Kiko "Torn ACL" Alonso, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by MDS, March 03, 2015, 06:40:17 PM

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General_Failure

No dummy, don't rework contracts. That's nerd shtein. Dump his ass and get a smoothie for the next guy.

The man. The myth. The legend.

PhillyPhreak54

Now if we can just get Chipwich to dump KKKooper

ice grillin you

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2015, 12:31:22 PM
Shady's deal can be re-done and with a $143M cap paying a dude $12M is not some huge expense - especially for a star RB.

Getting rid of him is insane.

shady already balked at re doing his deal and regardless you dont allocate anything close to that much money to the rb position in todays nfl...whether you agree with that or not you might as well get used to it because to do it is bad business and its part of the landscape now
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EJ72

Had to stop by and get Eagles' fans take on this deal. I get the idea that a stud RB isn't as crucial as in the past but I can't figure out why they trade him for a LB with an injury history, even taking contracts/money into consideration. This seems kind of out of the blue but they've probably been dangling him as trade bait for awhile, is this the best deal they could come up with?

I've more or less been antsy about playing The Eagles in recent years mostly because of McCoy. To me, this isn't just trading a RB, it's trading your best offensive weapon.

On the other hand, this seems to be shaping up to be a good draft for RBs and a team can probably find a quality/decent starter into the fourth round. Maybe the idea is to draft his replacement? I think that's one reason why Dallas may let Murray walk. In Murray's case though, last season was the first time he managed to make it through a full season, he still has turnover issues and he's a little older than McCoy.

Anyway. I was just surprised by the news and there aren't many trades these days that cause me to raise an eyebrow and think WTF?

SD

Now that the initial shock of the trade wore off and I've had a day to digest this I'm happy with the deal. shady wasn't a $10 million player last year...I see no reason he'd prform to that level next season. They took him out a lot on 3rd downs and goal line. Sproles was the best rb on the team the first half of the season.

I hope they sign Spiller. When he's not injured he's a very good back. In a featured role in Chips offense he'll equal 1300 yards.

PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: EJ72 on March 04, 2015, 05:19:19 PM
Had to stop by and get Eagles' fans take on this deal. I get the idea that a stud RB isn't as crucial as in the past but I can't figure out why they trade him for a LB with an injury history, even taking contracts/money into consideration. This seems kind of out of the blue but they've probably been dangling him as trade bait for awhile, is this the best deal they could come up with?

I've more or less been antsy about playing The Eagles in recent years mostly because of McCoy. To me, this isn't just trading a RB, it's trading your best offensive weapon.

On the other hand, this seems to be shaping up to be a good draft for RBs and a team can probably find a quality/decent starter into the fourth round. Maybe the idea is to draft his replacement? I think that's one reason why Dallas may let Murray walk. In Murray's case though, last season was the first time he managed to make it through a full season, he still has turnover issues and he's a little older than McCoy.

Anyway. I was just surprised by the news and there aren't many trades these days that cause me to raise an eyebrow and think WTF?

Murray would be dumb to leave Dallas because he's got it good there with the OL.

But my thoughts are the same on Shady - you're giving away your best offensive weapon for the second year in a row. I know Kelly thinks that ay back can run in his offense ala Shanahan's one cut and go scheme. ANd while it may be true when you have a stud back you have to elevate him over the run of the mill dudes because while a run of the mill dude may get 1100yds in the system a stud like Shady could rip off much more.

He may be on the decline. Who knows? Those people tweeting and writing about the yards after contact and what RBs do at age 27 and older could be right.

MDS

shady ran for da touchdown last year so dey gots to keep him
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

Quote from: MDS on March 04, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
shady ran for da touchdown last year so dey gots to keep him

OMG REMEMBER THE GAME IN THE SNOW!
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Munson

^^^^^And we're back to what EL was talking about.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Chameleon

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2015, 06:55:17 PM
Quote from: MDS on March 04, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
shady ran for da touchdown last year so dey gots to keep him

OMG REMEMBER THE GAME IN THE SNOW!

The game thread for that week should be re-named "Silk in the Snow" absolute peak performance from McCoy. He was no of this world on that Sunday.

Rome


ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

very possible they are being overly cautious but if this is a full blown valid concussion its really troubling news....a linebacker who got a non contact concussion is not a good thing
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Rome

Or he could have slipped in the shower.  We really don't know how it happened.  But hey, let's panic.

ice grillin you

lol....yeah or he could have slipped on some ice

the hope is that its not serious not that its not a football injury....part of chips sports science is to be overly cautious add in a head injury and its very possible its minor (if thats possible with the work concussion) but that they will keep him out even after he is cleared
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous