Go on the record - Who is your starting QB?

ice grillin you · October 25, 2010, 12:21:44 PM

what you say makes sense about the future and is a valid argument...but you dismiss the other side way too emphatically. ..as if there is no other option but to play for the future

raheem morris said yesetrday that the tampa bay buccanneers are the best team in the nfc...the fact that they probably arent is of no meaning but the fact that the word probably is used tells you all you need to know about the nfc...the farging buccanneers are 4-2 for god sakes

if the eagles lose their next four games then fine go with the future...but until that happens you pretty much have to go with the guy who gives you the best chance to win...because as of right now there is nothing that says the eagles dont have as good a chance to make the supeowl as anyone else in the conference...my god the defending superbowl champs just got routed at home by the cleveland browns

how do you just dismiss all that?

shorebird · October 25, 2010, 12:31:53 PM

I don't see this team, with this defense, or this offensive line, winning in the playoffs, if the even make them. I've seen too many years of being good enough to get there and then blowing it when it counts most. I don't want to just make the playoffs. I want to build a team that you know will defiantly make the playoffs and one that we can all see being good enough to win the Superbowl, and I'd like the Eagles to work towards that. Vick, to me, is just a band aid that will put meat in the seats and keep the money train on the track. I might be wrong, but thats the way I see it.

Drunkmasterflex · October 25, 2010, 12:37:47 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 25, 2010, 12:21:44 PM
what you say makes sense about the future and is a valid argument...but you dismiss the other side way too emphatically. ..as if there is no other option but to play for the future

raheem morris said yesetrday that the tampa bay buccanneers are the best team in the nfc...the fact that they probably arent is of no meaning but the fact that the word probably is used tells you all you need to know about the nfc...the farging buccanneers are 4-2 for god sakes

if the eagles lose their next four games then fine go with the future...but until that happens you pretty much have to go with the guy who gives you the best chance to win...because as of right now there is nothing that says the eagles dont have as good a chance to make the supeowl as anyone else in the conference...my god the defending superbowl champs just got routed at home by the cleveland browns

how do you just dismiss all that?

That is the thing the NFL is so jacked up this year you might as well take a shot. I wouldn't mind seeing Kolb be the guy. In reality though there are no dominate teams in the NFL right now. The Steelers are probably the closest thing to it. Give it a shot farg it.

ice grillin you · October 25, 2010, 12:52:02 PM

Quote from: shorebird on October 25, 2010, 12:31:53 PM
I don't see this team, with this defense, or this offensive line, winning in the playoffs, if the even make them.

it doesnt matter what you or i think...all that matters is the current reality...and that reality is that they are one of the better teams in the nfc and they have a legit shot at the playoffs...you cant give up on a season less than half way thru it...that just wouldnt ever happen nor should it...can you imagine what the fanbase and media would do if they quit on this year right now because they want to see what kevin cobb has....its laughable to even think about it

shorebird · October 25, 2010, 01:25:54 PM

It's laughable that as soon as the game was over, people are wanting Vick, Vick, Vick. He's had no more good games than Kolb has. Kolb was great against Atlanta, and not so good against the Titans. Ya' gotta' give the guy a chance. Vick had a couple good games and now it's all about him. What happens when Vick gets trashed playing Indy? You go back to Kolb?

PoopyfaceMcGee · October 25, 2010, 01:36:49 PM

I went on the record after the Atlanta game and said that Vick was my still my starter for 2010. I did qualify that by saying Kolb could change all that by having another ridiculous game against Tennessee, but that didn't happen, so Vick's the guy.

Basically, Kolb seems to be downright special when he can stay in rhythm and when things are going well, and he seems to be middle-of-the-road when he has to improvise. I wouldn't go as far as to say that a healthy Vick beats Tennessee, but I certainly feel the makeup of the team with him at QB would have been better than it was with Kolb. He had a 3-game stretch that went from good to great to under average, and that step backwards makes Vick a no-brainer decision coming off the bye.

shorebird · October 25, 2010, 01:46:50 PM

True, but good to great to average is normal for a guy who hasn't even gotten' a full season under his belt. All this in and out, start Vick stuff can't be doing anything but hurting him after he was more or less told he was the man only to have the rug pulled out from under him.

PoopyfaceMcGee · October 25, 2010, 02:10:34 PM

If nothing else, Kolb has proved that he's not mentally soft. All this shtein about proverbial rugs being pulled out only matters if he's bitchmade. We're so used to that because of McNabb's weak psyche, but that's not going on here. So, Kolb has another 3 1/2 games of experience under his belt and has a lot more to work on behind the scenes before being a truly special QB. In the mean time, Vick can run for his life as needed and unleash some truly sick throws. Will keeping him in there be difficult if he struggles against Indy? Yes, but he will have that chance to either make it difficult or step up and keep the job. Or, he'll get crushed again and we'll see Kolb sooner than expected.

Rome · October 25, 2010, 02:12:10 PM

fire reid.

problem solved.

Magical_Retard · October 25, 2010, 02:15:56 PM

Quote from: Rome on October 25, 2010, 02:12:10 PM
fire reid.

problem solved.

Promote Banner's pet coach in line?

PoopyfaceMcGee · October 25, 2010, 02:45:51 PM

To comply with NFL rules, they would first interview this guy:

Then they would hire someone like this guy:

ice grillin you · October 25, 2010, 03:53:48 PM

Quote from: shorebird on October 25, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
It's laughable that as soon as the game was over, people are wanting Vick, Vick, Vick. He's had no more good games than Kolb has. Kolb was great against Atlanta, and not so good against the Titans. Ya' gotta' give the guy a chance. Vick had a couple good games and now it's all about him. What happens when Vick gets trashed playing Indy? You go back to Kolb?

why is it laughable that people would want a guy who played at a crazy high level before he was hurt to come back and start

seems pretty reasonable to me

reese125 · October 25, 2010, 04:10:54 PM

because we are so concerned about the future of this team! bring on 2014!

SunMo · October 25, 2010, 04:19:04 PM

ok, remember that awesome post when they don't make the playoffs this year and Vick is gone and we're all saying, "why didn't they just let kolb play this year and see what he had?"

Tomahawk · October 25, 2010, 04:29:43 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on October 25, 2010, 03:53:48 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 25, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
It's laughable that as soon as the game was over, people are wanting Vick, Vick, Vick. He's had no more good games than Kolb has. Kolb was great against Atlanta, and not so good against the Titans. Ya' gotta' give the guy a chance. Vick had a couple good games and now it's all about him. What happens when Vick gets trashed playing Indy? You go back to Kolb?

why is it laughable that people would want a guy who played at a crazy high level before he was hurt to come back and start

seems pretty reasonable to me

I laugh at the thought of Vick continuing to consistently play at that crazy high level, or any level other than the one he was on when starting for Atlanta.