be no new deal in Philly, he'll go about his business and try to make himself as attractive as possible to another team come 2006.
What about the possibility that the Eagles will pay him $7.5 million and keep his rights for '06 and beyond, you ask? If Owens has the kind of season for the ages that makes the Eagles forget all about recent events, Owens will want much more than $7.5 million in March 2006; thus, if the team chooses to tie him up contractually, they'll be buying themselves another major offseason headache.
So our best guess is that, if Owens manages not to get himself suspended, it's one more year and done in Philly. Where he goes from there -- and how much money he receives -- remains to be seen.
since a walk out at any point between now and the conclusion of the postseason would permit the team to freeze his contract in place, requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006.
thats bs if its true..if at any point during the season he were to walk out he should have to forfeit this seasons entire salary...not just have the same terms going into next year
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2005, 08:35:57 AM
since a walk out at any point between now and the conclusion of the postseason would permit the team to freeze his contract in place, requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006.
thats bs if its true..if at any point during the season he were to walk out he should have to forfeit this seasons entire salary...not just have the same terms going into next year
That's exactly what I got from that though...
"Requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006"
Seems to me that he'll have to work for that $3.25 mil all over again.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 18, 2005, 08:32:49 AM
T.O., REID MEETING UNEVENTFUL, BUT . . . .
.................. And at that point, Owens will have a chance to get more than that on the open market from another team.
As of right now, there likely aren't many/any other teams that would pay him more than $7.5 million up front. But if he has another strong year and if he manages to put the ugliness of the past few weeks behind him, other teams (e.g., the taterskins) will come calling in 2006, with a truckload of cash in tow............................................
:-D :-D :-D
Don't know who wrote this since the quote is uncredited but they sure is funny...
That's exactly what I got from that though...
"Requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006"
Seems to me that he'll have to work for that $3.25 mil all over again.
right but it doesnt say there would be any penalty for salary already earned...if he walked out on the team in the playoffs he should have to pay back some of or all his signing bonus and the money he made for the 05 regular season
It's from PFT.com...
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2005, 08:45:10 AM
That's exactly what I got from that though...
"Requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006"
Seems to me that he'll have to work for that $3.25 mil all over again.
right but it doesnt say there would be any penalty for salary already earned...if he walked out on the team in the playoffs he should have to pay back some of or all his signing bonus and the money he made for the 05 regular season
Puuleeeze! This is a non-issue! TO will not walk out in the playoffs!
A) That will be his only chance for a big payday. It is his only chance for redemption. If he's not in the playoffs and not in the Superbowl he has accomplished nothing. A good regular season will not be enough to wipe the slate clean.
B)There is no way TO's ego would allow him to miss the playoffs.
You're sounding like sportscenter, trying to make something out of nothing.
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Puuleeeze! This is a non-issue! TO will not walk out in the playoffs!
A) That will be his only chance for a big payday. It is his only chance for redemption. If he's not in the playoffs and not in the Superbowl he has accomplished nothing. A good regular season will not be enough to wipe the slate clean.
B)There is no way TO's ego would allow him to miss the playoffs.
You're sounding like sportscenter, trying to make something out of nothing.
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Plus what team would take a guy whos vindictiveness would allow him skip out on a team in the playoffs. Even Ricky Williams thinks that's messed up. :crazy
Puuleeeze! This is a non-issue! TO will not walk out in the playoffs!
A) That will be his only chance for a big payday. It is his only chance for redemption. If he's not in the playoffs and not in the Superbowl he has accomplished nothing. A good regular season will not be enough to wipe the slate clean.
B)There is no way TO's ego would allow him to miss the playoffs.
You're sounding like sportscenter, trying to make something out of nothing.
pump your brakes homie
pump this
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2005, 08:45:10 AM
That's exactly what I got from that though...
"Requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006"
Seems to me that he'll have to work for that $3.25 mil all over again.
right but it doesnt say there would be any penalty for salary already earned...if he walked out on the team in the playoffs he should have to pay back some of or all his signing bonus and the money he made for the 05 regular season
Unless he's dead, there is no way that TO would walk out during the playoffs. It would absolutely be the end of his football career. He couldn't even fake an injury and get away with it since he's already proven last year that he can come back and perform. I think it TO makes it through the first 8 games of the season without incident then he'll be around for the entire year.
The only week that really concerns me is the bye week. I'm hoping that TO doesn't get starved for media attention during the 2 week break and goes out and says/does something stupid.
Quote from: SSgt PSN on August 18, 2005, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2005, 08:45:10 AM
That's exactly what I got from that though...
"Requiring him to play under the 2005 terms again in 2006"
Seems to me that he'll have to work for that $3.25 mil all over again.
right but it doesnt say there would be any penalty for salary already earned...if he walked out on the team in the playoffs he should have to pay back some of or all his signing bonus and the money he made for the 05 regular season
Unless he's dead, there is no way that TO would walk out during the playoffs. It would absolutely be the end of his football career. He couldn't even fake an injury and get away with it since he's already proven last year that he can come back and perform. I think it TO makes it through the first 8 games of the season without incident then he'll be around for the entire year.
The only week that really concerns me is the bye week. I'm hoping that TO doesn't get starved for media attention during the 2 week break and goes out and says/does something stupid.
Count me among the group that thinks he will not be able to walk out of the playoffs if he is dead. I know this is prob contrary to what some people still believe. God bless 'em. We all have to believe in something. Good point about the bye week. We all know something is going to happen sometime. If we make through 8 weeks, I guess we should consider ourselfs lucky.
TO, due to his adamant adherence to incessent stupidity, will be benched long before the playoffs.
Just for the record...if anyone is dead, he is -- inherently-- not walking anywhere. Unless he's the living dead, but that's a whole different issue.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 18, 2005, 01:34:02 PM
Just for the record...if anyone is dead, he is -- inherently-- not walking anywhere. Unless he's the living dead, but that's a whole different issue.
Go and watch "Dawn of the Dead" and tell me that dead people can't walk or even run.
Now can they catch a football is what we should really be concerned about.
Zombies seem to be able to catch people all the time no matter how fast or slow they move. Just coat a ball with brains and/or blood and we're good to go!
I can't understand obviously unnecessary apostrophe's.
What?! You don't think TO could rise from the dead?? Blasphemy! I say, Blasphemy!!
Quote from: Eagles 3x on August 18, 2005, 01:48:28 PM
What?! You don't think TO could rise from the dead?? Blasphemy! I say, Blasphemy!!
That would be awesome if he could. Then we could just keep killing the fargneck over and over again.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 18, 2005, 01:50:19 PMThat would be awesome if he could. Then we could just keep killing the fargneck over and over again.
Or in your case, sucking him off.
Quote from: hbionic on August 18, 2005, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 18, 2005, 01:50:19 PMThat would be awesome if he could. Then we could just keep killing the fargneck over and over again.
Or in my case, sucking him off.
Necrohomocholo.
Quote from: Eagles 3x on August 18, 2005, 01:48:28 PM
What?! You don't think TO could rise from the dead?? Blasphemy! I say, Blasphemy!!
Uh isn't he Jesus? ???