Rest Of Baseball - 2015

[MDS]

you sound exactly like a republican

"you damn elitists and your book learnin"
"i dont know what this gay marriage is. dont like it."

same head in the sand mindset.

just like the world is going the way of people being able to read and gays being able to marry....the baseball world is going the way of the VORP. even your hero, roob, is referencing babip. welcome to 2005, tex.

[Dillen]

ERA+ adjusts ERA to ballpark and league average. League average is 100. One of the most unnecessary pitching stats. If you want to use advanced pitching stats all you need is FIP and that's it.

I don't know if anyone actually uses VORP. The only place I've ever seen it mentioned is here.

lol @ WAR being unbelievably awful.

I use research methods and statistics at work to do things better than most people who are using "traditional" methods. The field deals with the exact same two problems sabermetrics has. 1. a huge chunk of the population automatically rejects it for no other reason than it's new (ish? not really, at this point), different, and can't be understood in 3 minutes 2. people who are the ones who do this work are absolutely terrible at communicating the purpose and effectiveness in simpleton terms.

[smeags]

i never gave sabermetrics a chance until now because of it being equated to gay marriage.

[PhillyPhreak54]

you sound exactly like a republican

"you damn elitists and your book learnin"
"i dont know what this gay marriage is. dont like it."

same head in the sand mindset.

just like the world is going the way of people being able to read and gays being able to marry....the baseball world is going the way of the VORP. even your hero, roob, is referencing babip. welcome to 2005, tex.

My hero? Republican? Tex?

[ice grillin you]

I use research methods and statistics at work to do things better than most people who are using "traditional" methods. The field deals with the exact same two problems sabermetrics has. 1. a huge chunk of the population automatically rejects it for no other reason than it's new (ish? not really, at this point), different, and can't be understood in 3 minutes 2. people who are the ones who do this work are absolutely terrible at communicating the purpose and effectiveness in simpleton terms.

I don't know what you do but im sure its more meaningful than the game of baseball....and even then im sure there are so many meaningless numbers in your field....baseball was probably bordering on having too many stats before sabremetrics...sabremetrics has just become ridiculous....its for people trying to give meaning to a meaningless life...and don't get me wrong im not hating...my life is less than meaningless...but im not trying to invent baseball stats to better it...nerd vorp gulp when i swallow hear the BOOM!

[QB Eagles]

The most gimmicky and useless stat of them all for evaluating performance is clearly W-L for a pitcher. It's far more of a joke than even arcane SABR stats like UZR and XR. Discuss.

[ice grillin you]

less wins is always better...ask heidi

[Dillen]

@igy - that's my point #2 - there needs to be a process to weed out all that BS. Saber is (typically) useful, but Everything just adds adds adds to some pile of knowledge instead of focusing on the important pieces and tossing the rest. The newer stuff that is also useful gets the raw deal because there's already so much garbage out there.

[MDS]

less wins is always better...ask heidi

honestly...lets cut the shticks and all our message board bla bla bla

can you really explain how pitching records meaning something in baseball 2015 beyond "wins are good, loses are bad"

[ice grillin you]

I can only explain that wins are better than losses

[MDS]

[Dillen]

Some Dodger pitcher tried getting an 85 mph fastball in on Stanton's hands today. He hit it out of the stadium

[BigEd76]

^^ jfc

[PhillyPhreak54]

Holy shtein what a farging blast.

Wish the clip was Scully's call though. The Fish announcers are annoying.

[ice grillin you]

is there a bigger train wreck in baseball than the padres

aj preller makes roob look like pat gillick