The Philadelphia Eagles are going to suck in 2011 thread

ice grillin you · January 12, 2011, 01:00:00 PM

Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2011, 12:51:20 PM
He wouldn't be the first football player with similar delusions. Remember when William James (nee Peterson) thought he could be the best cornerback in the NFL?

delusions dont affect your free agent status....the market does

mpmcgraw · January 12, 2011, 01:36:23 PM

For all of you knuckle draggers who think Cole still isn't an elite DE.

Using 50% defensive participation for qualifiers (ie player was in for 50+% of total O or D snaps):

Cole was #1 of 38 qualified 4-3 DEs.
-1st against the run
-2nd in pass rush behind Freeney
-4th in QB hits
-5th in QB pressures
-t-3rd in defensive stops (tackles or sacks which constitute offensive failure)

His worst games came at the end of the year, but that doesn't make what he did any less impressive.

Don Ho · January 12, 2011, 01:43:36 PM

Wow. Obviously he was just beaten down by the end of the year. Constant double teams and no help on the other side took its toll.

ice grillin you · January 12, 2011, 01:56:37 PM

one sack in seven career playoff games

definitely elite

hes a very good player but certainly not elite and he needs help especially when the games matter the most and the competition is at the highest levels

MDS · January 12, 2011, 02:00:15 PM

are you trying to argue actual results vs. fancy numbers with this kid again?

ice grillin you · January 12, 2011, 02:06:40 PM

in baseball they sometimes hold weight...in football they couldnt be more worthless...shtein in football even real stats are always important

Rome · January 12, 2011, 02:11:14 PM

Shocking that an undersized defensive end without any talent around would be less effective as the season progressed.

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 12, 2011, 02:12:29 PM

No talent? What do you call Moise Fokou and Trevor Laws?

Rome · January 12, 2011, 02:15:14 PM

Future car wash attendants?

PoopyfaceMcGee · January 12, 2011, 02:15:55 PM

That's racist.

Rome · January 12, 2011, 02:17:40 PM

By the way. . . Laws would actually be a guy I would keep as a 4th tackle but he should come nowhere near the field as a starter.

mpmcgraw · January 12, 2011, 03:36:02 PM

Quote from: MDS on January 12, 2011, 02:00:15 PM
are you trying to argue actual results vs. fancy numbers with this kid again?

this why guys like Andy Martino and David Murphy are beat writers in real, large cities and you are in mexico. You are awful. Stop trying to be funny on a message board and learn something about sports. You didn't play them so to be taken seriously you are going to have to be a geek. Read a book or something.

mpmcgraw · January 12, 2011, 03:36:47 PM

Quote from: Rome on January 12, 2011, 02:17:40 PM
By the way. . . Laws would actually be a guy I would keep as a 4th tackle but he should come nowhere near the field as a starter.

That's another thing, Dixon was an absolute beast this year and Patterson was well above average as well.

SD · January 12, 2011, 03:49:03 PM

Quote from: mpmcgraw on January 12, 2011, 01:36:23 PM
His worst games came at the end of the year, but that doesn't make what he did any less impressive.

So what you're saying is he racks up stats for the first 3/4 of the season then disappears when needed most? Sounds elite to me.

ice grillin you · January 12, 2011, 03:56:54 PM

please dont respond to him....hes a baseball nerd who doesnt know anything about any other sport....my god he just said antonio dixon is a beast

hes the type of football fan who will watch the game if possible but its about 4th on his list of to dos every sundy...wait?...hes dio?....

i digress

anyway he reads on a message board that this guy dixon unseated bunkley...then he extrapolates that to dixon is a beast...if i felt like looking i bet i could find him big upping bunkley at some point