Around the NFL - 2012

[ice grillin you]

big day for okie state wr's

[ice grillin you]

have to say today was as good an nfl day as it gets

[MDS]

i got up at noon and have left my chair for 3 kitchen trips and 3 trips to the bathroom

this is the life

[ice grillin you]

i think i pissed three times before the end of q1 eagles

[ice grillin you]

dwyer sold out so hard on that play

[ice grillin you]

you had to challenege that because you arent challenging for a first down you are challenging the spot so even if they move the ball forward two inches but not for a first down you still dont lose your time out


bottom line tho is if dwyer runs hard stright forward instead of pulling up they get it

[ice grillin you]

al michaels is an idiot

you can win the challenge and still not get a first down....him and collingsworth are focusing 100% on the "yellow line"

[MDS]

not how they said they werent gonna be charged a TO after they got the first

the challenge was predicated on them getting the first

[ice grillin you]

the challenge was predicated on them getting the first

not sure what you mean by predicated on....but if the ball was moved one centimeter forward from the original spot they win the challenge

the two guys in the booth were fixated on the first down line and the timeout...as if the steelers had to get a first down or they would have lost their last timeout

[MDS]

as if the steelers had to get a first down or they would have lost their last timeout

yes. because they would have.

in order to win the challenge they needed to get a first.

[ice grillin you]

as if the steelers had to get a first down or they would have lost their last timeout

yes. because they would have.

in order to win the challenge they needed to get a first.

thats completely false....they arent challenging a first down call they are challenging the spot of the ball....for example maybe if its fourth and inches they go or it but if its fourth and a yard and a half they punt.....it had nothing to do with a first down...it was the location of the ball in general

[MDS]

then why did the ref wait until it was a first down to say they wouldnt be charged a TO

he started by saying they would move the ball...then they measure...they when its good enough for a first they say its no TO since they won the challenge

the challenge was for a first down, not for an extra quarter yard

[ice grillin you]

you dont challenge for a first down...you challenge where the ball should be placed and if the refs spotted it incorrectly then you win....thats why before they went to the hood they said "pittsbugh is challenging the spot of the ball".....they didnt say pittsburgh is challenging whether it was a first down or not.....you can make a ball spot challenge anytime even if a first down isnt involved...

[MDS]

i understand what youre saying but if it wasnt a first down they would have lost that TO

you got a problem take it up with walt coleman

[ice grillin you]

i understand what youre saying but if it wasnt a first down they would have lost that TO

no they wouldnt have....you dont throw the red flag and say thats a first down....you throw the red flag and say you put the ball in the wrong place....now go and look where it should be....maybe it should be moved ahead of the first down marker or maybe it should be moved one inch short of it but please look and see where the ball should end up...and if it is determined that it is to be placed somewhere forward of where it was orginally spotted then you win the challenge