Marcus Mariota Watch

Started by MDS, November 17, 2014, 01:32:55 AM

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QB Eagles

Put it this way: if Mariota is a bad enough prospect to somehow fall to the Eagles past all those QB-depserate teams, then he is probably going to be a terrible QB.

ice grillin you

Quote from: QB Eagles on January 09, 2015, 04:41:26 PM
Put it this way: if Mariota is a bad enough prospect to somehow fall to the Eagles past all those QB-depserate teams, then he is probably going to be a terrible QB.

ive never understood why eagle fans want him so bad....because chip recruited him?....so stupid....go by whether the guy is gonna be a great qb or not and as ive said for a while now I think hes a huge risk....plus do we really trust chip in evaluating players?

id much rather have jameis than mariota altho neither are going to be anywhere near within reach
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PhillyPhreak54

I trust Chip in evaluating QBs for sure - especially for his system.

Plus he's been in the NFL long enough to know what he needs in players

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54


SunMo

i feel Jameis is gonna be a bust...i just feels like Josh Freeman to me
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

ice grillin you

he very well might be but hes still a better prospect than mariota.....qb class this year might be the worst ever
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

QB Eagles

2005 - Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith
2006 - Jay Cutler
2007 - no one who could remotely be called a franchise QB
2008 - Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco
2009 - Matt Stafford
2010 - no one who could remotely be called a franchise QB
2011 - Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton
2012 - Andrew Luck, RGIII, Ryan Tannehill, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles
2013 - no one who could remotely be called a franchise QB
2014 - jury's out but no one took the NFL by storm

So over the last decade, I would say the draft has produced two elite QBs (Rodgers, Luck), two more that the fanbases can be really happy with (Newton, Wilson), two more that are good enough to still clearly be franchise QBs by any definition (Flacco, Tannehill). Everyone else on the above list is erratic enough to drive their fanbases crazy.

6 guys in 10 drafts good enough to make teams feel like they found their permanent QB. So yeah it wouldn't exactly be a shock to see zero worthwhile QBs come out of this draft either.

This is why the league is rigging things to make it easier for QBs to put up video game stats.

SD

I think Mariota can be like Tannehill. Good enough to throw for 4000 yards and run a little...will sneak into the top 10 qb area but will never be elite or top 5. If you're mortgaging the future it better be for a Luck type. I could see giving up some future 1sts for him but I wouldn't go rg3 type deal.

Really who are we kidding anyway...embrace Foles and pray they fix the dbs

Munson

Any reason why Mariotta can't be Russell Wilson? Don't know if he's as good a runner, but is he that much worse of a passer?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Tomahawk

Because I watched about half a game, I want the Eagles to draft Cody Fajardo...pretty much the same collegiate stats as Kaepernick so he should fit Kelly's system.

rjs246

Uh, I would call Wilson elite or pretty goddamned close. He is not asked to throw 500 times a year and has no WRs to work with. All he does is put up Troy Aikman like numbers and win football games. Sometimes single-handedly. I would give unimportant body parts for Wilson to be the Eagles' QB.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

QB Eagles

He can become elite. To me he's like early Tom Brady. Just a winner but hasn't taken the leap where he is statistically dominating opponents. Not yet, anyway.

Anyway, the point isn't to bicker over what precise category guys are in. You can make all kinds of arguments there. The bigger point is the college game isn't cranking out NFL-ready QBs. The college game has become too different from the NFL, and at the same time NFL franchises have become more impatient about trying to develop QB talent over multiple seasons. Even with someone who's managed to transition into a new-breed mobile QB like Wilson, you gotta wonder about career longevity the way that he plays the game.

So even if the Eagles had the #1 overall pick it would be foolish to be expecting a QB savior.

rjs246

#283
No one expects a savior. They expect talent and an improvement on the field and a qb with talent and familiarity with the offense is pretty tasty.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

exactly

if chip is the genius everyone thinks he is you don't need a dominant qb...you need one who is a threat on the read option and who doesnt turn it over 4000 times a year
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous