Frank Gore, Not a Philadelphia Eagle

Started by MDS, March 08, 2015, 06:00:11 PM

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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
its a bitch move for him to change his mind about a contract that wasn't signed but not a bitch move for an nfl team to cut someone from a signed contract?....I guess a team backing out of a non guaranteed contract to do whats best for them is cool but not a player backing out of a non guaranteed verbal agreement to do whats best for him and his family

It's not a team vs player thing.

It's well understood and written into the contracts that teams can release players prior to the end date of the contract. That is what the union has collectively bargained with the league. Also, it happens frequently and is not considered to unusual, unexpected, or done in bad faith (though players are not happy when it happens). If the players so chose, they could bargain to make all contracts guaranteed, likely at the price of significantly smaller and shorter contracts.

A handshake deal like what supposedly happened between Gore and the Eagles cannot and should not be legally upheld of course, but it is amateurish and rare for the player or agent to unilaterally void that agreement before it is even signed, just as it would have been amateurish and rare for the Eagles to unilaterally void it before it is even signed.

It's really the fault of this idiotic tampering period. You can imagine a scenario in which an RB would agree to terms with a team early in the weekend, the rest of the high profile RBs would be swooped up later in the weekend by other teams, and then at the last moment, the first RB decides to back out of his deal, totally farging the team that agreed to sign him out of being able to sign any decent FA RBs. If the Eagles had been allowed to simply sign Gore at the conclusion of negotiations, the risk would not have existed.

General_Failure

Quote from: Rome on March 09, 2015, 07:16:52 PM
I heard Gore is getting cold feet somewhere.

This did not go completely unappreciated.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Eagaholic

I know one guy who agrees with Igs


ice grillin you

Quote from: QB Eagles on March 09, 2015, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
its a bitch move for him to change his mind about a contract that wasn't signed but not a bitch move for an nfl team to cut someone from a signed contract?....I guess a team backing out of a non guaranteed contract to do whats best for them is cool but not a player backing out of a non guaranteed verbal agreement to do whats best for him and his family

It's not a team vs player thing.

It's well understood and written into the contracts that teams can release players prior to the end date of the contract. That is what the union has collectively bargained with the league. Also, it happens frequently and is not considered to unusual, unexpected, or done in bad faith (though players are not happy when it happens). If the players so chose, they could bargain to make all contracts guaranteed, likely at the price of significantly smaller and shorter contracts.

A handshake deal like what supposedly happened between Gore and the Eagles cannot and should not be legally upheld of course, but it is amateurish and rare for the player or agent to unilaterally void that agreement before it is even signed, just as it would have been amateurish and rare for the Eagles to unilaterally void it before it is even signed.

yeah its not a team vs player thing its a human thing

its well understood in life that before a contract is signed it don't mean shtein....reports are that gore was literally crying over the decision of where to go...he has every right to change his mind and not be ripped for it

are kids who verbal to a college and then flip iceholes for changing their mind?

plus there are lots of things teams tell players to get them to sign that they don't live up too...like promising a starting position or telling them they will get tons of touches...or that we wont move you safety....blah blah blah....but a man torn or confused about what to do with his life is amateurish

gimme a break
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

I think Gore was sold by Chipper, Rosenhaus realized he undersold him, and opened up the backchannels with Indy.
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

We will see in the end but it sounds like the Eagles offered more but gore has said he wants to play with luck and he is close to pagano from his Miami days
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

phillycrew

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 09, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
i wouldnt have wasted my time on him and i dont really get the point but gore is so irrelevant in the big picture its not even funny
I agree.  If we don't get him, it may turn out to be a favor.  Get a young back in the draft.  I was worried about Gore and the tempo of this offense anyway.  Give Polk a bigger role and increase Sproles' time.

ice grillin you

yeah id much rather get a young back in the draft...more than anything its more interesting...gore is zzzzzzzzz
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Zanshin


SD

Polk isn't dependable. He's always injured. He's great in his short yardage role, and Sproles is great in his role, they need an every down back.

phattymatty

chris polk is hot garbage and the fact that he is even in the conversation about the future of the team is ridiculous.

PhillyPhreak54

Per lil guy's favorite social media machine - people are saying that the First Take clowns are taking credit for Gore's change of heart

Zanshin

I mean, how upset can anyone REALLY get about losing out on a 31 year old running back, which is arguably the most fungible position and most prone to rapid decline?

ice grillin you

Quote from: Zanshin on March 10, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
I mean, how upset can anyone REALLY get about losing out on a 31 year old running back

this upset...

QuoteAdam Caplan @caplannfl · Book on Gore: Leadership, great in pass pro, excellent zone runner (also good running out of shotgun formation).

Adam Caplan @caplannfl · Eagles led NFL with 76% of runs from shotgun/pistol formations (736/974).

Geoff Mosher @GeoffMosherCSN · @RoobCSN and I wrote why Gore would be a great fit in Philly earlier this week: http://www.csnphilly...rs-frank-gore ...

Eliot Shorr-Parks @EliotShorrParks · ProFootball Focus had Gore as a better pass blocker and better pure runner (i.e. decision making) than McCoy last season. #Eagles

Adam Caplan @caplannfl · 2m2 minutes ago Also some interesting info on Maxwell--Sources: RB Gore plans to sign with Eagles http://es.pn/1KHtDjn 
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous