2014 NFL Draft Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

on paper he shouldnt be in the top 20....i wouldnt take him in the first round....but because hes a white qb and has a cool nick name he will go way higher than he should

No sir.

He should be top 10 because he can ball. He's got arm strength, mobility, accuracy and the intangibles to be a good QB.

The stupid nickname helps soccer moms know who he is...but anyone who watches football and knows the game can see that he's good

[Rome]

He's also 6'1" & 210.  That works great in college but it's a near death sentence in the NFL.   Again, I wouldn't take him really high because I don't think he's going to be a great professional, but you can't really deny the talent he's displayed at the college level.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I don't even sweat the height any more. Brees and Wilson have kind of shown that you can be successful as a shorter QB. Of course it helps to be taller to see over the big OL but that can be schemed around a bit.

[Rome]

I wouldn't draft him because his sister is an illiterate moron who posts stupid shtein like this to Twitter:



Seriously, though... you're = you are and your = your.  How farging difficult is it to get that straight?   I see it on Facebook all the time and I'd honestly like to take hammers to people who don't know the difference.[/grammarnazi]

[General_Failure]

She used caps and punctuation (almost). By internet standards that makes her a Rhodes Scholar.

[Don Ho]

Well she could have gone down the "they're" "their" "there" road.

[PhillyPhreak54]

To the surprise of no one...Clowney declared immediately after the game

[PhillyPhreak54]

Looks like Teddy B will be signing with JayZ's agency

[Seabiscuit36]

lol...you are proving my point....those guys were physical specimans....slave masters picking the field negros....when 5'10 blacks with short arms start getting worldly hype and picked top 5 overall let me know

Wait, did i log into the wrong cf?

[Sgt PSN]

I don't even sweat the height any more. Brees and Wilson have kind of shown that you can be successful as a shorter QB. Of course it helps to be taller to see over the big OL but that can be schemed around a bit.

You're confusing the exceptions with the rule.  Wilson and Brees are, to the best of my memory, the only 2 QBs that are 6'1 or less who haven't had much limitation on their game in my life time.  Even Vick at his best in 2010 still had balls knocked down at the LOS or overthrew some guys because he had to elevate his passes to keep them from getting batted down.

But aside from his height, there's also the issue of durability. Manziel has taken some hits and he's not a thick dude. At least Bree's gets rid of the ball quickly and doesnt get hit very often and Wilson has some girth so if he were to take a hit, his body can absorb it better than Manziel could. 

Could he be an exception to the rule as well?  Sure, why not?  I just know that I wouldn't want the next 5 years of my team's future riding on the hope that I drafted an exception to the rule with my 1st round pick...especially when you're talking about a top 5-10 pick. It's one thing to grab a JPP type guy with boom or bust potential in the 1st round because that doesn't set your franchise back 3-5 years if you miss.

[Eagaholic]

I don't even sweat the height any more. Brees and Wilson have kind of shown that you can be successful as a shorter QB. Of course it helps to be taller to see over the big OL but that can be schemed around a bit.

You're confusing the exceptions with the rule.  Wilson and Brees are, to the best of my memory, the only 2 QBs that are 6'1 or less who haven't had much limitation on their game in my life time.  Even Vick at his best in 2010 still had balls knocked down at the LOS or overthrew some guys because he had to elevate his passes to keep them from getting batted down.


But aside from his height, there's also the issue of durability. Manziel has taken some hits and he's not a thick dude. At least Bree's gets rid of the ball quickly and doesnt get hit very often and Wilson has some girth so if he were to take a hit, his body can absorb it better than Manziel could. 

Could he be an exception to the rule as well?  Sure, why not?  I just know that I wouldn't want the next 5 years of my team's future riding on the hope that I drafted an exception to the rule with my 1st round pick...especially when you're talking about a top 5-10 pick. It's one thing to grab a JPP type guy with boom or bust potential in the 1st round because that doesn't set your franchise back 3-5 years if you miss.

Are you forgetting Jeff Kemp? I don't remember that height was a problem for Jeff Garcia though. Sonny Jurgensen was another Eagle QB and was 5-11 and a hofer. OK, maybe he was before your time, I just brought him up because its fun to mention the taterskins went after him once they found out his real name was Christian Adolph.

[Sgt PSN]

I think everyone has forgotten about Jeff Kemp....including Jeff Kemp.

Flutie is the only other midget I can think of who enjoyed a moderate level of success in the NFL.

[Rome]

It's one thing to grab a JPP type guy with boom or bust potential in the 1st round because that doesn't set your franchise back 3-5 years if you miss.

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/02/teddy-bridgewater-2014-nfl-draft/

[ice grillin you]

He's also 6'1" & 210.  That works great in college but it's a near death sentence in the NFL.   Again, I wouldn't take him really high because I don't think he's going to be a great professional, but you can't really deny the talent he's displayed at the college level.

i think you are going to see when his true measurables come out he is going to be under 6'0 and under 200 lbs....im not 100% sure of his weight but theres no farging way hes 6'1...basically his size is a death sentence in the pros where he wont be able to run away from people quite like he did in college...its one thing to be short and a pocket qb....i mean you certainly are at a disadvantage there as well but you are really in a world of trouble to have a mini frame like manzell and be a scrambling/running qb...i mean look at the punishment rg3 has taken and hes 6'2 225

people bring up russell wilson in comparison to manzell...but forget that he was a third rounder....i would def take manzell in the third or fourth round

could manzell have some highlite type plays int he league sure...the guy has talent for sure....hes not a scrub....but would i put my all my eggs in his basket...meaning a top 5 pick....to be my franchises future.....hell no