2012 - Philadelphia Phillies, At Least Cole is Staying

[ice grillin you]

8 farging games back now.

does it matter?

you cant possibly think they ever had a chance at winning the division this year.....or did you?

[MDS]

oh he did, he was one of the super homers to pick them to win the world series

[ice grillin you]

oh yeah i forgot about that list....can you post it again for shteins and giggles

[MDS]

find it yourself flag

[ice grillin you]

i just found cliffs lee's win total for the year

zero


but it doesnt matter

[MDS]

nope. its:

the phillies are bad SO cliff lee doesnt have any wins
not
cliff lee doesnt have any wins SO the phillies are bad

but the thing is you dont need cliff lee's arbitrary w/l record to tell you his team stinks.

[ice grillin you]

yeah cliff lee had nothing to do with not getting cliff lee a win today

[MDS]

of course he did

but they could have scored another run. they could have played better defense. cliff lee could have not blown a 4-1 lead.

but those things all happened because this team isnt good. and a win/loss record for 1 of the starters didnt tell me that.

but i guess joe blanton deserved a win on friday. or something.

[Don Ho]

oh he did, he was one of the super homers to pick them to win the world series

That list is never to be mentioned again.

[Rome]

No one could have foreseen how poorly they were going to hit or how badly the bullpen was going to suck.  They won 104 games last year, for God's sake.  Now this?

Stop it.

[ice grillin you]

actually everyone without red sunglasses saw it

youd have to literally be blind to not have

ill fully admit i was probably a year early on calling for the apocolypse but jesus this year was in your face obvious

[Rome]

They're going to lose 25-30 games more than last year.  With the starting pitching they have I'd say the results so far are absolutely astounding.  I detailed it earlier in the thread, dude.  Every player is having a career worst year except Ruiz.  I thought they would tread water at maybe 5-10 games over .500 until Utley & Howard returned then they would turn it on and run away with it.   It's not going to happen now because they've performed far worse than anyone expected. 

But honestly, you know you were trolling at the beginning and are now taking credit for being right.  It's what you do and that's fine.

So again, stop it.

[ice grillin you]

trolling to you is being honest about your teams when its in a negative fashion...thats why you are true blue homer and i respect that....but i have never and will never "troll"

[Rome]

I'm as critical as anyone.  They won 104 games last year. One. Hundred.  Four.  No one legitimately expected this disaster to unfold like this.  You can take credit for being "right" if you like but you know you're full of shtein for doing so, dude.

[ice grillin you]

its a cliche but it also true....every season is a new year....it doesnt mater what you did last year....especially when you have an entire roster gettng really old all at the same time

you are a small picture homer who looks at things like previous year wins and losses....im a big picture hater who looks at things like rosters....player ages...stats....lineups ect...