Jason Babin, Philadelphia Eagle

SD · July 28, 2011, 09:44:32 AM

Washburn can turn water into wine

PhillyGirl · July 28, 2011, 09:45:06 AM

who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.

Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.

PoopyfaceMcGee · July 28, 2011, 09:45:14 AM

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 28, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Cant say i love it or hate it. If he gets double digit sacks for a year or two its worth it.

You're shootin' a bit high there, Tex.

O/U for total sacks over the next two years is probably 13.5.

Zanshin · July 28, 2011, 09:48:20 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.

Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.

I'm not sure if that was directed my way, but that's exactly what I said.

SD · July 28, 2011, 09:49:04 AM

Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
who the hell said it was exciting? It's a solid move to shore up an area that needed it. It's a fit with Washburn.

Bitch that it's not exciting, don't sit here and say it's a terrible signing or that he sucks.

But it IS a terrible signing and he does suck. He was the Eagles 5th DE 2 seasons ago (the D line sucked then too), has only one good season, and is basically a journeyman. Where do you see him as an upgrade? He's on a Juqua Parker level.

PhillyGirl · July 28, 2011, 09:51:04 AM

The dline sucked yes...but McDermott didn't make anyone better.

it's not a terrible signing, its a solid signing.

And I'm NOT a FO schill and don't like pretty much anything they do. So it's not all homertastic Sami or something here.

Zanshin · July 28, 2011, 09:51:20 AM

It's not terrible and he doesn't suck. He's just not great. It's a mediocre signing.

SD · July 28, 2011, 09:54:05 AM

Quote from: Zanshin on July 28, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
It's not terrible and he doesn't suck. He's just not great. It's a mediocre signing.

Exactly. He's Juqua Parker. Why add another Juqua Parker when the team is full of them?

ice grillin you · July 28, 2011, 09:54:37 AM

i wont go as far to say its a terrible signing as long as they use him in a rotation and dont act like hes a starting full time DE...i mean hes gonna get some sacks like juqua would

but if what everyone says about washburn is true then its a worthless and uneccesary signing because they have players and there are players out on the market more talented and better than babin

i would describe it as a completely underwhelming signing

SD · July 28, 2011, 09:57:41 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:54:37 AM
i wont go as far to say its a terrible signing as long as they use him in a rotation and dont act like hes a starting full time DE...i mean hes gonna get some sacks like juqua would

I'd be thrilled if he was only playing in a rotation but we all know the Eagles...this is their guy, he's their answer at DE.

PhillyPhanInDC · July 28, 2011, 10:02:02 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 28, 2011, 09:33:23 AM
I have no problem with the money. It ain't mine. Washburn gets a lot of no-name guys, guys who go to make truck loads of money elsewhere. Doesn't mean he can do with anyone IGs. He's got guys he feels fit better, like any other coach - perhaps Babin is one of them. Look at this list: Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jevon Kearse, John Thornton, Robaire Smith, Antwan Odom, Kevin Carter, Albert Haynesworth and Tony Brown. How many of them did squat since they went elsewhere?

again if thats the case why did they need to sign babin...why not have washburn make all the current ends great players

i mean if babin gets 2 sacks without washburn and 12 with him wouldnt darryl tapp turn his five sacks into 15?

Don't remember ever hearing anyone say he can turn anyone into a pro-bowler, just that he has generally gotten more out of players that were considered pedestrian in the past. Tapp might just suck, and that's all he'll ever do. Washburn knew what he had with Babin, so they went out and got him. I can't hate on that. Look at Vanden-Bosch. The dude was oft-injured and has like 4 or five sacks in a few years with Arizona. Washburn got more out of him. I am sure there are tons of guys Tennesse cut, or only marginally improved, but there is a long, long list of no-names who produced at a much higher level under Washburn then ever before or since in there careers. That counts for something.

PoopyfaceMcGee · July 28, 2011, 10:03:44 AM

The Eagles always rotate their ends, and I'm pretty sure Washburn was planning to do the same thing. So, if you want to piss and moan that they aren't going to add another free agent DE... probably valid. If you want to piss and moan that Babin is going to be a 3-down end and not simply part of the rotation, you don't even make any sense.

Illadelph83 · July 28, 2011, 10:04:04 AM

I don't see the problem, Babin arguably was the 3rd best DE available on the market and even though I like Edwards I wasn't prepared to give that type of money to a guy who played on the best defensive line in the league. Playing along side the best defensive end in the game would make a lot of DE's look good.

PoopyfaceMcGee · July 28, 2011, 10:08:51 AM

Calling Jared Allen the best DE in the game is a good way to be labeled a racist 'round these parts.

SD · July 28, 2011, 10:09:29 AM

Quote from: FastFreddie on July 28, 2011, 10:03:44 AM
The Eagles always rotate their ends, and I'm pretty sure Washburn was planning to do the same thing. So, if you want to piss and moan that they aren't going to add another free agent DE... probably valid. If you want to piss and moan that Babin is going to be a 3-down end and not simply part of the rotation, you don't even make any sense.

ALL teams rotate their ends. The Eagles more so because aside from Cole they don't have a legit starter at DE. Babin is your 'legit' starter.