Eagles 2014 Draft

[Rome]

Let's get this bitch started by posting this gem:

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/chris-steubers-eagles-mock-draft-20

Steubing.  How does this guy get paid to write?

[PhillyPhreak54]

That guy is such a fraud.

But he was the personnel guy for the Georgia Force!

[Don Ho]

Projected trade with Steelers?  God I hate when they do that.

[Eagaholic]

I haven't read much of his stuff, mostly because of how bad what I saw was. But I agree with most of what he wrote there, though I think the Eagles might be able to get Barr more cheaply. I'd like to see the Eagles go WR in the 1st but if Barr is available at 15 I'd go for it for a 3rd and 5th which I think they probably could get him for if no one else is in the bidding for the Steelers slot. Steubid's proposed 1st, 3rd and 4th is a little too much though in a deep draft and with so many places in need of upgrade.

I disagree with him (and most others) that they badly need to upgrade at OLB. Barwin did a good job on the strong side. Cole wasn't too good in the early season but neither was anybody else. He came on strong with 8 sacks in the last half of the year (where he usually fades). His salary balloons after this season but if need be they could wait til next year to address the rush backer position imo so I wouldn't go overboard, even for a great prospect like Barr. I'd give up about as much to get Barr as Dion Jordan.

A bonus with going up to get Barr though is it also keeps a potential game changer away from Dallas who would be looking to replace Demarcus Ware (NYG could also be interested in him).

[MDS]

please get the white linebacker....please!!

[ice grillin you]

please get the white linebacker....please!!

superbowl shuffle of white doods

[MDS]

its all about character guys

character and heart win super bowl titles. talent does not.

[SD]

Let's get this bitch started by posting this gem:

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/chris-steubers-eagles-mock-draft-20

Steubing.  How does this guy get paid to write?

Colt Brennan has the it factor

[ice grillin you]

they shouldnot trade up in this draft at all....i dont care who falls....its one of the deepest drafts in years and they dont have a lot of picks to begin with...if anything they should be looking to trade back and acquire picks

[Rome]

Historically speaking that's usually not the smart thing to do.   More Pro Bowl players come from the top 15 picks than the rest of the draft combined.  It's not like one player is going to magically transform them into the 89 49ers, but still, if they see a guy that they feel is worth going up for they shouldn't be skittish about it despite their uneven/borderline putrid draft history.

[ice grillin you]

top 15 includes the top 5 though right?

i dont know the math but im guessing that the number 15 pick doesnt turn out significantly better than the number 23 pick....if at all

its also proven that the more players you pick the odds go up that one of them will pan out

[Sgt PSN]

They could always trade out of the 1st and grab a pro-bowl WR/PR in the 2nd round that they'll end up cutting in 6 years.

[Rome]

The last five drafts from 2012-2008:

2012 - 5/15
2011 - 11/15
2010 - 10/15
2009 - 3/15
2008 - 5/15

So 34 out of 75 players in the top 15 of those drafts made the Pro Bowl.

I didn't do 16-32 but judging from the first stats, I'd say going up is worth the risk just in sheer numbers (45% chosen make the PB).

Granted the Pro Bowl is useless but that's a pretty decent indicator of talent.

[General_Failure]

Is that the first selections to the Pro Bowl, or is that taking into account every player that got in because 10 other players got hurt, "injured", or were playing in the super bowl? This is important.

[ice grillin you]

The last five drafts from 2012-2008:

2012 - 5/15
2011 - 11/15
2010 - 10/15
2009 - 3/15
2008 - 5/15

So 34 out of 75 players in the top 15 of those drafts made the Pro Bowl.

I didn't do 16-32 but judging from the first stats, I'd say going up is worth the risk just in sheer numbers (45% chosen make the PB).

Granted the Pro Bowl is useless but that's a pretty decent indicator of talent.

the problem with this is that you are including picks at the very top of the draft....if you are telling me the eagles can trade up and get jadevon clowney then id be all for it...but what we are talking about here is the eagles possibly moving up a few slots to get an anthony barr if he drops....theres a big difference btwn a top five pick and getting a guy at number 15 whose stock is sinkholeing around the league...in other words you are including in your math picks that the eagles have no chance of getting this year