Fire Chip Kelly

[SD]

I'm proud of Jeff. He tolerated Chips lies because if the teams successful why make Chip look bad. As soon as he had enough he fired his ass and told the truth. That's what an owner with a sac would do. I give credit to his new wife too.

[smeags]

Will be another fun ride of an off-season.

[smeags]

I'm proud of Jeff. He tolerated Chips lies because if the teams successful why make Chip look bad. As soon as he had enough he fired his ass and told the truth. That's what an owner with a sac would do. I give credit to his new wife too.

so you forgive him for the solar panels and wind turbines ?

[SunMo]

i thought lurie came off really weak in the PC.  talking about a coach that will open his heart and not establishing a strong front office structure.

[ice grillin you]

the coach opening his heart stuff and lurie talking about spending this week with his players just shows how much chip poisoned that place with how he dealt with people....it reminds me of the quote in the offseason from someone in the organization about how everyone from the cafeteria workers to upper level executives hated chip

the front office stuff is not good

[PhillyPhreak54]

i thought lurie came off really weak in the PC.  talking about a coach that will open his heart and not establishing a strong front office structure.

Yeah the FO structure is an issue

[PhillyPhreak54]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2015/12/fans-call-chip-kelly-after-firing-from-eagles-yell-go-pats-video/

[SunMo]

if he wants Howie to be the GM he should just do it.  this collaborative effort is bullshtein.  i'm actually in the minority when it comes to Howie because i think after the Danny Watkins 2011 draft disaster he admitted he changed things up as far as their scouting.

2012 draft was real good

Round 1 - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi St. - Story

Round 2 - Mychal Kendricks, LB, Cal - Story

Round 2 - Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall - Story

Round 3 - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona - Story

Round 4 - Brandon Boykin, CB/KR, Georgia - Story

Round 5 - Dennis Kelly, OT, Purdue - Story

Round 6 - Marvin McNutt Jr, WR, Iowa - Story

Round 6 - Brandon Washington, OL, Miami - Story

Round 7 - Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas State - Story


2013 is ok but not great.  This was Chip's first year and I doubt he was running it but had heavy input

2013   1   4   Lane Johnson   
2013   2   35   Zach Ertz   TE   
2013   3   67   Bennie Logan   DT   
2013   4   98   Matt Barkley   QB   
2013   5   136   Earl Wolff   DB   
2013   7   212   Joe Kruger   DE      
2013   7   218   Jordan Poyer   
2013   7   239   David King

2014 and 2015 were all chip

it's only two drafts that I would say are more Howie than anything else but they aren't bad. 

[ice grillin you]

2013 was the only year that probably was all or mostly his draft

andy ran all his drafts once he gained full control after modrack was canned

even though howie had the title of gm andy still had final say and ran everything same way maryowitz was gm under chip

[Sgt PSN]

2013 picks 1-3 turned out to be pretty good. Barkley turned out to be terrible, but you can't really blame anyone for grabbing him there. He was a consensus top 5  pick the year before, probably even #1. Picks 5-8 are probably what most drafts produce that late. Some fodder, a serviceable player, and guys I don't remember. Basically it's probably a very average draft, which sounds really farging dreamy compared to the last 2. 

[QB Eagles]

I'm not really giving a ton of credit for taking Lane Johnson #4 overall. He's an average player. He was the next O-line guy on everyone's chart. Right before him was Luke Joeckel, a guy who is more slowly developing into an average player. If the Eagles draft two picks earlier, I'm sure they would have taken him.

[ice grillin you]

i agree with sunny on 2013 in the sense that its tough to know how much influence chip had...sure seems like he had quite a bit with all the pac 10 guys lane johnson being a super athletic tackle lots of team captains and degree holders etc...

[Sgt PSN]

I'm not really giving a ton of credit for taking Lane Johnson #4 overall. He's an average player. He was the next O-line guy on everyone's chart. Right before him was Luke Joeckel, a guy who is more slowly developing into an average player. If the Eagles draft two picks earlier, I'm sure they would have taken him.

True, but they drafted guys right around the spot he should have been taken. It's not like Johnson had a bunch of 3rd round grades assigned to him like a certain LB did.  And he didnt just learn how to play football 4 years ago between calls for pulling cats out of trees.  Sometimes you pick the right player in the right position and he still doesn't fully work out. Other times it works out beyond expectations. I can live with it either way.

Johnson, if nothing else is serviceable. Not what you hope for with a #4 (I think) pick, but it's definitely better than a total bust who can't play at all.

[MDS]

howie might have had the "final call" in 2013, but thats when he and chip were on speaking terms, so there was definitely a ton of collaboration

ertz and especially barkley have chip's DNA all over them.

[Eagles_Legendz]

I'm not ready to blow up the '15 draft yet.  Agholor being awful this year is tanking it, but Hicks was great and Rowe was actually pretty decent once he got on the field.  It's too early to really evaluate.  Certainly not lumping it in with the 2014 dumpster fire just yet.