Jake Scott, Philadelphia Eagle

ice grillin you · November 20, 2012, 07:58:22 AM

i dont think people truly realized how bad of a pick it was when they took him.....the guy had only been playing organized football of ANY kind for less than five years when they picked him...and two of those years was at some junior college in idaho or some other god forsaken place

Sgt PSN · November 20, 2012, 01:37:42 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2012, 07:58:22 AM
i dont think people truly realized how bad of a pick it was when they took him

I'm in that group. I knew it wasn't a good pick....at best I was 'meh'....but yeah, I didn't think it was going to be as bad as it's turned out to be.

Quote.....the guy had only been playing organized football of ANY kind for less than five years when they picked him...and two of those years was at some junior college in idaho or some other god forsaken place

I really don't know why this wasn't a bigger deal at the time. It wasn't hidden info or anything. I guess that even though I know that Reid isn't the smartest guy in the room, I keep hoping that one of these days he will be.

ice grillin you · November 20, 2012, 01:51:17 PM

it was a big deal to me....i was beside myself....but as usual i got yelled at for being hysterical

the one thing everyone agreed upon at the time of it happening was howie being hired...i dont think even the biggest homer backed that one

PhillyPhreak54 · November 20, 2012, 02:22:39 PM

Howie being hired and Castillo being promoted were both unanimous in hate I believe.

ice grillin you · November 20, 2012, 02:32:22 PM

oh yeah def...forgot about juanny.....all these hideous moves start to run together after a while

PhillyPhreak54 · November 20, 2012, 02:37:48 PM

I think I viewed Watkins as a solid pick. Not super excited but thought he'd be a guy they plugged in and ya didn't hear his name at all.

Oh how I long for the Tra-Mayberry-Jackson/Fraley-Andrews-Runyan days

General_Failure · November 20, 2012, 04:41:11 PM

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 20, 2012, 02:22:39 PM
Howie being hired and Castillo being promoted were both unanimous in hate I believe.

But they haven't won a game since Castillo got fired.

Sgt PSN · November 20, 2012, 05:01:46 PM

Not defending Castillo as a DC, but he really was a scapegoat. Franchise done him wrong. How do you hire someone unqualified for the job and then fire them for poor performance? Also, at this point I can't even say that the scheme was any more problematic than the players. If nothing else, they both sucked equally.

Eagaholic · November 20, 2012, 05:51:38 PM

I don't really view it as the franchise done him wrong though. At least not if the stories of Juan lobbying hard for the job are true. If that's case it is his own fault. A year ago I wouldn't have thought Andy would just come up with something that hair brained all by himself without Juan pushing for it, but now I could believe anything.

SD · November 20, 2012, 06:06:20 PM

I gave that draft an F and it looks like I was right on the money. As bad as the Watkins pick was the Jarrett one was that much worse. How bad is your draft when the kicker you took in the 4th round is your best pick.

Watkins has no heart for football, he's a goofy Canadian farg who'd rather put out fires and chock it up with the common folk.

ice grillin you · November 20, 2012, 06:08:29 PM

the ultimate compentency test of this franchise as well as the forseeable future of the franchise will all be determined by whether lurie keeps howie as gm or not...nothing else matters if hes kept on

SD · November 20, 2012, 06:13:51 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2012, 06:08:29 PM
the ultimate compentency test of this franchise as well as the forseeable future of the franchise will all be determined by whether lurie keeps howie as gm or not...nothing else matters if hes kept on

Agreed

They need a front office and coaching cleanse. Lurie is still stuck in early/mid 90's mode when he took over the team and had dreams of turning the Eagles into the next 49ers. He hasn't evolved as an owner and deserves as much of the blame as Reid and Roseman do. He gets extra hate points for not switching back to the Kelly Greens.

ice grillin you · November 20, 2012, 06:36:19 PM

what legitimate coach is even going to come and work for that pip squeak

General_Failure · November 20, 2012, 07:59:02 PM

Nofargs Collectaczech.

methdeez · November 20, 2012, 08:04:37 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on November 20, 2012, 06:08:29 PM
the ultimate compentency test of this franchise as well as the forseeable future of the franchise will all be determined by whether lurie keeps howie as gm or not...nothing else matters if hes kept on

Howie as a business-focused GM is not a bad thing I think: contracts, making money, running the franchise, handling logistics, etc, he is probably pretty good at.
He is awful at evaluating football talent.
If they hire a great scouting executive along with a new coach and give him some actual power I could see them being successful with that set-up.