Chip Kelly - Head Coach, Philadelphia Eagles

Started by Sgt PSN, January 16, 2013, 04:30:19 PM

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Eagaholic

Cooper and Mac are both free agents this year so it will be interesting to see how the FO approaches it. In the Banner years (Joe, not SBs) it would be predictable but now I don't know. My guess is Howie still low balls both and is willing to go up a good bit with Mac (if medical all looks good) but won't go up a whole lot with Cooper.

Munson

I'd love them to bring Maclin back, but not without also signing a legit #2 guy in case he isn't himself after the injury. When the season ends in the next 1-3 weeks, I expect Ed to supply a list of FA WR's
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

BobbyT

Maclin has twice the skill as Coop but  is he willing to be physical....meh
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General_Failure

They can afford to bring both back, #2 receiver money isn't exactly going to break the bank.

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Sgt PSN

Yeah, it's not like Cooper is going to get outrageous offers on the market. Who wants to spend big bucks on a racist with 50ish receptions?  And Mac's injury def hurt his market value, though I could see a few desperate teams offering him big(ger) contracts hoping that he stays healthy. Even a gimpy Mac has more upside than KKKooper.

Eagaholic

Although I don't care about piling on, the racist thing about Cooper really is a good point. How many teams will want to go near him? His outlook would be better if he were a top WR and people would be willing to put up with his rep, but you can get guys at his level without the baggage, so despite a near shocking emergence this season for him, Howie will probably get him on the cheap. My guess with Mac is they offer him a fairly decent contract but with little guaranteed money after the next year or two so they can cut him or renegotiate down if he's not worth it.

shorebird

I don't think Coopers racist attitude will figure into any team signing him at all. Wife beaters, rapist, and all other kinds of degenerates get paid millions if they're good enough.

It's going to be touchy with Maclin's situation. It usually takes a full year to come back from his type of injury. Are the Eagles willing to wait that long is the question. If he comes back strong next year then I'll be pleasantly surprised. The only good thing about it is that he was injured early in training camp and has a whole year to rehab.

ice grillin you

both are incredibly replaceable and im fine with and would probably prefer both of them being gone...if chipper is the genius everyone says he is then the offense needs to go next level....i wanna see some greatest show on turf shtein and you arent going to get there with riley cooper and an off injury mack as two of your top 3 wr

these are two guys who you bring back if you have cap issues or are trying to pinch pennies...not if you are trying to take the next step...one of them back would be fine if you got a legit threat split end opposite pimp
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Eagles_Legendz

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Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
both are incredibly replaceable and im fine with and would probably prefer both of them being gone...if chipper is the genius everyone says he is then the offense needs to go next level....i wanna see some greatest show on turf shtein and you arent going to get there with riley cooper and an off injury mack as two of your top 3 wr

these are two guys who you bring back if you have cap issues or are trying to pinch pennies...not if you are trying to take the next step...one of them back would be fine if you got a legit threat split end opposite pimp

Problem is who are you replacing them with?  I think Chip's offense can elevate marginal #2 receivers, but I look at the FA list and don't see anyone who looks to have the talent to elevate the offense much.  Unless you want to spend a first rd pick on one which I don't see happening this year.

http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php?Position=WR&Year=2014

maybe someone like golden tate would be interesting.  I could see mccluster having a big impact in an offense like this if used interestingly but not as a prototypical wr opposite jackson.

Diomedes

The FO is likely to keep at least one of them, I would think.  I like Maclin, but whatever.  As long as Cooper isn't the #2 next year because someone, whether Maclin or another bona fide NFL WR is, I could care less.   DeSean Jackson elevates whoever plays opposite him.

The Eagles have more urgent needs than WR.  Desperate needs.  There is only one DB worth bringing back as far as I can tell. 
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Eagles_Legendz

I'm expecting Maclin back on a one year deal and cooper back to play the slot if they can bring him back at reasonable $$.  Avant gone and a 3rd round pick or so used on WR to be the 4th and hopefully develop into more.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 27, 2013, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 27, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
both are incredibly replaceable and im fine with and would probably prefer both of them being gone...if chipper is the genius everyone says he is then the offense needs to go next level....i wanna see some greatest show on turf shtein and you arent going to get there with riley cooper and an off injury mack as two of your top 3 wr

these are two guys who you bring back if you have cap issues or are trying to pinch pennies...not if you are trying to take the next step...one of them back would be fine if you got a legit threat split end opposite pimp
http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php?Position=WR&Year=2014

maybe someone like golden tate would be interesting.  I could see mccluster having a big impact in an offense like this if used interestingly but not as a prototypical wr opposite jackson.

doesnt have to be an nfl free agent...id be fine addressing the position in the draft...this is a process as it will only be chippers second year...also its not as tho the position is strong where a rookie couldnt upgrade it even in year one altho wr's generally take longer to adapt than almost any nfl position

they would have to move up and i know most people want defense in the first round but if they like him i wouldnt be against moving up to get marquise lee....i think hed be incredible in this offense

as for free agents i think a great buy low guy would be hakeem nicks...i think he could flourish with a change of scenery (and of course good health)
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Rome

It's funny how some people think Maclin is so easily replaceable.   Need I remind you of the names of the shteinbag losers they brought in before they picked up Maclin & Pimp?


ice grillin you

by that idiotic theory you would agree that shady is unbelievably replaceable since they had westbrook before him?

and on the other hand that all their current linebackers are pretty much irreplaceable?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous