Eagles Fired Tom Gamble

Started by PhillyPhreak54, December 31, 2014, 02:22:25 PM

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SD


ice grillin you

eugene mass media wasnt mass

I was reading a couple months ago that chip despised having to go on the angelo show every week....it kinda surprised me because hes really good on the show but apparently he didn't realize that part of being an nfl head coach....in college he could do the shows he wanted to do when he wanted to do them....but in big business there are obligations and chip don't like rules that aren't his own

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

He can handle the media from what I've seen. No coach can handle the city's major newspaper saying there's a power struggle between the head football coach and an accountant GM and the head football coach is losing. It's unprofessional to do so and does nothing but deteriorate an already fragile relationship.

Again, this is where Lurie should step in and smooth it over. He lets stuff like this go all the time and it becomes a ticking time bomb.

ice grillin you

that ship has sailed....no newspaper cover is going to change anything...lurie created it when he gave roseman the crown...no football guy especially a guy like chip whose entire life is 24/7 football and who worships the game is going to take orders from farging howie roseman

the conundrum for me is that I actually trust howie more with player personnel than I do chip....I don't think any coach should also be a gm but especially not a coach like chip who is 1000% an x and o guy...you cant be as obsessively detailed as chip is about everything and also have time to properly evaluate college players....plus I just don't like chips philosophy when it comes to what kinds of players he likes
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 02, 2015, 10:20:38 AM
that ship has sailed....no newspaper cover is going to change anything...lurie created it when he gave roseman the crown...no football guy especially a guy like chip whose entire life is 24/7 football and who worships the game is going to take orders from farging howie roseman

the conundrum for me is that I actually trust howie more with player personnel than I do chip....I don't think any coach should also be a gm but especially not a coach like chip who is 1000% an x and o guy...you cant be as obsessively detailed as chip is about everything and also have time to properly evaluate college players....plus I just don't like chips philosophy when it comes to what kinds of players he likes

Again this is on Lurie. When you're billionaire owner Jeff Lurie and you decide to bring a no nonsense football coach in to go with your nerdy accountant you better make sure you keep tabs on their relationship. Lurie is too much of a liberal nice guy and lets shtein go. Being an owner isn't all about letting others run the show, first and foremost you have to take ultimate responsbility and man up when you see problems. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

And yeah I'd rather have Roseman pick players too. He is smart enough to know he doesn't know much about football and will actually listen to his scouting department. Chip isn't giving them a second thought. He's still in a college mindset where he's picking kids to fit his system. Doesn't work that way in the NFL where systems are only as good as the players.

MDS

keep in mind the 3 of them are still in hiding...especially lurie

they are letting the media create a story and definitely the narrative. thats never a good thing. lurie should've sat for a presser 2 days ago and smoothed this thing over. his org. looks ridiculous and he's doing nothing to stop it.

this chip/howie feud is easy newspaper/talk radio fodder and will hang over every single thing related to them team until they talk about it, and even then, it probably wont stop because their answers are going to be bullshtein. its going to be like the desean thing, but worse....pimp got cut in march and chip got asked about it in december.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

lurie already spoke on it...this was an issue before gamble was fired...the whole thing started when lurie went in front of the media to give his end of year assessment on the team and said two things:

1. that there was in fact a chip howie rift

2. that howie was going nowhere
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

the bigger the lie, the more they believe
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Geowhizzer


SD

Quote from: ice grillin you on January 02, 2015, 12:26:13 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/jeffrey-luries-power-structure-created-toxic-environment-eagles-front-office

Been saying this for years, especially after the seasons over and crap like this happens.
Quote from: SD on January 02, 2015, 11:22:01 AM
Again this is on Lurie. When you're billionaire owner Jeff Lurie and you decide to bring a no nonsense football coach in to go with your nerdy accountant you better make sure you keep tabs on their relationship. Lurie is too much of a liberal nice guy and lets shtein go. Being an owner isn't all about letting others run the show, first and foremost you have to take ultimate responsbility and man up when you see problems. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.

Lurie isn't a good owner. He's average at best. It's great he signs checks, and stays out of the football operations, it's not good that he leaves it in the hands of the wrong people. If you're going to own a team then OWN the farging team. Don't sit back and not address turmoil. You don't need to be Jerry Jones but you do need to run your shtein. The Eagles are too concerned with being a responsible business model and less concerned with winning a championship.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 02, 2015, 12:40:26 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 02, 2015, 12:26:13 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/jeffrey-luries-power-structure-created-toxic-environment-eagles-front-office

This offseason is going to be quite the clusterfarg, isn't it...

i hope im wrong but i think we hear at any time that chip kelly and the eagles have agreed to part ways

Quote from: SD on January 02, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Lurie isn't a good owner. He's average at best.

i know hes a liberal and you hate that but hes definitely above average...he certainly is not perfect and im the first to criticize him when it warrants but id easily take him over more than half the other owners in the nfl....he definitely needs to step up and get a hold of this situation tho.....stat

the worst thing about lurie by far is that hes from boston
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SD

I could care less how liberal he is, Bill Clinton is one of my idols. But 20 years and zero championships speaks volumes. He stayed with Reid forever...why? Because he was too afraid to shake things up and hurt anyones feelings. He's rich and I'm sure he wants a championship but his hunger should be like the fans who would sell their souls for one before they die.

I agree with you about Chip and picking players, but they're not going to get a coach as good as him. He might be the top offensive football mind in the world. Howie had such a hard on for Chip that he agreed to do whatever he wanted to get him here then changed his mind once he saw he didn't know how to pick NFL players.

hbionic

I haven't been to the stadium but anything that's helps the envirempnment and reduces cost, I'm in. It's just not a sexy thing to see. But the mindset is in the right place. They just need to make the rest of the place feel like the Roman coliseum.

My whole beef with Luire is exactly what SD says...own the team, act like you care.
I said watch the game and you will see my spirit manifest.-ILLEAGLE 02/04/05


ice grillin you

stadium is kinda like lurie...better than most but not overwhelmingly great...but really how great can a football stadium be
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous