Game of Thrones

[QB Eagles]

jaime and jon/sansa are going to cross paths eventually, that should be a nice meeting. does it go by the books ?

Jon and Sansa are well beyond the books, although Davos has been rallying northern houses in a similar manner for Stannis. Overall, things are quite different in the North from the books anyway (Sansa was never married to Ramsay Bolton, for instance, and hasn't been to the North since early in the first book).

Jaime's scenes this week followed the books more closely than any other scenes this season, although it looks like the way the siege gets resolved next week could be quite different. In the books, he is significantly less devoted to Cersei by this point, too. He knows she is an enormous bitch and is aware that she's been farging other dudes. He's still in love, but every time he thinks of her there is a huge reservoir of bitterness. Anyone who's been in love with an evil bitch knows what that's like. In the show they have largely reverted Jaime to his Season 1 self, which makes no sense to me given his character progression in the first four seasons.

[smeags]

it seems weather going slightly by the books or completely off, things are going to start coming together, no doubt via the bumpiest route possible, to all the pieces lining themselves up for the ultimate showdown, against the dead.

[Eagles_Legendz]

jaime and jon/sansa are going to cross paths eventually, that should be a nice meeting. does it go by the books ?

Jon and Sansa are well beyond the books, although Davos has been rallying northern houses in a similar manner for Stannis. Overall, things are quite different in the North from the books anyway (Sansa was never married to Ramsay Bolton, for instance, and hasn't been to the North since early in the first book).

Jaime's scenes this week followed the books more closely than any other scenes this season, although it looks like the way the siege gets resolved next week could be quite different. In the books, he is significantly less devoted to Cersei by this point, too. He knows she is an enormous bitch and is aware that she's been farging other dudes. He's still in love, but every time he thinks of her there is a huge reservoir of bitterness. Anyone who's been in love with an evil bitch knows what that's like. In the show they have largely reverted Jaime to his Season 1 self, which makes no sense to me given his character progression in the first four seasons.

It's a little annoying to me.  His motivations in the book slowly evolve into doing what he thinks is honorable and less what Cersei wants.  However this seems sort of an out growth of the show making Cersei decidedly more sympathetic than her book counterpart. 

[Munson]

Maybe Cersei goes medieval in Kings Landing while Jaime is away and her actions end up getting Tommen killed, and that's kind of what finally separates Jaime from her emotionally?

[smeags]

Maybe Cersei goes medieval in Kings Landing while Jaime is away and her actions end up getting Tommen killed, and that's kind of what finally separates Jaime from her emotionally?

that was my line of thinking. cersei always ends up farging things up worse.

[Eagaholic]

Looks like we could see Brienne and Jamie on opposite ends of a sword - interesting that she will have Oathkeeper, which Jamie gave her and gives a big advantage in that it is Valyrian steel.

And is there any Stark now who hasn't ended up on the wrong end of a blade? Ned, Catlyn, Robb, Sansa, Arya, Jon, Benjen (ice sword), presumably Rickon by now. Bran was just sliced a bit but I guess that doesn't really count. And even Theon, who isn't a Stark, but I think it's a case of geld by association.

[QB Eagles]

I was a little disappointed that no one in House Mormont noticed that Jon had Longclaw.

[QB Eagles]

that was my line of thinking. cersei always ends up farging things up worse.

In the books, we get to hear both Littlefinger and Varys state that Cersei completely destroying the regime with her incompetence and paranoia is a part of both of their plans, and that she's doing it faster and more completely than they had anticipated.

[smeags]

so she should get a bonus for going above and beyond. 

[phattymatty]

wait i thought the books were over this season. no?

i thought this ep was kinda boring honestly because there was no dragons or midgets but scenes from next week look badass.

arya and the hound def meet again right? i kinda liked how he was leaning towards being a good guy but then he's immediately back to being a killer by the end. i feel like they meet up, he has a chance for revenge with the little girl, but then they team up on someone horrible. am i right?

[phattymatty]

I was a little disappointed that no one in House Mormont noticed that Jon had Longclaw.

god a feel so dumb when i see real fans talking about this show. who is long claw? davos?

also that little girl queen mormont was total badass i hope she gets to fight.

[Munson]

I was a little disappointed that no one in House Mormont noticed that Jon had Longclaw.

god a feel so dumb when i see real fans talking about this show. who is long claw? davos?

also that little girl queen mormont was total badass i hope she gets to fight.

Longclaw is Jon's sword with the white wolf's head hilt. In Season 1, Lord Commander Mormont (the guy that was Lord Commander before Jon) gave it to him as a reward for saving his life from the zombie.

The sword's hilt used to be a white bear head hilt, as it was House Mormont's ancestral sword. When he gives it to Jon, he goes on a little exposition about how the sword has been in the family for a thousand years and how he was planning on passing it on to his son (Jorah, aka Lord Friendzone) but then Jorah disgraced the family and left for Essos, but he left the sword behind.

QB's saying it's weird the members of House Mormont (The badass little girl that supplied Jon and Sansa with 62 fighting men this week) didn't recognize the sword.

[phattymatty]

ah i see thanks.

but my other question, this season is still going by the books? i thought books were done.

[QB Eagles]

In this season, some of the plotlines (Jaime in the Riverlands, Euron becoming King of the Iron Islands) are ripped from plotlines in the books. Others (the petitioning of northern houses, Arya's training, the letter Ramsay sent to Jon, that business with the Hound this week, Brienne/Pod in the Riverlands) are highly modified versions of book events. A lot of the stuff is beyond the books (The Wall, Meereen and the Dothraki, King's Landing, the Vale). And some of it is just bullshtein (Dorne).

[Munson]