Week Seven - 2014

Started by PhillyPhreak54, October 19, 2014, 02:06:19 PM

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MDS

kap is obscenely talented but hes a farging idiot....question is could chip reel him in

newton i actually quite like. his offense is a joke and he gets pouty. the thing for him is would he become another donovan.
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

phattymatty

i still think are SB contenders with foles, but i don't know how anyone can think a qb who can run doesn't make this offense twice as good.

that awful little pirouette/jump fake pass that foles does twice a game just isn't fooling anyone.

too bad vick became shtein at the exact same time chipper came in.

Zanshin

Vick was mostly that zesty guy.

Zanshin

Wow, I didn't even know zesty was still a filter word. Shows how much I use zesty.

rjs246

Looks like I missed some truly interesting back and forth in this thread. And, the Eagles would totally beat the Broncos because football.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 21, 2014, 11:19:27 AM
I just don't think Kapernick is accurate enough.

kap - 63.8 - 11 td - 5 int
foles - 59.5 - 10 td - 7 int

admittedly kap throws more high percentage passes and routes but lets not act like foles is some joe montana marksman and kap is throwin in the low mid 50's...in fact kaps average yards per throw this year is even higher than foles...im not sure if its because of the eagles strong W/L record or what but I don't think people realize how bad of a year foles is having

Quote from: SD on October 21, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
Kaepernick would be more accurate than Foles in Chip's offense plus his ability to run would be an added dimension.

yeah the threat of a run from the qb spot in this offense would completely transform and elevate it....im gonna go out on a limb and say a read option offense would be much more effective with qb who has the option to run....also chip would coach up kap to improve him....but even under those knuckleheads harbaugh and roman hes still having a better year than foles
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igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Diomedes

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2014, 10:41:11 AMlets not act like foles is some joe montana marksman

What would we do without a strong voice speaking truth to power?  Who else could put a stop to all the Foles >>> Montana talk around here but you?
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

questioning someone elses accuracy as even a round about way of defeding foles might as well be calling him joe montana.....foles has pretty bad accuracy
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Diomedes

For sure, for sure.  Keep up the good fight, man.  Wouldn't want anyone to defend Foles.  Can't have that, not even the wiff of it.  Thanks for keeping us out of trouble.
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ice grillin you

thats kinda the point....there really is no defense of him right now

when the eagles defense is a bigger reason for why they are winning than the qb position it might be time as a fan to re-evaluate nick
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Seabiscuit36

I'm not talking Stats Billybean, i'm talking watching them play, otherwise known as Coach IGY's viewpoint. 

If you want a subjective look at the two.  Here's their performance to date this year.  Foles has looked terrible, but his stats for the most part are right in line. 
Rk   Player                 Pos    Comp   Att   Pct   Att/G     Yds          Avg       Yds/G   TD   Int   1st   1st%   Lng   20+   40+   Sck   Rate
11   Colin Kaepernick   QB   143   224   63.8   32     1,719   7.7   245.6   11   5   81   36.2   80T   26   2   19   94.3
15   Nick Foles   PHI           QB   141   237   59.5   39.5     1,628   6.9   271.3   10   7   77   32.5   68T   22   4   7   82

And a look at 2013 which was super foles
Rk   Player                    Comp  Att    Pct   Att/G     Yds          Avg   Yds/G   TD   Int   1st   1st%   Lng   20+   40+   Sck   Rate
20   Colin Kaepernick   243     416    58.4    26     3,197   7.7   199.8   21   8   147   35.3   64T   46   10   39   91.6
22   Nick Foles   PHI      203     317    64    24.4     2,891   9.1   222.4   27   2   129   40.7   63T   52   13   28   119.2

I get what your saying, Kap physically is so elite to Foles its ridiculous.  Over the course of last year Kap was below where Foles Comp % is now.  In the end, Foles needs to stop with the happy feet, and just stop turning the ball over.   
"For all the civic slurs, for all the unsavory things said of the Philadelphia fans, also say this: They could teach loyalty to a dog. Their capacity for pain is without limit." -Bill Lyons

ice grillin you

they are essentially equal in numbers (kap better this year) yet foles is in a superior situation for a qb....if they switched teams it wouldnt be close

and I know this from watching both of them
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

IGY, the commercial with the headphones wasn't speaking directly to you. Much like with forest fires, you are under no obligation to do it all yourself. Plus, we already know he's the man he's the man he's the man.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Rome


shorebird

So the only reason Foles is even half decent is because of his head coach and his system. Igor couldn't say he was good if he had a gun at his head.
And is someone really bringing midget man dog killer into this conversation?  My God.