article (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/maddennfl2006/preview_6122221.html)
visioncone is their new selling point. guess everyone will be the Colts next year.
here is the IGN version. link (http://sports.ign.com/articles/604/604010p1.html?fromint=1)
They get exclusive rights, and this is what they come up with? :(
i would be happy if they just fixed the existing bugs and stuff.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 15, 2005, 02:01:15 PM
i would be happy if they just fixed the existing bugs and stuff.
It's not in the budget.
I think its going to suck. To much to do before the snap.
And it looks kinda stupid. Ah well, I didn't plan on buying it anyway.
Maybe they'll come out with a whole slew of Cone features. I'd like a Cone of Silence feature for John and Al.
BOOM!
That seems like alot to do. Its hard enough sometimes just to sit in the pocket for a few seconds. I like the idea of controlling wether its a high pass(jump) or if its thrown behind the receiver. That helps depending on how the d-back is defending. Or if you have a smaller defender, u can just throw high passes and have your receiver out-jump them. Other than that it sounds like a pain in the ass, but im sure is easy to master after you play it a bunch of times.
I persoanlly wanted to see a offensive hit stick. Maybe combo, like R1 and hit stick for a sick juke move or R2 for an extra strong stiff arm. Or hold triangle and hit stick and just run the defender over. Of course if the defender hit the hit stick also then it would be up to that players ratings to see which player wins the contact situation. I think that would be awesome.
Another improvement they need to work on is overall movement when tackling. ESPN's tackling sequences are more realistic. I'd like to see players who run into each other actually be effected, players that arn't necesarily involved with the play. I also think they need a jump button when controlling the runner. Especially when diving for firstdowns, touchdowns and goal-line runs or sneaks. You could be able to dive high, hurdle or dive low. I like how in 05 you make a dive when running down the sideline for a touchdown, but 100 percent of the time if a defender hits u in the air he completly stops u, wether hes a linebacker or d-back. In reality some backs are bigger and will plow through. Id like to see that implemented.
From the article:
QuoteAs one of the producers for Madden NFL 2006 recently told us, Madden players choose pass plays roughly 70 percent of the time when playing the game.
I didn't know that Andy Reid was such a Madden fan! :D
They should get rid of glitches, bitches!
in 2005, i tried to play an entire season with running every play. i did it in 2 days when i had the flu.
i finished with a 10-6 record, buckhalter had 1700 yard, westbrook had over 2800. ritchie had abour 400 and McNabb had about 700.... TO held out by week 10 wanting a raise :-D
Basically all I do is pass. Should help me, I guess.
more Madden info and screen shots (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/606/606940p1.html)
and dont get to hyped about that commercial. According to the article, that Madden commercial on during the draft was an artists vision of what the next gen console Madden may look like. :sly
That NFL exclusivity still bugs me.
Doesn't bother me at all. I'll be happy playing ESPN AFL 2k6. :yay
Quote from: General_Failure on April 28, 2005, 01:22:04 PM
Doesn't bother me at all. I'll be happy playing ESPN AFL 2k6. :yay
sorry. ea gobbled up exclusive AFL rights too.
i think sega, or someone took the MLB rights starting next year.
Visual Concepts has the MLB rights...same folks that brought you the NFL2kX series.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 28, 2005, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on April 28, 2005, 01:22:04 PM
Doesn't bother me at all. I'll be happy playing ESPN AFL 2k6. :yay
sorry. ea gobbled up exclusive AFL rights too.
Damnit! If they have the rights to the CFL too then I'm switching to eXtreme Curling.
Actual cover:
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/FJFOHMFNMKPB/mcnabb_madden_050510.jpg)
Meh.
They could put Freddie Mitchell on the cover and I'd still get it.
Nice, I have a charcoal drawing on McNabb in a similar position. Can't wait for this game.
Quote from: mussa on May 10, 2005, 04:12:36 PM
Nice, I have a charcoal drawing on McNabb in a similar position.
:sly
We don't ban someone for their sexual orientation. After all, hbionic's still here.
Quote from: General_Failure on May 10, 2005, 04:16:07 PM
We don't ban someone for their sexual orientation. After all, hbionic's still here.
yea, but what about borlya? liar!
Why's the field 2 miles wide? (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/maddennfl2006/screens_6122221.html?page=0002) Looks like two Midget Pop Warner teams on a full size field.
I call dibs on the Argonauts!
Quote from: TexasEagle on May 10, 2005, 08:09:52 PM
Why's the field 2 miles wide? (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/maddennfl2006/screens_6122221.html?page=0002) Looks like two Midget Pop Warner teams on a full size field.
I think that view is nice, lets you see more of the field when passing. Im pumped for this even though, EA has turned it into a monopoly, well kinda.
:-\
New madden info (http://www.vgsportsinc.com/e3/day2.html)
from the looks of it, the graphics took a giant step back
(http://www.vgsportsinc.com/e3/images/1.jpg)
he designed that on some madden play design program the "hardcore ballers" use.
so, everyone buying it tomorrow?
i'm getting married on saturday...i'm not allowed to buy it until we get back from the honeymoon :-D :paranoid
even if that wasnt the case, this year i think i would have waited to read reviews and maybe take it for a test drive.
well i got a reserved copy at toys r us, paid 10 bucks. the receipts says expected date of arrival 8-10 -8-13, i was like what the farg??! so im gonna call tomorrow and ask about that, otherwise, I'll just buy it a blockbuster and gte my 10 bucks back so i can play it tomorrow. im really stoked about the new passing additions. :yay
Quote from: MURP on August 08, 2005, 03:47:53 PM
so, everyone buying it tomorrow?
nah. I've played the Sega version for so long, I'm not looking forward to making the switch. and it doesn't sound like they did all that much. certainly not worth $50+
$45.99 at amazon.com.
Saw a new commercial for it with McNabb, playing against the Steelers in snow. At least it was new to me.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 08, 2005, 04:11:30 PM
$45.99 at amazon.com.
plus tax, shipping and handling.
Since I have a big exam at the end of September, I am not going to buy it until then. You can bet I'll be playing it SILLY from then on. SILLY!
so what FF... didnt ya play video game through college?
I'm planning on picking it up tomorrow. I'm not crazy enough to try and get it tonight at midnight. i'd rather play it tomorrow after a day of work where i'm NOT insanely sleep deprived.
i didn't reserve it because i've never had to. I figure it's the NFL exclusive game so i shouldn't have a problem finding it.
i just want the roster update. Pinky on IR, Billy Mac in the starting lineup. I'll probably pick up Koren Drunkenson and dominate my franchise vs my neighbor (Steelers fan).
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 08, 2005, 04:33:33 PM
I'm planning on picking it up tomorrow. I'm not crazy enough to try and get it tonight at midnight. i'd rather play it tomorrow after a day of work where i'm NOT insanely sleep deprived.
i didn't reserve it because i've never had to. I figure it's the NFL exclusive game so i shouldn't have a problem finding it.
i just want the roster update. Pinky on IR, Billy Mac in the starting lineup. I'll probably pick up Koren Drunkenson and dominate my franchise vs my neighbor (Steelers fan).
I dont understand why people would go at midnight to buy a video game. Maybe if you are out already, but the people buying it at midnight are probably all the morons that like to find out the glitches first so they can dominate online. Last night when I was playing Socom online, I heard some guy say he reserved it AND is getting it at midnight? Whats the point? There'll be enough copies at midnight you moron.
Why do you want McMullen in the starting lineup? I'd think as of this second every Eagle fan (except Billy's relatives) would like Lewis and Brown over McMullen.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 08, 2005, 04:49:20 PMLast night...I heard some guy say he reserved it AND is getting it at midnight? Whats the point? There'll be enough copies at midnight you moron.
Ha ha. I hope you said as much at the time.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 08, 2005, 04:49:20 PM
Why do you want McMullen in the starting lineup? I'd think as of this second every Eagle fan (except Billy's relatives) would like Lewis and Brown over McMullen.
Obviously, McMullen's the greatest #2 receiver in the history of football. Didn't you get the memo?
Quote from: MURP on August 08, 2005, 04:28:30 PM
so what FF... didnt ya play video game through college?
:-D Like I really had to study at PSU.
But seriously, I didn't play video games during finals week. It's kind of like finals week for me until 9/26.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 08, 2005, 05:01:42 PM
Didn't you get the memo?
No, my fax machine broke the other day. You know any good ones there are? I thought the XeroxPE120i was alright, you know if the GestetnerF9199NF is any good? Ive heard rave reviews about it.
The superstar thing looks cool. Maybe I will create a linebacker, get drafted by the ravens, smoke crack, smack hoes, and shoot people in nightclubs, then crash on the media for not being nice to me. Then smoke some more rock.....
depends on the state you live in, but touche nevertheless. have fun with the shipping.
Super cheapass shipping is free on Amazon for orders over $30 or $35.
In that case, I relent. Not more than $50. Can I go shoot myself now?
Please, go right ahead.
If only I had the balls. farging piece of shtein.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 08, 2005, 07:36:35 PM
Super cheapass shipping is free on Amazon for orders over $30 or $35.
It's $25, but Madden isn't actually sold by Amazon.com, it's sold by Office Depot THROUGH Amazon.com, so it does not qualify for free "Super Saver" shipping.
I'm not getting it this year. Madden 2001 for PS2 was awesome. Madden 2002 was awesome as well, then Madden 2003 comes out and it was real good, and then Madden 2004 comes out and it was good but it was starting to get repetitive and then Madden 2005 came out and I was just bored of it. The 2K series drastically improved in all aspects every year but Madden stays the same except for a few small additions to gameplay and other modes. It is just too repetitive now. I'm going to get Madden 2008 but decided to take 2 years off from it so I can build up that big craving again.
I can't wait for NHL 06 though. Hockey games are insanely fun.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 08, 2005, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 08, 2005, 07:36:35 PM
Super cheapass shipping is free on Amazon for orders over $30 or $35.
It's $25, but Madden isn't actually sold by Amazon.com, it's sold by Office Depot THROUGH Amazon.com, so it does not qualify for free "Super Saver" shipping.
Boo! ... oh wait, I'm not buying it this year anyway.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 08, 2005, 06:13:10 PM
The superstar thing looks cool. Maybe I will create a linebacker, get drafted by the ravens, smoke crack, smack hoes, and shoot people in nightclubs, then crash on the media for not being nice to me. Then smoke some more rock.....
I didn't hear about superstar thing...please inform. sounds like heisman race in ncaa 06. ???
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 08, 2005, 04:49:20 PM
I dont understand why people would go at midnight to buy a video game. Maybe if you are out already, but the people buying it at midnight are probably all the morons that like to find out the glitches first so they can dominate online. Last night when I was playing Socom online, I heard some guy say he reserved it AND is getting it at midnight? Whats the point? There'll be enough copies at midnight you moron.
I just happened to be up at midnight, so I thought what the hell. :paranoid What is your socom name, I'm going to kill you with a DE .50. :evil
:-D
can someone cut and paste a review from somewhere...goddamn work filters keep from all video game sites. bastiches
Quote from: chuck_chillout on August 09, 2005, 10:56:33 AM
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 08, 2005, 04:49:20 PM
I dont understand why people would go at midnight to buy a video game. Maybe if you are out already, but the people buying it at midnight are probably all the morons that like to find out the glitches first so they can dominate online. Last night when I was playing Socom online, I heard some guy say he reserved it AND is getting it at midnight? Whats the point? There'll be enough copies at midnight you moron.
I just happened to be up at midnight, so I thought what the hell. :paranoid What is your socom name, I'm going to kill you with a DE .50. :evil
Angry Goat.
im going to pick it up after my 12:30 meeting. i figure ill buy it, go back to work for the rest of the day or slip it in the playstation and say farg work for the rest of the day. you decide...
we have a company picnic today at noon...im going to gamestop now and not going to the picnic ;D
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 09, 2005, 12:02:52 PM
we have a company picnic today at noon...im going to gamestop now and not going to the picnic ;D
good choice...madden first...food later
just picked it up during lunch, the employees at the game champ were all playing Madden in the store. What a job. :-D
Im anxiously awaiting my pre-ordered copy which should arrive by mail soon :boom :boom :boom
heh, im flipping through the instruction booklet and it talks a bit about the superstar mode. Apparently you even choose who your parents are (with IQ) to determine what type of player you are. You get an apartment, haircuts, pick an agent, pick your clothes, get a rookie playbook, use a cell phone, have a website. :-D
Quote from: MURP on August 09, 2005, 01:10:37 PM
heh, im flipping through the instruction booklet and it talks a bit about the superstar mode. Apparently you even choose who your parents are (with IQ) to determine what type of player you are. You get an apartment, haircuts, pick an agent, pick your clothes, get a rookie playbook, use a cell phone, have a website. :-D
Now that's just too much damn work. Am I playing Madden or GTA?
So they've added Will Wright to the Madden team over at EA?
QuoteMadden NFL 06
EA's gridiron is still great, but fails to outdo itself for the first time in recent years.
by Craig Beridon
August 5, 2005 - Credit where credit's due, Tiburon annually manages to find ways to creatively invoke refreshing new substance into the Madden franchise every successive year -- when all it really needs to do is update rosters to sell, and sell big. It's a commendable stance that EA Sports has taken with regards to its meal ticket, as there has never been new stuff just for the sake of throwing in something fresh. These improvements have been significant ones too, albeit sometimes very small. Rarely, in its 16 years of life, has the series stuttered or stepped back due to a faulty new feature or detrimental gameplay implementation... and in the last few years Madden has been nothing less than immersive and fun.
A quick reminisce into historic sports videogame land immediately triggers the catch-and-tackle brilliance of Tecmo Bowl, the end zone-to-end zone camera of Joe Montana Football '94, and obviously, the older Maddens. Where the latter has succeeded, above all else, is its said ability to feel fresh and new, even though you've been playing the same title for almost two decades now. Since debuting on the PC in 1989, John Madden Football has gone from niche product to pop culture phenomenon, and has made the legendary "only travels by bus" former Raiders coach more famous than any one of his well-deserved colleagues. The one-headed Madden Gila Monster has claimed the most diehard, diverse, and possibly largest, fan base of any videogame franchise running, and it's no coincidence that some of the first footage we saw of anything next-gen was Madden during the Super Bowl.
That said, it was only a matter of time before the streak had to end. Madden NFL 06 could very well be remembered as the game that didn't improve enough over its counterpart -- and for the first time in years, became a little less fun to play.
QB Vision & Precision Passing
Now don't misunderstand, no game can sell 5 million copies without providing substantial appeal to the casual and diehard gamer alike, which is exactly what the franchise always has done and still does. Despite its increasingly less simplistic evolution each successive year, EA seems to cater more and more to the hardcore faithful, the group who participates in the Madden challenge (EA's annual tournament between the best players in the country) every year. To some extent that's a good idea, those gamers understand the mechanics and intricacies of Madden more than the average Joe, but it leaves the remainder of its audience having to adhere to a much more confined and less free-flowing experience.
i picked it up a couple hours ago. now i'm pissed because i can't play it for another 6 or 7 hours.
stupid work!
QuoteWhat I don't like to hear in regards to anything I consider being a good product or in this case, an outstanding game, is any of its aspects being "revolutionized." The passing engine of Madden football has been left untouched and stayed relatively the same for 10 years. Why? Because it's fine the way it is. Why take a sublime series like this one and try something so drastically different that it can make or break Bobby Consumer's opinion of the game as soon as he begins playing it? The QB Vision and Precision Passing (PP) concepts, the biggest change of 2006, are hit or miss in this way. Some players will love it, and some will loathe it. But what these two features do is require the offensive user to utilize a cone representing the quarterback's vision, or line of sight, when throwing to a receiver. After the snap, players must then pick out the receiver/back and surround them with the vision cone before releasing the ball or the pass is off-target... way off target. I'm talking 10 yards short and out of bounds.
It sounds like a good idea, I mean hell, it is realistic. After all, this year if you keep your vision in one receiver's pattern too long the defense will read the QB's eyes and commit more toward the guy he's focused on -- making them more likely to make a play on the ball (especially if you have a linebacker or anyone in a QB spy). Once again, good idea: Realism equals a good thing. The only problem with the new passing system, though, is that there are some obvious flaws. First, using the cone only makes passing more difficult, not more efficient. It would be fine if it added a little twist or modification to your passing philosophies, but instead, it's far too much of a hindrance.
The easiest way to execute PP is to select your primary receiver before the snap so that you're already looking toward him immediately after the ball is hiked. But then what happens? The defense is reading the QB's eyes and gets ready to break on the ball if you throw it in that direction. Another example: during passing plays, as soon as the ball is snapped, the quarterback will drop back in the pocket with his eyes immediately set on a receiver on all plays, except draws. Therefore, anytime the CPU runs a draw play to the running back, his cone will always be focused directly down the center of the field making a draw or delay immediately recognizable, and players can crash the middle of the line. This type of oversight would never have found its way into past Madden installments.
In addition, just as Madden's little brother, NCAA Football 2006, the control schemes have been changed. Assuming you don't choose your receiver pre-snap, the button string needed to execute the precision passing/QB vision is sequenced something like this (let's use the Xbox controller layout as an example):
Step one: (A button) Hikes the ball.
Step two: Hold the right trigger and press corresponding receiver button to lock on QB Vision.
Step three: Direct the pass behind/above/ahead of receiver (precision passing) and press same button to throw the ball.
Calculate if you will, the time that takes, and how simple it is to complete while Ed Reed is flying toward you on a safety blitz. Not Easy. Play on All-Pro or All-Madden difficulty, and you'll only have time to make one or two reads before your QB is lying facedown in the dirt with six sweaty linemen on top of him. It's a lot to ask of the casual Madden player to get used to, but I doubt QB vision was integrated with this faction of players in mind. Don't bet on QB vision to be in Madden 2007 for PS3, 360, or Revolution come next summer, either. The fact is, you can turn the QB Vision system off via the settings menu but this effectively erases one of the biggest new features of this year's Madden.
Playing Hard!
The offense has the truck stick now, leveling out the big hit potential for both sides of the ball. Identical to the hit stick, the truck stick is based on timing. It takes nimble thumb work to execute a Jerome Bettis straight-up-the-gut plowing-through-everyone-style run. As fun to use as the truck stick can be, it's not very functional in the open field so it's best to limit its use (which is tough) to short yardage plays or goal line situations. Moreover, trucking over someone slows down the ball carrier more so than the average broken tackle (making the decision to flick that analog stick an important one). Nevertheless, it's a nice little treat for the offense that got left out last year, even though the hit stick is still the more useful and beneficial of the two.
Apparently, EA's crew at the motion capture studio must have been given the year off, because no noticeable new tackle animations found their way into 2006. One sweet little number I did come across, though, was the receiver's new ability to duck under oncoming tackles from safeties or defensive backs when running routes across the middle. Yeah, how sweet is that. With the new Head-tracking, players will now watch the ball travel around the field, meaning no more blind catches by receivers.
For Madden 2005 we saw significant improvements made on the defensive side of the ball. Hot routes for DBs and linebackers made defensive play significantly more versatile and adaptive, and fortunately, helped prevent the opponent from continually working you over with those money plays that are somehow effective every time. No significant changes were made on D for 2006 so expect the same options available for this year's model.
Another big improvement in 2005 was the AI, especially on All-Madden difficulty. For this year, the only noticeable AI improvement is the smart route system, meaning that if you're in a third-and-12 situation, and you have a solid 10-yard pass play to the tight end in your arsenal, when you run it the TE will extend his route those extra 2 yards to pick up the first. These are the types of implementations that have made Madden such a technically excellent game, and always kept it on top of the virtual football heap.
Like NCAA Football before it, online play has been improved this year, allowing for the sharing of files between gamers plus more and comparative matchmaking. Also, players can now check their fantasy scores online, giving Madden 2006 the nice title of being the only videogame to offer Fantasy capabilities.
QuoteSuperstar and Franchise
Superstar Mode, despite a few AI quirks, is the brightest and most original addition to single-player mode since the franchise has begun. What superstar mode entails is experiencing the lifestyle of a NFL player off the field, and acquiring personas specific to the way the player lives his life. Whether fielding endorsements from septic tank companies or auditioning for the hot indy flick of the summer, there are plenty extracurricular activities in which the player can get his mischievous self involved. Be sure to select the right set of parents when you start it up, though. Your parents, as well as a few other events (like the infamous rookie IQ test), will be the determining factor on your player's stats at the outset of his career. Choose a father who was an All-American sprinter in college and you'll be blessed with stellar acceleration and speed.
Also pay good attention to the IQs of your folks, especially when in a position requiring use of your noggin', as it will have a direct affect on awareness attributes, which in the case of QBs where it subsequently determines the size of his passing cone. Don't bother shuffling through hours of parental matches hoping to find a hall of fame runningback father and supermodel/brain surgeon mother combination, though -- because extremely desirable traits like those show up few and far between and rarely, if ever, come paired together.
The AI quirks I mentioned earlier pop up around draft time when it's just as likely that a quarterback will be drafted by the NY Giants, or a running back by New Orleans, as it is for a team to draft appropriately for their specific needs. After the interviews, tests, hiring, and so forth you may be drafted as LeDainian Tomlinson's backup in San Diego, despite the choice to answer an interview response that you want to play for a team with winning history.
The most enjoyable feature within Superstar Mode is the performance institute: a training facility run by ze German, J.C. (Hans and Frans' long lost cousin) which players can use to increase stats, and generally improve their overall game. The catch is that only a few agents have access to it, and they just so happen to be the best in the business, so it will take a good many hours of gameplay, before you can build up the exposure and marketability to attract their eyes, even after, say, three consecutive player of the week performances. Smart move by EA: make you play for a long time before the coolest mini-game becomes available.
All in all, Superstar mode is good fun for those of you who enjoy Madden's single-player features. If you relished NCAA Football 06's Race for the Heisman, you'll love playing through Superstar, and some version of it will most certainly be around in the years ahead.
Franchise mode has become deeper and more immersive every year and even more so for 2006. Gameplan preparation is also accessible in Superstar, allowing you to practice specific plays relevant to the opposition faced that Sunday. By effectively executing those plays the performance boosts are then added to certain players if you run the same plays during that week's game -- adding to their efficiency on the field. For instancer, by running a hail mary as prep, you can improve receivers catching stats or the QB's throwing power helping to increase the probability of completing that desperation jump ball if you run it during the game. The new spawn feature enables users to save key games during the season, and play them at a later time (while still able to re-merge these results back into the franchise season). Also, Tony Bruno's radio show has added new callers and segments that give freshness to one of the Franchise mode's major additions of 2005. So if franchise is your predominate mode of play, like it is for many, this year it only gets better.
It?s likely Tiburon did a little experimentation on this, the last Madden released before the next gen systems drop, to test out some ideas. In the first year where Madden is all we get when it comes to licensed pro football, I was expecting more. But then again, maybe EA?s exclusivity with the NFL will hamper their annual improvements, being that their only opponent this year is what, Blitz? A franchise that became so enjoyable and successful like this one will incidentally force itself under a microscope to be revered or criticized when any radical change occurs.
Despite those faults, however, Madden NFL 06 is still a fantastic game, just not as much fun to play as it has been the last few years. This was bound to happen with how well it?s been consistently improving over time. For those gamers who only buy Madden as their one game a year, maybe this could be your favorite installment yet, but for everyone else, 2006 feels like a stutter step or experimental addition to the franchise that has failed to outdo itself for the first time in recent memory.
It got an 8.8 out of 10.
just picked mine up at toys r us. i walked into the game section and they had a display of the game to play. i picked it up and it was the eagles vs falcons. first play i sent glewis deep, touchdown! anyway its similar, but the passing vision thing was fargin with me. they had a deal, reserve the game and get a wireless remote control for 10$-so i bought it. basterds. can't wait to finish up work, crack a beer and play.
Most reviews rate it lower than the previous years. I think a lot of people are slowly but surely starting to agree with me that they just leave too much of the game unchanged each year. It never has a fresh feel. It feels like you are playing the same exact game, even with the editions. I mean actual gameplay wise.
I picked up my copy at lunch today have yet to play it but I am about to. As far as the reviews I have to say that I am not suprised, personally I didn't think last years version was that great. I do think that the new NCAA is a vast improvement over last years, if Madden did the same I will be happy.
So the first year of the monopoly isn't turning out to be a big win for the consumer, huh? Lame game, high price? I for one am shocked. Shocked.
Quote from: TO is GOD on August 09, 2005, 03:37:16 PM
Most reviews rate it lower than the previous years. I think a lot of people are slowly but surely starting to agree with me that they just leave too much of the game unchanged each year. It never has a fresh feel. It feels like you are playing the same exact game, even with the editions. I mean actual gameplay wise.
dude. it' s football. What do you expect, 5 downs? Fire pits?
Who gives a damn what some schmuck says on a gaming site.
I prefer to form my own opinion.
Quote from: NGM on August 09, 2005, 01:31:09 PM
For Madden 2005 we saw significant improvements made on the defensive side of the ball. Hot routes for DBs and linebackers made defensive play significantly more versatile and adaptive, and fortunately, helped prevent the opponent from continually working you over with those money plays that are somehow effective every time. No significant changes were made on D for 2006 so expect the same options available for this year's model.
I think the improved manlock feature is a huge change. You can't motion or go 3 or 4 wide to tell if the D's in man or zone anymore. There's also DB shading which can take away slants and corners. Cover 2 zones play much tougher and if you jam a bigger Wr with a small CB the CB will fatigue very fast. Same with small RB's like Westbrook, I found it very hard to keep him on the field. The cone is very challenging, but realistic. I could see major differences in this game from 05' version. Yeah, its still madden, but I like madden. If I want a whole new feel, I'll buy a different game...like nfl2k6 ;)
I decided not to get the game a long time ago. I don't care what a game review says, but I'm not shelling out another 50 bucks for a game that is the same as 2005 except for 2 little additions. I don't know if you've played the ESPN/2k series but every year they made the game a whole lot better, while keeping the things that made it successful in the process. If you really want I could go in depth about why I am tired of Madden and why I decided to skip it this year, but to summarize every year it feels exactly the same. Basically it's paying 50 bucks for updated rosters and schedules. The in-game play is exactly the frickin same. The same tackle animations, the same player sizes, player movements, catching animations, trash-talking, player movement animations. There is a lot more than that, and it's a shame the ESPN series is over for now because 2k5 was much better than Madden 05. Now that Madden owns the market it can get lazy because lack of competition. The next title will be on Xbox 360 and PS3 though, so this may be just a stepping stone before the big amazing new title, but I'm not holding my breath.
Fire pits would be pretty cool.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 09, 2005, 04:14:51 PM
Fire pits would be pretty cool.
there was a game called "Mutant League Football" for the Sega Genesis. It was pretty sweet. One of the teams had a defensive player named Reggie Fright.
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
The guys around your office threw you a shower? Where the hell do you work? The Blue Oyster?
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
That's disturbing...LOL
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
hbionic was there, wasn't he?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 09, 2005, 04:48:04 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
hbionic was there, wasn't he?
that would have been a surprise "golden shower"
I just took a break from playing all afternoon. My wife wants to kill me but i cant stop. I'm very pleased that they added the Truck hit or giving the RB the ability to lower his shoulder and truck over someone. Buck and Moats are pretty good at it. The precision passing is very sensitive and this year you cant adjust the sensitivity. Im very pleased so far except Cole didnt make the roster. Dio, Calvin Armstrong's computer generated picture looks like a heroin addicted Eminem :P Overall if your a madden fan youll be buying it anyway.
Quote from: SSgt PSN on August 09, 2005, 04:43:24 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
The guys around your office threw you a shower? Where the hell do you work? The Blue Oyster?
dont you wish
i work with a bunch of women basically.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 09, 2005, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2005, 04:21:27 PM
i wasnt gonna buy it...but i just got it at some surprise "groom shower" at work....so i ain't complaining.
That's disturbing...LOL
yes it was...lol...but it was some cake (i smell cake..lol), and i got some $, madden 06, and a dvd recorder. so like i said i ain't complaining. it's not like i was opening a boxes of china and crysal stemware.
i had one of those at work 2 months ago for my wedding. We got a bunch of "OC" related stuff, gift certificates to homedepot and bed bath and beyond, and i got an Eagles welcome mat. Its definitly an awkward feeling having a shower given to you. Good luck wingspan with the wedding and if your in a church for your wedding just make sure you dont close your eyes. I almost passed out and later found out that you should never close your eyes :sly
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 09, 2005, 07:03:23 PM
I just took a break from playing all afternoon. My wife wants to kill me but i cant stop. I'm very pleased that they added the Truck hit or giving the RB the ability to lower his shoulder and truck over someone. Buck and Moats are pretty good at it. The precision passing is very sensitive and this year you cant adjust the sensitivity. Im very pleased so far except Cole didnt make the roster. Dio, Calvin Armstrong's computer generated picture looks like a heroin addicted Eminem :P Overall if your a madden fan youll be buying it anyway.
Patterson looks like a fool.
Review.
Overall, pretty good. On the vision cone, dont even bother trying to do the lock onto recievers, just move it around. With the lock in you concentrate on more of switching then the people sacking you. Yeah, R2+ [] will lock onto square reciever. Also, if you hit square slightly after, your QB dives. :D
Superstar mode so far seems like its just something to start over and over again, not really play it. Fun seeming to get drafted and stuff, but if you dont even start youre just doing a franchise with a random team.
while i only played two games (on all-pro), i did beat the cowboys 52 - 7.
then, i played as the Bears and beat the Pats 3 - 0.
Quite fun, but i have a lot to learn. the cone vision thing is gonna take a while to get used to.
It's definitely better than ESPN NFL 2K6. :-D
I played a little last night. So far I enjoy the vision cone, makes it more interesting. The mini camp passing games def help with learning how to use it.
I thought it was funny when they had Rich Eisen explaining the Cone vision thing...and they showed a few QBs with these large areas of vision...then he explained that the higher the rating, the bigger the vision area was. As he said that, they showed Rex Grossman with like a centimeter of vision...lol!
Brett Favre had half the Field... ::)
Im not down with the vision cone, its a pain in the ass, just another thing you have to do before getting sacked. Its going to take awhile to get that down. I do like the precision passing though, that seems to work great, especially when you have a tall receiver on a short corner. Another thing I think downgraded is the playmaker button, now you have to hit R3 and then tap R analog the direction you want. Again another damn button function to get you sacked again and again.
I did the superstar mode to start and ended up getting drafted to the farg 49ers...gay.
I like the addition of the truck stick on offense, but its useless in the open field. if your not straight at a defender your RB will just dive on the ground, wich is a big flaw. in the open field i like useing triangle button to plow over people, especially when the fullback or tightend are running. otherwise i use stiff arm, juke or spin. NCAA 06 has superior juke moves with the right analog stick.
I noticed some sick tackles this year and also on offense the guy your controlling will duck under flyingtackles and even hurdle and spin when hit. i like that alot. oh and also when close to the goal-line players now actually dive like they are going into the endzone, i noticed 2 styles of leaps for the endzone, pretty bad-ass and much needed.
anoher improvement is music. there seems to be no gay emo shtein this year. they pretty much stuck to metal and hip-hop.
Im with mussa on the vision cone. Too much of a pain in the arse. Too much stuff to go through, vision cone, throw strength, leading the receiver, QB's feet planted - all that too consider/push for a good throw. I just get sacked >:(
suck it up nancys. If you want an easy game you can go into settings and turn the vision cone off, or you can go play Tecmo Bowl. :yay
Always a good suggestion, MURP. Pass control is very simple. :D
(http://www.jetszone.com/cas/games/tsb2.GIF)
Unless you're playing as Steve Grogan, then you have no control whatsoever over where the ball goes.
Quote from: MURP on August 10, 2005, 11:39:29 AM
suck it up nancys. If you want an easy game you can go into settings and turn the vision cone off, or you can go play Tecmo Bowl. :yay
yeah, what he said.
You can also find a copy of John Elway's Quarterback (NES) relatively cheap on ebay.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 10, 2005, 12:30:32 PM
You can also find a copy of John Elway's Quarterback (NES) relatively cheap on ebay.
Eh, no NFL or NFLPA license on that crap. Might as well wait for Blitz.
anyone ever play the one really old football game where you picked a play and then a screen showed X's and O's that ran it? it was out in 84/85ish. i used to love that game. i played as CHI all the time, the HB sweep was a killer, #34CHI....we'd play it to see who'd break 1000 yards in one game. i did it twice.
Mike Ditka Power Football, the only football game you need. It had a cutscene for field goals and calypso music.
my record in tecmo bowl is somewhere around 500-1. i only lost once. i will crush you in tecmo.
Quote from: MURP on August 10, 2005, 11:39:29 AM
suck it up nancys. If you want an easy game you can go into settings and turn the vision cone off,
Its pretty easy for me.
im starting to get the hang of it now. the truck stick on offense is awesome! theres nothing better than running over two defenders on your way to the endzone. i happened to be playing against the eagles in the superstar mode and I ran over Trotter with my receiver and hes gone for the year with a "severe concussion" :-D :paranoid
anyway i got the roster memory card for ncaa 06 and i plan on starting the heisman race in ncaa 06 as well as franchise for madden 06. i can upload the rosters to madden then with real college players instead of fake ones. sweetness :yay
one thing i've found to be an issue is punt returns. seems 99% of the time I go to return a punt there is a guy ready to crush me as soon as I catch it which results in a lot of fumbles. So fair catching seems to be a must far to often. :boo
Quote from: MURP on August 11, 2005, 09:44:47 AM
one thing i've found to be an issue is punt returns. seems 99% of the time I go to return a punt there is a guy ready to crush me as soon as I catch it which results in a lot of fumbles. So fair catching seems to be a must far to often. :boo
just go adjust the "CPU Punt Length" slider. that happened to me last year, fixing the slider worked wonders and made it more realistic.
Quote from: MURP on August 11, 2005, 09:44:47 AM
one thing i've found to be an issue is punt returns. seems 99% of the time I go to return a punt there is a guy ready to crush me as soon as I catch it which results in a lot of fumbles. So fair catching seems to be a must far to often. :boo
I fargin hate that too! :boom
Anyway I played last night and am starting to really like the pass cone. I especially like it on defense, you know where the ball is gonna go then. I try to switch lineman and swat the ball and or switch to the DB thats in the area.
Ill give that a try, Wingspan. What exactly does it do?
it gives your opposition punter more strength, and they'll punt it an extra 5-10 yards, giving you a little more room for a realistic return.
like i mentioned. i found the same thing in 2005...and the punter slider fixed it.
thanks. :yay
last night i tried the superstar thing... turned myself into a QB and got drafted by the Rams in the top of the 3rd round. Terrell Davis is the mentor and I got an agent who wants to use me for publicity. Interviewed with Rich Eisen on NFL total access, tried to get me to say that I was gonna take over and make Marc Bulger be the backup. ha!
I guess it jsut takes a little getting used to.
Also, they have a preset controller configuration that is the same as madden 2005 if you're lazy like me and don't want to learn a new controller configuration.
Quote from: thrillhouse on August 11, 2005, 10:21:27 AM
I guess it jsut takes a little getting used to.
Also, they have a preset controller configuration that is the same as madden 2005 if you're lazy like me and don't want to learn a new controller configuration.
you'll get it down eventually, ive noticed ive improved already. one way to improve is to practice throwing ALOT. In superstar mode u go through training camp, two practices a day. I would pick pass plays because i created a wide receiver, to amp up his skills. im starting to get it down now.
Just tried it last night for the first time. The raiders have a sweet running game. Fargas in a maniac on the field with 94 speed and surprising toughness. Lamont Jordan rolls over people. Next to the Eagles, that's my favorite team on the game. Detroit has a nice running game with Kevin Jones. They feel pretty good. The Jets feel good as well...with a good D.
Quote from: hbionic on August 12, 2005, 03:46:38 PM
Just tried it last night for the first time. The raiders have a sweet running game. Fargas in a maniac on the field with 94 speed and surprising toughness. Lamont Jordan rolls over people. Next to the Eagles, that's my favorite team on the game. Detroit has a nice running game with Kevin Jones. They feel pretty good. The Jets feel good as well...with a good D.
I've never played a single snap as a team other than the Eagles in any computer video game, ever. Pathetic, I know. But true.
Must Trade TO
Quote from: hbionic on August 12, 2005, 03:46:38 PM
Just tried it last night for the first time. The raiders have a sweet running game. Fargas in a maniac on the field with 94 speed and surprising toughness. Lamont Jordan rolls over people. Next to the Eagles, that's my favorite team on the game. Detroit has a nice running game with Kevin Jones. They feel pretty good. The Jets feel good as well...with a good D.
Stop man, just stop.
Lee, I meant to say they 'felt'. Thanks.
thats disgusting chuggs
i played it last night. pretty sweet. the gints suck. i beat them 33-7. i would of shut them out but they returned a int for a td. freak play. i must of hit wrong button or somethin. >:(. i love the new precision(sp?) passing. had a 3 and 32 and made a first down. woohoo.
WHERE ARE THE FRIGGIN CHEARLEADERS!!!!!
Short review:
Vision cone sucks
Superstar mode is fun
Little improvents (o-line shifts, truck stick) are great
It looks like offense will be a bit easier this year
Quote from: MDS on August 13, 2005, 06:18:52 PM
Short review:
Vision cone sucks
Superstar mode is fun
Little improvents (o-line shifts, truck stick) are great
It looks like offense will be a bit easier this year
Why does the vision cone suck? I think it's alright, nothing major to make the game better or worse
I was at EB Games in my McNabb jersey and was able to resist pulling the trigger on it.
I think it was the lack of Todd "wost manneans" Herremans being in the game.
I'll find it used in late September.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2005, 09:43:39 PMI'll find it used in late September.
And it will cost $39.95. :boom
This is the first year since the PS2 came out that I didn't have it on the first day it came out. But at this point, I'll wait for a cheapie version if possible. Got it for free from a buddy last year...have to see if EA sent him more this year. That would be great. Otherwise, I'll hold off until the price comes down. Doesn't look like they made any serious strides this year, and I just don't have nearly the time to play like I used to. Seems like the more I play, the more I want to play...and that's a rough cycle when you have limited time.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2005, 09:43:39 PM
I was at EB Games in my McNabb jersey and was able to resist pulling the trigger on it.
I think it was the lack of Todd "wost manneans" Herremans being in the game.
I'll find it used in late September.
herremans is in the game as well as Armstrong. Cole isnt/Bergeron and Marshall arent either
Playing the ravens in pre-season, TO caught a TD and did the ray lewis dance. :-D
Quote from: mussa on August 15, 2005, 11:35:36 AM
Playing the ravens in pre-season, TO caught a TD and did the ray lewis dance. :-D
oh shtein, are you serious? That is farging HILARIOUS :-D
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 15, 2005, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: mussa on August 15, 2005, 11:35:36 AM
Playing the ravens in pre-season, TO caught a TD and did the ray lewis dance. :-D
oh shtein, are you serious? That is farging HILARIOUS :-D
serious. at first the camera angle was profile of TO, so i was like what the farg kind of celebration was that? then at the end when he throws his arms up and back and screams was a dead giveaway. :-D
you guys/gal are good with eagles history...how about checking out the "all-eagles" roster on madden & coming up with the actual players' names & numbers?
madden doesn't use real names or numbers for those guys so position, height/weight, & ratings are all there is to go by....well, skin color too since they use generic white guy & black guy pics for the all-time teams.
i'll start....
the 6'7 wr is harold carmichael & the DE with a 99 rating is reggie white. ;D
probably find it on a madden message board.
there are madden message boards???
cool....there are people geekier than me. :yay
thanks.
i had to bump it up to All-Madden. I beat the Niners 68 - 0. Through my first 2 games, i had 18 sacks.
is it me, or is the pic of Matt McCoy someone else?
Yeah, that pic is not Matt McCoy. Don't know who it is. I don't know why they used real pics of some rookies and fake ones of others...Calvin Armstrong for instance is a computer illustration.
I bought it on Sunday.
I love the vision cone.
It is hard as farg to run the ball. I had like 22 carries with Westbrook for 20 yards. Everytime I run with him he is swallowed up as soon as he gets the hand off.
Madden just seems to be anti-running. It was easy as making a baby cry in ESPN 2k5 to run the ball. Runners slid around the blockers and could juke decently. In Madden they run into the blocker, the blocker dies, and the runner is tackled for a loss. Don't even think about juking unless you plan it three yards in advance.
I think running is easier this year than years past. You just gotta mix it up and if the D is obviously blitzing to where your running use an audible.
Quote from: MURP on August 30, 2005, 09:56:23 AM
I think running is easier this year than years past. You just gotta mix it up and if the D is obviously blitzing to where your running use an audible.
i was gonna say, the running this year is amazing. Guards ACTUALLY pull now! You just need to do the mini-camp rushing drills to get used to it. Passing's tough. You can't drop back and roll to one side or the other. You need to plant your feet and move up in the pocket or wherever need be or you'll be dropped for a loss.
oh yeah, when you get the run down the play action passes friggin rule!
Quote from: Mad-Lad on August 30, 2005, 10:01:10 AM
oh yeah, when you get the run down the play action passes friggin rule!
i havent played that much...but i agree with that. the draw plays and play action passes actually work! that may be the best improvement overall.
i started the superstar mode, and really did not get into it. so i'll just stick with a franchise i guess. and i like the vision cone ok enough. but i love that you can throw to one side or the other of a reciever.
playaction is a mixed bag IMO. When Mussa and I were playing, just about any big blitz on a playaction would result in a sack. Its a risky move at times.
m. hassleback QB rating 14.1...1 td....5 int
basterd!
Quote from: MURP on August 30, 2005, 10:35:31 AM
playaction is a mixed bag IMO. When Mussa and I were playing, just about any big blitz on a playaction would result in a sack. Its a risky move at times.
well yeah, why would you run a playaction on a blitz anyway? :P
you'd need the RB to block to free man, no fake a handoff.
Quote from: MURP on August 30, 2005, 10:35:31 AM
playaction is a mixed bag IMO. When Mussa and I were playing, just about any big blitz on a playaction would result in a sack. Its a risky move at times.
you can't use it all the time, but it still rules when it works.
the blitzing is really effective. I have yet to mess with shifting blocking schemes, but i'm guessing that would help.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 30, 2005, 10:51:37 AM
well yeah, why would you run a playaction on a blitz anyway? :P
if you see it coming yeah. I think it is easier to see the computers intentions than against another person. The person can alter so much at the LOS and also bring there own player on a blitz its more of a gamble calling an audible than against the computer. atleast for me.
sounds like you just need to suck at it less :deion
Quote from: Wingspan on August 30, 2005, 11:36:25 AM
sounds like you just need to suck at it less :deion
Quote from: mussa on August 30, 2005, 10:39:38 AM
m. hassleback QB rating 14.1...1 td....5 int
basterd!
ask Mussa about that. :deion
Quote from: MURP on August 30, 2005, 11:55:45 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 30, 2005, 11:36:25 AM
sounds like you just need to suck at it less :deion
ask Mussa about that. :deion
:paranoid I'm not askin' Mussa about it.
:-D evil Lad, just evil.
oh... right.
Madden thread.
got it.
I've been pulling The Freak off the line to use him as a stand up pass rusher and the AI is certainly keeping up with it. They shift a tight end to his side every time. I like the smarter AI now. The rushing game is awesome. I love the little dump HB screen. You get three linemen pulling and plowing the way for you. That is a great improvement.
farg u Murp and farg u Lad :flipoff :-D
back on topic, week 4 at chiefs...ive prob attempted 4-5 times. i always quit in frustration. i can't beat them! its either int after int or fumbles. its rigged! last night i was up 14 zip at the half on all-pro setting(which is a low score for me). they controlled the clock the entire 3rd quarter, running and tying the game. i couldn't stop them. 4th qt rolls around and McNabb decides to fumble everytime hes sacked. No lie, he fumbled 5 possesions in a row! All from sacks since its impossible to run with a QB anymore. with the score 27 to 14 with a minute left he fumbled again...i just about broke the controller. i quit. its only on all-pro and i can't beat them for the life of me.
Quote from: mussa on August 30, 2005, 12:38:46 PM
farg u Murp and farg u Lad :flipoff :-D
back on topic, week 4 at chiefs...ive prob attempted 4-5 times. i always quit in frustration. i can't beat them! its either int after int or fumbles. its rigged! last night i was up 14 zip at the half on all-pro setting(which is a low score for me). they controlled the clock the entire 3rd quarter, running and tying the game. i couldn't stop them. 4th qt rolls around and McNabb decides to fumble everytime hes sacked. No lie, he fumbled 5 possesions in a row! All from sacks since its impossible to run with a QB anymore. with the score 27 to 14 with a minute left he fumbled again...i just about broke the controller. i quit. its only on all-pro and i can't beat them for the life of me.
did the chiefs sign Koren Robinson too? I also can't figure out how their defense went from dog crap to FANTASTIC. I play on All Madden now cause my first two games included 18 sacks/1 shutout/68 score (vs. Niners), but I lost to KC something like 35 - 28.
and why the hell is Teddy Bruschi a FA in that game? Also, why is Reed not on IR?
SONSABITCHES!
Yes Koren Robinson being on the chiefs is news to me too. Their D-LINE is always on McNabb. I can see why Reed isn't on IR, hes not the best known player...so i can see how they overlooked it. Even though these developers and designers get paid mad chedda to make the game you think they could keep track of everything in the offseason til a certain point and then they have to set it in stone. Oh and why does Ryan Moats have a speed of like 89? Dude hes like a 99 from what ive seen from him past two pres-season games.
i bumped moats up to a 97. If your having too many interceptions i had to knock the ai down one notch on all madden because it looked like 11 Eric Allens out there every time.
I started another Franchise last night and picked the Jets.
I can run real well with Curtis Martin. Just not with Westbrook. I don't know why. I guess I'll have to build up Westy in the training camp to get him more break tackle.
And yes, the Chiefs did sign Koren Robinson in my franchise mode too.
Maybe they know Dick Vermiel likes the loser players? He did draft Lawrence Phillips after all...
I find it a little odd that the Chiefs signing Koren is built into the franchise mode. I wonder what else they have plugged in there permanently.
In 2005, when you did fantasy drafts the 49ers always picked McNair and Brooks and would put on the trading block.
say wwwwhat!
In franchise training camp it's very easy to get 3 points to add to Westbrooks break tackle # in the running drill. thats a start to helping his run game out anyway.
I usually wait till after the final roster moves are set before starting my franchise but i'm debating considering i was able to trade Corey Simon to the Cards for their first and 2nd rounder. If i update the final roster i will have lost Buckhalter, Reed, Simon, and gained the skins receiver. i don't know if it's worth it or not.
yea no shtein murp.
i tried chiefs again last night...the first drive..they get down to the 10 yrd line with ridiculous completions and runs, only to throw an interception to keith adams. but i go 3 and out. next drive they score on a catch and broken tackle, BS. Then they intercept a McNabb bomb to greg lewis. Go the whole way doWn the field kick a field goal. Next drive I get McNabb fumbles! They get the ball back only to throw an interception to M. Lewis who returns it for 80 yrd TD. Next drive for chiefs they drive the whole way down the field again only to fumble and I recover. So I get a first down finally, throw another bomb to G. Lewis cause hes lined up next to a CB with 87 speed, G. Lewis has 94 speed. Another bomb...he s got the guy beat, but somehow the guy catches up, tips the ball like 5 times and intercepts the fargin ball AGAIN!! This is the best part, on the interception return, I control Westy and I hit stick the CB, he fumbles the ball goes prob 20 yrds past every offense player of mine who sOmehow manage to miss the fumble, right into the hands of their d-lineman. I gave up once again. Before I quit i looked at McNabbs stats...16.1 QB rating...3 interceptions..... :boom
I traded CBUCK to the Skins for Mccants/5th/6th. I got Simon on the trade block and have some interesting offers. Steven Jackson, Gonzo, Wayne etc. Not sure what route im going with him yet.
Maybe you just suck.
OUCH Mussa. I just accepted the fact that the WR duo of Kennison and Koren Robinson was unstoppable, took the beating, and moved on. trust me. it's easier that way.
Has anyone done the online franchise "Locker Room" thing?
i know....i need to get over my madden ego and move on...with an ass beating. MDS i'll fight you. :poison
just move the sliders if your getting picked off so much.
Quote from: MURP on September 01, 2005, 12:46:36 PM
just move the sliders if your getting picked off so much.
or practice, ya Sally Palantonio!
Quote from: mussa on September 01, 2005, 12:45:19 PM
i know....i need to get over my madden ego and move on...with an ass beating. MDS i'll fight you. :poison
I cant find a good playbook in 06. I rolled with Hasslets in 05, but they took away the dominating plays in singleback 4 wide this year. Once I play non stop during winter break and find a decent book, I will play you and destroy you. If you have online that is....
the eagles playbook sucks
Quote from: MURP on September 01, 2005, 12:55:17 PM
the eagles playbook sucks
not when Nabbage throws 5 TDs, it doesn't.
The Eagles playbook always sucks. Madden makes their offensive plans boring as hell. Boo.
Quote from: MDS on September 01, 2005, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 01, 2005, 12:45:19 PM
i know....i need to get over my madden ego and move on...with an ass beating. MDS i'll fight you. :poison
I cant find a good playbook in 06. I rolled with Hasslets in 05, but they took away the dominating plays in singleback 4 wide this year. Once I play non stop during winter break and find a decent book, I will play you and destroy you. If you have online that is....
OH....I see, you destroy me? OK....I'll buy the adapter and everything else, tonight. Or do you need to practice...u damn pansy.
Everyone, I dominate all. And I only use Eagles playbook cause im used to it. Im not comfortable using shotgun..
Quote from: Dillen37 on September 01, 2005, 01:23:32 PM
Everyone, I dominate all. And I only use Eagles playbook cause im used to it. Im not comfortable using shotgun..
thats gotta be the dorkiest thing ive ever heard.
in my franchise, koren robinson was signed by the chargers.
KC is near impossibly to beat, i lost 19-21, not 1 offensive TD by me ^-^
i've been trying to beat the Broncos for what seems like forever. They're insanely good, and i'll tell you why.
Ritchie catches a pass along the right sideline with Champ Bailey as the only guy in his way. I use the "truck stick" option and BOOM, fumbles the ball and Denver recovers. ok, fine.
later, Ron Dayne runs between the guard and tackle with Dawkins as the only guy in his way, while going to tackle him Ron throws a "truck stick" knocking Dawkins over. He runs for another 30 yards only to be caught by the entire defense cause he's slow as shtein.
Oh, the Broncos D-Line is amazing too.
I trashed the Colts and Saints yesterday by 28 and 35 points. I sacked Brooks 6 times with Kearse and INT'd him 5 times....3 for TDs.
"Oh, how awful! They portray the Superdome as a pristine palace in that violent game, that's not real life at all! BAN MADDEN!"
So I started my franchise over with the current eagles lineup. I played Atlanta and beat them 63 to 17. I played San Fran and lost 17 to 24. I got sacked 11 times and McNabb had a QB rating of 5.1. WTF.
I created Jason Short, Trent Cole, Spach and Josh Murp Parry. I went into attributes and gave CBuck an injury rating of 1. So he basically got injured on almost everie run. Finally in the 4th pre-season game he got injured for a few weeks. I put him on the IR. Signed Lamar Gordon. Signed Jaqua Thomas, who is a beast in Madden somehow. Im benching pinky for the year. I released JR Reed and Billy McMullen(by accident, i thought i didn't have any rosters spots left so i droped billy). Steve Scullio is a beast and beat out Andrews in pre-season battle, but im starting Andrews since Scullio isn't even on the team. I don't really care about back-up o-lineman. The cancer of madden is taking over my life again.
dont forget to create Thornburgh. special teams demon.
a few complaints about madden 06
it still pisses me off that when you go to modify uniforms you only get crappy yahoo fantasy football helmets and shirts, no logo's on them.
it took me 2 days to find the editor of custom packages. which is better than the substitution editing, as you can give breathers to players easily, and work with a RB rotation.
fan attendance is still way way off. you lose one home game, the next game you are down to 75% attendance.
playing defense vs the computer in all-pro, is way too easy. but offense is just as hard at times, and incredibly easy. after playing the sliders enough i may finally have it where it's most realistic.
overall i like this game, and some of the gameplay enhancements (QB's actually slide now, and you can throw while sprinting instead of pulling back the pass icons, and the precision passing). but i am glad this was a gift, and not a purchase on my part
Quote from: mussa on September 20, 2005, 01:13:31 PM
I created Jason Short, Trent Cole, Spach and Josh Murp Parry. I went into attributes and gave CBuck an injury rating of 1. So he basically got injured on almost everie run. Finally in the 4th pre-season game he got injured for a few weeks. I put him on the IR. Signed Lamar Gordon. Signed Jaqua Thomas, who is a beast in Madden somehow. Im benching pinky for the year. I released JR Reed and Billy McMullen(by accident, i thought i didn't have any rosters spots left so i droped billy). Steve Scullio is a beast and beat out Andrews in pre-season battle, but im starting Andrews since Scullio isn't even on the team. I don't really care about back-up o-lineman. The cancer of madden is taking over my life again.
The rosters online came out, Short is a 69, Cole 71, Spach 71, Parry 72 overalls just if you want them on par or something. All the backup OL upgrade during the preseason, but they still farging suck..all are 75 overall or lower. In the game Thomas and Runyan's contracts are ending after the 1st year so im going to need to draft alot of lineman....D'Brickashaw.
Quote from: MURP on September 20, 2005, 01:25:54 PM
dont forget to create Thornburgh. special teams demon.
not enough roster room. they should be able to have just as much as in real life. considine's got like 3 sacks already. screw thornburgh.
just cut CBUCK. duh.
i still have hope for CBUCK. he's gonna have knees of steele next yeare
he cant, already put him on IR.
cut Scullio. now!
trade him. hes worth something..in the game anyway.
speaking of trades, the Bears had a backup lineman 83 overall on the trading block. they took MAHE AND A 4TH.
u traded underwear underwear? how could u... :evil
I moved Simoneau to field goal/extra point kicker and Bartrum is now limited to kickoffs.
I'm playing the Superstar bit at the moment. Using a RB who now plays for the Eagles.....finally. I use him Westy style, but he can run it between the tackles. My problem is getting his points maxed. He's had three 1500+ rushing seasons, with 16+ TDs each. He's stuck at a 93 overall. Anyone got any tips?
maybe do the training camp competition at the start of the season and use him in the areas were he is below par.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 21, 2005, 09:53:31 AM
I'm playing the Superstar bit at the moment. Using a RB who now plays for the Eagles.....finally. I use him Westy style, but he can run it between the tackles. My problem is getting his points maxed. He's had three 1500+ rushing seasons, with 16+ TDs each. He's stuck at a 93 overall. Anyone got any tips?
ok so the games been out a month. u played three seasons already? holy shtein dude.
Tried that. Not only is it boring as shtein, but now that he is on the Eagles, he has to do it against Trot, Kearse, Dawk, Lewis, etc. It was easier when he was drafted by the Niners. Looked like LT during practice. :-D Meh, I'll figure it out.
Quote from: mussa on September 21, 2005, 11:21:50 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 21, 2005, 09:53:31 AM
I'm playing the Superstar bit at the moment. Using a RB who now plays for the Eagles.....finally. I use him Westy style, but he can run it between the tackles. My problem is getting his points maxed. He's had three 1500+ rushing seasons, with 16+ TDs each. He's stuck at a 93 overall. Anyone got any tips?
ok so the games been out a month. u played three seasons already? holy shtein dude.
The first two seasons I changed to 3 minute quarters, just ran his ass off to get the stats I wanted him to have. Superstar is much different the Franchise mode, just as fun, but different.
yea i tried it out when i bought it. kept getting drafted by gay teams, lost interest.
Just have a great season and demand a trade. I think the contracts are a year long, then head for the hills.
The 'ol TO plan.
So, I had a huge professional exam on Monday. Because of the amount of study needed to prepare, I didn't get Madden until Monday night. I have to say that I think the graphics are slightly better, and I like the realism of the new passing method... but it's HARD. Plus, it took be a while to get the rosters close to accurate.
Anyway, it definitely makes a difference if you make the possible roster adjustments before entering franchise or superstar mode. I tried two different guys in superstar mode briefly so far. I lose interest quick. I just prefer the franchise mode.
Anyway, it's disappointing only because of the lack of improvement overall from 2005. Still, it is the best football game ever put out... just not much better than the 2nd best.
Another farged up thing I noticed, if you are playing Franchise and NOT controlling Kearse on D, he sucks. He gets pancaked or pushed back into the secondary on almost every play, but he is so-so against the run. If you sub in Jamal Green, he's a beast. He's got like six sacks in seven games. Every time he gets one, Madden makes a comment about his speed.....what the farg?
Another thing, C-Buck bitches his ass off for not starting, constantly. He is awesome between the tackles, but is horrible on the edge and in the passing game where Westy excels.
Has anyone finished a season in Franchise yet? Need some advice.....
I noticed that about Buck also. And Hugh Douglas bitches if you don't start him too. So, i cut Hugh. I keep Buck because i usually run for about 200 yards and catch 100 yards with Westbrook in the first half. The i sub in Buck to keep his mouth shut.
I always control Kearse and he flies across the line. I pull him back into LB mode a bit too. He's so fast.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 28, 2005, 12:09:07 PM
Another farged up thing I noticed, if you are playing Franchise and NOT controlling Kearse on D, he sucks. He gets pancaked or pushed back into the secondary on almost every play, but he is so-so against the run. If you sub in Jamal Green, he's a beast. He's got like six sacks in seven games. Every time he gets one, Madden makes a comment about his speed.....what the farg?
Another thing, C-Buck bitches his ass off for not starting, constantly. He is awesome between the tackles, but is horrible on the edge and in the passing game where Westy excels.
Has anyone finished a season in Franchise yet? Need some advice.....
I finished a season. I didn't have the Kearse problems you did and i never controlled him. Sheldon Brown broke a record with 17 ints (7 or 8 were user pics), my entire OL went to the pro bowl, and i lost Westbrook in the NFC title game to a severe concussion. I then lost Mike Lewis for the Superbowl and had to use Mikell.
Eagles Superbowl. Buckhalter didn't bitch, but my fanbase sucked. that didn't make much sense.
get rid of Buck and get Gordon.
havn't finished a season...im at the dallas game. i did finish a season of NCAA 06 and im curious as to how you export the draft class? I got the roster names and evrything. Do you need a new memory card to do this?
Tell ya what bout Cbuck. I got the roster to match the eagles as close as possible. I had a stray Oineman who wasn't on the team, but everyone is pretty much there. I went into attributes and changed CBucks injury rating to 1, so when he gets injured in preseason, u can put him on the IR. But by doing this u realize it can't be changed back for the rest of the franchise and his career is basically over, which it is anyway. Then I signed Lamar Gordon as my number two. I bumped up Moats speed to 96 to be more realistic than an 89 he's given by EA. Lamar is good and will break tackles and has decent speed.
I cut the players from the roster that I felt would likely never play for the team again, including Buck (replaced with Gordon), Ritchie (created Parry and replaced), Jamaal Jackson (moved Darilek to C), Steve Sciullo (created Clarke and replaced), Simon, Douglas (replaced with Juqua Thomas), and JR Reed. I also added Jason Short as the primary backup Dhani's spot and made another few "realistic" moves (including reducing/increasing key player attributes).
Players like Pinkston and McDougle, I'm just burying on the depth chart for 2005.
I also went through all the formations/subs and tried to better reflect the Eagles' tendency to rotate, especially on the defensive line. Patterson plays in passing formations... etc.
ive yet to mess around with substitutions...
Quote from: mussa on September 28, 2005, 12:33:05 PM
havn't finished a season...im at the dallas game. i did finish a season of NCAA 06 and im curious as to how you export the draft class? I got the roster names and evrything. Do you need a new memory card to do this?
At the end of your first season, when you go to the offseason it should say import draft classes. You dont need a new memory card, just save it on. (Its like 54 KB) Name anyone and ill see if they came out. It'll likely be a bit different though. I saved after week 15 then simmed to see who comes in the draft
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 28, 2005, 12:33:40 PM
I cut the players from the roster that I felt would likely never play for the team again, including Buck (replaced with Gordon), Ritchie (created Parry and replaced), Jamaal Jackson (moved Darilek to C), Steve Sciullo (created Clarke and replaced), Simon, Douglas (replaced with Juqua Thomas), and JR Reed. I also added Jason Short as the primary backup Dhani's spot and made another few "realistic" moves (including reducing/increasing key player attributes).
Players like Pinkston and McDougle, I'm just burying on the depth chart for 2005.
I also went through all the formations/subs and tried to better reflect the Eagles' tendency to rotate, especially on the defensive line. Patterson plays in passing formations... etc.
I promoted Patterson to a started at week six. He's weak at getting pressue on the QB, but has been an absolute beast against the run. What did you all do about scouting players for the draft? Can you just have the CPU do that shtein? What a pain in the ass that shtein is....
Quote from: mussa on September 28, 2005, 12:33:05 PM
havn't finished a season...im at the dallas game. i did finish a season of NCAA 06 and im curious as to how you export the draft class? I got the roster names and evrything. Do you need a new memory card to do this?
When you finish you dynasty season on NCAA at the end of the season it will ask you to Export your class when you in the offseason beginning step 1. You'll see who transferd, left early, and graduated. Then on Madden just import the draft class when you begin you offseason it gives you the option
I haven't bought it yet, and thought about sitting this year out. But somehow my Madden 05 disc got a scratch and isn't playable anymore.
I saw that Madden 06 is on sale at Circuit City this week for $39.00...so I might pick it up. Just throwing that out there in case anyone was on the fence about it.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 28, 2005, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 28, 2005, 12:33:05 PM
havn't finished a season...im at the dallas game. i did finish a season of NCAA 06 and im curious as to how you export the draft class? I got the roster names and evrything. Do you need a new memory card to do this?
When you finish you dynasty season on NCAA at the end of the season it will ask you to Export your class when you in the offseason beginning step 1. You'll see who transferd, left early, and graduated. Then on Madden just import the draft class when you begin you offseason it gives you the option
so in the heisman race can u do that?> or just dynasty?
i'm starting my franchise online (via the EA Locker). has anyone tried it? i heard there have been problems with file corruption. If anyone's been through a season, is the offseason easy to deal with when 2 people are playin?
Quote from: mussa on September 29, 2005, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 28, 2005, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: mussa on September 28, 2005, 12:33:05 PM
havn't finished a season...im at the dallas game. i did finish a season of NCAA 06 and im curious as to how you export the draft class? I got the roster names and evrything. Do you need a new memory card to do this?
When you finish you dynasty season on NCAA at the end of the season it will ask you to Export your class when you in the offseason beginning step 1. You'll see who transferd, left early, and graduated. Then on Madden just import the draft class when you begin you offseason it gives you the option
so in the heisman race can u do that?> or just dynasty?
both
cool, thanks dude
it didn't give me the option to export draft class at the end of the first year of NCAA 06. maybe its only dynasty. ???
Just do what i do and make a dynasty in NCAA and do it with some 1 AA team so you dont mess up the teams recruiting and spend about an hour setting up the season and Simulating all games. When you advance in dynasty to the offseason you set your budget and then you view the "Players Leaving" and hit start when you look at the players leaving and then export draft class. Mussa depending on how often you play madden you can make as many draftclasses after each season, I typically make 7 draft classes just to be sure.
i shoulda done 3, but i only did 2..i generally start over anyway.
Picked it up. It's okay...but pretty much a rehash of last year. More than anything, they took some of the good that was in last year's ESPN game.
just finished year 1 and won the superbowl against the colts, i farging hate peyton. one on play he changed the play 3 times. in madden that takes a long time. started season 2 and draft kiwanuka, greenway, and jon scott.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 30, 2005, 05:50:58 PM
Just do what i do and make a dynasty in NCAA and do it with some 1 AA team so you dont mess up the teams recruiting and spend about an hour setting up the season and Simulating all games. When you advance in dynasty to the offseason you set your budget and then you view the "Players Leaving" and hit start when you look at the players leaving and then export draft class. Mussa depending on how often you play madden you can make as many draftclasses after each season, I typically make 7 draft classes just to be sure.
yea im in heisman race mode, it simulates all the offseason stuff(u don't see anything). i guess u only get to export your player whens hes ready to go pro. the memory card i have has draft classes, but its just pre-picked players for that particular year.
Just played Atlanta in the MNF opener. McNabb had no time to pass, but I stuck with the run and shut down Atlanta's offense to win going away. I wonder if the real-life Eagles had fared better had they run Westbrook 22 times as I did.
I just had 16 sacks, 7 with Kearse, against the 49ers on All-Pro mode. Maybe its time to move on up to All-Madden. I won 59-0, including 6 td passes from mcnabb, 2 to owens and completions to 11 different recievers. And this is with running the ball 4 times because Buckhalter is slow and stupid with Westbrook hurt.
Quote from: MDS on October 01, 2005, 09:55:05 PM
I just had 16 sacks, 7 with Kearse, against the 49ers on All-Pro mode. Maybe its time to move on up to All-Madden. I won 59-0, including 6 td passes from mcnabb, 2 to owens and completions to 11 different recievers. And this is with running the ball 4 times because Buckhalter is slow and stupid with Westbrook hurt.
Try messing with the AI first. It's obvious you have the computer pass blocking turned way down.
Madden 360 preview (http://sports.ign.com/articles/655/655376p1.html)
QuoteThe only difference is that the Vision Cones will now be optional and turned off at default, but you will still be able to utilize the precision passing (throwing high, low, left, right) without the cones.
It would sure be nice to have that on the PS2 version. Fuggers.
P.S. Check out the videos. SEX-AY.
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When is PS3 coming out with this? I'll get it then. For now, someone needs to figure out a way to stop Jevon Kearse (18 sacks in 4 games)....2 on all-pro, 2 on all-madden.
If I control Darwin Walker and try to get the RT to block me, Jevon gets a sack 50% of the time or better.
I think he has 12 sacks through 4 all-pro games for me. I suck at the passing cone too much to go to all-Madden yet.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 04, 2005, 02:28:56 PM
QuoteThe only difference is that the Vision Cones will now be optional and turned off at default, but you will still be able to utilize the precision passing (throwing high, low, left, right) without the cones.
It would sure be nice to have that on the PS2 version. Fuggers.
P.S. Check out the videos. SEX-AY.
you can turn the cone off in the gamecube version.
You can turn the cone off, but then you can't do precision passing.
Oh god. I was looking through the pictures and the one with the entire stadium and the snow is godlike.
Ha. Watch the first movie. Notice anything odd? :-D
like how Strahan magically appears on the other side?
the drag the feet options sounds awesome and much needed. the other thing i can't stand is when running backs or receivers run routes out of bounds, especially RBs. they have to fix that glitch.
Quote from: MURP on October 04, 2005, 03:41:16 PM
like how Strahan magically appears on the other side?
indeed.
your movies glitched, strahan comes at him first on the normal side and McNabb ducks, Strahan gets up and comes back at him from the other side then. teh duh!
i HATE playing the colts. season 2, week 6. i win 49-45, with 200 rushing and 400 passing. before this week ive allowed 700-800 passing yards in 4 games. manning threw for 580 yards, and 6 TDs. Harrison and Wayne each had 3 TDs, Wayne 200 yards Harrison 250.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 28, 2005, 12:33:40 PM
I cut the players from the roster that I felt would likely never play for the team again, including Buck (replaced with Gordon), Ritchie (created Parry and replaced), Jamaal Jackson (moved Darilek to C), Steve Sciullo (created Clarke and replaced), Simon, Douglas (replaced with Juqua Thomas), and JR Reed. I also added Jason Short as the primary backup Dhani's spot and made another few "realistic" moves (including reducing/increasing key player attributes).
Players like Pinkston and McDougle, I'm just burying on the depth chart for 2005.
I also went through all the formations/subs and tried to better reflect the Eagles' tendency to rotate, especially on the defensive line. Patterson plays in passing formations... etc.
How did you do this? By modifying the roster before you started the franchise? Using fantasy draft? I read in a previous post you added McCants, etc, but they are never cut by the teams they play for, and I don't want to trade to do it.
On another note, I reduced CBucks injury grade to 1, and I haven't gotten him seriously injured once in 17 games. He misses like every other down with dumb shtein when I am trying to wear him out. What the farg? I think after the Super Bowl I'll buy his bitching ass a motorcycle and tell him to hang out with Kevin Winslow Jr.
Yes, you have to mess with the rosters BEFORE you go into franchise mode.