2013 Training Camp/Preseason Thread

[ice grillin you]

wait they made you pay 300 bucks and then the reception was suspect?

[Geowhizzer]

Yep.  Did end up getting reimbursed something (I want to say $50) because there was a week that was completely unwatchable.  And my internet connection is well above the specs for Sunday Ticket.

[General_Failure]

http://firstrowus1.eu/sport/american-football.html Watch a zesty team on a zesty illegal internet stream.

[Diomedes]

Save the $300.  Skip Red Zone.

Take a hundred bucks and save it.

Take another hundred fifty and treat your wife to her favorite restaurant. 

Take the last $50 as seed money for your food and beer budget against the few Eagles games you will get on the national broadcast across your normal service.

Errands.

[ice grillin you]

Save the $300.  Skip Red Zone.

Take a hundred bucks and save it.

Take another hundred fifty and treat your wife to her favorite restaurant. 

Take the last $50 as seed money for your food and beer budget against the few Eagles games you will get on the national broadcast across your normal service.

Errands.

Root for Orioles and Ravens

[ice grillin you]

if you already know they arent gonna be good why does it matter if it was the first game or not

Finite!

i cant wait to put out my questions this year.....

[MDS]

is one preseason game the all time record for fans quitting on a season?

[General_Failure]

It would have to be a really zesty number one overall draft pick announcement.

[Don Ho]

http://firstrowus1.eu/sport/american-football.html Watch a zesty team on a zesty illegal internet stream.

Worked for me last year.  Save the money and have a good cup of coffee and a nice breakfast while watching a fuzzy, frozen feed.

[Munson]

That's not a frozen feed, the offense just hasn't gained any yards

[ice grillin you]

is one preseason game the all time record for fans quitting on a season?

how about zero preseason games....how about before last season ended

everyone has known for a year or two that they wouldnt be good again until at least 2014....thats why sb is so hilarious getting upset at people for ripping them during the game the other night

[Rome]

I think a bit of perspective might be in order, though.   They're going to be bad on defense.  I mean, they are, so...

However, let's remind ourselves that it was Tom Brady who was shredding them so that's expected.   What is really concerning to me is the ole' run defense we saw.  That's completely unacceptable to me.  I can understand the secondary getting torn to pieces by the best quarterback of his generation but stopping the run is about heart and those Hoydas showed none of it the other night.   

I know it's preseason and all but show some farging pride already.

[QB Eagles]

Being shredded by Brady doesn't matter. The fact that they gave up touchdowns doesn't matter. It was a preseason vanilla defense that has little relation to the in-season defense (other than to get the guys used to the 3-4). I doubt they made any adjustments whatsoever to react to what the Patriots were doing. Preseason games aren't real.

What matters about the defense from the game is the individual performances. Most of the players did not play well, displaying physical limitations, poor decision-making, and lack of discipline. That's why we know they will suck during the season. DeMeco Ryans not knowing where he's supposed to be, Trent Cole looking confused and out-of-place at OLB, Fletcher Cox getting pushed around, Kenny Phillips being the slowest guy on the field, Nate Allen being an embarrassment all-around -- none of that has to do with Brady or Belichick.

Also, I rarely buy into "heart", "wanting to win" etc arguments. These guys are fighting for their jobs. The reason they are sloppy is because they simply aren't very good players (and perhaps coached poorly too, although it's too early to come to that conclusion). Stopping the run isn't about heart, it's about properly diagnosing plays and sealing gaps (which the defense was terrible at), tackling (oops Nate Allen), and having defensive backs who are noticeably faster than 250lb RBs (oops Kenny Phillips). It'll take a few solid drafts for this defense to get anywhere close to where it needs to be.

[Rome]

Motherfargers quit on the field all the time and you can smell it when they've checked out.   They played gutless all last season and routinely got their faces pushed in.  Of all the things that bothered me about that team, that was the worst.   

[Munson]

It'd be nice to have just one dominating, nasty, monster on defense. Just one.